View Full Version : Is DTV Coming Out With A New GUI In 2010?
CraigerCSM
11-29-09, 07:36 PM
I forgot if they announced this or if their is any new info on this and what would it look like? Thanks.
Please, please, let it be an updated replaytv gui!
Hmm... Now who owns replaytv...
convem24
11-29-09, 09:26 PM
I have been hearing via the grapevine a new backend will go in place. Possibly not a new GUI itself but the functionality portion of the system (ie os, etc).
I have been hearing via the grapevine a new backend will go in place. Possibly not a new GUI itself but the functionality portion of the system (ie os, etc).
Would that new backend happen to have anything to do with a very large company who's name is somewhat synonymous with DVR...?
dirtyblueshirt
11-29-09, 09:58 PM
Actually you're right. I may be breaking some sort of NDA by saying this, but DirecTV will be using the futuristic interface found on the Motorola DCT 2000 featuring the TVGuide 30-minute-at-a-time channel guide!
Here's a super-secret sneak peek:
teebeebee1
11-29-09, 10:35 PM
actually you're right. I may be breaking some sort of nda by saying this, but directv will be using the futuristic interface found on the motorola dct 2000 featuring the tvguide 30-minute-at-a-time channel guide!
Here's a super-secret sneak peek:
siiiiiiiiiiiiiick!!!
I just threw-up in my mouth a little bit.
CraigerCSM
11-30-09, 06:52 AM
Actually you're right. I may be breaking some sort of NDA by saying this, but DirecTV will be using the futuristic interface found on the Motorola DCT 2000 featuring the TVGuide 30-minute-at-a-time channel guide!
Here's a super-secret sneak peek:
Are you being sarcastic or is that for real? :)
Stuart Sweet
11-30-09, 07:26 AM
There have been rumors of changes to the GUI but given DIRECTV's history and large installed base, I'd expect them to be evolutionary, not revolutionary.
wilbur_the_goose
11-30-09, 10:28 AM
Just give us a HD GUI - pluheeze???
Stuart Sweet
11-30-09, 10:40 AM
I'd love an HD GUI with more lines in the guide, too, but I think there the issue is time invested vs. reward.
tcusta00
11-30-09, 11:25 AM
I wonder if they would change the GUI on any new hardware that's rolling out and leave the old hardware (that may or may not be able to handle it) alone. Just a thought... discuss. :)
Will be interesting what happens once Dish releases their receiver with HD GUI and starts marketing it. That might light a little fire under DirecTV to invest more heavily in an HD GUI.
David MacLeod
11-30-09, 11:27 AM
I wonder if they would change the GUI on any new hardware that's rolling out and leave the old hardware (that may or may not be able to handle it) alone. Just a thought... discuss. :)
I would not be surprised if this is the case, as Stuart just said time spent vs reward may apply on older hardware.
wingrider01
11-30-09, 11:38 AM
Would that new backend happen to have anything to do with a very large company who's name is somewhat synonymous with DVR...?
hope not, detest windows 3.0 style menus
Stuart Sweet
11-30-09, 11:39 AM
Changes to the HR2x receivers have nothing, zero, zip to do with any other DVR company. Period.
rudeney
11-30-09, 02:00 PM
An HD GUI would be nice, but what about all the people (like me) running SDTV's off their HD receivers? In my case, I have one SDTV running off the composite video port on the HR20 that also feed my 50" HDTV. This may make it more complicated than we are thinking.
Stuart Sweet
11-30-09, 02:03 PM
Theoretically, instead of the current GUI being upsampled to HD, the new GUI would be downsampled to SD. I agree that it might be hard to read.
I'd also welcome a new HD GUI for the H2x and HR2x series. Alot of the text is blurry and just not crisp.
Alan Gordon
11-30-09, 02:30 PM
Changes to the HR2x receivers have nothing, zero, zip to do with any other DVR company. Period.
Sad if true.... :(
~Alan
RobertE
11-30-09, 02:37 PM
I wonder if they would change the GUI on any new hardware that's rolling out and leave the old hardware (that may or may not be able to handle it) alone. Just a thought... discuss. :)
I can see that happening with the next true generation of receivers. H/HR3x if you will. Or the mythical "Home Media Server". Until then, I'm afraid we are more or less stuck with this one. :(
MountainMan10
11-30-09, 06:43 PM
An HD GUI would be nice, but what about all the people (like me) running SDTV's off their HD receivers? In my case, I have one SDTV running off the composite video port on the HR20 that also feed my 50" HDTV. This may make it more complicated than we are thinking.
It is not just users with SD TV's. It would be the same for anyone using Native On and watching a 480i channel.
Tom Servo
11-30-09, 10:35 PM
I would hope they would know better than to foist HD OSD onto these poor overtaxed boxes. If they introduced a new HD DVR model that happened to have a much faster processor AND HD graphics, well I'd seriously consider upgrading. That'd be really tempting.
I'm OK with the current GUI. I think that there is quite a benefit to having the entire line of recievers have the same look and feel. This group can adapt to anything DirecTV has to throw at us, but there is a larger base of customer who don't like change and wouldn't adapt without a lot of tech support help. I also wouldn't want to compromise speed for beauty.
hdtvfan0001
12-01-09, 02:10 AM
I'm OK with the current GUI. I think that there is quite a benefit to having the entire line of recievers have the same look and feel.
I suspect that's the overall plan...whereby any changes are evolutionary, not revolutionary.
rudeney
12-01-09, 11:57 AM
It is not just users with SD TV's. It would be the same for anyone using Native On and watching a 480i channel.
Oh, yes, excellent point. This almost means they would have to support two different GUI's, and I just don't see that happening - it would be too costly to maintain.
Alan Gordon
12-01-09, 12:06 PM
An HD GUI would be nice, but what about all the people (like me) running SDTV's off their HD receivers? In my case, I have one SDTV running off the composite video port on the HR20 that also feed my 50" HDTV. This may make it more complicated than we are thinking.
I have a TiVo Series 3 (with HD GUI) running on a 50-inch SDTV.
It works fine.
~Alan
Shades228
12-01-09, 12:11 PM
I would hope they would know better than to foist HD OSD onto these poor overtaxed boxes. If they introduced a new HD DVR model that happened to have a much faster processor AND HD graphics, well I'd seriously consider upgrading. That'd be really tempting.
This has been rehashed many times. There is no proof the cpu's are over utilized and that a HD GUI would not work because of it.
Displaying a static 2D HD image is more a function of the GPU than the CPU.
And I believe the HRs are up to the task. They just need to code for it.
Seems like there could be an HD GUI base in every H2x and HR2x, and that it could be downscaled as a changeable option in the setup, for those TV's that don't quite meet par for readability. Maybe some sort of HDMI handshake ON/OFF switch, like with 1080p.
Or the mythical "Home Media Server".It may be that the fabled "Whole Home DVR" doesn't have a video output at all.
Hardcore server people tend to frown on high powered graphics subsystems.
I wonder if they would change the GUI on any new hardware that's rolling out and leave the old hardware (that may or may not be able to handle it) alone. Just a thought... discuss. :)I suspect that the current text display resolution may be due to a design limitation in the character generator system. If this is the case, a hardware upgrade would certainly be needed.
I'd love an HD GUI with more lines in the guide, too, but I think there the issue is time invested vs. reward.
boulderdash !!! IF you have an HD receiver and the GUI is not HD then all you have is junk, but the reason we have no HD guide yet, is cause the systems are taxed as it is, adding HD would overload it, sarcasm
there is no good reason why we do not have an HD guide for hd receivers other than baloney lies
tcusta00
12-01-09, 04:17 PM
boulderdash !!! IF you have an HD receiver and the GUI is not HD then all you have is junk, but the reason we have no HD guide yet, is cause the systems are taxed as it is, adding HD would overload it, sarcasm
there is no good reason why we do not have an HD guide for hd receivers other than baloney lies
Lies? What lies? And who's telling them? :scratchin
DBSTalk is populated with people who like to discuss and speculate about the future of... wait for it... dbs. There is no "official" word until the final product is released to the public from the manufacturer, in this case, DirecTV.
dreadlk
12-01-09, 04:27 PM
boulderdash !!! IF you have an HD receiver and the GUI is not HD then all you have is junk, but the reason we have no HD guide yet, is cause the systems are taxed as it is, adding HD would overload it, sarcasm
there is no good reason why we do not have an HD guide for hd receivers other than baloney lies
Welcome to the Forum.
You may have a point, the system does seem to be taxed, also there is the issue of people using HR's on SD tv's. In any case its clear that Directv has now got the HR-2X's running almost perfectly and one would figure that they might not want to add more load and screw things up. I agree with this posistion, I would rather have a fast SD Guide than have a slow 5 second keypress HD Guide.
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