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upmichigan
12-07-09, 02:58 PM
Anyone with some insight on this, and yes I have read the new bill. Still confused. I feel as Im a criminal...not my fault though they never turned em off.
raoul5788
12-07-09, 03:07 PM
Anyone with some insight on this, and yes I have read the new bill. Still confused. I feel as Im a criminal...not my fault though they never turned em off.

I have heard of some that were cut off from the DNS feeds fairly quickly, others that still have them many months later.
joshjr
12-07-09, 03:54 PM
It depends on how long you have had the DNS waivers approved. Have you had them since 2004? If not then they will eventually be cut off.
Dan Serafini
12-07-09, 03:58 PM
I still get the SD versions of Fox, ABC, and NBC east and west.

I occasionally ask for the HD versions but am declined. It worked out yesterday when I got see the Saints-Redskins finish instead of the beloved (but lousy) Bears on Fox.
Shades228
12-07-09, 05:09 PM
It depends on how long you have had the DNS waivers approved. Have you had them since 2004? If not then they will eventually be cut off.

At any point, grandfathered or not, the local affiliates can request the DNS to be turned off once locals are in the area. At that time they will have to remove them. Grandfathered just means that it isn't done automatically.
joshjr
12-07-09, 09:30 PM
At any point, grandfathered or not, the local affiliates can request the DNS to be turned off once locals are in the area. At that time they will have to remove them. Grandfathered just means that it isn't done automatically.

I havnt really heard of any cases of that on here in the last year and a half.
blc
12-08-09, 10:56 AM
Anyone who is truly "grandfathered" under the statute may retain their DNS regardless of what the local affiliates do. The law is written such that if you are grandfathered, the local affiliates have no say over removing your DNS. This is because grandfathering is different than a waiver granted under the statute. A waiver may be withdrawn by the local affiliate, grandfathering may not.
blc
12-08-09, 11:01 AM
To put it more succinctly, "grandfathering" is a statutory right granted by Congress to a subscriber; whereas, a "waiver" is a permissive right granted by the local affiliate at the affiliate's discretion and favor.
Herdfan
12-08-09, 11:10 AM
To put it more succinctly, "grandfathering" is a statutory right granted by Congress to a subscriber; whereas, a "waiver" is a permissive right granted by the local affiliate at the affiliate's discretion and favor.

Yes it is, but there is no requirement that D* provide them. There may in fact be stipulations in the contracts D* has with affiliates that D* no longer provide DNS to subs with locals. I could easily see that being part of blanket agreements with the large affiliate ownership groups like Sinclair. Not saying it is, but it could be.
davring
12-08-09, 11:14 AM
From what I have read here, over the years, is that apparently D* periodically reviews the DNS roster and corrects the oversights.
Dan Serafini
12-10-09, 12:13 PM
Why would D* remove them without pressure from the locals? They make ~$10 / month from me for them!
Shades228
12-10-09, 03:14 PM
Why would D* remove them without pressure from the locals? They make ~$10 / month from me for them!

They also have to pay as well and who knows what the rate is for that part. Sure they make a profit off of it but that profit might not be worth the hassle. The main thing is DirecTV really doesn't care unless it can get them into a legal situation just like blackouts.