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BarryW
07-08-03, 07:32 PM
Does anyone know if the superstations have many pro sports on it. I was considering adding them and just wondered how many pro games are on them.

Steve Mehs
07-08-03, 08:11 PM
Welcome to DBSTalk Barry! :wave:
The supers used to have a lot more baseball, but KWGN lost the rights to the Rockies, KTLA lost the rights to the Dodgers and WSBK lost the rights to the Red Sox a few years ago, and regained them this season, but all Sox games are blacked out on WSBK unless you live in their terrirory. WPIX used to have the Yankees, but now have a few Mets games, 1 or 2 a week on average. WSBK use to have Bruins games, but no longer does, but KTLA now has the Clippers basketball games and AFAIK WWOR still has Giants pre season games and 1 ESPN Plus NCAA football game on Saturdays.

So to wrap it up currently-

WPIX - A few Mets games
KTLA - LA Clippers
KWGN - None
WSBK - Sox, only if you live in the Boston area
WWOR - Giants pre season & 1 college football game/week

BarryW
07-08-03, 08:22 PM
Thanks for the info.

dfergie
07-08-03, 08:43 PM
Actually, WWOR had Monday Night Football when N.Y. teams played several times last year, and maybe Sunday Night also. The feeds were from abc and espn.

Steve Mehs
07-08-03, 08:53 PM
Are you sure about Monday Night? I Know Sunday night for sure they simulcast, because, this is just a guess for those who don't subscribe to cable/dbs and don't have ESPN. I didn't include them above because most subscribes already have access to those games w/o the need of the supers.

dfergie
07-08-03, 09:29 PM
I think you are right on relfection, Joe Thiessmans voice does come to mind. Thursday and Sunday ESPN broadcasts

Jacob S
07-08-03, 11:02 PM
Dont forget that UPN shows Smackdown WWE wresting on Thursday nights.

Chris Freeland
07-09-03, 06:57 AM
Dont forget that UPN shows Smackdown WWE wresting on Thursday nights.

He was asking about Sports, when did pro-wrestling become a sport? !rolling

FTA Michael
07-09-03, 09:31 AM
There are a few other shows now and then that make the Supers more interesting.

KTLA has the Tournament of Roses parade every year.
WSBK has a weekly Red Sox recap show.
Lots of extra opportunities to view your favorite WB, UPN, and Tribune shows.
And the lone opportunity to watch a few distant local newscasts on your TV in a completely legal, authorized way. What a thrill, huh? ;)

Steve Mehs
07-09-03, 09:37 AM
The local news is the majority of the reason I have the supers. I hardly watch any WB and UPN programming, but when I do I perfer to watch it on the supers rather then mu local WB and UPN. The novelity factor of watching OOM tv from markets other then Toronto and Rochester :) And with locals, supers are only $3 extra instead of the normal $6.

JohnL
07-09-03, 06:33 PM
The local news is the majority of the reason I have the supers. I hardly watch any WB and UPN programming, but when I do I perfer to watch it on the supers rather then mu local WB and UPN. The novelity factor of watching OOM tv from markets other then Toronto and Rochester :) And with locals, supers are only $3 extra instead of the normal $6.

How about superstation subscribers like me in my market where we don't have a WB station (we do but cable only and I don't call that a local channel if it's not available OTA). Lots of markets across the country don't have both WB and UPN local affiliates. Even if they do, many are Low power stations that only carry about 20-30 miles even with a high quality OTA antenna.

This is one of the single biggest reason I have Superstations, the other is that Dish qualifies subscribers with BOATs for the RV exemption for distant locals, DirecTV does not allow boaters RV exemptions.

John

music_beans
07-09-03, 06:50 PM
KTLA has the Tournament of Roses parade every year

So does CBS! :) :flag: :o :wave: :eek: :welcome:

tampa8
07-09-03, 06:57 PM
"This is one of the single biggest reason I have Superstations, the other is that Dish qualifies subscribers with BOATs for the RV exemption for distant locals, DirecTV does not allow boaters RV exemptions."

I didn't know this. Do you have other information about this - what you need to quilify?

Jacob S
07-09-03, 10:23 PM
I knew someone would say that it was not a sport. Never really said it did, was just mentioning it as I figured some that like sports might like wrestling too.

ccarmichael
07-10-03, 08:16 AM
So does CBS! :) :flag: :o :wave: :eek: :welcome:

but KTLA has it commercial free and repeats the big parade later in their broadcast day!

JohnL
07-10-03, 08:27 AM
"This is one of the single biggest reason I have Superstations, the other is that Dish qualifies subscribers with BOATs for the RV exemption for distant locals, DirecTV does not allow boaters RV exemptions."

I didn't know this. Do you have other information about this - what you need to quilify?

Tampa,


All you need do is go to Dish's Web site and find the RV exmeption page, download and print the PDF file. All you need for the RV waiver is valid State registration for a Boat or RV in the same name as the Dish Account holders name. Then you need to agree that you will not use the exemption to receive Distant signals in your home, Wink wink, say no more. Just select send in the RV waiver application you printed out selecting upto 2 distant cities, with a copy of the State registration. In about 2 to 4 weeks the distant cities channels will be turned on, viola done. Cost is $5.99 per month per city and remember to be sure to get the National PBS as it's included I had to call Dish to have them turn in on for me, but that was before PBS was included in the Distant cities package, before that is was Ala carte $1.00. There are package discounts any two distant cities or Local into Local or superstations for $8.99 or package any three for $11.99 after three you will pay $5.99 for each extra.

Remember that NYC and LA are the only distant cities on 119.

John

tampa8
07-10-03, 10:21 AM
JohnL
Thanks for your reply. I know about the RV exemption - I helped my Father-in-Law get one. I did not know about the boat exemption. I guess my question is - what constitutes a boat? Any boat? For an RV, States have a guideline as to what can be registered as an RV - for instance an SUV cannot be registered as an RV unless it has the items listed in the guideline. But a boat is a boat. Can you simply get some old small wreck of a boat and use that as the exemption. Unlike a motor vehicle, the boat can be registered without an inspection. If you never put it in the water, you can continue to register it, even if it is in pieces in your garage! (In Connecticut and many other states you could not do this with a motor vehicle because it has to go thru emmisions control testing every year or two) Unless I am missing something (highly possible!) this sounds like an easy way to get distants.

MikeW
07-10-03, 12:03 PM
I don't understand why you would go through the trouble of doing a boat/Rv instead of just moving. I don't think I'd go through the hassle/cost of buying a wreck and keeping it registered for the ability to "legally" get distants.

DCSholtis
07-10-03, 12:19 PM
but KTLA has it commercial free and repeats the big parade later in their broadcast day!

So does HGTV.

FTA Michael
07-10-03, 02:35 PM
Then you need to agree that you will not use the exemption to receive Distant signals in your home, Wink wink, say no more.It's better than that. You only have to promise that the "satellite dish antenna" that you permanently attach to your RV/boat will never be used at any fixed dwelling. The declaration says nothing about receivers. :righton:

My plan would be to buy a spare "satellite dish antenna", register a boat, affix the dish to the boat, send in the paperwork, wait for approval, then sell the boat. All within the letter of the law, and no ugly surprises ... until I might have to do it again to requalify sometime after "more than two years".

Read for yourself: http://www.dishnetwork.com/downloads/pdf/programming/RV_DECLARATION_6_LOCALS.pdf

TV38
07-10-03, 09:48 PM
Unfortunatly I do not see anything about a boat in the declaration.

JohnL
07-11-03, 07:25 AM
Unfortunatly I do not see anything about a boat in the declaration.


That is true, but Dish does grant boat owners the exemption. If you look at my post you will see my "RV Exemption" a Maxum 2800 SCR Cabin cruiser. Dish just doesn't advertise they grant boaters waivers otherwise the NAB would get upset and start legal solutions to remove any boaters from their RV exemption status.

I really don't see why boaters are NOT mentioned in the RV language, we use our Boats just like RV's to travel it's just on the water instead of roads.

Boaters travel just like RV'ers. I travel outside the US into Canada and I can't get US stations when I'm far enough from the US transmitters.

On the next renewal of the SVHIA I would hope that the exclusion of mentioning boaters in the RV exemption will be visited and corrected. Billy Tauzin (US Congressman) has been a supporter of the SVHIA legislation from the beginning. Mr. Tauzin is also a supporter of Boaters issues and has mentioned that Boaters Distant Satellite rights should be the same as RV'ers. Hopefully this will be retified, in the mean time Dish has and does grant boaters waivers as we are not mentioned as being excluded from RV exemptions in the legislation, but then again we are not mentioned as being granted that status either. Dish chooses to use broader definition of "RV" and has until they do change their stance I would suggest you file for your "Boater" RV exemption. BTW I've had my boater exemption for over 2 years, and Dish grants the exemption across a subscribers entire account on all receivers, DirecTV only allows one receiver on an account to have distant services.

In fact in the BOATUS magazine in May 2003 had a specific article talking about this very issue and states that DirecTV does NOT allow Boaters exemptions and that BOATUS and specific members of Congress will be fighting for Boater Distant signal rights.

In the July Issue in the letters to the editor section you will find a letter from myself clarifying that Dish does grant boaters waivers and why the NAB is against them. I could go into this is much more detail if you wish.

John

tampa8
07-12-03, 10:08 AM
JohnL,
Thanks for a very informative, first hand account of this. Would you know my earlier question, what would qualify as a boat for this exemption?

JohnL
07-12-03, 12:52 PM
JohnL,
Thanks for a very informative, first hand account of this. Would you know my earlier question, what would qualify as a boat for this exemption?

I really don't know what Dish would allow in respect what type of Boat, then again I really don't think they care, as any subscriber getting distant services means more money in their pocket.

I would think that any reasonable sized boat with a motor and a vaild State registration should do it.

John

hockeynut
07-13-03, 03:17 AM
KTLA - LA Clippers
KWGN - None
WSBK - Sox, only if you live in the Boston area
WWOR - Giants pre season & 1 college football game/week

KTLA had some St Louis Rams preseason games last year

No blackouts for re-run sox games on WSBK fridays at midnight ET (unlike all those fox sports net re-runs)... yea i know... wooo hooo