The Official DIRECTV HD TiVo Anticipation Thread - Q4 2009 Edition

[Alan Gordon]

Actually I think Tivo Desktop wasn't compatible with Windows 7 early on due to how it handled some processes. I know the latest version released in Oct/Nov fixed the issue.

BTW, thank you, Brennok! I updated, and now it's once again working perfectly!

And now back to topic...

Yup, this is true. It's not clear what will happen in this situation as theoretically, Tivo could use the flash for the OS in the same manner that DIRECTV does. But, that would be a break from normal for TiVo.

How exactly does updating boxes to TiVo for Comcast works? My understanding is that it takes a long time to update, as in hour(s).

While I can see the benefits of downloading the TiVo OS to currently deployed boxes, I'm hoping for seperate boxes.

~Alan

[Jeremy W]

I'm hoping for seperate boxes.
Why?

[Alan Gordon]

Why?

Though it's been said many times, many ways, that the HR2x series and TiVo HD units have (basically) the same organs, which means this isn't like Comcast where the boxes specs are inferior, I still prefer the idea of a DirecTiVo unit being built from the ground up.

~Alan

[Jeremy W]

I still prefer the idea of a DirecTiVo unit being built from the ground up.
All of the facts point to a different shell with an HR2x inside. So that's not happening.

[Alan Gordon]

All of the facts point to a different shell with an HR2x inside. So that's not happening.

I'm not aware of the facts, only the rumors that it will be a different box.

If it doesn't happen, that's fine. People have said that the insides weren't that different. I just said I found it preferable.

I do hope they create an aesthetically pleasing exterior though, as I'm quite fond of the HR21/22/23 exterior (aside from the fact that I wish my HR23 had a glossy finish like my AM21).

~Alan

[Doug Brott]

I'm definitely not on the design team, so I could be wrong, but I'm really on the same page as Jeremy with this one.

[smiddy]

I'm definitely not on the design team, so I could be wrong, but I'm really on the same page as Jeremy with this one.
I just got a shiver when I read this. :grin:

[Sixto]

It will be nice to finally see the result of the development effort since the 9/2/2008 signing ... been much speculation that there will be one new unit and both the DirecTV and TiVo firmware will run on it. One carton with the DirecTV usual accessories, and another with the Peanut remote / TiVo manual and usual accessories. Identical internal components.

Would also speculate that we'll know by 6/30/2010, possibly April/May 2010.

[jacmyoung]

...and even more, they're usually briefed on what lines of questioning to avoid.

I agree, and this is definitely one of those questions, but would any of you ask them anyway?

What did your CEO mean when he recently said, people should consider TiVo as a DVR company to be history?

Seems to me TiVo is moving away from a DVR company to a viewer behavior monitoring company, of course we don't know if the new DirecTiVo viewers will be part of such effort, if it ever becomes available.

[waynenm]

The more I think about it, the more I'm sure I'll ultimately go back to a TIVO interface when it's available. The whole thing reminds me of why I switched to Mac years ago.
It's just plain better. I recognize the few things that the HR series does slightly better,
but the basic TIVO GUI is...just plain better IMHO. If the TIVO software works inside of an HR box with a Flashed upgrade, I would be thrilled. And, I'd pay for it.

[smiddy]

It will be nice to finally see the result of the development effort since the 9/2/2008 signing ... been much speculation that there will be one new unit and both the DirecTV and TiVo firmware will run on it. One carton with the DirecTV usual accessories, and another with the Peanut remote / TiVo manual and usual accessories. Identical internal components.

Would also speculate that we'll know by 6/30/2010, possibly April/May 2010.
Since the signing they should have the hardware completed and the software should be well on its way towards RC. I wouldn't be surprised to see something at CES in two weeks. :D

[Doug Brott]

Since the signing they should have the hardware completed and the software should be well on its way towards RC. I wouldn't be surprised to see something at CES in two weeks. :D

I used to think this .. I'm not sure now. I hope there is something to see otherwise it will be a long road left for the TiVo.

[celticpride]

I thought i read somewhere that directv would not be at ces this year! or was that tivo? or both?:confused:

[litzdog911]

I thought i read somewhere that directv would not be at ces this year! or was that tivo? or both?:confused:

Tivo should be there, but not DirecTV.

[hdtvfan0001]

Tivo should be there, but not DirecTV.
We'll let you know what we find there in less than 2 weeks now...;):D

Yes, Tivo is scheduled to be there.

[Sixto]

We'll let you know what we find there in less than 2 weeks now...;):D

Yes, Tivo is scheduled to be there.Not been a peep or leak in almost 16 months. Be interesting if you hear/see anything.

They sure are good at keeping a secret. :) (or it's a long way off)

[Richierich]

We'll let you know what we find there in less than 2 weeks now...;):D

Yes, Tivo is scheduled to be there.

TIVO will probably have a small booth there somewhere and I hope that it doesn't take me too long to find it. Directv will not be there for the second year in a row and I was hoping that they would be there to show the HR24-750.

We'll take lots of pictures!!!

[Derwood]

At www.cesweb.org they are showing Tivo with 3 small rooms and DirecTV absent.

[hdtvfan0001]

TIVO will probably have a small booth there somewhere and I hope that it doesn't take me too long to find it. Directv will not be there for the second year in a row and I was hoping that they would be there to show the HR24-750.

We'll take lots of pictures!!!
I already have it on my personal visit location map sir. ;):D:D:D

As for seeing the device you reference...good luck with that.

[Stuart Sweet]

If it's the same little suite they had in '09, it'll take some walking to get there. Very far off the beaten track.

[Richierich]

I already have it on my personal visit location map sir. ;):D:D:D

As for seeing the device you reference...good luck with that.

Hey, can't I have my hopes and dreams!!!

Also, a Beautiful Brand New MPEG-4 DIRECTIVO unit that will be in my Den by the Fourth of July!!!

Fanboy, want to take any bets on that! :D

[Richierich]

If it's the same little suite they had in '09, it'll take some walking to get there. Very far off the beaten track.

Will I need a GPS?

[hdtvfan0001]

Will I need a GPS?
Nope - its on my layout map.

[Richierich]

Nope - its on my layout map.

EXCELLENT!!!

[Stuart Sweet]

You won't need a GPS but some sturdy shoes and a willingness to climb steps wouldn't be a bad idea. Also a long playlist for your personal music player while you're getting there...

[hdtvfan0001]

You won't need a GPS but some sturdy shoes and a willingness to climb steps wouldn't be a bad idea. Also a long playlist for your personal music player while you're getting there...
I'm already doing my workouts for that Tivo location safari at the CES. :D

[Richierich]

You won't need a GPS but some sturdy shoes and a willingness to climb steps wouldn't be a bad idea. Also a long playlist for your personal music player while you're getting there...

Well, I am bringing my GPS for getting around Vegas even though I will have a well informed Tour Guide (he's good but not cheap) and I will bring my new IPOD with 4,200 songs on it so that should keep me entertained while I search for the elusive TIVO Booth!

[hdtvfan0001]

Well, I am bringing my GPS for getting around Vegas even though I will have a well informed Tour Guide (he's good but not cheap) and I will bring my new IPOD with 4,200 songs on it so that should keep me entertained while I search for the elusive TIVO Booth!
You don't need a GPS in Vegas...just plenty of cabfare in your pockets. :D

[Richierich]

I'm bringing Plenty Of Cash for Cabfare this time because you walked me to death last time so cabfares are on me and dinner is on you. :lol:

[hdtvfan0001]

I'm bringing Plenty Of Cash for Cabfare this time because you walked me to death last time so cabfares are on me and dinner is on you. :lol:
Time to send out those customer service billing invoices I see. :D:lol:

In any case...definitely the Tivo room will be a must-see at the CES in about 1 1/2 weeks from now..

[JoeTheDragon]

You don't need a GPS in Vegas...just plenty of cabfare in your pockets. :D

They have a monorail there as well.

[dennisj00]

Hey, can't I have my hopes and dreams!!!

Also, a Beautiful Brand New MPEG-4 DIRECTIVO unit that will be in my Den by the Fourth of July!!!

Fanboy, want to take any bets on that! :D

Rich,

I'd probably take that bet, except you didn't say what year!!

7/4/2010 - nope.

[Richierich]

I am putting all of my money in for July 4th, 2010!!! :lol:

I have a little Birdie that told me so!!!

As I have told you recently Rich, sometimes you just have to Trust the Little Birdie!!! :lol:

[hdtvfan0001]

They have a monorail there as well.
Too far to walk to the monorail....:D:lol:

[Richierich]

We are going to be in "TAXILAND" as I don't do the Walking Thing Very Well.

I actually pay someone to Jog for me as I don't like to do it and don't have the time for it.

[mitchelljd]

Though it's been said many times, many ways, that the HR2x series and TiVo HD units have (basically) the same organs, which means this isn't like Comcast where the boxes specs are inferior, I still prefer the idea of a DirecTiVo unit being built from the ground up.

~Alan

I agree with you.

with extra features not just software enabled. i don't trust the HR2x series hardware to be the most advanced.

[Jeremy W]

with extra features not just software enabled. i don't trust the HR2x series hardware to be the most advanced.
The HR2x hardware is the same as the Tivo hardware. Anything Tivo has done on their hardware can be done on the HR2x hardware, because it is the same.

[hdtvfan0001]

i don't trust the HR2x series hardware to be the most advanced.
Guess we won't really know that until we see what is in store for the new Tivobox and its cousin, the DirecTV DVR version.

[bondheli]

Tivo PR:

ALVISO, Calif., Dec 30, 2009 PRNewswire-FirstCall via COMTEX -- TiVo Inc. (Nasdaq: TIVO), the creator of and a leader in television services for digital video recorders (DVRs), today announced that President and CEO Tom Rogers will present at the Citi Global Entertainment Media & Telecommunications Conference on January 5th. The webcast of the presentation will be available on the Investor Relations section of the TiVo website under the events calendar tab.

Directv PR:

EL SEGUNDO, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--DIRECTV will present at Citi’s 20th Annual Global Entertainment, Media & Telecommunications Conference on Tuesday Jan. 5, 2010 at 12:45 p.m. (PT)/3:45 p.m. (ET). The presentation will include an update and outlook on the DIRECTV businesses. A live webcast of the presentation will be available on the directv website and an archive of the webcast will also be available on this website.



Directv speculation from fudzilla:


It seems after the successful launch of the latest DirecTV satellite, some shadow dwellers are telling of a big showing by DirecTV at CES. Those claiming to be in the know say that the company will be pulling out all of the stops in an effort to attract some attention at CES this year, including whispers that more details of the availability of new gear will be among the news to arrive.

According to the whispers we hear, the company will take the wraps off the much talked about new HD TiVo-powered DVR box, and are talking about an actual release date for it. If this isn’t enough, talk also seems to be centering around the likely showing of a new DirecTV powered DVR model, as well, which has also been rumored for some time.

While the focus will clearly continue to be on the additional 200 HD channels that the DirecTV 12 satellite will be able to deliver, including the 3D HD channel that we told you about yesterday (the additional bandwidth provided by the new Ka-band satellite) the company is looking to focus on the end user choices and experience; and that is where the new DVR receivers come into play.

While no one is talking yet as to what kind of release date we can expect DirecTV to announce, we predict that it is likely a safe bet that it will be in the late first quarter or early second quarter when DirecTV 12 comes online.

[smiddy]

Tivo PR:

ALVISO, Calif., Dec 30, 2009 PRNewswire-FirstCall via COMTEX -- TiVo Inc. (Nasdaq: TIVO), the creator of and a leader in television services for digital video recorders (DVRs), today announced that President and CEO Tom Rogers will present at the Citi Global Entertainment Media & Telecommunications Conference on January 5th. The webcast of the presentation will be available on the Investor Relations section of the TiVo website under the events calendar tab.

Directv PR:

EL SEGUNDO, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--DIRECTV will present at Citi’s 20th Annual Global Entertainment, Media & Telecommunications Conference on Tuesday Jan. 5, 2010 at 12:45 p.m. (PT)/3:45 p.m. (ET). The presentation will include an update and outlook on the DIRECTV businesses. A live webcast of the presentation will be available on the directv website and an archive of the webcast will also be available on this website.



Directv speculation from fudzilla:


It seems after the successful launch of the latest DirecTV satellite, some shadow dwellers are telling of a big showing by DirecTV at CES. Those claiming to be in the know say that the company will be pulling out all of the stops in an effort to attract some attention at CES this year, including whispers that more details of the availability of new gear will be among the news to arrive.

According to the whispers we hear, the company will take the wraps off the much talked about new HD TiVo-powered DVR box, and are talking about an actual release date for it. If this isn’t enough, talk also seems to be centering around the likely showing of a new DirecTV powered DVR model, as well, which has also been rumored for some time.

While the focus will clearly continue to be on the additional 200 HD channels that the DirecTV 12 satellite will be able to deliver, including the 3D HD channel that we told you about yesterday (the additional bandwidth provided by the new Ka-band satellite) the company is looking to focus on the end user choices and experience; and that is where the new DVR receivers come into play.

While no one is talking yet as to what kind of release date we can expect DirecTV to announce, we predict that it is likely a safe bet that it will be in the late first quarter or early second quarter when DirecTV 12 comes online.
:welcome_s

Excellent first post! Since I am going to CES this year, I will be on the lookout for all of the above! :D

[I WANT MORE]

Tivo PR:

ALVISO, Calif., Dec 30, 2009 PRNewswire-FirstCall via COMTEX -- TiVo Inc. (Nasdaq: TIVO), the creator of and a leader in television services for digital video recorders (DVRs), today announced that President and CEO Tom Rogers will present at the Citi Global Entertainment Media & Telecommunications Conference on January 5th. The webcast of the presentation will be available on the Investor Relations section of the TiVo website under the events calendar tab.

Directv PR:

EL SEGUNDO, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--DIRECTV will present at Citi’s 20th Annual Global Entertainment, Media & Telecommunications Conference on Tuesday Jan. 5, 2010 at 12:45 p.m. (PT)/3:45 p.m. (ET). The presentation will include an update and outlook on the DIRECTV businesses. A live webcast of the presentation will be available on the directv website and an archive of the webcast will also be available on this website.



Directv speculation from fudzilla:


It seems after the successful launch of the latest DirecTV satellite, some shadow dwellers are telling of a big showing by DirecTV at CES. Those claiming to be in the know say that the company will be pulling out all of the stops in an effort to attract some attention at CES this year, including whispers that more details of the availability of new gear will be among the news to arrive.

According to the whispers we hear, the company will take the wraps off the much talked about new HD TiVo-powered DVR box, and are talking about an actual release date for it. If this isn’t enough, talk also seems to be centering around the likely showing of a new DirecTV powered DVR model, as well, which has also been rumored for some time.

While the focus will clearly continue to be on the additional 200 HD channels that the DirecTV 12 satellite will be able to deliver, including the 3D HD channel that we told you about yesterday (the additional bandwidth provided by the new Ka-band satellite) the company is looking to focus on the end user choices and experience; and that is where the new DVR receivers come into play.

While no one is talking yet as to what kind of release date we can expect DirecTV to announce, we predict that it is likely a safe bet that it will be in the late first quarter or early second quarter when DirecTV 12 comes online.

This should generate some interesting conversation. :hurah:

[Richierich]

:welcome_s

Excellent first post! Since I am going to CES this year, I will be on the lookout for all of the above! :D

+1. I just emailed hdtvfan0001 a copy of this Post as I know he will be very interested in this latest development.

Look forward to seeing you in Vegas Smiddy. :)

[Stuart Sweet]

Well, since DIRECTV has no booth at CES that I'm aware of, I think their presence there will be somewhat less than what fudzilla forecasts. I'd also like to point out that the Citi conference is more business-to-business and while there may be something in there for us geeks, that most likely won't be the focus.

[joed32]

D12 will increase Directv's capacity to 200 total HD channels. Where are they getting 200 additional channels from in the article. Sounds like they're making stuff up.

[Stuart Sweet]

Well, that's off topic for this thread but: DIRECTV12 has the capacity for 80 HD channels. If you accept that DIRECTV now has over 120 HD channels (which it does or doesn't, depending on how you count them) 120+80=200.

Let's get back to TiVo, please.

[hdtvfan0001]

Well, since DIRECTV has no booth at CES that I'm aware of, I think their presence there will be somewhat less than what fudzilla forecasts. I'd also like to point out that the Citi conference is more business-to-business and while there may be something in there for us geeks, that most likely won't be the focus.
Right - DirecTV will have no booth at the CES this year (nor did they last year) - making it tough to announce, demo, or present much of anything there.

[pfp]

I anticipate this thread being closed in a few hours

[Stuart Sweet]

Good anticipation. I'll probably close it when I get home, so get in your TiVo love for the day sometime before 6pm Eastern.

[smiddy]

+1. I just emailed hdtvfan0001 a copy of this Post as I know he will be very interested in this latest development.

Look forward to seeing you in Vegas Smiddy. :)
Yes, I look forward to seeing you too. I know hdtvfan0001 is a little psyched about it too. :D

If DirecTV and TiVo are there (but according to Mr. Shadow DirecTV won't be) then I will likelu camp out at their exhibit trying to get tidbits of information on anything and everything I can. 2010 is going to be a great year, Happy New Year man! ;)

[hdtvfan0001]

Release Notes are now posted...so the mystery is now gone. :D:lol:

[Richierich]

If it was True then Directv would have made some last minute plans to acquire a booth to exhibit whatever it is they want to display and showcase.

Maybe just Snake Oil.

Happy New Year to you and all of the DBSTALKers.

2010 looks like it will be very exciting and promising and I for one am definitely looking forward to it.

[Sixto]

2010 looks like it will be very exciting and promising and I for one am definitely looking forward to it.Me too. A little piece of sunshine for all.

TiVo for those that have a preference, a new satellite that's safely in space with just some distance and testing to complete, lots of new HD channels that have been hinted at satisfying 99% of us, a new Movie service that might be cool, and hopefully some nice horsepower under the hood for both TiVo and non-TiVo. Along with MRV.

2010 is bright. And good riddance to this old previous decade thread. :)

[Richierich]

2010 is bright. And good riddance to this old previous decade thread. :)

+1. Good Riddance to this thread and Hopefully to those Posters who keep ranting over "The Travel Channel in HD"!!!

Haven't we heard enough of that nonsense. It will be here as soon as D12 is ready to receive transmissions. :)

[loudo]

+1. Good Riddance to this thread and Hopefully to those Posters who keep ranting over "The Travel Channel in HD"!!!

Haven't we heard enough of that nonsense. It will be here as soon as D12 is ready to receive transmissions. :)
Hope your right, it will make my wife happy!!!!

[ATARI]

Happy New Years to you all. With or without the new TiVo, we'll still have more HD to look forward to, and that's what I'm focusing on.

[smiddy]

Happy New Years to you all. With or without the new TiVo, we'll still have more HD to look forward to, and that's what I'm focusing on.
Oh yes we will, won't we?! :lol: Come on 2010, make it hap'n Cap'n! :D

[Richierich]

Happy New Years to you all. With or without the new TiVo, we'll still have more HD to look forward to, and that's what I'm focusing on.

We will have the New MPEG-4 DIRECTIVO and I'll have one sitting in my Den before my next birthday. :D

[chefwong]

OT or on topic....I'd be interested if they make a UI that is HD...Moxi qualirty

[smiddy]

I bet this thread closes within 6 hours. :D

[Stuart Sweet]

Or 6 minutes :)