Caprica: Rebirth 29Jan2010

[armophob]

So I was watching the second episode of Caprica and then the Zoe character said.........

ZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz:zzz::zzz::zzz:

[jkane]

ROTFL!

Hey .. there was some blood! And the "criminal" guy teaching that kid how to get away with crime. I'll give it a couple more episodes.

[dreadlk]

I actually liked it, but if it keeps moving slowly that opinion will change quickly.

[phrelin]

I liked it. Now the problem for Syfy's goals - my wife loved BSG and does not like this so far. About that goal of expanding the audience base.... But maybe she'll come around.

[russ9]

The episode on the 5th wasn't an improvement. The flipping back and forth of Zoe/Cyclon just gets annoying. Didn't work on Stargate:SGI, doesn't work here.

SighFi

Is Geek Friday officially dead?

[jkane]

SighFi

ROTFLMAO! Best description yet!

[Henry]

So far (three episodes including the two-hour premier) I'm really liking it. You just about have to have been a BSG follower to get a lot of what's going on.

[cj9788]

BSG and Caprica are way two diffrent wolrds. I loved BSG I only like Caprica.


I did enjoy the scene when the tech working on Zoe/First Cylon wanted to make her/it dance. When he was changing radio stations the second station was playing the original Battlestar Galactica theme song. I was disappointed in the closed captions as all it said was "orchestra music". IMO it should have identified the song being played.



I too liked the comment "sighfi" good one.

[jkane]

The acting is very good. The writing is mediocre. The action is non-existent.

If there were anything else at all on TV this winter, I'd be watching it instead. But this is about the best thing on right now. That's not an endorsement of Caprica. It's an insult to everything else!

[phrelin]

I'm holding out to episode 5 to make any real judgments. I think the writing is maturing slowly and the character development is interesting. But so far it is disappointingly slow-paced.

I still stand by my initial evaluation of the idea:Probably. It's likely to be fairly sophisticated at the psychological/mental level - initially about a robot created by one company with an artificial intelligence system created by another company into which the mind/being of a computing genius teen age girl is downloaded. The pilot is all about how that happened, very complex drama but truly scifi interesting with room for some serious action.

It is a prequel to BSG, but at this point I believe that BSG knowledge is irrelevant in the same sense that while Fox's "Fringe" makes occasional subtext level references to "X-Files" it is irrelevant to the show. What will happen is ardent BSG fans will offer some "clever" or "wrong" opinions about that, but none of it will be important to this series.

BSG is about robots v humans. So is the Terminator movies & TV series. This show probably, I hope, will dig deeply into the how and why an adversarial relationship develops between robots and humans.

To my pea brain, it relates to what we humans are now doing with robotics and the lack of adherence to the need to incorporate Isaac Asimov's Three Laws of Robotics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Laws_of_Robotics) into our robotics which you may recall are:

A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
A robot must obey any orders given to it by human beings, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.
In one sense, it is about exploring just how foolish we can be. But in a scifi narrative.I am surprised by the extent they've advanced the human religious and ethnic conflict subtext. It's interesting.

[GrumpyBear]

BSG and Caprica are way two diffrent wolrds. I loved BSG I only like Caprica.


I did enjoy the scene when the tech working on Zoe/First Cylon wanted to make her/it dance. When he was changing radio stations the second station was playing the original Battlestar Galactica theme song. I was disappointed in the closed captions as all it said was "orchestra music". IMO it should have identified the song being played.



I too liked the comment "sighfi" good one.

Caprica,
is that season and a half that almost KILLED off the BSG fan base. I am holding out that somehow they can fix this.

[FogCutter]

I'm enjoying the series, but they have to advance the plot. We know where it is going assuming the show avoids cancellation, so they have to make the journey fascinating.
There are glimmers of hope, but so far only glimmers. They have tremendous potential to kill the story while trying to develop it.

[Church AV Guy]

There are bits that just defy imagination. The incident where Adama's uncle breaks into that governmental official's home and kills him with a knife, is one. There was nothing after that about it! Huh? He does this, leaving no evidence? There is no comment on an investigation? It seems incredible that there was no security at all, and he could just DO such a thing.

[phrelin]

The curious thing about this show is the need to reconcile what seems are inconsistencies - the e-sheets and robots are advanced technology while the cars and many other things look like the mid-20th Century.

It helps to review a little background from "Battlestar Galactica" (BSG) just to clarify where we are. The freedom to do this is granted by one big assumption - the time frame is 58 years before the events seen in BSG which ended with the revelation that the events in that show took place more than 150,000 years in the past as a fictional tale of origin for modern humanity.

Remember that in BSG reference was made to a phrase from the Sacred Scrolls: "All this has happened before, and all of it will happen again." A key leader character from that series Laura Roslin (http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Laura_Roslin) stated specifically: "If you believe in the gods, then you believe in the cycle of time that we are all playing our parts in a story that is told again, and again, and again throughout eternity."

The question in my mind does this mean humanity is condemned to repeat every little second of every event over and over? The answer in BSG seemed to be "no" so that allows for inconsistencies within Caprica when relating to our time. However, it seems to me that we will repeat the themes of one morality play, maybe until we get it right if there is such a thing.

[armophob]

Ah FRAC!! :nono::nono:I just got involved. Frac Frac FRac.

Ok just don't cancel it now:p

[jkane]

So who's more evil, the rich guys daughter, or Adama's?

This last one was a bit better. At least there was some blood even if it was only virtual. I really liked her (virtual girl's) answer to what are you? :)

Still over all slow, but getting a little better.

Yeah ... don't cancel it now!

[AllenE]

Anybody else think this series is maturing nicely, and has found it's legs.

I really enjoyed the last two episodes and am looking forward to Friday.

BTW, I am from the school that does not require things blowing up to enjoy a movie.

[Henry]

Anybody else think this series is maturing nicely, and has found it's legs.

I really enjoyed the last two episodes and am looking forward to Friday.

BTW, I am from the school that does not require things blowing up to enjoy a movie.

+1

[phrelin]

Anybody else think this series is maturing nicely, and has found it's legs.

I really enjoyed the last two episodes and am looking forward to Friday.

BTW, I am from the school that does not require things blowing up to enjoy a movie.Absolutely! Now if we and the other 18 viewers will each chip in a couple of million, we can assure a second season.;)

[tsmacro]

Yeah honestly i've been pleasantly surprised. I wasn't really expecting much out of this series and I do find myself enjoying it.

[FogCutter]

I keep waiting for them to lose the main plot to explore endless vignettes, but so far they have continued to pull forward by inches. That's OK, good even.

Still enjoying the show. Fingers crossed they won't kill it.

[FogCutter]

Redeemed. The 3-19 episode saved the series. The plot will not spend years wandering in the wasteland.

It's been worth the wait.

[russ9]

Yep, actually it was the last moment the week before when Graystone looked at the cylon and said "Zoe?"

And of course, next week is the season finale.....

[FogCutter]

They are sewing the seeds of the future robot rebellion. Maybe the Cylons are best thought of as cranky teenage girls with nukes.

I am relieved.

Now, is there any hope for Stargate Universe?

[AllenE]

...
And of course, next week is the season finale.....

Actually the way they worded it made it sound like the series finale, and next weeks show is entitled "The end of the line"

Hope I am wrong.