will SAM-6802, or WB68 connect 3 dishes

[jertigger]

I have 2 30" dishes each with dual LNBs and 1 18" dish dual LNB, Will either the SAM-6802 or WB 68 connect the 3 together,

Get a lot of rain fade and the 30" dishes would be for 101 and 119 each and the small for 110.

Instructions for wb68 show connections using Phase lll tripple lnb connection aqdding bothh the 95 and 72.5 satallites not using 3 seperate lnbs

I found instructions for the SAM-6802 and look like it may work.

Inst also show connecting the 95 or 72.5, do the need to be connected to make it work for me

[boba]

What are you trying to get for programming? For 101/110/119 either switch will work but you need to understand how D* uses the satellites. 110 uses a special LNB a "SAT C" LNB this is used with a Sat C kit to insert the 3 transponders on 110 as if they were actually on the 119 satellite so the receiver is really seeing 2 satellites. 101 Shows up as 12 and 18 volts no tone and 110/119 shows up as 12 and 18 volts with tone.

[HoTat2]

I have 2 30" dishes each with dual LNBs and 1 18" dish dual LNB, Will either the SAM-6802 or WB 68 connect the 3 together,

Get a lot of rain fade and the 30" dishes would be for 101 and 119 each and the small for 110.

Instructions for wb68 show connections using Phase lll tripple lnb connection aqdding bothh the 95 and 72.5 satallites not using 3 seperate lnbs

I found instructions for the SAM-6802 and look like it may work.

Inst also show connecting the 95 or 72.5, do the need to be connected to make it work for me

No, you cannot have a separate dish for 110, as it's LNB output needs to be integrated into the 119's LNB's down frequency spectrum by placing it's three left circular transponder outputs into unused slots in the 119's left circular output channels through a special frequency conversion process.

EDIT: Wrong, what the OP wants can be accomplished. See below

[ndole]

You won't miss the 110. I promise.

**Be sure to post photos!

[litzdog911]

See the "Multiple Dish" link in my signature below to see what's required to combine multiple dishes together.

Let us know what you're trying to accomplish.

[HoTat2]

See the "Multiple Dish" link in my signature below to see what's required to combine multiple dishes together.

Let us know what you're trying to accomplish.

Well...

Someone can please cut me a large piece of humble pie.:sure:

I had forgotten all about those diagrams since I haven't looked at them for quite while. Oh well, my apologies to the OP, as you certainly can indeed have a separate 110 dish. And it will actually be easier in your case since you don't need the Ka band and may eliminate the two power-pass splitters shared with the AT-9.

See illustration #2 in litzdog's signature link as the basis.

Point the small Phase I dish at the 110 position with a special Sat. C LNB installed. Then connect the two 101 outputs from either a Sonora polarity locker as pictured or a powered mutiswitch (does not have to be Ka band compatible) to the 30 in dish pointed toward 101.

Now connect the 110/119 output of the polarity locker or powered MS to the Sat. C combiner and then on to both the 110 and the 30 in 119 dish as illustrated. Lastly connect the remaining 119 output to the other input on the 119 dish, and you should be good to go.

Now someone please pass the salt for the crow I'm having to eat for speaking much too quickly on this earlier. :D

[jertigger]

What I am after


is to be able to get 101 channels and 119 local by combining larger dishes, I was under the impression since the receivers no longer havea 2 LNB selection I had to have all 3 to make it work 101,110,119

I tried to use a Zinwell 6X8 multi switch connecting 101 to 99-101 ports and 119 to 103-110-119 ports MS6X8WB-Z.

Didnt work-- 101 channels came in fine but 119 channels would not pass thru.

Thanks:)

[boba]

What I am after


is to be able to get 101 channels and 119 local by combining larger dishes, I was under the impression since the receivers no longer havea 2 LNB selection I had to have all 3 to make it work 101,110,119

I tried to use a Zinwell 6X8 multi switch connecting 101 to 99-101 ports and 119 to 103-110-119 ports MS6X8WB-Z.

Didnt work-- 101 channels came in fine but 119 channels would not pass thru.

Thanks:)Was your 119 dish aimed correctly? What receiver were you using? It takes a 22 Khz tone to switch to the 119 satellites but no tone to go to 101.

[HoTat2]

What I am after


is to be able to get 101 channels and 119 local by combining larger dishes, I was under the impression since the receivers no longer havea 2 LNB selection I had to have all 3 to make it work 101,110,119

I tried to use a Zinwell 6X8 multi switch connecting 101 to 99-101 ports and 119 to 103-110-119 ports MS6X8WB-Z.

Didnt work-- 101 channels came in fine but 119 channels would not pass thru.

Thanks:)

That should have worked fine as well. :confused:

As boba asked are you sure the 119 dish was properly aimed? (Use dishpointer.com for help) What are the 119 signal strength readings on the receiver like? In the receiver setup make sure to select the two LNB (or Phase II) dish option. Though the three LNB (or Phase III) option should work also.

[jertigger]

Verfied sat locations and strengths, a friend of a friend came over with a fanct meter and verfied I was tuned.

Now that I think of it he had a 6X8 tried it too, no go It might have been an WB68

[jertigger]

I found instruction sheet for the sam-6802

It shows exactly what I am looking for, also plan to drop plan of adding 110

Are both of the LNBS for 101 and 119 the same standard ordinary directv lnbs or is the 119 LNB a different frequency or different type

Thanks for your help

[bobnielsen]

This diagram (http://www.sadoun.com/Sat/Products/DirecTV/InstallGuide-6x8MS.pdf)?

It should work with either a SAM-6802 or a WB68. You don't need the 110 dish, but in order to use one you would need to use the special 110 LNB and combine the output with that from the 119 dish. You wouldn't be able to receive any programming from 110 in any case.

Which dish type did you choose in the receiver setup?

[litzdog911]

Verfied sat locations and strengths, a friend of a friend came over with a fanct meter and verfied I was tuned.

Now that I think of it he had a 6X8 tried it too, no go It might have been an WB68

How do you know that your "fancy meter" properly aimed the 119º dish? It's easy to be fooled and get great readings even when aimed at the wrong satellite. If you were properly aimed, you should only see signals on Transponders 22-32 from that satellite.

[jertigger]

Reply to bobnielsen
Thats the one, it is for the SAM 6802

I am looking at the Phase 1 dish setup with 2 lnbs (3a)


Reply to litzdog911

I also took a small tv and a receiver out to dish to verify the aiming. I could only get signal from every other transponder thru the multi switch, even tried 2 other lnbs same thing.
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If I connect the lnb directly to receiver get in high 90s regardless of which side of lnb connected to.

Are LNBS for 119 and 101 the same class and frequency range?

[HoTat2]

Yes the 101 and the 119 are both the same type of LNB. The way you are describing it sounds like one of the cables to the 119 LNB is bad. Try reversing the 119 cables to the multiswitch and if the channels that go to 0 flip-flop to the other set from even to odd or vice-versa then one of the cables to the 119 are definitely bad.

[jertigger]

Reply to HoTat2

Oh yes did all that, different cables different lnbs, switched lnbs from dish to dish same results.

Receiver directly to each lnb get high signal, install switch no go

I wasnt using either an SAM6802 or wb 68 What I had was a different Zinwell 6X8 multi switch MS6X8WB-Z

it must be a different animal.

I have access to a Sam-6802 but didnt want to buy until I knew it was supposed to work.

Thanks to all for your help and suggestions. I may be back hera again with this problen (hope not) when I get the Sam-6208

[bobnielsen]

I wasnt using either an SAM6802 or wb 68 What I had was a different Zinwell 6X8 multi switch MS6X8WB-Z

it must be a different animal.


That model replaced the WB68. It should function the same.

[HoTat2]

Yea, that's simply the newer weather booted version of the WB68 (with terminating caps). It's larger brother, the powered WB616 underwent the same revision in the MS6X16WB, though it is no longer to be used for official DirecTV installations.

Anyhow, the problem has to be the multiswitch I guess, since when you bypass it you get strong signals on both channel sets. For some reason that MS6X8WB-Z MS is not passing the 13V + 22 KHz switched odd channel set which is mostly used for the spotbeam transponders from DIRECTV-7S which includes your locals

[RobertE]

I have 2 30" dishes each with dual LNBs and 1 18" dish dual LNB, Will either the SAM-6802 or WB 68 connect the 3 together,

Get a lot of rain fade and the 30" dishes would be for 101 and 119 each and the small for 110.

Instructions for wb68 show connections using Phase lll tripple lnb connection aqdding bothh the 95 and 72.5 satallites not using 3 seperate lnbs

I found instructions for the SAM-6802 and look like it may work.

Inst also show connecting the 95 or 72.5, do the need to be connected to make it work for me

Where in Flordia are you adn what programming are you trying to get?

[jertigger]

Back outside to the dishes again

Re-tuned both dishes using a small tv and receiver outside

Signals between 98-100 on both ports of both lnbs

Hooked up with new coax --connected the switch

Got same high signals for 101-110-119 thur multi switch

Core channels come in ok

tuned to local channels all I got on 4 channels was core channel programing
Channel 20 told me programing not purchased.

Completely reset receiver same thing again.

[boba]

Back outside to the dishes again

Re-tuned both dishes using a small tv and receiver outside

Signals between 98-100 on both ports of both lnbs

Hooked up with new coax --connected the switch

Got same high signals for 101-110-119 thur multi switch

Core channels come in ok

tuned to local channels all I got on 4 channels was core channel programing
Channel 20 told me programing not purchased.

Completely reset receiver same thing again.What model receiver are you using?

[jertigger]

The receiver is a directv D11, it is authorized for local programing.

I brought the receiver in house and reconnected to the little 3 lnb dish, locals are all there.

Wierd part is I only get "programing not purchased is" only on 1 of the local channel numbers.

The remaining local channel numbers have random core channels, such as Reelz, disney cartoons, etc.

[HoTat2]

The receiver is a directv D11, it is authorized for local programing.

I brought the receiver in house and reconnected to the little 3 lnb dish, locals are all there.

Wierd part is I only get "programing not purchased is" only on 1 of the local channel numbers.

The remaining local channel numbers have random core channels, such as Reelz, disney cartoons, etc.

For some weird reason the receiver is just not communicating properly through that multiswitch. Therefore unless the switch is defective if you are going to keep that particular switch and receiver I would recommend essentially taking the D11 out of the loop by feeding that WB68 type multiswitch you have with either a Sonora polarity locker as litzdog shows in his illustrations or else use a powered multiswitch.

And believe me I do not say this lightly when it comes to recommending someone else to go out and spend hard earned money (especially in this economy). But frankly I'm stumped as this is all very puzzling and what you attempting to do shouldn't be this complicated. :confused:

[RobertE]

I'm still curious as to where the OP really is and what programming is trying to be pulled in.

All the vagueness isn't helping to provide good info.

[texasbrit]

I'm still curious as to where the OP really is and what programming is trying to be pulled in.

All the vagueness isn't helping to provide good info.

Yes, how far south west of Florida is he?

[boba]

The receiver is a directv D11, it is authorized for local programing.

I brought the receiver in house and reconnected to the little 3 lnb dish, locals are all there.

Wierd part is I only get "programing not purchased is" only on 1 of the local channel numbers.

The remaining local channel numbers have random core channels, such as Reelz, disney cartoons, etc.What do you have for a working system dish and receivers? How many receivers? How old is the system besides the D11?There is something simple we are missing. Where are you located?

[jertigger]

Live in Naples FL Local programing is my goal

Have Directv D11 and R15 DVR

Shouldnt both of these send multi switch signal,

Iam replacing a 18" triple lnb dish that has a built in multi switch

I have available another multiswitch to try but wont get to that until Tuesday.

From everything i have read, this should be a fairly quick and easy task to tie 2 seperate LNbs to a common receiver.

[HoTat2]

Live in Naples FL Local programing is my goal

Have Directv D11 and R15 DVR

Shouldnt both of these send multi switch signal,...

Yes absolutely, as both of those are "DirecTV Plus" receivers which is what the "Plus" actually refers to. The ability to receive from the 101 (or "Sat A"), 119 (or "Sat B"), and 110 (or "Sat C") positions.

...I am replacing a 18" triple lnb dish that has a built in multi switch

I have available another multiswitch to try but wont get to that until Tuesday.

OK, please keep us posted on the results....

...From everything i have read, this should be a fairly quick and easy task to tie 2 seperate LNbs to a common receiver.

It is, which is what is making your case so puzzling.

Interesting I was perusing a site for a professional satellite installation company based in Atlanta called "SATPRO ATLANTA" and happened to see a shot of your desired setup of two 30" dishes for 101 and 119 to combat rain fade in one of their job promotional photos installed on the side of a building for a 85 room motel south outside of Atlanta.

http://www.satproatlanta.com/mediac/400_0/media/DCP_0001.jpg

Perhaps we should call them for some suggestions. :D

[RobertE]

If rainfade is that big of a concern, you are truely in the US and may be considering getting HD in the near future, I'd take a hard look at the Alaska/Hawaii 1.2m dish setups. It won't be a cheap option, but at least you won't have to try and MacGyver things together to get a working setup.

[kevinturcotte]

This is what you want: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000OLP28K/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_1?pf_rd_p=486539851&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B0007WWI2E&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=003CHDR3TBWKZ642EGX3, though I'm sure you can probably find it cheaper. When Directv first added our locals (Before HD), I threw up a 36" pointed at 101, and re-aimed my 30" dish on 119. Ran them both into this switch, and everything worked fine. You may have to tell the receivers you have a triple sat dish, and it'll freak because it can't find a signal from 110, but there really isn't anything on it.
May also want to look into the GainMaster dish: http://www.solidsignal.com/pview.asp?p=SACGAINCOMBO. I'm sure it can be found online, probably through Ebay or the like.

[jertigger]

I experimented some more. I think what is happening is my receiver is freaking to quote kturcotte Make sense?

I took one of my receivers and connected back up to the org triple lnb dish
everything works good.

Then I tried several different dish selections, was able to duplicate the no local channel problem. In fact some selections didnt recognize the local channel numbers.

Looks like I am trying to connect a dual lnb set up to a receiver that only goes down to a triple lnb selection.

Found this instruction sheet, shows connecting 110 and 119 lnbs thru a combiner to the #2 sat ports and 101 directly to #1 sat ports.

http://manuals.solidsignal.com/6X8UserManual.pdf

If I have to i can use the old 18" oval dish for a 110 lnb

[kevinturcotte]

I experimented some more. I think what is happening is my receiver is freaking to quote kturcotte Make sense?

I took one of my receivers and connected back up to the org triple lnb dish
everything works good.

Then I tried several different dish selections, was able to duplicate the no local channel problem. In fact some selections didnt recognize the local channel numbers.

Looks like I am trying to connect a dual lnb set up to a receiver that only goes down to a triple lnb selection.

Found this instruction sheet, shows connecting 110 and 119 lnbs thru a combiner to the #2 sat ports and 101 directly to #1 sat ports.

http://manuals.solidsignal.com/6X8UserManual.pdf

If I have to i can use the old 18" oval dish for a 110 lnb

As long as 101 and 119 are coming in (Even and odd), don't worry about it. As long as you don't select a channel off the 110 satellte (Which you PROBABLY won't), you'll be fine.

[HoTat2]

I experimented some more. I think what is happening is my receiver is freaking to quote kturcotte Make sense?

I took one of my receivers and connected back up to the org triple lnb dish
everything works good.

Then I tried several different dish selections, was able to duplicate the no local channel problem. In fact some selections didnt recognize the local channel numbers.

Looks like I am trying to connect a dual lnb set up to a receiver that only goes down to a triple lnb selection.

Found this instruction sheet, shows connecting 110 and 119 lnbs thru a combiner to the #2 sat ports and 101 directly to #1 sat ports.

http://manuals.solidsignal.com/6X8UserManual.pdf

If I have to i can use the old 18" oval dish for a 110 lnb

Yes you can hook up the 110 option using a standard 18 round dish for that slot as I posted earlier using diagram #2 in litzdog's signature link as a basis. As long as you equip the 110 dish with the special Sat. C LNB of course.

But neither the R15 or the D11 has a two LNB option (or Phase II dish) to select from during the receiver set-up?

[kevinturcotte]

Yes you can hook up the 110 option using a standard 18 round dish for that slot as I posted earlier using diagram #2 in litzdog's signature link as a basis. As long as you equip the 110 dish with the special Sat. C LNB of course.

But neither the R15 or the D11 has a two LNB option (or Phase II dish) to select from during the receiver set-up?

What IS available on 110 now? Mostly foreign programming isn't it (That could be what he wants though)?

[RobertE]

With you only wanting 101 & 119, try setting it up for a phase II dish. Should be listed as Round - 2lnb or something close.

[HoTat2]

What IS available on 110 now? Mostly foreign programming isn't it (That could be what he wants though)?

Actually from gct's transponder map the only programming listed on 110 for DIRECTV-5 at the moment are the old MPEG-2 HD legacy channels. Specifically channels 70, 72, 73, 75, 76, 79, and a Sat C test channel at 494.

However I just suggested it's inclusion if the OP was convinced it was necessary for his set-up to function correctly.

I don't know all the licensing rules, but I sometimes wonder if the only reason DirecTV is keeping these now obsolete HD channels active at 110 because they cannot simply hold onto a prime satellite slot this way and do nothing with it. The FCC would certainly frown upon that.

[kevinturcotte]

Actually from gct's transponder map the only programming listed on 110 for DIRECTV-5 at the moment are the old MPEG-2 HD legacy channels. Specifically channels 70, 72, 73, 75, 76, 79, and a Sat C test channel at 494.

However I just suggested it's inclusion if the OP was convinced it was necessary for his set-up to function correctly.

I don't know all the licensing rules, but I sometimes wonder if the only reason DirecTV is keeping these now obsolete HD channels active at 110 because they cannot simply hold onto a prime satellite slot this way and do nothing with it. The FCC would certainly frown upon that.

So even if he did get 110, with a D11 and an R15, he wouldn't get anything off of them anyway.

[jertigger]

Reply to RobertE

The newer receivers DO NOT have a phase II or dual lnb setting anymore, the starting for multiple sat systems is triple lmb

[harsh]

DO NOT make the mistake of assuming that a "not purchased" warning is somehow related to signal strength.

[kevinturcotte]

Reply to RobertE

The newer receivers DO NOT have a phase II or dual lnb setting anymore, the starting for multiple sat systems is triple lmb

With ONLY HD channels on the 110 satellite, you won't be selecting anything on there anyway. I'd just make sure your 101 and 119 signal are satisfactory, and not worry about it.

[RobertE]

Reply to RobertE

The newer receivers DO NOT have a phase II or dual lnb setting anymore, the starting for multiple sat systems is triple lmb

Your right. Thought that was still in there. Sorry about that.

I still think your best option for rain fade would be to get the AK/HI dish kit.

[kevinturcotte]

Your right. Thought that was still in there. Sorry about that.

I still think your best option for rain fade would be to get the AK/HI dish kit.

Definitely! Little expensive though lol
Actually, probably be cheaper to get 2 large 4' dishes
http://www.thesatelliteshop.net/120cm-ku-band-offset-dish-antenna-fta-p-43.html

[litzdog911]

Here's what you need to do ....

* Set the Receiver's Satellite Setup for "Single LNB 18" Round Dish".

* Connect the Receiver to your 101ºW dish LNB. Peak this dish so that you see signals on most all of the 32 transponders. You should be able to receive all of your regular SD channels at this point. That's how you'll know that this dish is aimed properly at 101ºW.

* Now connect the Receiver to your 119º dish LNB. Peak this dish so that you see signals on ONLY transponders 22-32 (a few might be low or zero, that's OK). If you see signals only transponders 28, 30 and 32, then that dish is actually aimed at the 110ºW satellite. If you see signals on transponders 22-32, then you're properly aimed at the 119ºW satellite.

* Now connect the two dishes to the multiswitch SAT INPUTs. The first two INPUTS connect to the two 101ºW dish outputs, and the second two multiswitch inputs connect to the two 119ºW dish outputs.

* Connect your Receiver to one of the multiswitch outputs. Repeat the Receiver's Satellite Setup and specify "3-LNB Oval Phase III Dish". You should now have the correct channels, including your locals.

[HoTat2]

So even if he did get 110, with a D11 and an R15, he wouldn't get anything off of them anyway.

No, but if for some technical reason since there is no longer a Phase II option in the setup and the receivers must actually detect the three LNBs if Phase III is selected to function correctly then the OP may have no choice but to hook up a third dish for 110 based on litzdog's diagram #2

http://members.roadfly.com/litzdog911/AT9%20Dish%20Combo%205.jpg

One 30" dish for 101 is used in place of the AT-9, and the other 30" dish for the 119 with the Phase I for 110. The two HS-2 slitters are not necessary and the Sonora polarity locker or a powered multiswitch may best be used as well.

[bobnielsen]

Since 110 is combined with 119 (even channels) the receiver cannot distinguish between the two, except that transponders 8, 10 and 12 (converted from 28, 30 and 32 with the special LNB) will show zero signal strength if 110 is not present.

[litzdog911]

bob's right .... there's no reason to connect the 110º dish. My setup works fine with no 110º dish connected and the equipment set for "3-LNB Phase III" dish.

[jertigger]

Set receiver for 18" round dish--retuned dish for 101 strength 98-100---received all 101 channels
Connected 119 dish to receiver, had to change setup to 3-LNB Oval Phase III Dish in order to see 119 signal meter.

Before I adjusted dish checked all 3 meters
97-100 on 119 meters, 22-32 transponders
97-100 on 101 meter 30 of 32 transponders
97-100 on 110 meter 3 of 3 transponders

Before going any further I went back and checked the 101 dish with receiver set 3-LNB Oval Phase III Dish, read all 3 sats. approximately same strengths.

Ever so gently tried to adjust 119 dish, if I lost signal on one sat I lost it on all three, if I nudged in any direction to a weaker signal on one the all got weaker. I seem to see all 3 sats at same time on both dishes.

I cant get rid of 110 and 101 signals without loosing the 119 signal.

Further suggestions, turn dishes upside down, sideways, backwords, or maybe move where there is snow and use them for sleds

[texasbrit]

Set receiver for 18" round dish--retuned dish for 101 strength 98-100---received all 101 channels
Connected 119 dish to receiver, had to change setup to 3-LNB Oval Phase III Dish in order to see 119 signal meter.

Before I adjusted dish checked all 3 meters
97-100 on 119 meters, 22-32 transponders
97-100 on 101 meter 30 of 32 transponders
97-100 on 110 meter 3 of 3 transponders

Before going any further I went back and checked the 101 dish with receiver set 3-LNB Oval Phase III Dish, read all 3 sats. approximately same strengths.

Ever so gently tried to adjust 119 dish, if I lost signal on one sat I lost it on all three, if I nudged in any direction to a weaker signal on one the all got weaker. I seem to see all 3 sats at same time on both dishes.

I cant get rid of 110 and 101 signals without loosing the 119 signal.

Further suggestions, turn dishes upside down, sideways, backwords, or maybe move where there is snow and use them for sleds

I responded to your post on the DirecTV tech forum. The mistake you are making is that when you set up a round dish to look at 119, you need to point it at 119, correct? But the round dish will only see one satellite at a time, and it, and the receiver, think that satellite will be 101, so it will get displayed as if it were 101. So if the dish is aligned perfectly on 119, what the receiver will show is "101 signals" that are actually coming from 119, so you will only see TPs 22-32 because that's all 119 has.

[jertigger]

Thanks,

got it at that site, at least I dont have to move to the north country and use the dishes for sleds, have a much better understanding of what I did wrong, I thought too much. and acted on those wrong thoughts.

Sorry for being such a pest

[HoTat2]

Set receiver for 18" round dish--retuned dish for 101 strength 98-100---received all 101 channels
Connected 119 dish to receiver, had to change setup to 3-LNB Oval Phase III Dish in order to see 119 signal meter.

Before I adjusted dish checked all 3 meters
97-100 on 119 meters, 22-32 transponders
97-100 on 101 meter 30 of 32 transponders
97-100 on 110 meter 3 of 3 transponders

Before going any further I went back and checked the 101 dish with receiver set 3-LNB Oval Phase III Dish, read all 3 sats. approximately same strengths.

Ever so gently tried to adjust 119 dish, if I lost signal on one sat I lost it on all three, if I nudged in any direction to a weaker signal on one the all got weaker. I seem to see all 3 sats at same time on both dishes.

I cant get rid of 110 and 101 signals without loosing the 119 signal.

Further suggestions, turn dishes upside down, sideways, backwords, or maybe move where there is snow and use them for sleds

Yeah...

After reading yours, then texasbrit and litzdog911's reply posts on this issue in the DirecTV forum, I understand what is happening (finally! :)) . The 119 dish is still not dialed in correctly as I thought and is actually pointed at 101, otherwise when you connect a receiver directly to the 119 dish the 101 screen would not be reading levels 97-100 on 30 out of 32 transponders if it was properly pointed at 119, but on 22-32 at whatever levels.

The 110 and 119 Tps. screen levels are simply copies of those same numbered Tps. at 101. That's why the level readings are exactly mirrored that way across all three positions.

Keep the 119 dish on the Phase I round dish option in the receiver set-up during initial alignment and use the 101 level screen to align the dish until only transponders 22-32 light-up, and those numbers only. If you cannot find that specific transponder set anywhere or the levels are low then you have a LOS problem to 119 from that location and are going to have to reposition the dish. Preferably to someplace at or near the Phase III which you mentioned are receiving it well.

Once you have done that you should be good hook up the multiswitch and place all the receivers on the Phase III dish in the setup.

[jertigger]

[B]ALL DONE

Got it working, I appreciate your time and patience especially as we were nearing the end of this journey.

Thanks for sticking with my fumbling around.:hurah::hurah::hurah:

[HoTat2]

Needless to say I'm very glad to hear it. :dance01:

[boba]

Congratulations it was a simple problem in the end.

[texasbrit]

Pleased you could sort it out in the end.