SixtoReport: DirecTV National HD Listing/Maps

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Updated 05/08/2012 - Recent changes in RED
DirecTV HD National Channel Summary

108 HD Networks
108 - HD Non-Sports (Non-RSNs)


27 HD Full-time Regional Sport Networks (RSN's)
135 - HD with Sports (RSNs)


30 HD Cinema
165 - HD with PPV


4 3D (n3D, 3net, Cinema, ESPN3D)
169 - HD with 3D


8 HD DNS Locals: CBS/NBC/ABC/FOX East&West
177 - HD/3D with DNS

DirecTV HD National Game-Only Channel Summary

Approximately 45+ HD Part-time 3D, RSN's & Game-only Alternate's

DirecTV HD Premium Sports Packages

17 HD for NFL Sunday Ticket - MPEG4(Ka) - Has been 702-718
30 HD for MLB Extra Innings - MPEG4(Ka) mostly re-map of RSN's
18 HD for NBA League Pass - MPEG4(Ka) mostly re-map of RSN's
16 HD for NHL Center Ice - MPEG4(Ka) mostly re-map of RSN's
6 HD for MLS Direct Kick - MPEG4(Ka) mostly re-map of RSN's
4 HD for NASCAR - MPEG4(Ka), part-time
2 HD for Cricket - MPEG4(Ka), part-time

DirecTV-10 / DirecTV-11 / DirecTV-12 Transponder Mapping
See post#2 (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?p=2366653) below.

DirecTV National HD Channel Listing
DNS Local: 390/391 - CBS HD (u) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
DNS Local: 392/393 - NBC HD (u) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
DNS Local: 396/397 - ABC HD (u) MPEG4(Ka) 720p
DNS Local: 398/399 - FOX HD (u) MPEG4(Ka) 720p
OLD 99 - PPV HD (a) MPEG2(Ku) 1080i - Removed on 8/14/2008
NET 101/201/239/334/500 - Audience Network HD (p) MPEG4(Ka) 720p
NET 103 - n3D 3D (yy) MPEG4(Ka) 3D
NET 104 - Cinema 3D (yy) MPEG4(Ka) 3D
NET 106 - ESPN 3D (vv,kkk) MPEG4(Ka) 3D
NET 107 - 3net 3D (ggg) MPEG4(Ka) 3D
PTM 122/124 - PPV HD Special Events (?) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i Event-Only
OLD 125 - Cinema HD (f,ll,mm,fff) MPEG4(Ka) 1080p (Replaced by Altitude HD 681, added back by replacing 9215 1080p, removed)
CNM 126 - Cinema HD (f) MPEG4(Ka) 1080p
CNM 127 - Cinema HD (f,pp) MPEG4(Ka) 1080p (Replaced by 9178 HD NCC TEST, then re-added back)
OLD 128 - Cinema HD (v,kkk) MPEG4(Ka) 1080p (Replaced by ESPN3D)
CNM 129 - Cinema HD (v) MPEG4(Ka) 1080p
OLD 130 - Cinema HD (w,tt) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i (Replaced by Univision HD)
CNM 130-133 (4) - Cinema HD (xx) MPEG4(Ka) 1080p
OLD 134 - Cinema HD (xx,kkk) MPEG4(Ka) 1080p (Replaced by @MAXHD)
OLD 135 - Cinema HD (zz,kkk) MPEG4(Ka) 1080p (Replaced by HB2wHD)
OLD 136 - Cinema HD (mm, iii) MPEG4(Ka) 1080p (Replaced by 568 SHRTHD)
CNM 137 - Cinema HD (mm) MPEG4(Ka) 1080p
OLD 138 - Cinema HD (k,kkk) MPEG4(Ka) 1080p (Replaced by 5MAXHD)
OLD 139 - Cinema HD (k,kkk) MPEG4(Ka) 1080p (Replaced by WMAXHD)
CNM 140-143 (4) - Cinema HD (k) MPEG4(Ka) 1080p
CNM 144-147 (4) - Cinema HD (v) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
CNM 148 - Cinema HD (k) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
CNM 149-153 (5) - Cinema HD (v) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
CNM 154-155 (2) - Cinema HD (v) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i (World Cup/Tennis uses these two slots)
CNM 156-157 (2) - Cinema HD (w) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
CNM 158 - Cinema HD (v) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
OLD 159 - Cinema HD (jj,rr) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i (Replaced by Versus HD 603)
CNM 159-160 (2) - Cinema HD (xx) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
CNM 161 - Cinema HD (zz) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
CNM 162 - Cinema HD (ddd) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
OLD 163-164 (2) - Cinema HD (ddd,???) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i (Removed for Mix)
OLD 165 - Cinema HD (ddd,fff) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i Added and then Removed
NET 202 - CNN HD (b) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
NET 206 - ESPN HD (a,u) MPEG4(Ka) 720p
NET 207 - ESPNEWS HD (r) MPEG4(Ka) 720p
NET 208 - ESPNU HD (uu) MPEG4(Ka) 720p (from 614 to 208 on 6/30/2010)
NET 209 - ESPN2 HD (a,u) MPEG4(Ka) 720p
NET 212 - NFL Network HD (b) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
NET 213 - MLB Network HD (bb) MPEG4(Ka) 720p (Replaced PPV HD 144)
PTM 214-1 - MLB Network HD - Alternate (gg) MPEG4(Ka) 720p Game-Only
NET 215 - NHL Network HD (j) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
NET 216 - NBA TV HD (i) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i (Moved from 601 to 216 on 7/1/2009)
NET 217 - Tennis Channel HD (o) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
NET 218 - Golf HD (aa) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i (Split from Versus and moved from 605)
NET 229 - HGTV HD (f) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
NET 231 - Food Network HD (e) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
NET 236 - E! HD (nnn) MPEG4(Ka) ?
NET 237 - Bravo HD (c) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
NET 241 - Spike TV HD (k) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
NET 242 - USA Network HD (c) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
NET 244 - Syfy HD (c) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
NET 245 - TNT HD (a,u) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
NET 246 - TruTV HD (mmm) MPEG4(Ka) ?
NET 247 - TBS HD (b) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
NET 248 - FX HD (f) MPEG4(Ka) 720p
NET 249 - Comedy Central HD (cc) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i (Replaced PPV HD 146)
NET 252 - Lifetime HD (ww) MPEG4(Ka) ?
NET 254 - AMC HD (lll) MPEG4(Ka) ?
NET 265 - A&E HD (b) MPEG4(Ka) 720p
NET 266 - Biography Channel HD (l) MPEG4(Ka) 720p
NET 269 - The History Channel HD (b) MPEG4(Ka) 720p
NET 277 - Travel Channel HD (uu) MPEG4(Ka) ?
NET 276 - National Geographic Channel HD (e) MPEG4(Ka) 720p
NET 278 - Discovery Channel HD (b) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
NET 280 - TLC HD (b) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
NET 281 - Velocity HD (a,u) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
NET 282 - Animal Planet HD (b) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
NET 284 - The Science Channel HD (b) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
NET 286 - Planet Green HD (v) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
NET 290 - Disney Channel HD (r) MPEG4(Ka) 720p
NET 292 - Disney XD HD (r) MPEG4(Ka) 720p
NET 296 - Cartoon Network East HD (f) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
NET 299 - Nickelodeon East HD (k) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
NET 306 - HDNet (a,u) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
PTM 306-1 - HDNet Alternate (x) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
NET 307 - WGN HD (uu) MPEG4(Ka) ?
NET 311 - ABC Family HD (v) MPEG4(Ka) 720p
NET 312 - Hallmark HD (ww) MPEG4(Ka) ?
NET 327 - Country Music Television HD (k) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
NET 329 - BET HD (ii) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i (Replaced Cinema HD Old-138)
NET 331 - MTV HD (k) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
NET 335 - VH1 HD (k) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
NET 355 - CNBC HD (e) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
NET 356 - MSNBC HD (uu) MPEG4(Ka) ?
NET 359 - Fox Business Channel HD (f) MPEG4(Ka) 720p
NET 360 - Fox News Channel HD (x) MPEG4(Ka) 720p (Replaced PPV HD 149)
NET 362 - The Weather Channel HD (b) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
NET 402 - Univision HD (tt) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i (Replaced Cinema HD 130)
NET 405 - Mega TV HD (ccc) D7S (119°) MPEG?(Ku) 1080i
NET 408 - Telefutura HD (tt) D7S (119°) MPEG?(Ku) 1080i
PTM 471-1 thru 476-1 (6) MLS Direct Kick HD (MPEG4(Ka) part-time, mostly re-map of D10/D11 RSN's)
PTM 478-1 thru 479-1 (2) Cricket HD (MPEG4(Ka) part-time)
NET 501 - HBO East HD (a,u) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
NET 502 - HBO2 East HD (ww) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
NET 503 - HBO Signature East HD (hhh) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
NET 504 - HBO West HD (c) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
NET 505 - HBO2 West HD (kkk) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
NET 507 - HBO Family East HD (hhh) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
NET 506 - HBO Comedy HD (jjj) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
NET 509 - HBO Zone HD (ww) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
NET 511 - HBO Latino HD (jjj) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
NET 515 - Cinemax East HD (c) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
NET 516 - Cinemax West HD (c) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
NET 517 - Cinemax MoreMax HD (jjj) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
NET 519 - Cinemax ActionMax HD (jjj) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
NET 520 - Cinemax 5 StarMax HD (kkk) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
NET 521 - Cinemax WMax HD (kkk) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
NET 522 - Cinemax ThrillerMax HD (jjj) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
NET 523 - Cinemax @MAX HD (kkk) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
NET 525 - Starz Kids & Family HD (b) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
NET 526 - Starz Comedy HD (b) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
NET 527 - Starz East HD (b) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
NET 528 - Starz West HD (b) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
NET 529 - Starz Edge HD (b) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
NET 530 - Starz in Black HD (ww) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
NET 531 - Starz Cinema HD (ww) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
NET 535 - Encore East HD (ww) MPEG4(Ka) ?
NET 545 - Showtime East HD (a,u) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
NET 546 - Showtime West HD (b) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
NET 547 - Showtime Too HD (b) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
NET 548 - Showtime Showcase HD (v) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
NET 549 - Showtime Extreme HD (v) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
NET 550 - Showtime Beyond HD (ww) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
NET 551 - Showtime Next HD (ww) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
NET 552 - Showtime Women HD (ww) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
NET 554 - The Movie Channel East HD (b) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
NET 556 - The Movie Channel XTra HD (ww) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
NET 560 - Hallmark Movie Channel HD (uu) MPEG4(Ka) ?
NET 561 - HDNet Movies (a,u) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
NET 562 - MGM HD (e) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
NET 563 - Sony Movie Channel HD (eee) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
NET 564 - Universal HD (a,u) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
NET 565 - Smithsonian HD (b) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
NET 566 - Crime & Investigation HD (y) MPEG4(Ka) 720p (Replaced PPV HD 139)
NET 567 - Palladia HD (d) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
NET 568 - Shorts HD (iii) MPEG4(Ka) ?
NET 603 - NBC Sports HD (b,aa,jj,rr) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i (Replaced Cinema HD 159)
NET 607 - Speed Channel HD (f) MPEG4(Ka) 720p
PTM 609-1 (seasonal) - Big Ten Network HD - Alternate (kk) MPEG4(Ka) 720p
NET 610 - Big Ten Network HD (b) MPEG4(Ka) 720p
PTM 611-1 (seasonal) - Big Ten Network HD - Alternate (kk) MPEG4(Ka) 720p
PTM 612-1 (seasonal) - Big Ten Network HD - Alternate (kk) MPEG4(Ka) 720p
NET 613 - CBS College Sports HD (o) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
PTM 615-1 (seasonal) - Big Ten Network HD - Alternate (?) MPEG4(Ka) 720p
PTM 616-1 - Mountain West Sports Network HD - Alternate (?) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
PTM 617-1 - Fox College Sports HD - Alternate (?) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
NET 618 - Fuel TV HD (f) MPEG4(Ka) 720p
NET 619 - Fox Soccer Channel HD (bbb) MPEG4(Ka) ?
NET 426/620 - GolTV HD (aaa) MPEG4(Ka) ?
PTM 623-1 - Fox College Sports - Alternate (h) MPEG4(Ka) 720p Game-Only
PTM 625-1 (seasonal) - Big Ten Network HD - Alternate (h) MPEG4(Ka) 720p Game-Only
RSN 628 - NESN HD (c) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
PTM 629-1 - NESN HD - Alternate (gg) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i Game-Only
RSN 630 - Comcast SportsNet New England HD (k,z) MPEG4(Ka) 720p Game-Only (Replaced PPV HD 150, Now Full-time)
RSN 631 - YES HD (c) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
PTM 632 - YES Bonus Cam HD (ff) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
PTM 633-1 - YES HD - Alternate (ss) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
RSN 634 - Madison Square Garden (MSG) HD (m) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
RSN 635 - MSG Plus HD (m) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
PTM 636-1 - MSG/MSG+ HD - Alternate (n) MPEG4(Ka) Game-Only
PTM 637-1 - MSG/MSG+ HD - Alternate (n) MPEG4(Ka) Game-Only
PTM 638-1 - MSG/MSG+ HD - Alternate (?) MPEG4(Ka) Game-Only
RSN 639 - SportsNet NewYork (SNY) HD (c) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
RSN 640 - Mid-Atlantic Sports Network HD (q,ee) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i (Replaced PPV HD Old-134, Now Full-time)
PTM 641-1 - Mid-Atlantic Sports Network HD - Alternate (t) MPEG4(Ka) Game-Only
RSN 642 - Comcast SportsNet Mid-Atlantic HD (c) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
PTM 643-1 - Comcast SportsNet Mid-Atlantic HD - Alternate (?) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
PTM 644-1 - FSN Tennessee HD (?) MPEG4(Ka) 720p
PTM 645-1 - FSN Carolina HD (?) MPEG4(Ka) 720p
RSN 646 - FSN South HD (k,v) MPEG4(Ka) 720p Game-Only
PTM 647-1 - Fox Sports South Plus HD - Alternate (m) MPEG4(Ka) Game-Only
PTM 648-1 - Fox Sports South HD - Alternate (n) MPEG4(Ka) Game-Only
RSN 649 - SportsSouth HD (k,v) MPEG4(Ka) 720p Game-Only
PTM 650-1 - RSN Overflow HD - Alternate (?) MPEG4(Ka) 720p
PTM 652-1 - RSN HD - Alternate (ll) MPEG4(Ka) 720p Game-Only
RSN 653 - Sunshine Sports HD (k,v) MPEG4(Ka) 720p Game-Only
RSN 654 - FSN Florida HD (k,ww) MPEG4(Ka) 720p
PTM 655-1 - FSN Florida Plus HD - Alternate (k) MPEG4(Ka) 720p Game-Only
PTM 656-1 - Sunshine Sports HD - Alternate (k) MPEG4(Ka) 720p Game-Only
PTM 658-1 - RSN HD - Alternate (ll) MPEG4(Ka) 720p Game-Only
RSN 659 - FSN Pittsburgh HD (g,v) MPEG4(Ka) 720p Game-Only
PTM 660-1 - FSN Ohio HD (k) MPEG4(Ka) 720p Game-Only (Full-time delayed since 8/14/2008)
PTM 661-1 - FSN Cincinnati HD (k) MPEG4(Ka) 720p Game-Only (Full-time delayed since 8/14/2008)
RSN 662 - SportsTime Ohio HD (s,ee) MPEG4(Ka) (Replaced PPV HD Old-145, Now Full-time)
RSN 663 - FSN Detroit HD (f) MPEG4(Ka) 720p
PTM 664-1 - Fox Sports Detroit HD - Alternate (oo) MPEG4(Ka) 720p Game-Only
RSN 665 - Comcast SportsNet Chicago HD (c) MPEG4(Ka) 1080i
PTM 666-1 - Comcast SportsNet Chicago Plus HD - Alternate (t) MPEG4(Ka) Game-Only
RSN 668 - FSN North HD (k,v) MPEG4(Ka) 720p Game-Only
PTM 669-1 - FSN Wisconsin HD (k) MPEG4(Ka) 720p Game-Only
RSN 671 - FSN Midwest HD (g,v) MPEG4(Ka) 720p Game-Only
PTM 672-1 - FSN Kansas City HD - Alternate (k) MPEG4(Ka) 720p Game-Only
PTM 673-1 - FSN Indiana HD - Alternate (m) MPEG4(Ka) Game-Only
PTM 675-1 - RSN HD - Alternate (ss) MPEG4(Ka) 720p Game-Only
RSN 676 - FSN Southwest HD (f) MPEG4(Ka) 720p
PTM 677-1 - FSN Southwest HD - Alternate (m) MPEG4(Ka) Game-Only
PTM 678-1 - FSN Houston HD - Alternate (k) MPEG4(Ka) 720p Game-Only
PTM 679-1 - FSN Oklahoma HD - Alternate (?) MPEG4(Ka) 720p Game-Only
PTM 680-1 - RSN HD - Alternate (hh) MPEG4(Ka) 720p Game-Only
RSN 681 - Altitude HD (k,ll) MPEG4(Ka) 720p Game-Only (Replaced CINEHD 125, Now Full-Time)
PTM 682-1 - Altitude Sports HD - Alternate (m) MPEG4(Ka) Game-Only
RSN 683 - FSN Rocky Mountain HD (k,v) MPEG4(Ka) 720p Game-Only
PTM 684-1 - FSN Utah HD (k) MPEG4(Ka) 720p Game-Only
RSN 686 - FSN Arizona HD (k,v) MPEG4(Ka) 720p Game-Only
RSN 687 - FSN Northwest HD (k,v) MPEG4(Ka) 720p Game-Only
PTM 688-1 - FSN Northwest Plus HD - Alternate (?) MPEG4(Ka) 720p Game-Only
RSN 692 - FSN West HD (f) MPEG4(Ka) 720p
RSN 694 - FSN Prime Ticket HD (f) MPEG4(Ka) 720p
RSN 696 - Comcast SportsNet Bay Area HD (k,ww) MPEG4(Ka)
PTM 697-1 - Comcast SportsNet Bay Area HD - Alternate (m) MPEG4(Ka) Game-Only
RSN 698 - Comcast SportsNet California HD (k,ww) MPEG4(Ka)
PTM 699-1 - RSN HD - Alternate (nn) MPEG4(Ka) 720p Game-Only
PTM 728/729/730-1 - CBS College Basketball HD (qq) MPEG4(Ka) 720p Game-Only
PTM 702-1 thru 718-1 (17) NFL Sunday Ticket HD MPEG4(Ka)
PTM 720-1 thru 749-1 (30) MLB Extra Innings HD (MPEG4(Ka) part-time, mostly re-map of D10/D11 RSN's)
PTM 751-1 thru 768-1 (18) NBA League Pass HD (MPEG4(Ka) part-time, mostly re-map of D10/D11 RSN's)
PTM 770-1 thru 785-1 (16) NHL Center Ice HD (MPEG4(Ka) part-time, mostly re-map of D10/D11 RSN's)
PTM 795 thru 798 (4) NASCAR HD (MPEG4(Ka), part-time)
OLD 9178 - HD NCC TEST (pp) MPEG4(Ka) ? (Replaced Cinema 127, then moved to Cinema 159)
OLD 9215 - TEST 1080p HD (dd,mm) MPEG4(Ka) 1080p (Replaced Old PPV HD 133 - Replaced by Cinema 125)

DirecTV National HD Channel Change Info

Code|#|Satellite|Date|Channel Change
nnn|1|D12 MPEG4(Ka)|04/19/2012 Thu|E!HD
mmm|1|D11 MPEG4(Ka)|03/07/2012 Wed|TruTVHD
lll|1|D12 MPEG4(Ka)|09/09/2011 Fri|AMCHD
kkk|5|D12 MPEG4(Ka)|07/27/2011 Wed|ESPN3D, HB2wHD, 5MAXHD, WMAXHD, @MAXHD
||||5 CINEHD replaced (128,134,135,138,139)
jjj|5|D11 & D12 MPEG4(Ka)|05/25/2011 Wed|HBOCHD, HBOLHD, MMAXHD, AMAXHD, TMAXHD
iii1|D12 MPEG4(Ka)|05/04/2011 Wed|SHRTHD replaced CINEHD 136
hhh|2|D12 MPEG4(Ka)|03/30/2011 Wed|HBSeHD, HBOFeH
ggg|1|D12 MPEG4(Ka)|02/13/2011 Sun|3net
fff|-2|D10 MPEG4(Ka)|10/29/2010 Fri|2 CINEHD Removed
eee|1|D12 MPEG4(Ka)|10/18/2010 Mon|SONYHD
ddd|4|D11 & D12 MPEG4(Ka)|10/07/2010 Thu|4 CINEHD
ccc|1|D7S (119°) MPEG4(Ku)|09/29/2010 Wed|MEGAHD
bbb|1|D12 MPEG4(Ka)|08/11/2010 Wed|FSCHD
aaa|1|D12 MPEG4(Ka)|08/04/2010 Wed|GOLHD
zz|2|D12 MPEG4(Ka)|08/02/2010 Mon|2 CINEHD
yy|2|D12 MPEG4(Ka)|07/01/2010 Thu|CINE3D, n3D
xx|7|D12 MPEG4(Ka)|06/28/2010 Mon|7 CINEHD
ww|14|D12 MPEG4(Ka)|06/23/2010 Wed|LIFEHD, HALLHD, HB2eHD, HBOZHD, SBLKHD,
||||SCINHD, ENCeHD, SHBYHD, SHNXHD, ShWmHD,
||||TMCXHD, FSFLHD, CSNBHD, CSCAHD
vv|1|D10 MPEG4(Ka)|05/20/2010 Thu|ESPN3D part-time
uu|5|D12 MPEG4(Ka)|05/19/2010 Wed|TRAVHD, WGNHD, MNBCHD, HLMKHD, ESPUHD
tt|2|D11 & D7S (119°) MPEG4(Ka/u)|04/28/2010 Wed|UNIEHD replaced CINEHD 130, TFTWHD
ss|2|D1x(PT) MPEG4(Ka)|04/14/2010 Wed|YESA and RSNA
|6|110° MPEG2(Ku)|04/01/2010 Thu|MPEG2 Legacy removed from 110°
rr|1|D10 MPEG4(Ka)|03/15/2010 Mon|Versus HD replaced CINEHD 159
qq|2|D1x(PT) MPEG4(Ka)|12/30/2009 Wed|728/729/730 added
pp|1|D11 MPEG4(Ka)|12/18/2009 Fri|127 re-added, 9178 moved to 159 slot
|||11/17/2009 Tue|9178 replaced CINEHD 127
oo|1|D1x(PT) MPEG4(Ka)|11/12/2009 Thu|FSSaHD
nn|1|D1x(PT) MPEG4(Ka)|10/28/2009 Wed|RSNa
mm|3|D11 MPEG4(Ka)|10/12/2009 Mon|125 1080p replaced 9215, 2 CINEHD
ll|3|D1x(PT) MPEG4(Ka)|10/02/2009 Fri|ALTHD replaced CINEHD, 2 RSNa
kk|3|D1x(PT) MPEG4(Ka)|09/03/2009 Thu|3 BTNaHD
jj|1|D10 MPEG4(Ka)|09/01/2009 Tue|CINEHD replaced Versus HD
ii|1|D11 MPEG4(Ka)|06/26/2009 Fri|BETHD replaced PPVHD
hh|1|D1x(PT) MPEG4(Ka)|04/17/2009 Fri|RSNa
gg|2|D1x(PT) MPEG4(Ka)|04/10/2009 Fri|MLBaHD, NSN+HD
ff|1|D1x(PT) MPEG4(Ka)|04/03/2009 Fri|YBCHD
ee|2|D11 MPEG4(Ka)|04/01/2009 Wed|MASNHD, STOHD replaced PPVHD
dd|1|D11 MPEG4(Ka)|02/26/2009 Thu|1080p replaced PPVHD
cc|1|D11 MPEG4(Ka)|01/21/2009 Wed|COMHD replaced PPVHD
bb|1|D11 MPEG4(Ka)|01/01/2009 Thu|MLBNHD replaced PPVHD
aa|1|D11 MPEG4(Ka)|12/03/2008 Wed|GOLFHD
z|1|D11 MPEG4(Ka)|10/29/2008 Wed|CSNEHD replaced PPVHD
y|1|D11 MPEG4(Ka)|10/22/2008 Wed|CIHD replaced PPVHD
x|2|D11 MPEG4(Ka)|10/17/2008 Fri|HDNaHD, FNCHD replaced PPVHD
w|3|D11 MPEG4(Ka)|09/05/2008 Fri|3 PPVHD
v|31|D11 MPEG4(Ka)|08/14/2008 Thu|PLGNHD, ABCFHD, SHO3HD, EXTRHD, ||||FSSHD
||||SSHD, SUNHD, FSNPHD, FSNOHD, FSMWHD
||||FSRMHD, FSAZHD, FSNWHD, 18 PPVHD
u|17|D11 MPEG4(Ka)|07/31/2008 Thu|8 DNS, 9 Legacy
t|2|D1x(PT) MPEG4(Ka)|04/16/2008 Wed|CSNCHD, MASNaHD
s|1|D1x(PT) MPEG4(Ka)|04/04/2008 Fri|STOHD
r|3|D10 MPEG4(Ka)|04/02/2008 Wed|ESNHD, DISeHD, DXDHD
q|1|D1x(PT) MPEG4(Ka)|03/31/2008 Mon|MASNHD
p|1|D10 MPEG4(Ka)|01/23/2008 Wed|T101HD
o|2|D10 MPEG4(Ka)|12/28/2007 Fri|TNNSHD, CBSCHD
n|2|D10 MPEG4(Ka)|12/20/2007 Thu
m|7|D10 MPEG4(Ka)|12/05/2007 Wed
l|1|D10 MPEG4(Ka)|11/28/2007 Wed
k|30|D10 MPEG4(Ka)|11/14/2007 Wed
j|1|D10 MPEG4(Ka)|10/31/2007 Wed
i|1|D10 MPEG4(Ka)|10/29/2007 Mon
h|2|D10 MPEG4(Ka)|10/26/2007 Fri
g|2|D10 MPEG4(Ka)|10/17/2007 Wed
f|18|D10 MPEG4(Ka)|10/15/2007 Mon
e|4|D10 MPEG4(Ka)|10/10/2007 Wed
d|1|D10 MPEG4(Ka)|10/04/2007 Thu
c|11|D10 MPEG4(Ka)|10/03/2007 Wed
b|21|D10 MPEG4(Ka)|09/26/2007 Wed
a|10|110°/119° MPEG2(Ku)|prior to 09/26/2007

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Updated 08/10/2011 - Recent changes in RED

DirecTV-10 (D10) CONUS Transponder Map - 103°, H2x/HR2x is 103(cb)

D10 Transponder #1|D10 Transponder #2|D10 Transponder #3
101,239,334,500/1050 Audience Network HD|132/1040 Cinema HD 1080p|212/1040 NFL Network HD
133/1030 Cinema HD 1080p|327/1020 CMT HD|290/1010 Disney Channel HD
266/1010 Biography Channel HD|526/1050 Starz Comedy HD|515/1050 Cinemax East HD
546/1040 Showtime West HD|610/1010 Big Ten Network HD|567/1030 Palladia HD
613/1020 CBS College Sports HD|628/1030 RSN NESN HD|642/1020 RSN CSN Mid-Atl. HD
9510/1090 Test LNB|9511/1090 Test LNB
|
D10 Transponder #4|D10 Transponder #5|D10 Transponder #6
276/1050 National Geographic HD|216/1020 NBA TV HD|284/1040 Sci-Channel HD
359/1020 Fox Business Channel HD|516/1010 Cinemax West HD|296/1020 Cartoon Network East HD
565/1010 Smithsonian HD|529/1050 Starz Edge HD|362/1010 The Weather Channel HD
603/1040 Versus HD|676/1040 RSN FSN Southwest HD|692/1030 RSN FSN West HD
618/1030 Fuel TV HD|694/1030 RSN FSN Prime Ticket HD
|
D10 Transponder #7|D10 Transponder #8|D10 Transponder #9
137/1040 Cinema HD 1080p|207/1020 ESPNEWS HD|504/1040 HBO West HD
215/1020 NHL Network HD|554/1050 The Movie Channel East HD|527/1050 Starz East HD
299/1030 Nickelodeon East HD|631/1010 RSN YES HD|547/1030 Showtime Too HD
528/1010 Starz West HD|639/1030 RSN SportsNet NY (SNY) HD|635/1010 RSN MSG Plus HD
607/1050 Speed Channel HD|683/1040 RSN Rocky Mountain HD|663/1020 RSN FSN Detroit HD
|
D10 Transponder #10|D10 Transponder #11|D10 Transponder #12
277/1050 Travel Channel HD|231/1040 Food Network HD|229/1040 HGTV HD
282/1020 Animal Planet HD|237/1020 Bravo HD|241/1010 Spike TV HD
525/1030 Starz Kids & Family HD|245/1050 TNT HD|248/1030 FX HD
562/1010 MGM HD|278/1010 Discovery Channel HD|249/1020 Comedy Central HD
665/1040 RSN Comcast Chicago HD|355/1030 CNBC HD|280/1050 TLC HD
|
D10 Transponder #13|D10 Transponder #14
242/1030 USA Network HD|146/1010 Cinema HD
244/1050 Syfy Channel HD|154/1050 Cinema HD
269/1010 The History Channel HD|156/1030 Cinema HD
331/1020 MTV HD|158/1040 Cinema HD
335/1040 VH1 HD

DirecTV-11 (D11) CONUS Transponder Map - 99°, H2x/HR2x is 99(c)

D11 Transponder #1|D11 Transponder #2|D11 Transponder #3
393/1030 DNS NBC West HD|155/1040 Cinema HD|397/1030 DNS ABC West HD
396/1040 DNS ABC East HD|160/1010 Cinema HD|549/1040 - Showtime Extreme HD
9506/1090 Test LNB|161/1020 Cinema HD|649/1050 RSN SportsSouth HD
|640/1030 RSN MASN HD|681/1010 RSN Altitude HD
|9507/1090 Test LNB|686/1020 RSN Arizona HD
|
|
D11 Transponder #4|D11 Transponder #5|D11 Transponder #6
148/1020 Cinema HD|144/1050 Cinema HD 1080p|142/1010 Cinema HD 1080p
149/1010 Cinema HD|213/1010 MLB Network HD|143/1020 Cinema HD 1080p
162/1040 Cinema HD|281/1030 HD Theater|402/1010 Univision HD
634/1050 RSN MSG HD|392/1020 DNS NBC East HD|662/1040 RSN ST Ohio HD
|566/1040 Crime & Invest HD|
|
D11 Transponder #7|D11 Transponder #8|D11 Transponder #9
126/1040 Cinema HD 1080p|398/1050 DNS FOX East HD|127/1050 Cinema HD 1080p
218/1010 Golf HD|517/1040 MoreMax HD|145/1020 Cinema HD 1080p
306/1030 HDNet|545/1020 Showtime East HD|390/1030 DNS CBS East HD
391/1050 DNS CBS West HD|671/1030 RSN Midwest HD|646/1040 RSN South HD
501/1020 HBO East HD|687/1010 RSN Northwest HD|668/1010 RSN North HD
|
D11 Transponder #10|D11 Transponder #11|D11 Transponder #12
147/1030 Cinema HD|153/1040 Cinema HD|202/1040 CNN HD
150/1040 Cinema HD|157/1010 Cinema HD|247/1030 TBS HD
151/1010 Cinema HD|217/1030 Tennis Channel HD|329/1050 BET HD
152/1020 Cinema HD|659/1020 RSN Pittsburgh HD|356/1020 MSNBC HD
||360/1010 Fox News Channel HD
|
D11 Transponder #13|D11 Transponder #14
206/1010 ESPN HD|292/1040 Disney Extreme HD
209/1050 ESPN2 HD|399/1010 DNS FOX West HD
252/1040 Lifetime HD|561/1030 HDNet Movies
265/1020 A&E HD|630/1020 RSN CSN New England HD
311/1030 ABC Family HD|653/1050 RSN Sunshine Sports HD


DirecTV-12 (D12) CONUS Transponder Map - 103°, H2x/HR2x is 103(ca)

D12 Transponder #9|D12 Transponder #10|D12 Transponder #11
Open|Open|140/1020 Cinema HD 1080p
||141/1030 Cinema HD 1080p
||159/1010 Cinema HD
|
D12 Transponder #12|D12 Transponder #13|D12 Transponder #14
289/1060 NASA SD|106/1020 ESPN 3D|130/1020 Cinema HD 1080p
312/1020 Hallmark HD|505/1050 HBO2 West HD|286/1010 Planet Green HD
506/1030 HBO Comedy HD|208/1030 ESPNU HD|363/1060 GEB SD
560/1010 Hallmark Movie HD|365/1060 God TV SD|507/1050 HBO Family East HD
563/1040 Sony HD|502/1040 HBO2 East HD|531/1030 Starz Cinema HD
564/1050 Universal HD|511/1010 HBO Latino HD|568/1020 Shorts HD
|
D12 Transponder #15|D12 Transponder #16|D12 Transponder #17
131/1030 Cinema HD 1080p|129/1010 Cinema HD 1080p|104/1050 Cinema 3D
307/1020 WGN HD|348/1060 Free Speech SD|107/1020 3net 3D
521/1050 Cinemax WMax HD|509/1040 HBO Zone HD|503/1030 HBO Signature East HD
548/1010 Showtime Showcase HD|519/1050 Action Max HD|551/1040 Showtime Next HD
619/1040 Fox Soccer HD|520/1030 Cinemax 5Max HD|654/1010 RSN FSN Florida HD
|522/1020 Thriller Max HD|
|
D12 Transponder #18|D12 Transponder #19|D12 Transponder #20
103/1010 n3D 3D|426&620/1020 GolTV HD|9768/1010 TEST HD
523/1020 Cinemax @Max HD|530/1030 Starz in Black HD|9769/1020 TEST HD
552/1030 Showtime Women HD|535/1040 Encore East HD|9770/1030 TEST HD
556/1040 TMC XTra HD|550/1010 Showtime Beyond HD|9771/1040 TEST HD
696/1050 RSN CSN Bay Area HD|698/1050 RSN CSN California HD|9772/1050 TEST HD
|
D12 Transponder #21|D12 Transponder #22|D12 Transponder #23
"Push" Content? (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?p=2745814#post2745814)|"Push" Content? (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?p=2745814#post2745814)|"Push" Content? (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?p=2745814#post2745814)
|
D12 Transponder #24
"Push" Content? (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?p=2745814#post2745814)


Note: Maps do not include temporary HD channels for one-time events (Tennis, Golf, ...).

The peak part-time HD need for Cinema HD was 23 on Sunday 9/27/2009 at 3pm ET. Also need 1 extra for Mix HD

[Stuart Sweet]

Folks, this is not a discussion thread.

[Sixto]

Just noticed a new thread was created. Will update post#1 with link to old thread for historical day-by-day data.

Lot's of transponder activity today. Still trying to understand.

SIGNIFICANT Changes: NEW (added/moved) from 2010-02-19 compared to 2010-02-11:
NONE

SIGNIFICANT Changes: OLD (removed) from 2010-02-11 compared to 2010-02-19:
NONE

MINOR Changes: NEW (added/moved) from 2010-02-19 compared to 2010-02-11:
9723 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1010
9724 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1020
9725 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1030
9726 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1040
9727 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1050
9728 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1010
9729 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1020
9730 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1030
9731 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1040
9732 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1050
9733 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1010
9734 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1020
9735 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1030
9736 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1040
9737 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1050
9738 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1010
9739 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1020
9740 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1030
9741 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1040
9742 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1050
9743 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1010
9744 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1020
9745 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1030
9746 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1040
9747 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1050
9748 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1010
9749 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1020
9750 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1030
9751 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1040
9752 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1050 <------ 9752 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1010
9754 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1020 <------ 9754 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1010
9755 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1030 <------ 9755 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1010
9756 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1040 <------ 9756 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1010
9757 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1050 <------ 9757 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1010
9759 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1020 <------ 9759 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1010
9760 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1030 <------ 9760 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1010
9761 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1040 <------ 9761 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1010
9762 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1050 <------ 9762 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1010
9764 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1020 <------ 9764 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1010
9765 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1030 <------ 9765 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1010
9766 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1040
9767 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1050
9768 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1010
9769 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1020
9770 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1030
9771 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1040
9772 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1050
9773 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1010
9774 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1020
9775 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1030
9776 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1040
9777 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1050
9778 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1010
9779 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1020
9780 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1030
9781 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1040
9782 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1050
9783 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1010
9785 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1020
9786 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1030
9787 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1040
9788 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1050
9789 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1010
9790 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1020
9791 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1030
9792 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1040
9793 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1050

MINOR Changes: OLD (removed) from 2010-02-11 compared to 2010-02-19:
NONE

Notes: 'MINOR Changes' is movement for part-time channels
1st column is channel number, 2nd column is channel name
3rd column is FT=Full-Time, PT=Part-time, RM=Remapped from Another Channel
4th column is Satellite, 5th column is transponder number
6th column is 'slot' number, 10xx: main, 1700: hold, 0000: unassigned

[RAD]

Nice to see a bunch of activity starting up, too bad we still have a couple months to wait.

[Hutchinshouse]

Nice to see a bunch of activity starting up, too bad we still have a couple months to wait.

Maybe not. Satelliteracer did state "timing has improved a bit".:D

Link: http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?p=2362320#post2362320

[LameLefty]

J
Lot's of transponder activity today. Still trying to understand.


Can I ask a question? So those test channels are really just placeholders in the data stream, right, not actual bitstreams coming from the satellite? In this case, placeholders assigned to D10 according to the data, even if no signal is yet broadcasting for any of them. At least, that's what I take from the lack of a transponder assignment for them.

Is that correct?

[jefbal99]

I count 70 new slots there

[Sixto]

Can I ask a question? So those test channels are really just placeholders in the data stream, right, not actual bitstreams coming from the satellite? In this case, placeholders assigned to D10 according to the data, even if no signal is yet broadcasting for any of them. At least, that's what I take from the lack of a transponder assignment for them.

Is that correct?Good question, and I'm not 100% certain.

Usually regular channels or test channels get assigned, and transmit.

These are weird, in that they are not assigned in the usual fashion.

I'd guess that they're just placeholder guide data, but they may actually be in use for something that we can't see.

It's a good sign of something coming. The metadata for each channel all contain generic info (wcbs, wnbc, xm...).

[DodgerKing]

Good question, and I'm not 100% certain.

Usually regular channels or test channels get assigned, and transmit.

These are weird, in that they are not assigned in the usual fashion.

I'd guess that they're just placeholder guide data, but they may actually be in use for something that we can't see.

It's a good sign of something coming. The metadata for each channel all contain generic info (wcbs, wnbc, xm...).

MLBEI?

[Sixto]

MLBEI?No.

We've been tracking this stuff for a couple of years. This is different.

[Coca Cola Kid]

Good question, and I'm not 100% certain.

Usually regular channels or test channels get assigned, and transmit.

These are weird, in that they are not assigned in the usual fashion.

I'd guess that they're just placeholder guide data, but they may actually be in use for something that we can't see.

It's a good sign of something coming. The metadata for each channel all contain generic info (wcbs, wnbc, xm...).

placeholders for what? i thought D10 was full, isnt that why D12 exists?

[iceturkee]

hmm, seems simple......70 test slots equals 70 new national hd channels? dtv 12 is in testing right now, so........................

[wmb]

hmm, seems simple......70 test slots equals 70 new national hd channels? dtv 12 is in testing right now, so........................

In some way this seems to make some sense... D10 and D12 are going to both be at 103. I guess the question I have is why are these showing up as D10, unless its something in the way the data are processed? What are the initial data and how are they parsed? Is a "103" location code translated to show up as coming from D10?

Note to moderators: This thread is slowly becoming a discussion thread. If that is not what its supposed to be, it should be locked and Sixto given a key. You can move the discussion to an approprate thread.

[doctor j]

Network 15
*TEST 9723 10 1010 1011 tv:1930.ch
*TEST 9724 10 1020 1021 tv:mnt.ch
*TEST 9725 10 1030 1031 tv:cw.ch
*TEST 9726 10 1040 1041 tv:xmrawxl.ch
*TEST 9727 10 1050 1051 tv:xmbeyjz.ch
*TEST 9728 11 1010 1011 tv:2621.ch
*TEST 9729 11 1020 1021 tv:xmfrnkp.ch
*TEST 9730 11 1030 1031 tv:xmfntun.ch
*TEST 9731 11 1040 1041 tv:xmsyst.ch
*TEST 9732 11 1050 1051 tv:kfdmdt2.ch
*TEST 9733 12 1010 1011 tv:2041.ch
*TEST 9734 12 1020 1021 tv:ind.ch
*TEST 9735 12 1030 1031 tv:wgbhdt.ch
*TEST 9736 12 1040 1041 tv:abchd.ch
*TEST 9737 12 1050 1051 tv:wzmy.ch
*TEST 9738 13 1010 1011 tv:2993.ch
*TEST 9739 13 1020 1021 tv:witvdt.ch
*TEST 9740 13 1030 1031 tv:kmos.ch
*TEST 9741 13 1040 1041 tv:komuhd.ch
*TEST 9742 13 1050 1051 tv:cbshd.ch
*TEST 9743 14 1010 1011 tv:test9756.ch
*TEST 9744 14 1020 1021 tv:abchd.ch
*TEST 9745 14 1030 1031 tv:cw.ch
*TEST 9746 14 1040 1041 tv:kmosdt2.ch
*TEST 9747 14 1050 1051 tv:cbshd.ch
*TEST 9748 15 1010 1011 tv:kynedt.ch
*TEST 9749 15 1020 1021 tv:pbshd.ch
*TEST 9750 15 1030 1031 tv:pbshd.ch
*TEST 9751 15 1040 1041 tv:nbchd.ch
*TEST 9752 15 1050 1051 tv:abchd.ch
*TEST 9753 16 1010 1011 tv:2347.ch
*TEST 9754 16 1020 1021 tv:cwhd.ch
*TEST 9755 16 1030 1031 tv:mnthd.ch
*TEST 9756 16 1040 1041 tv:pbshd.ch
*TEST 9757 16 1050 1051 tv:3498.ch
*TEST 9758 17 1010 1011 tv:wngh.ch
*TEST 9759 17 1020 1021 tv:note.ch
*TEST 9760 17 1030 1031 tv:nbchd.ch
*TEST 9761 17 1040 1041 tv:foxhd.ch
*TEST 9762 17 1050 1051 tv:pbshd.ch
*TEST 9763 18 1010 1011 tv:test9763.ch
*TEST 9764 18 1020 1021 tv:nbchd.ch
*TEST 9765 18 1030 1031 tv:cwhd.ch
*TEST 9766 18 1040 1041 tv:abchd.ch
*TEST 9767 18 1050 1051 tv:pbshd.ch
*TEST 9768 19 1010 1011 tv:3641.ch
*TEST 9769 19 1020 1021 tv:cbshd.ch
*TEST 9770 19 1030 1031 tv:abchd.ch
*TEST 9771 19 1040 1041 tv:cbshd.ch
*TEST 9772 19 1050 1051 tv:pbshd.ch
*TEST 9773 20 1010 1011 tv:2443.ch
*TEST 9774 20 1020 1021 tv:nbchd.ch
*TEST 9775 20 1030 1031 tv:foxhd.ch
*TEST 9776 20 1040 1041 tv:cbshd.ch
*TEST 9777 20 1050 1051 tv:pbshd.ch
*TEST 9778 21 1010 1011
*TEST 9779 21 1020 1021 tv:cw.ch
*TEST 9780 21 1030 1031 tv:foxhd.ch
*TEST 9781 21 1040 1041 tv:note3606.ch
*TEST 9782 21 1050 1051 tv:note3607.ch
*TEST 9783 22 1010 1011 tv:3643.ch
*TEST 9785 22 1020 1021 tv:note3608.ch
*TEST 9786 22 1030 1031 tv:note3609.ch
*TEST 9787 22 1040 1041 tv:kcen.ch
*TEST 9788 22 1050 1051 tv:note3612.ch
*TEST 9789 23 1010 1011 tv:fso9370.ch
*TEST 9790 23 1020 1021 tv:note3613.ch
*TEST 9791 23 1030 1031 tv:test9791.ch
*TEST 9792 23 1040 1041 tv:foxhd.ch
*TEST 9793 23 1050 1051 tv:pbshd.ch

I reviewed TPN 31 data this AM.
I was hoping to see a new .bin file for D-12 data and still think it may happen that way but these 70 channels certainly seem to be the first sign of D-12 activity. 14 TPNs 5 slots each : agree it makes sense.
Sixto's daily updates will certainly tell more as time goes by.

Doctor j

[Sixto]

Note to moderators: This thread is slowly becoming a discussion thread. If that is not what its supposed to be, it should be locked and Sixto given a key. You can move the discussion to an appropriate thread.It's fine to discuss transponder stuff. It appears that the reason the old thread was closed (and new thread created) was because it went off-topic for several days with the lull in activity, and I was distracted by the HD tabulating and didn't reign people in quick enough.

The old thread has just about every transponder change for the past 3 years. I need to add comments to the top of this new thread to point to the old thread.

In the meantime, I think it's fine to discuss the D10/D11/D12 transponder stuff right here like we always have.

[Sixto]

In some way this seems to make some sense... D10 and D12 are going to both be at 103. I guess the question I have is why are these showing up as D10, unless its something in the way the data are processed? What are the initial data and how are they parsed? Is a "103" location code translated to show up as coming from D10?My initial thought has been that this is all related to prep work for D12, and they're just using the D10 guide stream in the interim.

But this can also be some behind the scenes change for D10, that doesn't make sense to us yet.

I do expect a totally different stream for D12, and will continue to check.

[mitchelljd]

i read on tvpredictions.com that most of the new channels will be used for PPV. to add a great many channels or movies.

sorry, i want more HBO, CINEMAX, Showtime and .... channels like AMC.

Directv needs to pick to add lots of national channels, not so many ppv's

[iceturkee]

i read on tvpredictions.com that most of the new channels will be used for PPV. to add a great many channels or movies.

sorry, i want more HBO, CINEMAX, Showtime and .... channels like AMC.

Directv needs to pick to add lots of national channels, not so many ppv's


you must be relatively new because no one believes swanni at tvpredictions. he..a. steals most of his material and b. his opinions are untrue.

better to listen to satelliliteracer than swanni.

[uncrules]

i read on tvpredictions.com that most of the new channels will be used for PPV. to add a great many channels or movies.

sorry, i want more HBO, CINEMAX, Showtime and .... channels like AMC.

Directv needs to pick to add lots of national channels, not so many ppv's

Swanni's a moron because he seems to think that 400 ppv channels are being put on D12. The idiot doesn't seems to realize that's it's 400 TITLES and not channels. Beside even if D12 was used just for just PPV channels that wouldn't even be enough for 100 PPV channels much less 400. He hates Directv so much he is spreading as much FUD as he can.

[Sixto]

Let's be careful with the discussion so this thread doesn't get closed again.

HD anticipation goes in the anticipation thread (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=170082).

[uncrules]

Let's be careful with the discussion so this thread doesn't get closed again.

HD anticipation goes in the anticipation thread (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=170082).

Sorry. Swanni's FUD spreading ways just annoy the crap out of me.

[dcowboy7]

The chart says:
244/1010 - SyFy Channel HD

It should read Syfy.

edit: now fixed....thx.

[cebbigh]

My initial thought has been that this is all related to prep work for D12, and they're just using the D10 guide stream in the interim.

But this can also be some behind the scenes change for D10, that doesn't make sense to us yet.

I do expect a totally different stream for D12, and will continue to check.

If it's not D12 what could it be? Dish was effectively able to squeeze more per transponder with 8psk. Is it possible that Directv is experimenting with something that would allow them to do the same?

[Sixto]

If it's not D12 what could it be? Dish was effectively able to squeeze more per transponder with 8psk. Is it possible that Directv is experimenting with something that would allow them to do the same?That was the thought, or some other change we're not yet aware of.

[cebbigh]

That was the thought, or some other change we're not yet aware of.

To me this development is the most interesting thing going on. Whatever it turns out to be is all to the good. Sure the simple explanation that it is related to D12 is most probable. But I've got my fingers crossed that the mystery is really something they are doing with D10 that will amaze everybody. Bandwidth is what it all boils down to, at some point Directv is going to have to come up with a technological breakthrough to get more out of what they have. Imagine if they find a way to crack the rain fade problem with KA. That would be a real game changer.

Anticipating what's in the box is usually better than finding out what's inside. :)

[Sixto]

To me this development is the most interesting thing going on. Whatever it turns out to be is all to the good. Sure the simple explanation that it is related to D12 is most probable. But I've got my fingers crossed that the mystery is really something they are doing with D10 that will amaze everybody. Bandwidth is what it all boils down to, at some point Directv is going to have to come up with a technological breakthrough to get more out of what they have. Imagine if they find a way to crack the rain fade problem with KA. That would be a real game changer.

Anticipating what's in the box is usually better than finding out what's inside. :)Agree 100%. :)

[woj027]

Any more news on all the test data? Is there still thought it is just the data used to test D12?

[Sixto]

Weekly update:SIGNIFICANT Changes: NEW (added/moved) from 2010-02-26 compared to 2010-02-19:
NONE

SIGNIFICANT Changes: OLD (removed) from 2010-02-19 compared to 2010-02-26:
NONE

MINOR Changes: NEW (added/moved) from 2010-02-26 compared to 2010-02-19:
NONE

MINOR Changes: OLD (removed) from 2010-02-19 compared to 2010-02-26:
NONE

Notes: 'MINOR Changes' is movement for part-time channels
1st column is channel number, 2nd column is channel name
3rd column is FT=Full-Time, PT=Part-time, RM=Remapped from Another Channel
4th column is Satellite, 5th column is transponder number
6th column is 'slot' number, 10xx: main, 1700: hold, 0000: unassigned

[Sixto]

Any more news on all the test data? Is there still thought it is just the data used to test D12?There was a change to the *TEST channel data in Doctor J's info from 2/24 (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=173192).

All of the *TEST channels now have a # associated with them. The actual data is in the format ... for 9789: "tv:4260.ch".

There's 70, D10 has 70, D12 should have 80.Name Channel Transponder Satellite Description
*TEST 9723 10 D10 @103W 1930
*TEST 9724 10 D10 @103W 2037
*TEST 9725 10 D10 @103W 2042
*TEST 9726 10 D10 @103W 2242
*TEST 9727 10 D10 @103W 2247
*TEST 9728 11 D10 @103W 2621
*TEST 9729 11 D10 @103W 2248
*TEST 9730 11 D10 @103W 2250
*TEST 9731 11 D10 @103W 2254
*TEST 9732 11 D10 @103W 2471
*TEST 9733 12 D10 @103W 2041
*TEST 9734 12 D10 @103W 3247
*TEST 9735 12 D10 @103W 3287
*TEST 9736 12 D10 @103W 3322
*TEST 9737 12 D10 @103W 3324
*TEST 9738 13 D10 @103W 2993
*TEST 9739 13 D10 @103W 3336
*TEST 9740 13 D10 @103W 3340
*TEST 9741 13 D10 @103W 3341
*TEST 9742 13 D10 @103W 3342
*TEST 9743 14 D10 @103W 2048
*TEST 9744 14 D10 @103W 3343
*TEST 9745 14 D10 @103W 3346
*TEST 9746 14 D10 @103W 3354
*TEST 9747 14 D10 @103W 3478
*TEST 9748 15 D10 @103W 3166
*TEST 9749 15 D10 @103W 3479
*TEST 9750 15 D10 @103W 3480
*TEST 9751 15 D10 @103W 3481
*TEST 9752 15 D10 @103W 3482
*TEST 9753 16 D10 @103W 2347
*TEST 9754 16 D10 @103W 3483
*TEST 9755 16 D10 @103W 3484
*TEST 9756 16 D10 @103W 3485
*TEST 9757 16 D10 @103W 3498
*TEST 9758 17 D10 @103W 3429
*TEST 9759 17 D10 @103W 3499
*TEST 9760 17 D10 @103W 3588
*TEST 9761 17 D10 @103W 3524
*TEST 9762 17 D10 @103W 3525
*TEST 9763 18 D10 @103W 2355
*TEST 9764 18 D10 @103W 3526
*TEST 9765 18 D10 @103W 3527
*TEST 9766 18 D10 @103W 3528
*TEST 9767 18 D10 @103W 3529
*TEST 9768 19 D10 @103W 3641
*TEST 9769 19 D10 @103W 3530
*TEST 9770 19 D10 @103W 3577
*TEST 9771 19 D10 @103W 3578
*TEST 9772 19 D10 @103W 3579
*TEST 9773 20 D10 @103W 2443
*TEST 9774 20 D10 @103W 3580
*TEST 9775 20 D10 @103W 3581
*TEST 9776 20 D10 @103W 3590
*TEST 9777 20 D10 @103W 3591
*TEST 9778 21 D10 @103W 3642
*TEST 9779 21 D10 @103W 3592
*TEST 9780 21 D10 @103W 3593
*TEST 9781 21 D10 @103W 3606
*TEST 9782 21 D10 @103W 3607
*TEST 9783 22 D10 @103W 3643
*TEST 9785 22 D10 @103W 3608
*TEST 9786 22 D10 @103W 3609
*TEST 9787 22 D10 @103W 3681
*TEST 9788 22 D10 @103W 3612
*TEST 9789 23 D10 @103W 4260
*TEST 9790 23 D10 @103W 3613
*TEST 9791 23 D10 @103W 3616
*TEST 9792 23 D10 @103W 3617
*TEST 9793 23 D10 @103W 3618

[Crow159]

There was a change to the *TEST channel data in Doctor J's info from 2/24 (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=173192).

All of the *TEST channels now have a # associated with them. The actual data is in the format ... for 9789: "tv:4260.ch".

There's 70, D10 has 70, D12 should have 80

So what do you think that means? Are these Test channels just placeholders for when D12 comes online or is Directv looking at squeezing more channels on the existing sats? Or could this be the precursor for the "Netflix"-like service thats been talked about with these "channels" that would push content onto the receivers?

[Sixto]

So what do you think that means? Are these Test channels just placeholders for when D12 comes online or is Directv looking at squeezing more channels on the existing sats? Or could this be the precursor for the "Netflix"-like service thats been talked about with these "channels" that would push content onto the receivers?Possibly any of the above, but seems more likely related to D12.

[Crow159]

Possibly any of the above, but seems more likely related to D12.

Thanks, I was just wondering why Directv would put up placeholders for D12 on the D10 sat. Have they done this in the past when D11 was up and testing?

[Sixto]

Thanks, I was just wondering why Directv would put up placeholders for D12 on the D10 sat. Have they done this in the past when D11 was up and testing?No, but D10 and D12 do share an orbital position. Just not sure yet.

[LameLefty]

My gut feeling is that these "channels" are just placeholders in the data and do not represent real bitstreams (yet). As Sixto notes, D10 shares the 103º slot where D12 will be parked operationally, but so too does Spaceway 1 (which is conspicuously empty these days). Once the data placeholders are updated to reference something besides D10 (such as D12 or SW1), we'll have a better idea of what they really represent in terms of content.

Interesting times.

[Sixto]

Lefty makes a good point, that I should keep re-enforcing. This is just guide data, not real channel data. There's no indication yet of any content.

[ptuck874]

Lefty makes a good point, that I should keep re-enforcing. This is just guide data, not real channel data. There's no indication yet of any content.
Except the indication that they will be adding 70 + hd channels, so now people can stop worrying if D12 will add anything or not :)

[Sixto]

Except the indication that they will be adding 70 + hd channels, so now people can stop worrying if D12 will add anything or not :)Not sure yet. Is this just the re-mapping of D10 for some reason, or the mapping of the first 70 on D12. Probably D12.

It is interesting that the data/description changed within the last few days.

[Crow159]

Except the indication that they will be adding 70 + hd channels, so now people can stop worrying if D12 will add anything or not :)

Just playing Devil's advocate, those could be 70 PPV.:lol:

What has people worried is the uncertainty of what will be added. While I hope that 90% of the people will be happy, I will admit that I am not getting my hopes up at this point like I did with D11. While I agree that D11 added a lot to those without local channels, I, myself, did not gain a lot from all that available bandwidth. My anticipation of D12 is tempered in so much that I'll believe the "200 channel hype" when I see it on my receiver.

[woj027]

Thanks for all the info, Only time will tell what exactly is going on with all the information you guys are finding. Its fun trying to figure out what all the data means though.

I'll save my anticipation for another thread. But 70 new HD channels (locals in there too) would be one heck of a Festivus!

[doctor j]

There was a change to the *TEST channel data in Doctor J's info from 2/24 (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=173192).

All of the *TEST channels now have a # associated with them. The actual data is in the format ... for 9789: "tv:4260.ch".

There's 70, D10 has 70, D12 should have 80

The original was 2/20 and because of null data from TPN 5, a reload was done on 2/24. The channel associations are on the 2/24 data.

Hopefully info will come to light soon.

Doctor j

[oldfantom]

My gut feeling is that these "channels" are just placeholders in the data and do not represent real bitstreams (yet). As Sixto notes, D10 shares the 103º slot where D12 will be parked operationally, but so too does Spaceway 1 (which is conspicuously empty these days). Once the data placeholders are updated to reference something besides D10 (such as D12 or SW1), we'll have a better idea of what they really represent in terms of content.

Interesting times.

I had not really seen or paid attention to SW1. It seems a huge waste of resources to have a quiet satellite in the sky. Is SW1 capable of sending the National HD? I saw a post about the ability of one of the satellites to quickly redirect streams, making it better for the on demand stuff. Is it possible SW1 then is the national provider? What is the functional life remaining on SW1? The d10-12 line is supposed to be operational for at least 15 years, right?

[Sixto]

The original was 2/20 and because of null data from TPN 5, a reload was done on 2/24. The channel associations are on the 2/24 data.

Hopefully info will come to light soon.

Doctor jYep, the old was:Network 15
*TEST 9723 10 1010 1011 tv:1930.ch
*TEST 9724 10 1020 1021 tv:mnt.ch
*TEST 9725 10 1030 1031 tv:cw.ch
*TEST 9726 10 1040 1041 tv:xmrawxl.ch
*TEST 9727 10 1050 1051 tv:xmbeyjz.ch
*TEST 9728 11 1010 1011 tv:2621.ch
*TEST 9729 11 1020 1021 tv:xmfrnkp.ch
*TEST 9730 11 1030 1031 tv:xmfntun.ch
*TEST 9731 11 1040 1041 tv:xmsyst.ch
*TEST 9732 11 1050 1051 tv:kfdmdt2.ch
*TEST 9733 12 1010 1011 tv:2041.ch
*TEST 9734 12 1020 1021 tv:ind.ch
*TEST 9735 12 1030 1031 tv:wgbhdt.ch
*TEST 9736 12 1040 1041 tv:abchd.ch
*TEST 9737 12 1050 1051 tv:wzmy.ch
*TEST 9738 13 1010 1011 tv:2993.ch
*TEST 9739 13 1020 1021 tv:witvdt.ch
*TEST 9740 13 1030 1031 tv:kmos.ch
*TEST 9741 13 1040 1041 tv:komuhd.ch
*TEST 9742 13 1050 1051 tv:cbshd.ch
*TEST 9743 14 1010 1011 tv:test9756.ch
*TEST 9744 14 1020 1021 tv:abchd.ch
*TEST 9745 14 1030 1031 tv:cw.ch
*TEST 9746 14 1040 1041 tv:kmosdt2.ch
*TEST 9747 14 1050 1051 tv:cbshd.ch
*TEST 9748 15 1010 1011 tv:kynedt.ch
*TEST 9749 15 1020 1021 tv:pbshd.ch
*TEST 9750 15 1030 1031 tv:pbshd.ch
*TEST 9751 15 1040 1041 tv:nbchd.ch
*TEST 9752 15 1050 1051 tv:abchd.ch
*TEST 9753 16 1010 1011 tv:2347.ch
*TEST 9754 16 1020 1021 tv:cwhd.ch
*TEST 9755 16 1030 1031 tv:mnthd.ch
*TEST 9756 16 1040 1041 tv:pbshd.ch
*TEST 9757 16 1050 1051 tv:3498.ch
*TEST 9758 17 1010 1011 tv:wngh.ch
*TEST 9759 17 1020 1021 tv:note.ch
*TEST 9760 17 1030 1031 tv:nbchd.ch
*TEST 9761 17 1040 1041 tv:foxhd.ch
*TEST 9762 17 1050 1051 tv:pbshd.ch
*TEST 9763 18 1010 1011 tv:test9763.ch
*TEST 9764 18 1020 1021 tv:nbchd.ch
*TEST 9765 18 1030 1031 tv:cwhd.ch
*TEST 9766 18 1040 1041 tv:abchd.ch
*TEST 9767 18 1050 1051 tv:pbshd.ch
*TEST 9768 19 1010 1011 tv:3641.ch
*TEST 9769 19 1020 1021 tv:cbshd.ch
*TEST 9770 19 1030 1031 tv:abchd.ch
*TEST 9771 19 1040 1041 tv:cbshd.ch
*TEST 9772 19 1050 1051 tv:pbshd.ch
*TEST 9773 20 1010 1011 tv:2443.ch
*TEST 9774 20 1020 1021 tv:nbchd.ch
*TEST 9775 20 1030 1031 tv:foxhd.ch
*TEST 9776 20 1040 1041 tv:cbshd.ch
*TEST 9777 20 1050 1051 tv:pbshd.ch
*TEST 9778 21 1010 1011
*TEST 9779 21 1020 1021 tv:cw.ch
*TEST 9780 21 1030 1031 tv:foxhd.ch
*TEST 9781 21 1040 1041 tv:note3606.ch
*TEST 9782 21 1050 1051 tv:note3607.ch
*TEST 9783 22 1010 1011 tv:3643.ch
*TEST 9785 22 1020 1021 tv:note3608.ch
*TEST 9786 22 1030 1031 tv:note3609.ch
*TEST 9787 22 1040 1041 tv:kcen.ch
*TEST 9788 22 1050 1051 tv:note3612.ch
*TEST 9789 23 1010 1011 tv:fso9370.ch
*TEST 9790 23 1020 1021 tv:note3613.ch
*TEST 9791 23 1030 1031 tv:test9791.ch
*TEST 9792 23 1040 1041 tv:foxhd.ch
*TEST 9793 23 1050 1051 tv:pbshd.ch
And the new is:
Name Channel Transponder Satellite Description
*TEST 9723 10 D10 @103W 1930
*TEST 9724 10 D10 @103W 2037
*TEST 9725 10 D10 @103W 2042
*TEST 9726 10 D10 @103W 2242
*TEST 9727 10 D10 @103W 2247
*TEST 9728 11 D10 @103W 2621
*TEST 9729 11 D10 @103W 2248
*TEST 9730 11 D10 @103W 2250
*TEST 9731 11 D10 @103W 2254
*TEST 9732 11 D10 @103W 2471
*TEST 9733 12 D10 @103W 2041
*TEST 9734 12 D10 @103W 3247
*TEST 9735 12 D10 @103W 3287
*TEST 9736 12 D10 @103W 3322
*TEST 9737 12 D10 @103W 3324
*TEST 9738 13 D10 @103W 2993
*TEST 9739 13 D10 @103W 3336
*TEST 9740 13 D10 @103W 3340
*TEST 9741 13 D10 @103W 3341
*TEST 9742 13 D10 @103W 3342
*TEST 9743 14 D10 @103W 2048
*TEST 9744 14 D10 @103W 3343
*TEST 9745 14 D10 @103W 3346
*TEST 9746 14 D10 @103W 3354
*TEST 9747 14 D10 @103W 3478
*TEST 9748 15 D10 @103W 3166
*TEST 9749 15 D10 @103W 3479
*TEST 9750 15 D10 @103W 3480
*TEST 9751 15 D10 @103W 3481
*TEST 9752 15 D10 @103W 3482
*TEST 9753 16 D10 @103W 2347
*TEST 9754 16 D10 @103W 3483
*TEST 9755 16 D10 @103W 3484
*TEST 9756 16 D10 @103W 3485
*TEST 9757 16 D10 @103W 3498
*TEST 9758 17 D10 @103W 3429
*TEST 9759 17 D10 @103W 3499
*TEST 9760 17 D10 @103W 3588
*TEST 9761 17 D10 @103W 3524
*TEST 9762 17 D10 @103W 3525
*TEST 9763 18 D10 @103W 2355
*TEST 9764 18 D10 @103W 3526
*TEST 9765 18 D10 @103W 3527
*TEST 9766 18 D10 @103W 3528
*TEST 9767 18 D10 @103W 3529
*TEST 9768 19 D10 @103W 3641
*TEST 9769 19 D10 @103W 3530
*TEST 9770 19 D10 @103W 3577
*TEST 9771 19 D10 @103W 3578
*TEST 9772 19 D10 @103W 3579
*TEST 9773 20 D10 @103W 2443
*TEST 9774 20 D10 @103W 3580
*TEST 9775 20 D10 @103W 3581
*TEST 9776 20 D10 @103W 3590
*TEST 9777 20 D10 @103W 3591
*TEST 9778 21 D10 @103W 3642
*TEST 9779 21 D10 @103W 3592
*TEST 9780 21 D10 @103W 3593
*TEST 9781 21 D10 @103W 3606
*TEST 9782 21 D10 @103W 3607
*TEST 9783 22 D10 @103W 3643
*TEST 9785 22 D10 @103W 3608
*TEST 9786 22 D10 @103W 3609
*TEST 9787 22 D10 @103W 3681
*TEST 9788 22 D10 @103W 3612
*TEST 9789 23 D10 @103W 4260
*TEST 9790 23 D10 @103W 3613
*TEST 9791 23 D10 @103W 3616
*TEST 9792 23 D10 @103W 3617
*TEST 9793 23 D10 @103W 3618

[Sixto]

Removed the internal channels for Mix during the Olympics (USAHD & CNBCHD):SIGNIFICANT Changes: NEW (added/moved) from 2010-03-01 compared to 2010-02-26:
NONE

SIGNIFICANT Changes: OLD (removed) from 2010-02-26 compared to 2010-03-01:
NONE

MINOR Changes: NEW (added/moved) from 2010-03-01 compared to 2010-02-26:
NONE

MINOR Changes: OLD (removed) from 2010-02-26 compared to 2010-03-01:
9242 *DTV PT D10 14 1010
9355 *DTV PT D10 14 1040

Notes: 'MINOR Changes' is movement for part-time channels
1st column is channel number, 2nd column is channel name
3rd column is FT=Full-Time, PT=Part-time, RM=Remapped from Another Channel
4th column is Satellite, 5th column is transponder number
6th column is 'slot' number, 10xx: main, 1700: hold, 0000: unassigned

[Coca Cola Kid]

664-1 is FS Detroit Plus HD. Look at tomorrow (3/3) at 7 PM ET. Its a simulcast of the Red Wings game. FS Indiana doesn't have a plus feed.

[Sixto]

SIGNIFICANT Changes: NEW (added/moved) from 2010-03-03 compared to 2010-03-01:
NONE

SIGNIFICANT Changes: OLD (removed) from 2010-03-01 compared to 2010-03-03:
NONE

MINOR Changes: NEW (added/moved) from 2010-03-03 compared to 2010-03-01:
NONE

MINOR Changes: OLD (removed) from 2010-03-01 compared to 2010-03-03:
306 HDNa PT D11 10 1700

Notes: 'MINOR Changes' is movement for part-time channels
1st column is channel number, 2nd column is channel name
3rd column is FT=Full-Time, PT=Part-time, RM=Remapped from Another Channel
4th column is Satellite, 5th column is transponder number
6th column is 'slot' number, 10xx: main, 1700: hold, 0000: unassigned

[syphix]

Kinda wondered why HDNa was there anyway....was there ever anything on it??

[RAD]

Kinda wondered why HDNa was there anyway....was there ever anything on it??

IIIRC, it was there for when HDNet carried a Dallas Mav's basketball game for viewing in the Dallas area.

[Sixto]

Weekly Friday update:SIGNIFICANT Changes: NEW (added/moved) from 2010-03-05 compared to 2010-03-03:
NONE

SIGNIFICANT Changes: OLD (removed) from 2010-03-03 compared to 2010-03-05:
NONE

MINOR Changes: NEW (added/moved) from 2010-03-05 compared to 2010-03-03:
NONE

MINOR Changes: OLD (removed) from 2010-03-03 compared to 2010-03-05:
NONE

Notes: 'MINOR Changes' is movement for part-time channels
1st column is channel number, 2nd column is channel name
3rd column is FT=Full-Time, PT=Part-time, RM=Remapped from Another Channel
4th column is Satellite, 5th column is transponder number
6th column is 'slot' number, 10xx: main, 1700: hold, 0000: unassigned

[woj027]

I don't want to go down the "anticipation path" here (there's a thread for that).

Would there be anything in the stream specifically for Versus, if it was to show up in a short time span (for example next Monday) or since we previously had the channel, could we "flip the switch" and it's on?

[Sixto]

I don't want to go down the "anticipation path" here (there's a thread for that).

Would there be anything in the stream specifically for Versus, if it was to show up in a short time span (for example next Monday) or since we previously had the channel, could we "flip the switch" and it's on?Would just flip Cinema HD 159 off. Versus HD on.

Reverse was done on 9/1/2009.

[woj027]

Would just flip Cinema HD 159 off. Versus HD on.

Reverse was done on 9/1/2009.

thanks.

[Stuart Sweet]

This is not a general discussion thread, please keep discussion to changes in the HD channel map. Thanks.

[Sixto]

Took down Cinema 159 HD, the old Versus HD slot:SIGNIFICANT Changes: NEW (added/moved) from 2010-03-08 compared to 2010-03-03:
NONE

SIGNIFICANT Changes: OLD (removed) from 2010-03-03 compared to 2010-03-08:
159 CINEHD FT D10 12 1030

MINOR Changes: NEW (added/moved) from 2010-03-08 compared to 2010-03-03:
NONE

MINOR Changes: OLD (removed) from 2010-03-03 compared to 2010-03-08:
NONE

Notes: 'MINOR Changes' is movement for part-time channels
1st column is channel number, 2nd column is channel name
3rd column is FT=Full-Time, PT=Part-time, RM=Remapped from Another Channel
4th column is Satellite, 5th column is transponder number
6th column is 'slot' number, 10xx: main, 1700: hold, 0000: unassigned

[Coca Cola Kid]

Took down Cinema 159 HD, the old Versus HD slot:SIGNIFICANT Changes: NEW (added/moved) from 2010-03-08 compared to 2010-03-03:
NONE

SIGNIFICANT Changes: OLD (removed) from 2010-03-03 compared to 2010-03-08:
159 CINEHD FT D10 12 1030

MINOR Changes: NEW (added/moved) from 2010-03-08 compared to 2010-03-03:
NONE

MINOR Changes: OLD (removed) from 2010-03-03 compared to 2010-03-08:
NONE

Notes: 'MINOR Changes' is movement for part-time channels
1st column is channel number, 2nd column is channel name
3rd column is FT=Full-Time, PT=Part-time, RM=Remapped from Another Channel
4th column is Satellite, 5th column is transponder number
6th column is 'slot' number, 10xx: main, 1700: hold, 0000: unassigned

So is there a new (non-PPV) HD channel coming today? Its Wednesday after all. ESPNU HD would be nice for March Madness.

[TheRatPatrol]

So is there a new (non-PPV) HD channel coming today? Its Wednesday after all. ESPNU HD would be nice for March Madness.
Nope.

[Coca Cola Kid]

Sixto why'd they just up and remove a PPV channel if its not being replaced by something else? Did they just get bored?

[Sixto]

Sixto why'd they just up and remove a PPV channel if its not being replaced by something else? Did they just get bored?It seems fairly clear what it's for. :)

[Coca Cola Kid]

It seems fairly clear what it's for. :)

and that'd be what? I haven't read about the Versus deal getting resolved if that's what you're getting at...

[Sixto]

and that'd be what?Obviously not confirmed but a pretty good guess would be:http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=163322

D10/TP12/1030 previously was the slot for Versus HD.

[jefbal99]

and that'd be what? I haven't read about the Versus deal getting resolved if that's what you're getting at...

Maybe they feel they are close enough in the discussions that they are prepping for its return?

[Coca Cola Kid]

Obviously not confirmed but a pretty good guess would be:http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=163322

D10/TP12/1030 previously was the slot for Versus HD.

There's been another unconfirmed claim by an MMA blog?

[Sixto]

There's been another unconfirmed claim by an MMA blog?It's best we wait and see.

Versus HD was replaced by Cinema HD 159.

Rather then add another national HD, it has always seemed likely that the slot was being saved for the return of Versus HD.

There have been rumors that Versus HD will return soon.

At the same time, Cinema HD 159 has been taken down.

It certainly does not appear to be a coincidence.

Patience.

[Coca Cola Kid]

It's best we wait and see.

Versus HD was replaced by Cinema HD 159.

Rather then add another national HD, it has always seemed likely that the slot was being saved for the return of Versus HD.

There have been rumors that Versus HD will return soon.

At the same time, Cinema HD 159 has been taken down.

It certainly does not appear to be a coincidence.

Patience.

I'm aware of all this, I follow this thread.

The only thing near a source for a resolution was a DirecTV tweet that it "might" return in April. My calendar says its only March 10.

[Hoosier205]

I'm aware of all this, I follow this thread.

The only thing near a source for a resolution was a DirecTV tweet that it "might" return in April. My calendar says its only March 10.

+ comments made by Satelliteracer. All signs point to this nearing a resolution soon.

[Coca Cola Kid]

+ comments made by Satelliteracer. All signs point to this nearing a resolution soon.

When? Where?

[Sixto]

Let's move the rest of the conversation to the Versus thread (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=163322).

It's fairly clear why they took down 159. Patience.

[Coca Cola Kid]

methinks Sixto knows something we don't...

[Sixto]

methinks Sixto knows something we don't...Just reading the Versus HD thread, and been watching 159 for a while.

Discussion over there ...

[woj027]

methinks Sixto knows something we don't...

He always does. That's why we trust what he says.

[Curtis0620]

No mention of the MMM channels being added today?

[Sixto]

Sure. :)

Were added this morning:SIGNIFICANT Changes: NEW (added/moved) from 2010-03-12 compared to 2010-03-08a:
158 CINEHD FT D11 4 1700 <------ 158 CINEHD FT D11 4 1040

SIGNIFICANT Changes: OLD (removed) from 2010-03-08a compared to 2010-03-12:
NONE

MINOR Changes: NEW (added/moved) from 2010-03-12 compared to 2010-03-08a:
124 PPV PT D11 4 1040 <------ 124 PPV PT D11 4 1700
702 MMMHD PT D11 2 1700
703 MMMHD PT D11 2 1700
704 MMMHD PT D11 10 1700
705 MMMHD PT D11 10 1700

MINOR Changes: OLD (removed) from 2010-03-08a compared to 2010-03-12:
NONE

Notes: 'MINOR Changes' is movement for part-time channels
1st column is channel number, 2nd column is channel name
3rd column is FT=Full-Time, PT=Part-time, RM=Remapped from Another Channel
4th column is Satellite, 5th column is transponder number
6th column is 'slot' number, 10xx: main, 1700: hold, 0000: unassigned

[Hoosier205]

What is MMM?

[Sixto]

What is MMM?mega march madness.

https://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/content/sports/mega_march_madness?footernavtype=-1

[Hoosier205]

mega march madness.

https://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/content/sports/mega_march_madness?footernavtype=-1

Thank you.

[Sixto]

Yep. It's back!

It was not there this morning.SIGNIFICANT Changes: NEW (added/moved) from 2010-03-15 compared to 2010-03-14:
603 VSHD FT D10 12 1030

SIGNIFICANT Changes: OLD (removed) from 2010-03-14 compared to 2010-03-15:
NONE

MINOR Changes: NEW (added/moved) from 2010-03-15 compared to 2010-03-14:
NONE

MINOR Changes: OLD (removed) from 2010-03-14 compared to 2010-03-15:
NONE

Notes: 'MINOR Changes' is movement for part-time channels
1st column is channel number, 2nd column is channel name
3rd column is FT=Full-Time, PT=Part-time, RM=Remapped from Another Channel
4th column is Satellite, 5th column is transponder number
6th column is 'slot' number, 10xx: main, 1700: hold, 0000: unassigned

[Sixto]

Listing and Transponder map updated with the return of Versus HD.

[Coca Cola Kid]

Listing and Transponder map updated with the return of Versus HD.

Well you can cross off number 8 from the survey even though its on D10 and not D12. :)

[Coca Cola Kid]

Sixto the March Madness channels are up.

[Sixto]

Sixto the March Madness channels are up.Yes, posted that Friday. Still awaiting 701 HD.

[Coca Cola Kid]

Yes, posted that Friday. Still awaiting 701 HD.

Ya I guess you did. I haven't checked in a few days.

[jefbal99]

Yes, posted that Friday. Still awaiting 701 HD.

keep waiting, it won't come ;) No mention of the Mix channel being in HD on the DirecTV site.

[Sixto]

The beginning of the moves, and March Madness.SIGNIFICANT Changes: NEW (added/moved) from 2010-03-17 compared to 2010-03-16:
554 TMCeHD FT D10 8 1050

SIGNIFICANT Changes: OLD (removed) from 2010-03-16 compared to 2010-03-17:
NONE

MINOR Changes: NEW (added/moved) from 2010-03-17 compared to 2010-03-16:
9506 DTV PT D11 1 1090
9507 DTV PT D11 2 1090
9510 DTV PT D10 1 1090
9511 DTV PT D10 2 1090
9702 *NCAA PT D11 2 1010
9703 *NCAA PT D11 2 1020
9704 *NCAA PT D11 10 1010
9705 *NCAA PT D11 10 1020

MINOR Changes: OLD (removed) from 2010-03-16 compared to 2010-03-17:
NONE

Notes: 'MINOR Changes' is movement for part-time channels
1st column is channel number, 2nd column is channel name
3rd column is FT=Full-Time, PT=Part-time, RM=Remapped from Another Channel
4th column is Satellite, 5th column is transponder number
6th column is 'slot' number, 10xx: main, 1700: hold, 0000: unassigned

[Sixto]

March Madness "live", few part-time removed:SIGNIFICANT Changes: NEW (added/moved) from 2010-03-19 compared to 2010-03-17:
148 CINEHD FT D11 10 1700 <------ 148 CINEHD FT D11 10 1010
149 CINEHD FT D11 10 1700 <------ 149 CINEHD FT D11 10 1020
150 CINEHD FT D11 2 1700 <------ 150 CINEHD FT D11 2 1010
152 CINEHD FT D11 2 1700 <------ 152 CINEHD FT D11 2 1020

SIGNIFICANT Changes: OLD (removed) from 2010-03-17 compared to 2010-03-19:
NONE

MINOR Changes: NEW (added/moved) from 2010-03-19 compared to 2010-03-17:
702 MMMHD PT D11 2 1010 <------ 702 MMMHD PT D11 2 1700
703 MMMHD PT D11 2 1020 <------ 703 MMMHD PT D11 2 1700
704 MMMHD PT D11 10 1010 <------ 704 MMMHD PT D11 10 1700
705 MMMHD PT D11 10 1020 <------ 705 MMMHD PT D11 10 1700

MINOR Changes: OLD (removed) from 2010-03-17 compared to 2010-03-19:
728 DTV PT D10 13 1700
729 DTV PT D11 4 1700
730 DTV PT D10 14 1700

Notes: 'MINOR Changes' is movement for part-time channels
1st column is channel number, 2nd column is channel name
3rd column is FT=Full-Time, PT=Part-time, RM=Remapped from Another Channel
4th column is Satellite, 5th column is transponder number
6th column is 'slot' number, 10xx: main, 1700: hold, 0000: unassigned

[Coca Cola Kid]

Hey Sixto channel 99 says the MPEG-2 channels will be removed on April 1. I noticed you just have "soon".

[Sixto]

MLS and March Madness:SIGNIFICANT Changes: NEW (added/moved) from 2010-03-22 compared to 2010-03-19:
148 CINEHD FT D11 10 1010 <------ 148 CINEHD FT D11 10 1700
149 CINEHD FT D11 10 1020 <------ 149 CINEHD FT D11 10 1700
150 CINEHD FT D11 2 1010 <------ 150 CINEHD FT D11 2 1700
152 CINEHD FT D11 2 1020 <------ 152 CINEHD FT D11 2 1700

SIGNIFICANT Changes: OLD (removed) from 2010-03-19 compared to 2010-03-22:
NONE

MINOR Changes: NEW (added/moved) from 2010-03-22 compared to 2010-03-19:
471 MLS RM D10 0 0000
472 MLS RM D10 0 0000
473 MLS RM D10 0 0000
474 MLS RM D10 0 0000
475 MLS RM D10 0 0000
476 MLS RM D10 0 0000
702 MMMHD PT D11 2 1700 <------ 702 MMMHD PT D11 2 1010
703 MMMHD PT D11 2 1700 <------ 703 MMMHD PT D11 2 1020

MINOR Changes: OLD (removed) from 2010-03-19 compared to 2010-03-22:
704 MMMHD PT D11 10 1010
705 MMMHD PT D11 10 1020
9704 *NCAA PT D11 10 1010
9705 *NCAA PT D11 10 1020

Notes: 'MINOR Changes' is movement for part-time channels
1st column is channel number, 2nd column is channel name
3rd column is FT=Full-Time, PT=Part-time, RM=Remapped from Another Channel
4th column is Satellite, 5th column is transponder number
6th column is 'slot' number, 10xx: main, 1700: hold, 0000: unassigned

[Sixto]

The channel movement:SIGNIFICANT Changes: NEW (added/moved) from 2010-03-24 compared to 2010-03-22:
545 SHOeHD FT D11 8 1020
546 SHOwHD FT D10 11 1040
547 SHO2HD FT D10 9 1030
548 SHO3HD FT D11 5 1020
549 EXTRHD FT D11 9 1020

SIGNIFICANT Changes: OLD (removed) from 2010-03-22 compared to 2010-03-24:
544 TMCeHD FT D10 8 1050

MINOR Changes: NEW (added/moved) from 2010-03-24 compared to 2010-03-22:
NONE

MINOR Changes: OLD (removed) from 2010-03-22 compared to 2010-03-24:
NONE

Notes: 'MINOR Changes' is movement for part-time channels
1st column is channel number, 2nd column is channel name
3rd column is FT=Full-Time, PT=Part-time, RM=Remapped from Another Channel
4th column is Satellite, 5th column is transponder number
6th column is 'slot' number, 10xx: main, 1700: hold, 0000: unassigned

[Sixto]

Not sure what 9516 is (yet):SIGNIFICANT Changes: NEW (added/moved) from 2010-03-26 compared to 2010-03-24:
150 CINEHD FT D11 2 1700 <------ 150 CINEHD FT D11 2 1010
152 CINEHD FT D11 2 1700 <------ 152 CINEHD FT D11 2 1020

SIGNIFICANT Changes: OLD (removed) from 2010-03-24 compared to 2010-03-26:
NONE

MINOR Changes: NEW (added/moved) from 2010-03-26 compared to 2010-03-24:
702 MMMHD PT D11 2 1010 <------ 702 MMMHD PT D11 2 1700
703 MMMHD PT D11 2 1020 <------ 703 MMMHD PT D11 2 1700
9516 *TEST PT D11 4 1700

MINOR Changes: OLD (removed) from 2010-03-24 compared to 2010-03-26:
NONE

Notes: 'MINOR Changes' is movement for part-time channels
1st column is channel number, 2nd column is channel name
3rd column is FT=Full-Time, PT=Part-time, RM=Remapped from Another Channel
4th column is Satellite, 5th column is transponder number
6th column is 'slot' number, 10xx: main, 1700: hold, 0000: unassigned

[TheRatPatrol]

Not sure what 9516 is (yet)
Testing Nat Geo Wild HD? ESPNU HD?

[JoeTheDragon]

Testing Nat Geo Wild HD? ESPNU HD?

CSN Philly?

[Coca Cola Kid]

Testing Nat Geo Wild HD? ESPNU HD?

D* actually keep a promise? Blasphemy! :lol:

[SPACEMAKER]

9516 might be a Cinemax HD channel

[Coca Cola Kid]

9516 might be a Cinemax HD channel

I doubt it, the new premiums are on D12.

[jefbal99]

Not sure what 9516 is (yet)

Source channel for an HD LiL going on a CONUS Beam? I'm thinking about the MLS DK package, their is a game tonight and DirecTV is listing an HD feed, so it could be the local channel out of Colorado which is showing the game in HD.

[wmb]

Source channel for an HD LiL going on a CONUS Beam? I'm thinking about the MLS DK package, their is a game tonight and DirecTV is listing an HD feed, so it could be the local channel out of Colorado which is showing the game in HD.

Those were added in post #86, above.

I'm thinking something to get our hopes up for the channel we want. I'm guessing a few people will be upset when its not what they want.

[jefbal99]

Those were added in post #86, above.

I'm thinking something to get our hopes up for the channel we want. I'm guessing a few people will be upset when its not what they want.

Those just look like place holders, with many teams have the games on HD Broadcast, I thought maybe DirecTV would have to use a hidden source channel.

[Coca Cola Kid]

Those just look like place holders, with many teams have the games on HD Broadcast, I thought maybe DirecTV would have to use a hidden source channel.

D* usually doesn't include local broadcast station feeds on NHLCI and NBALP. Why would they on a low demand package like MLS DK?

[JoeTheDragon]

D* doesn't include local broadcast station feeds on NHLCI and NBALP. Why would they on a low demand package like MLS DK?

Don't they show up if it's the only feed?

[Coca Cola Kid]

Don't they show up if it's the only feed?

Well since most teams are on RSN's, I'm gonna say that's seldom the case.

[wmb]

Well since most teams are on RSN's, I'm gonna say that's seldom the case.

Unfortunately, it looks like most of the MLS games aren't on the RSNs.

I must say the HD looks nice. Here's hoping Week in Review uses video from this feed. Lord knows I've squinted at plenty of super low resolution videos trying to figure out what USSF was talking about.

[Sixto]

bye bye March Madness:SIGNIFICANT Changes: NEW (added/moved) from 2010-03-27 compared to 2010-03-26:
150 CINEHD FT D11 2 1010 <------ 150 CINEHD FT D11 2 1700
152 CINEHD FT D11 2 1020 <------ 152 CINEHD FT D11 2 1700
158 CINEHD FT D11 4 1700 <------ 158 CINEHD FT D11 4 1040

SIGNIFICANT Changes: OLD (removed) from 2010-03-26 compared to 2010-03-27:
NONE

MINOR Changes: NEW (added/moved) from 2010-03-27 compared to 2010-03-26:
124 PPV PT D11 4 1040 <------ 124 PPV PT D11 4 1700

MINOR Changes: OLD (removed) from 2010-03-26 compared to 2010-03-27:
702 MMMHD PT D11 2 1010
703 MMMHD PT D11 2 1020
9702 *NCAA PT D11 2 1010
9703 *NCAA PT D11 2 1020

Notes: 'MINOR Changes' is movement for part-time channels
1st column is channel number, 2nd column is channel name
3rd column is FT=Full-Time, PT=Part-time, RM=Remapped from Another Channel
4th column is Satellite, 5th column is transponder number
6th column is 'slot' number, 10xx: main, 1700: hold, 0000: unassigned

[Coca Cola Kid]

bye bye March Madness:SIGNIFICANT Changes: NEW (added/moved) from 2010-03-27 compared to 2010-03-26:
150 CINEHD FT D11 2 1010 <------ 150 CINEHD FT D11 2 1700
152 CINEHD FT D11 2 1020 <------ 152 CINEHD FT D11 2 1700
158 CINEHD FT D11 4 1700 <------ 158 CINEHD FT D11 4 1040

SIGNIFICANT Changes: OLD (removed) from 2010-03-26 compared to 2010-03-27:
NONE

MINOR Changes: NEW (added/moved) from 2010-03-27 compared to 2010-03-26:
124 PPV PT D11 4 1040 <------ 124 PPV PT D11 4 1700

MINOR Changes: OLD (removed) from 2010-03-26 compared to 2010-03-27:
702 MMMHD PT D11 2 1010
703 MMMHD PT D11 2 1020
9702 *NCAA PT D11 2 1010
9703 *NCAA PT D11 2 1020

Notes: 'MINOR Changes' is movement for part-time channels
1st column is channel number, 2nd column is channel name
3rd column is FT=Full-Time, PT=Part-time, RM=Remapped from Another Channel
4th column is Satellite, 5th column is transponder number
6th column is 'slot' number, 10xx: main, 1700: hold, 0000: unassigned

Any idea what 9516 is yet?

[Sixto]

Any idea what 9516 is yet?No text data is in the stream.

Usually 9xxx test channels map to their xxx counterparts. You'd think it's related to 516, which soon will be moved from 514, but 514/516 is already in HD.

It is on a transponder (D11/TP4) with spacem which is one of the transponders with only 4 HD channels (for multiple Cinema HD).

If I had to guess, I'd say it's related to baseball, Florida and Cincinnati are on that transponder. But just a guess.

[Sixto]

For those who'd like to be notified of any "significant" news:http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=174806


There's been some discussion in the past for a CLOSED thread, that can be subscribed to, to track just the important stuff.

"Significant" will be anything that seems important relative to this thread ... anything that seems "interesting". :)

[BigRedFan]

Hello Sixto, thanks much for all the great work you do here, very much appreciate it.... I don't know whether this info has been posted somewhere else but it may help with the 9516 question...The April issue of DTV's Access Magazine received this week shows 3 HD changes in the Channel Line-Up Section.... Under "Sports Pack" it now shows a reduction of the part-time HD RSN's from 5 to 2.... It now lists the following 3 RSN's as HD Full-Time: FSN Florida (654), Comcast Sportsnet-Bay Area (696), and Comcast Sportsnet-California (698).... The Line-Up list keeps 2 RSN's as HD Part-Time: FSN-Ohio (660-1) and FSN-Cincinnati (661-1)....

Previously (up to March 2010), Access Magazine had been showing these 5 RSN's as all being HD Part-Time.... This does not appear to be an editing typo because in order to list the 3 new HD full-time RSN's the editor had to remove the additional lines previously assigned to 654-1, 696-1 and 698-1 plus also insert (for the first time) the HD Icon next to these 3 RSN's.....

Since baseball season is starting soon perhaps this had been pre-planned by DTV all along for April 2010-- independent of D12.... If true, these 3 RSN's would be our first new HD since Altitude HD was added last fall....

[Sixto]

Hello Sixto, thanks much for all the great work you do here, very much appreciate it.... I don't know whether this info has been posted somewhere else but it may help with the 9516 question...The April issue of DTV's Access Magazine received this week shows 3 HD changes in the Channel Line-Up Section.... Under "Sports Pack" it now shows a reduction of the part-time HD RSN's from 5 to 2.... It now lists the following 3 RSN's as HD Full-Time: FSN Florida (654), Comcast Sportsnet-Bay Area (696), and Comcast Sportsnet-California (698).... The Line-Up list keeps 2 RSN's as HD Part-Time: FSN-Ohio (660-1) and FSN-Cincinnati (661-1)....

Previously (up to March 2010), Access Magazine had been showing these 5 RSN's as all being HD Part-Time.... This does not appear to be an editing typo because in order to list the 3 new HD full-time RSN's the editor had to remove the additional lines previously assigned to 654-1, 696-1 and 698-1 plus also insert (for the first time) the HD Icon next to these 3 RSN's.....

Since baseball season is starting soon perhaps this had been pre-planned by DTV all along for April 2010-- independent of D12.... If true, these 3 RSN's would be our first new HD since Altitude HD was added last fall....Thanks for the nice description.

Yes, would have assumed that Florida, Bay Area, and California are on the list for D12, which has been expected late-April / early-May.

Guess the only question right now would be if any go earlier then D12. Seems unlikely, but maybe there's some contractual obligation.

We'll see soon.

[iceturkee]

don't forget masn2 hd is suppose to go full time when baseball season starts. i believe it was already announced that dtv would carry on launch.

i thought fs ohio and fs cincinnati were suppose to go full time with the other 3 mentioned.

[Coca Cola Kid]

Sixto, are the test feeds you receive only for HD channels? They announced they're adding The Documentary Channel (ch 263) tomorrow (http://www.multichannel.com/article/450809-Documentary_Channel_Inks_DirecTV_Deal_Lifts_Sub_Co unt_To_25_Million.php), could that be what 9516 is?

[Sixto]

Sixto, are the test feeds you receive only for HD channels? They announced they're adding The Documentary Channel (ch 263) tomorrow (http://www.multichannel.com/article/450809-Documentary_Channel_Inks_DirecTV_Deal_Lifts_Sub_Co unt_To_25_Million.php), could that be what 9516 is?Only watching D10/D11/D12, doctor J/gct have them all.

[doctor j]

Only watching D10/D11/D12, doctor J/gct have them all.


Ch 263 likely on 101 in SD.
I can check in the AM, or see if already "primed" tonight.
Will post what I find.

I doubt this is the HD "test" channel 9516 that we've been watching

Doctor j

[doctor j]

OK it's ready.
Data download 101 TPN 2 Net0 ie SAT101 CONUS:

*DOC 263 3|00 006E 006F tv:doc.ch

* often used as *TEST channel.
Should be live in AM after 6 AM EDT.

Full 101 TPN 2 data download as a .txt file available for the geekier here.

Doctor j

[Sixto]

Channel moves and part-time:SIGNIFICANT Changes: NEW (added/moved) from 2010-03-31 compared to 2010-03-29:
157 CINEHD FT D10 13 1700 <------ 157 CINEHD FT D10 13 1030
158 CINEHD FT D11 4 1700 <------ 158 CINEHD FT D11 4 1040

SIGNIFICANT Changes: OLD (removed) from 2010-03-29 compared to 2010-03-31:
537 SHOeHD FT D11 8 1020
538 SHO2HD FT D10 9 1030
539 SHO3HD FT D11 5 1020
540 SHOwHD FT D10 11 1040
542 EXTRHD FT D11 9 1020

MINOR Changes: NEW (added/moved) from 2010-03-31 compared to 2010-03-29:
122 PPV PT D10 13 1030 <------ 122 PPV PT D10 13 1700
124 PPV PT D11 4 1040 <------ 124 PPV PT D11 4 1700

MINOR Changes: OLD (removed) from 2010-03-29 compared to 2010-03-31:
NONE

Notes: 'MINOR Changes' is movement for part-time channels
1st column is channel number, 2nd column is channel name
3rd column is FT=Full-Time, PT=Part-time, RM=Remapped from Another Channel
4th column is Satellite, 5th column is transponder number
6th column is 'slot' number, 10xx: main, 1700: hold, 0000: unassigned

[beachmonkey]

We should be seeing MLB Extra Innings appear anytime in the next couple days I assume.

[Sixto]

We should be seeing MLB Extra Innings appear anytime in the next couple days I assume.Yep, all part-time channels.

[doctor j]

Should be live.
* removed this AM

DOC 263 3|00 006E 006F tv:doc.ch

SD CONUS Sat 101 Transponder 3

Doctor j

[Sixto]

We should be seeing MLB Extra Innings appear anytime in the next couple days I assume.Just took a quick peak. All the MLBEI will be there in the morning run.

[Curtis0620]

Just took a quick peak. All the MLBEI will be there in the morning run.

Masters channels up now.

[jefbal99]

Just took a quick peak. All the MLBEI will be there in the morning run.

They were up last night when I was watching at 11:20p ET

[Sixto]

MLB (Baseball), UEFA (Soccer), Masters (Golf), ...SIGNIFICANT Changes: NEW (added/moved) from 2010-04-01 compared to 2010-03-31:
154 CINEHD FT D11 6 1700 <------ 154 CINEHD FT D11 6 1030
155 CINEHD FT D11 6 1700 <------ 155 CINEHD FT D11 6 1020
157 CINEHD FT D10 13 1030 <------ 157 CINEHD FT D10 13 1700
158 CINEHD FT D11 4 1040 <------ 158 CINEHD FT D11 4 1700

SIGNIFICANT Changes: OLD (removed) from 2010-03-31 compared to 2010-04-01:
136 CINEHD FT D11 1 1020
137 CINEHD FT D11 1 1010

MINOR Changes: NEW (added/moved) from 2010-04-01 compared to 2010-03-31:
122 PPV PT D10 13 1700 <------ 122 PPV PT D10 13 1030
124 PPV PT D11 4 1700 <------ 124 PPV PT D11 4 1040
461 UEFA PT D11 1 1fc0 <------ 461 UEFA PT D11 1 1700
701 MSTRHD PT D11 1 1700
702 MSTRHD PT D11 2 1700
703 MSTRHD PT D11 2 1700
704 MSTRHD PT D11 10 1700
705 MSTRHD PT D11 10 1700
720 MLBHD RM D10 0 0000
721 MLBHD RM D11 3 1700
722 MLBHD RM D10 5 1700
723 MLBHD RM D11 9 1700
724 MLBHD RM D10 11 1700
725 MLBHD RM D11 2 1700
726 MLBHD RM D11 2 1700
727 MLBHD RM D11 10 1700
728 MLBHD RM D10 8 1700
729 MLBHD RM D11 8 1700
730 MLBHD RM D11 4 1700
731 MLBHD RM D10 7 1700
732 MLBHD RM D11 4 1700
733 MLBHD RM D10 5 1700
734 MLBHD RM D11 11 1700
735 MLBHD RM D11 3 1700
736 MLBHD RM D10 0 0000
736 MLBHD RM D10 1 1700
737 MLBHD RM D10 11 1700
739 MLBHD RM D11 6 1700
740 MLBHD RM D10 7 1700
741 MLBHD RM D10 8 1700
742 MLBHD RM D10 10 1700
743 MLBHD RM D11 8 1700
744 MLBHD RM D10 10 1700
745 MLBHD RM D10 0 0000
746 MLBHD RM D10 10 1700
747 MLBHD RM D10 0 0000
748 MLBHD RM D10 0 0000
749 MLBHD RM D10 0 0000

MINOR Changes: OLD (removed) from 2010-03-31 compared to 2010-04-01:
731 DTV PT D11 4 1700

Notes: 'MINOR Changes' is movement for part-time channels
1st column is channel number, 2nd column is channel name
3rd column is FT=Full-Time, PT=Part-time, RM=Remapped from Another Channel
4th column is Satellite, 5th column is transponder number
6th column is 'slot' number, 10xx: main, 1700: hold, 0000: unassigned

[Indiana627]

Why did they take down 2 FT CINEHD channels, 136 and 137? Did they need the bandwidth for the Masters? Or MLB EI? Or are 2 new national HD channels coming?

[Sixto]

Why did they take down 2 FT CINEHD channels, 136 and 137? Did they need the bandwidth for the Masters? Or MLB EI? Or are 2 new national HD channels coming?It's for the UEFA Mix channel.

They've done that several times. Several HD Mix share those 2 slots.

[Sixto]

UEFA, MLB, YBCHD:SIGNIFICANT Changes: NEW (added/moved) from 2010-04-02 compared to 2010-04-01:
154 CINEHD FT D11 6 1030 <------ 154 CINEHD FT D11 6 1700
155 CINEHD FT D11 6 1020 <------ 155 CINEHD FT D11 6 1700

SIGNIFICANT Changes: OLD (removed) from 2010-04-01 compared to 2010-04-02:
NONE

MINOR Changes: NEW (added/moved) from 2010-04-02 compared to 2010-04-01:
461 UEFA PT D11 1 1700 <------ 461 UEFA PT D11 1 1fc0
738 MLBHD RM D11 3 1700
9632 *DTV PT D11 11 1040
9720 *DTV PT D11 1 1fc0

MINOR Changes: OLD (removed) from 2010-04-01 compared to 2010-04-02:
736 MLBHD RM D10 1 1700

Notes: 'MINOR Changes' is movement for part-time channels
1st column is channel number, 2nd column is channel name
3rd column is FT=Full-Time, PT=Part-time, RM=Remapped from Another Channel
4th column is Satellite, 5th column is transponder number
6th column is 'slot' number, 10xx: main, 1700: hold, 0000: unassigned

[Sixto]

MLB Alternate:SIGNIFICANT Changes: NEW (added/moved) from 2010-04-03 compared to 2010-04-02:
158 CINEHD FT D11 4 1700 <------ 158 CINEHD FT D11 4 1040

SIGNIFICANT Changes: OLD (removed) from 2010-04-02 compared to 2010-04-03:
NONE

MINOR Changes: NEW (added/moved) from 2010-04-03 compared to 2010-04-02:
124 PPV PT D11 4 1040 <------ 124 PPV PT D11 4 1700
214 MLBaHD PT D11 10 1700

MINOR Changes: OLD (removed) from 2010-04-02 compared to 2010-04-03:
NONE

Notes: 'MINOR Changes' is movement for part-time channels
1st column is channel number, 2nd column is channel name
3rd column is FT=Full-Time, PT=Part-time, RM=Remapped from Another Channel
4th column is Satellite, 5th column is transponder number
6th column is 'slot' number, 10xx: main, 1700: hold, 0000: unassigned

[bamaweather]

The new transponder map data from 4/4 now shows comments next to a few of those test channels at 103. Including...

15 *TEST 9732 11 D10 @103W 2471 FSN Cincinnati HD_HD PPV
15 *TEST 9736 12 D10 @103W 3322 HBO2 East HD
15 *TEST 9737 12 D10 @103W 3324 HBO2 West HD
15 *TEST 9739 13 D10 @103W 3336 FSN Ohio HD (D12)
15 *TEST 9753 16 D10 @103W 2347 FSN Florida HD (D12)
15 *TEST 9761 17 D10 @103W 3524 TMC Xtra HD East

Seeing (D12) next to a couple of them makes it almost certain this isn't the typical faux channel information you sometimes see in the remarks with a test channel. As for the four digit numbers in the remarks, they don't seem to coincide with a channel location where any of these new channels would be. Sure, TMC Xtra should be in the 500s, but based on the new channel assignments, it will probably be 556. We already have an SD version of the HBO2s, so we know where they will be. Same for the RSNs. It's odd that the first one also has "_HD PPV" appended.

Interesting stuff!

[Sixto]

The new transponder map data from 4/4 now shows comments next to a few of those test channels at 103. Including...

15 *TEST 9732 11 D10 @103W 2471 FSN Cincinnati HD_HD PPV
15 *TEST 9736 12 D10 @103W 3322 HBO2 East HD
15 *TEST 9737 12 D10 @103W 3324 HBO2 West HD
15 *TEST 9739 13 D10 @103W 3336 FSN Ohio HD (D12)
15 *TEST 9753 16 D10 @103W 2347 FSN Florida HD (D12)
15 *TEST 9761 17 D10 @103W 3524 TMC Xtra HD East

Seeing (D12) next to a couple of them makes it almost certain this isn't the typical faux channel information you sometimes see in the remarks with a test channel. As for the four digit numbers in the remarks, they don't seem to coincide with a channel location where any of these new channels would be. Sure, TMC Xtra should be in the 500s, but based on the new channel assignments, it will probably be 556. We already have an SD version of the HBO2s, so we know where they will be. Same for the RSNs. It's odd that the first one also has "_HD PPV" appended.

Interesting stuff!This also a few more ... AMC, WGN, ESPNU, GolTV, 3D PPV, IFC, MSNBC, ... will go through in detail tomorrow ...

[Coca Cola Kid]

The new transponder map data from 4/4 now shows comments next to a few of those test channels at 103. Including...

15 *TEST 9732 11 D10 @103W 2471 FSN Cincinnati HD_HD PPV
15 *TEST 9736 12 D10 @103W 3322 HBO2 East HD
15 *TEST 9737 12 D10 @103W 3324 HBO2 West HD
15 *TEST 9739 13 D10 @103W 3336 FSN Ohio HD (D12)
15 *TEST 9753 16 D10 @103W 2347 FSN Florida HD (D12)
15 *TEST 9761 17 D10 @103W 3524 TMC Xtra HD East

Seeing (D12) next to a couple of them makes it almost certain this isn't the typical faux channel information you sometimes see in the remarks with a test channel. As for the four digit numbers in the remarks, they don't seem to coincide with a channel location where any of these new channels would be. Sure, TMC Xtra should be in the 500s, but based on the new channel assignments, it will probably be 556. We already have an SD version of the HBO2s, so we know where they will be. Same for the RSNs. It's odd that the first one also has "_HD PPV" appended.

Interesting stuff!

This also a few more ... AMC, WGN, ESPNU, GolTV, 3D PPV, IFC, MSNBC, ... will go through in detail tomorrow ...

So these are some of the new HD channels we're getting??? :hurah:

[ddobson]

This does remind me that if they replace the PPV channels they've cannibalized in the last couple years, those will be considered part of the national 200 channels won't they?

[JoeTheDragon]

The new transponder map data from 4/4 now shows comments next to a few of those test channels at 103. Including...

15 *TEST 9732 11 D10 @103W 2471 FSN Cincinnati HD_HD PPV
15 *TEST 9736 12 D10 @103W 3322 HBO2 East HD
15 *TEST 9737 12 D10 @103W 3324 HBO2 West HD
15 *TEST 9739 13 D10 @103W 3336 FSN Ohio HD (D12)
15 *TEST 9753 16 D10 @103W 2347 FSN Florida HD (D12)
15 *TEST 9761 17 D10 @103W 3524 TMC Xtra HD East

Seeing (D12) next to a couple of them makes it almost certain this isn't the typical faux channel information you sometimes see in the remarks with a test channel. As for the four digit numbers in the remarks, they don't seem to coincide with a channel location where any of these new channels would be. Sure, TMC Xtra should be in the 500s, but based on the new channel assignments, it will probably be 556. We already have an SD version of the HBO2s, so we know where they will be. Same for the RSNs. It's odd that the first one also has "_HD PPV" appended.

Interesting stuff!

Is FSN Cincinnati HD just a sub feed / over flow of FSN Ohio?

[bamaweather]

Is FSN Cincinnati HD just a sub feed / over flow of FSN Ohio?

It's a separate feed that's on 24/7. DirecTV already carries the SD version on 661.

[mattsarz]

Will be nice to get FSOhio in HD. Part of getting the Sports Pack is because they never offered the FSN college football games from the PAC-10 and Big 12 in HD, so I'd switch over to a different RSN to watch those games.

[bamaweather]

Will be nice to get FSOhio in HD. Part of getting the Sports Pack is because they never offered the FSN college football games from the PAC-10 and Big 12 in HD, so I'd switch over to a different RSN to watch those games.

Interestingly, the Wikipedia article would seem to indicate it was FS Ohio that's been choosing to not carry those college football games in HD. But that's only if you believe Wikipedia.

BTW, if you are who I think you are, you run a very awesome website and I use it religiously during college football season. I sit down every week and make a schedule of all the games I can watch!

[mattsarz]

Interestingly, the Wikipedia article would seem to indicate it was FS Ohio that's been choosing to not carry those college football games in HD. But that's only if you believe Wikipedia.

BTW, if you are who I think you are, you run a very awesome website and I use it religiously during college football season. I sit down every week and make a schedule of all the games I can watch!

I think they make a choice not to have those games on the HD feed. I do wonder if its because of the infrastructure that FSOhio and FSFlorida have. Remember that these two were previously owned by Cablevision and were swapped over to Fox along with FSN Chicago a few years ago. Believe they are still controlled out of Bethpage, NY too instead of Fox's control facility in Houston.

As for the college sports, that's me and I'm glad you and others enjoy it.

[Sixto]

Quick pass thru the 70 test channels ...

Channels with some readable channel data ...

9732: FSN Cincinnati
9733: IFC
9735: ESPNU
9736: HBO2 East
9737: HBO2 West
9739: FSN Ohio
9743: MSNBC
9744: WGN
9745: AMC
9749: GolTV
9753: FSN Florida
9757: 3D PPV
9761: TMC Xtr

[mpar1]

ESPNU, huh? Very nice!

[richall01]

Quick pass thru the 70 test channels ...

Channels with some readable channel data ...

9732: FSN Cincinnati
9733: IFC
9735: ESPNU
9736: HBO2 East
9737: HBO2 West
9739: FSN Ohio
9743: MSNBC
9744: WGN
9745: AMC
9749: GolTV
9753: FSN Florida
9757: 3D PPV
9761: TMC Xtr

Still no word on The Travel Channel

[ptuck874]

but ifc and amc are pretty nice :)

[Coca Cola Kid]

The ultimate question now is when will these be added?

[Sixto]

The ultimate question now is when will these be added?All discussion/anticipation in the other thread. :)

[tonyd79]

Quick pass thru the 70 test channels ...

Channels with some readable channel data ...

9732: FSN Cincinnati
9733: IFC
9735: ESPNU
9736: HBO2 East
9737: HBO2 West
9739: FSN Ohio
9743: MSNBC
9744: WGN
9745: AMC
9749: GolTV
9753: FSN Florida
9757: 3D PPV
9761: TMC Xtr

Nice list. Great work, again, Sixto!

[wmb]

Quick pass thru the 70 test channels ...

Channels with some readable channel data ...

9732: FSN Cincinnati
9733: IFC
9735: ESPNU
9736: HBO2 East
9737: HBO2 West
9739: FSN Ohio
9743: MSNBC
9744: WGN
9745: AMC
9749: GolTV
9753: FSN Florida
9757: 3D PPV
9761: TMC Xtr

Interesting to find GolTV on the list. Only last week, GolTV announced that they would be going HD in August. Nice to know that space will be there when they start broadcasting.

Hopefully the wet blanket crowd won't read too much into that.

[jefbal99]

Interesting to find GolTV on the list. Only last week, GolTV announced that they would be going HD in August. Nice to know that space will be there when they start broadcasting.

Hopefully the wet blanket crowd won't read too much into that.

agreed, I expected FSC HD and FS+ HD rather than GolTV. I full expect many to be added, so just gotta wait it out now.

[rey_1178]

Quick pass thru the 70 test channels ...

Channels with some readable channel data ...

9732: FSN Cincinnati
9733: IFC
9735: ESPNU
9736: HBO2 East
9737: HBO2 West
9739: FSN Ohio
9743: MSNBC
9744: WGN
9745: AMC
9749: GolTV
9753: FSN Florida
9757: 3D PPV
9761: TMC Xtr
70 TEST CHANNELS???? :eek::eek:

[Beerstalker]

They've been around since mid-February
http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?p=2369569#post2369569

It's nice to be getting more hints about what is going on with them though.

[cebbigh]

Are these still just place holders or are they actually putting signal on them now? Are they D10 or future use for D12?

[Sixto]

Are these still just place holders or are they actually putting signal on them now? Are they D10 or future use for D12?Unknown.

[TheRatPatrol]

I take it you didn't find any other channel info today?

[P Smith]

Are these still just place holders or are they actually putting signal on them now? Are they D10 or future use for D12?
Isn't the post what you asking for http://www.dbstalk.com/showpost.php?p=2413601&postcount=124 ?

[Sixto]

I take it you didn't find any other channel info today?Just what was posted today.

[woj027]

Just what was posted today.

Is there a limit to how many channels could be in the stream at one time?

Could these 11 be the limit they can currently test at any one time?

[P Smith]

No limit.

[Sixto]

Masters and Channel number change:SIGNIFICANT Changes: NEW (added/moved) from 2010-04-07 compared to 2010-04-05:
154 CINEHD FT D11 6 1700 <------ 154 CINEHD FT D11 6 1030
155 CINEHD FT D11 6 1700 <------ 155 CINEHD FT D11 6 1020
525 STZKHD FT D10 10 1030
526 STZCHD FT D10 7 1030
527 STZeHD FT D10 13 1020
528 STZwHD FT D10 7 1010
529 SEDGHD FT D10 5 1050

SIGNIFICANT Changes: OLD (removed) from 2010-04-05 compared to 2010-04-07:
NONE

MINOR Changes: NEW (added/moved) from 2010-04-07 compared to 2010-04-05:
9701 *DTV PT D11 6 1fc0
9702 *DTV PT D10 14 1050
9703 *DTV PT D11 2 1010
9704 *DTV PT D11 2 1020
9705 *DTV PT D11 2 1040

MINOR Changes: OLD (removed) from 2010-04-05 compared to 2010-04-07:
NONE

Notes: 'MINOR Changes' is movement for part-time channels
1st column is channel number, 2nd column is channel name
3rd column is FT=Full-Time, PT=Part-time, RM=Remapped from Another Channel
4th column is Satellite, 5th column is transponder number
6th column is 'slot' number, 10xx: main, 1700: hold, 0000: unassigned

[cebbigh]

Quick pass thru the 70 test channels ...

Channels with some readable channel data ...

9732: FSN Cincinnati
9733: IFC
9735: ESPNU
9736: HBO2 East
9737: HBO2 West
9739: FSN Ohio
9743: MSNBC
9744: WGN
9745: AMC
9749: GolTV
9753: FSN Florida
9757: 3D PPV
9761: TMC Xtr

Do these all imply HD?

[P Smith]

Absolutely.

[Coca Cola Kid]

Sixto, they finally fixed the EPG info for 664-1, correctly labeling it FS Detroit alt HD (FSDaHD). You should change yours too. Also they added 675-1 (RSNaHD) and 633-1 (YESaHD) recently.

[Sixto]

SIGNIFICANT Changes: NEW (added/moved) from 2010-04-17 compared to 2010-04-07:
144 CINEHD FT D10 10 1700 <------ 144 CINEHD FT D10 10 1040
154 CINEHD FT D11 6 1030 <------ 154 CINEHD FT D11 6 1700
155 CINEHD FT D11 6 1020 <------ 155 CINEHD FT D11 6 1700
158 CINEHD FT D11 4 1700 <------ 158 CINEHD FT D11 4 1040
512 MAXeHD FT D10 13 1050 <------ 512 MAXeHD FT D10 3 1050
515 MAXeHD FT D10 3 1050
516 MAXwHD FT D10 13 1050

SIGNIFICANT Changes: OLD (removed) from 2010-04-07 compared to 2010-04-17:
518 STZKHD FT D10 10 1030
519 STZCHD FT D10 7 1030
520 STZeHD FT D10 13 1020
521 STZwHD FT D10 7 1010
522 SEDGHD FT D10 5 1050
563 DTV FT D11 1 1090
564 DTV FT D11 2 1090
565 DTV FT D10 1 1090
566 DTV FT D10 2 1090

MINOR Changes: NEW (added/moved) from 2010-04-17 compared to 2010-04-07:
124 PPV PT D11 4 1040 <------ 124 PPV PT D11 4 1700
479 DTV PT D10 10 1040 <------ 479 DTV PT D11 10 1700
633 YESA PT D10 14 1700
641 MASNaHD PT D10 13 1030 <------ 641 MASNaHD PT D11 6 1700
664 ------- PT D11 10 1700
675 DTV PT D11 4 1700
675 RSNa PT D10 0 0000
698 CSCAHD PT D11 10 1040 <------ 698 CSCAHD PT D11 4 1700

MINOR Changes: OLD (removed) from 2010-04-07 compared to 2010-04-17:
664 FSSaHD PT D11 2 1700
701 MSTRHD PT D11 6 1700
702 MSTRHD PT D10 14 1700
703 MSTRHD PT D11 2 1700
704 MSTRHD PT D11 2 1700
705 MSTRHD PT D11 2 1700
751 NBAHD RM D11 5 1700
752 NBAHD RM D11 14 1700
753 NBAHD RM D11 13 1700
754 NBAHD RM D11 13 1700
755 NBAHD RM D11 6 1700
756 NBAHD RM D11 2 1700
757 NBAHD RM D11 10 1700
758 NBAHD RM D11 10 1700
759 NBAHD RM D10 7 1700
760 NBAHD RM D11 6 1700
761 NBAHD RM D11 6 1700
762 NBAHD RM D10 12 1700
763 NBAHD RM D11 14 1700
764 NBAHD RM D10 9 1700
765 NBAHD RM D11 10 1700
766 NBAHD RM D10 5 1700
767 NBAHD RM D11 10 1700
768 NBAHD RM D11 5 1700
9701 *DTV PT D11 6 1fc0
9702 *DTV PT D10 14 1050
9703 *DTV PT D11 2 1010
9704 *DTV PT D11 2 1020
9705 *DTV PT D11 2 1040

Notes: 'MINOR Changes' is movement for part-time channels
1st column is channel number, 2nd column is channel name
3rd column is FT=Full-Time, PT=Part-time, RM=Remapped from Another Channel
4th column is Satellite, 5th column is transponder number
6th column is 'slot' number, 10xx: main, 1700: hold, 0000: unassigned

[Satelliteracer]

May Flowers are the result of April Showers

Find that pole in the attic.....

[Sixto]

May Flowers are the result of April Showers

Find that pole in the attic.....Also replied in the other thread.

Pole ready!

[RawisTheGameHhH]

hmmm I don't get the hint; oh well

[Hoosier205]

hmmm I don't get the hint; oh well

Festivus in May.

[RawisTheGameHhH]

I figured out the May part; but what's with the pole?

[sigma1914]

I figured out the May part; but what's with the pole?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8g4Ztf7hIM

[RawisTheGameHhH]

Thanks; I never watched Seinfield

[sigma1914]

Thanks; I never watched Seinfield

I figured...it's great, give it a shot.

[LameLefty]

A pole in May usually refers to a May Pole.

http://may-pole.com/images/maypole_pic2.jpg

But a Festivus Pole would be nice too.

[sum_random_dork]

Lame Lefty, I see that picture the first thing I think of when I see that picture is "The Safety Dance." (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcOZ6xFxJqg) Hopefully May turns into a great month for all the D* subs! :D

[rey_1178]

A pole in May usually refers to a May Pole.

http://may-pole.com/images/maypole_pic2.jpg

But a Festivus Pole would be nice too.
nice to see your caddyshack avatar back :D now i know who everyone is again :grin:

[oldfantom]

nice to see your caddyshack avatar back :D now i know who everyone is again :grin:

ummmm, Ghostbusters. "Back off man, (he's) a scientist."

[Sixto]

Let's have all discussion in the other threads .. Thx.

[rey_1178]

ummmm, Ghostbusters. "Back off man, (he's) a scientist."
yeah thats right. sorry lol :o

[cebbigh]

Kind of clear now the 70 are D12 guide data and not something mysterious going on with D10. But shouldn't there be 80? What's up with that? :)

[Coca Cola Kid]

Kind of clear now the 70 are D12 guide data and not something mysterious going on with D10. But shouldn't there be 80? What's up with that? :)

The rest is PPV, VOD, and 3DTV

[Beerstalker]

Maybe they don't want to fill the thing to capacity right away, so they are leaving some room for expansion down the road (since they probably won't be adding another sat for at least a couple years).

Also 70 test channels don't necessarily mean there re 70 channels just waiting to be put on D12 when it goes live. They are just test data and could be any number of things.

[Hoosier205]

A partial channel list has been released. I have posted it in the anticipation thread.

[pjo1966]

I guess I'll be searching for torrents in order to watch Mad Men in HD.

[Sixto]

SIGNIFICANT Changes: NEW (added/moved) from 2010-04-21 compared to 2010-04-19:
146 CINEHD FT D10 11 1700 <------ 146 CINEHD FT D10 11 1030
561 HDNM FT D11 3 1030
562 MGMHD FT D10 3 1010
564 UHD FT D11 13 1040
565 SMTHHD FT D10 4 1010
566 CIHD FT D11 12 1010
567 PLDAHD FT D10 3 1030

SIGNIFICANT Changes: OLD (removed) from 2010-04-19 compared to 2010-04-21:
512 MAXeHD FT D10 13 1050
514 MAXwHD FT D10 13 1050

MINOR Changes: NEW (added/moved) from 2010-04-21 compared to 2010-04-19:
479 DTV PT D10 11 1030 <------ 479 DTV PT D11 2 1700

MINOR Changes: OLD (removed) from 2010-04-19 compared to 2010-04-21:
NONE

Notes: 'MINOR Changes' is movement for part-time channels
1st column is channel number, 2nd column is channel name
3rd column is FT=Full-Time, PT=Part-time, RM=Remapped from Another Channel
4th column is Satellite, 5th column is transponder number
6th column is 'slot' number, 10xx: main, 1700: hold, 0000: unassigned

[Sixto]

Looks like Univision HD to replace Cinema HD 130.SIGNIFICANT Changes: NEW (added/moved) from 2010-04-25 compared to 2010-04-22:
157 CINEHD FT D10 13 1700 <------ 157 CINEHD FT D10 13 1030
158 CINEHD FT D11 4 1700 <------ 158 CINEHD FT D11 4 1040
402 *UNIeHD FT D11 14 1010

SIGNIFICANT Changes: OLD (removed) from 2010-04-22 compared to 2010-04-25:
130 CINEHD FT D11 14 1010

MINOR Changes: NEW (added/moved) from 2010-04-25 compared to 2010-04-22:
122 PPV PT D10 13 1030 <------ 122 PPV PT D10 13 1700
124 PPV PT D11 4 1040 <------ 124 PPV PT D11 4 1700
9797 *HPAS PT D10 9 1020

MINOR Changes: OLD (removed) from 2010-04-22 compared to 2010-04-25:
9734 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1020
9797 HPAS PT D10 9 1020

Notes: 'MINOR Changes' is movement for part-time channels
1st column is channel number, 2nd column is channel name
3rd column is FT=Full-Time, PT=Part-time, RM=Remapped from Another Channel
4th column is Satellite, 5th column is transponder number
6th column is 'slot' number, 10xx: main, 1700: hold, 0000: unassigned

[cheesedjdj]

Why would they do that unless there was some sort of contractual obligation?

[Sixto]

Why would they do that unless there was some sort of contractual obligation?Maybe there is, or just looking to grow the spanish speaking market. Either way, looks like Univision HD on the way!

[cheesedjdj]

Maybe there is, or just looking to grow the spanish speaking market. Either way, looks like Univision HD on the way!

Cool works more me. I know some people who will be very happy with this.:)

[Smthkd]

I saw UniHD at the locals BrandsmartUSA in GA...The PQ is great. Thanks for the Update Sixto! (The sky is not falling! :D )

[BigRedFan]

Hi Sixto, did you notice that DTV eliminated a few days ago the 671-1 HD sub-channel for FSN Midwest and now returned it to the 671 full-time HD slot ?... I think this is good news for those of us who feared they were going to convert FSN Midwest into a part-time HD channel (although they never did at 671-1).....

Also, now we get the HD version automatically when we press 671 as opposed to having to manually enter 671-1 each time we wanted to see FSN-MW in HD... Nice surprise this week !

[James Long]

Hi Sixto, did you notice that DTV eliminated a few days ago the 671-1 HD sub-channel for FSN Midwest and now returned it to the 671 full-time HD slot ?
The chart in post 1 shows that change. :confused: I think he noticed. :)

[Sixto]

Hi Sixto, did you notice that DTV eliminated a few days ago the 671-1 HD sub-channel for FSN Midwest and now returned it to the 671 full-time HD slot ?... I think this is good news for those of us who feared they were going to convert FSN Midwest into a part-time HD channel (although they never did at 671-1).....

Also, now we get the HD version automatically when we press 671 as opposed to having to manually enter 671-1 each time we wanted to see FSN-MW in HD... Nice surprise this week !Hmmm.

Can't say I've noticed any change with 671.

It's been 671 full-time for a long time.

You're saying that recently it switched to 671-1 temporarily?

[BigRedFan]

FSN-Midwest HD was switched (from 671) to 671-1 months ago (last fall 2009)..... Sixto never updated his DirecTV HD Channels List (to reflect this change) because he told an earlier poster (months ago) that he wasn't sure if this was a permanent DTV move or not...

He speculated that perhaps DTV might be converting FSN-MW- HD back to a part-time HD channel but he wasn't sure... As long as 671-1 kept mirroring 671 (full-time and not as an HD part-time sub-channel) ) he was going to keep it as HD on 671 (on his List) , and not change it to 671-1.....Now, this week, DTV returned the HD channel to where it had been located until last fall 2009 (671) and eliminated 671-1 (which had been its HD home since last fall) ... We also now, once again, get the HD channel automatically on the remote without having to manually look for and press 671-1 if we wished to see the HD version...

Hope this clarifies any confusion... Thanks !

[Sixto]

FSN-Midwest HD was switched (from 671) to 671-1 months ago (last fall 2009)..... Sixto never updated his DirecTV HD Channels List (to reflect this change) because he told an earlier poster (months ago) that he wasn't sure if this was a permanent DTV move or not...

He speculated that perhaps DTV might be converting FSN-MW- HD back to a part-time HD channel but he wasn't sure... As long as 671-1 kept mirroring 671 (full-time and not as an HD part-time sub-channel) ) he was going to keep it as HD on 671 (on his List) , and not change it to 671-1.....Now, this week, DTV returned the HD channel to where it had been located until last fall 2009 (671) and eliminated 671-1 (which had been its HD home since last fall) ... We also now, once again, get the HD channel automatically on the remote without having to manually look for and press 671-1 if we wished to see the HD version...

Hope this clarifies any confusion... Thanks !You remember much better then I. :)

Yep, looks like the full time status never changed, just the channel number without the -1, then with the -1 and then not again, all along showing in the daily check as full-time. (btw, I don't check the -1 or not in the guide data, don't know how).

[Coca Cola Kid]

DirecTV's site (http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/content/hd/channels) says we're supposed to get Telefutura West HD "in April".

[Sixto]

Just the usual part-time. (no Univision HD "live" yet.)SIGNIFICANT Changes: NEW (added/moved) from 2010-04-26 compared to 2010-04-25:
157 CINEHD FT D10 13 1030 <------ 157 CINEHD FT D10 13 1700
158 CINEHD FT D11 4 1040 <------ 158 CINEHD FT D11 4 1700

SIGNIFICANT Changes: OLD (removed) from 2010-04-25 compared to 2010-04-26:
NONE

MINOR Changes: NEW (added/moved) from 2010-04-26 compared to 2010-04-25:
122 PPV PT D10 13 1700 <------ 122 PPV PT D10 13 1030
124 PPV PT D11 4 1700 <------ 124 PPV PT D11 4 1040

MINOR Changes: OLD (removed) from 2010-04-25 compared to 2010-04-26:
NONE

Notes: 'MINOR Changes' is movement for part-time channels
1st column is channel number, 2nd column is channel name
3rd column is FT=Full-Time, PT=Part-time, RM=Remapped from Another Channel
4th column is Satellite, 5th column is transponder number
6th column is 'slot' number, 10xx: main, 1700: hold, 0000: unassigned

[mystic7]

That's the channel with Sabado Gigante, right? Finally, I can stop watching iCarly reruns on Saturday night!

[Coca Cola Kid]

Sixto, Univision East (402) and Telefutura West (408) were added today

[Sixto]

As expected:SIGNIFICANT Changes: NEW (added/moved) from 2010-04-28 compared to 2010-04-26:
157 CINEHD FT D10 13 1700 <------ 157 CINEHD FT D10 13 1030
158 CINEHD FT D11 4 1700 <------ 158 CINEHD FT D11 4 1040
402 UNIeHD FT D11 14 1010

SIGNIFICANT Changes: OLD (removed) from 2010-04-26 compared to 2010-04-28:
402 *UNIeHD FT D11 14 1010

MINOR Changes: NEW (added/moved) from 2010-04-28 compared to 2010-04-26:
122 PPV PT D10 13 1030 <------ 122 PPV PT D10 13 1700
124 PPV PT D11 4 1040 <------ 124 PPV PT D11 4 1700

MINOR Changes: OLD (removed) from 2010-04-26 compared to 2010-04-28:
NONE

Notes: 'MINOR Changes' is movement for part-time channels
1st column is channel number, 2nd column is channel name
3rd column is FT=Full-Time, PT=Part-time, RM=Remapped from Another Channel
4th column is Satellite, 5th column is transponder number
6th column is 'slot' number, 10xx: main, 1700: hold, 0000: unassigned

[Sixto]

Not yet sure where 408 HD is, I only look at D10/D11.

[jefbal99]

Not yet sure where 408 HD is, I only look at D10/D11.

Being that Telefutura is only part of the Spanish packages, I would venture a guess that its MPEG4 off 110 or 119.

[Sixto]

Being that Telefutura is only part of the Spanish packages, I would venture a guess that its MPEG4 off 110 or 119.That's my guess as well, thinking 110.

[Coca Cola Kid]

Sixto, any idea why they didn't remove the old HD Extra channel numbers? They removed all the old premiums a week after adding the new ones.

[RAD]

110 would be my guess also since you need 119 for the spanish package and Telefutura so they'd probably have a phase III dish already. Plus they needed to get something on 110 so the FCC wouldn't want the licenses back due to non usage.

[P Smith]

Doctor J and gct would know that for sure.

[Sixto]

Doctor J and gct would know that for sure.Will be interesting to see.

[bobnielsen]

Being that Telefutura is only part of the Spanish packages, I would venture a guess that its MPEG4 off 110 or 119.

With only a 99/101/103 LNB I am not seeing it in the guide, so you must be correct.

[Christopher Gould]

i have a SL5 and i see it in the guide. i dont have a spanish package.

[Sixto]

Confirmed from doctor j (thanks!).

Telefutura HD is on 119/Transponder 23. And there's a bunch of other TEST channels there as well.

[Davenlr]

Telefutura gives me a Channel Not Purchased on my SWiM5, but Univision comes in.

Any clues what the additional TEST channels on 119 will be used for?

[thelucky1]

Confirmed from doctor j (thanks!).

Telefutura HD is on 119/Transponder 23. And there's a bunch of other TEST channels there as well.

Any indication of what those test channels are?

[Sixto]

Any clues what the additional TEST channels on 119 will be used for?

Any indication of what those test channels are?Nope.

[Coca Cola Kid]

Telefutura gives me a Channel Not Purchased on my SWiM5, but Univision comes in.

Any clues what the additional TEST channels on 119 will be used for?

Univision is on Choice, Telefutura is on DirecTV Mas.

[Sixto]

Some weird test channels in the D10 national guide data. Idaho Falls.SIGNIFICANT Changes: NEW (added/moved) from 2010-05-01 compared to 2010-04-29:
3 *KIDK FT D10 ?? 1010
6 *KPVI FT D10 ?? 1020
8 *KIFI FT D10 ?? 1030
10 *KISU FT D10 ?? 1040
10 *KISU2 FT D10 ?? 1070
15 *KPIF FT D10 ?? 1050
31 *KFXP FT D10 ?? 1060
158 CINEHD FT D11 4 1700 <------ 158 CINEHD FT D11 4 1040

SIGNIFICANT Changes: OLD (removed) from 2010-04-29 compared to 2010-05-01:
NONE

MINOR Changes: NEW (added/moved) from 2010-05-01 compared to 2010-04-29:
124 PPV PT D11 4 1040 <------ 124 PPV PT D11 4 1700

MINOR Changes: OLD (removed) from 2010-04-29 compared to 2010-05-01:
NONE

Notes: 'MINOR Changes' is movement for part-time channels
1st column is channel number, 2nd column is channel name
3rd column is FT=Full-Time, PT=Part-time, RM=Remapped from Another Channel
4th column is Satellite, 5th column is transponder number
6th column is 'slot' number, 10xx: main, 1700: hold, 0000: unassigned

[doctor j]

Some weird test channels in the D10 national guide data. Idaho Falls.SIGNIFICANT Changes: NEW (added/moved) from 2010-05-01 compared to 2010-04-29:
3 *KIDK FT D10 ?? 1010
6 *KPVI FT D10 ?? 1020
8 *KIFI FT D10 ?? 1030
10 *KISU FT D10 ?? 1040
10 *KISU2 FT D10 ?? 1070
15 *KPIF FT D10 ?? 1050
31 *KFXP FT D10 ?? 1060
158 CINEHD FT D11 4 1700 <------ 158 CINEHD FT D11 4 1040

SIGNIFICANT Changes: OLD (removed) from 2010-04-29 compared to 2010-05-01:
NONE

MINOR Changes: NEW (added/moved) from 2010-05-01 compared to 2010-04-29:
124 PPV PT D11 4 1040 <------ 124 PPV PT D11 4 1700

MINOR Changes: OLD (removed) from 2010-04-29 compared to 2010-05-01:
NONE

Notes: 'MINOR Changes' is movement for part-time channels
1st column is channel number, 2nd column is channel name
3rd column is FT=Full-Time, PT=Part-time, RM=Remapped from Another Channel
4th column is Satellite, 5th column is transponder number
6th column is 'slot' number, 10xx: main, 1700: hold, 0000: unassigned

Also on NET 11 the "CONUS" band at 99 D11/SW2


Network 11
WCBS 2 17 1030 1031 tv:cbshd.ch
WNBC 4 20 1020 1021 tv:nbchd.ch
WNYW 5 16 1050 1051 tv:foxhd.ch
WABC 7 19 1040 1041 tv:abchd.ch
*KQCA 9871 15 1020 1021 tv:kqcadt.ch
*KFJX 14 18 1030 1031 tv:foxhd.ch
*KSNF 16 18 1040 1041 tv:ksnfhd.ch
*KOZJ 26 18 1050 1051 tv:kozjhd.ch
*WLOX 13 24 1010 1011 tv:abchd.ch
*WMAH 19 24 1020 1021 tv:pbshd.ch
*WXXV 25 24 1030 1031 tv:foxhd.ch
Channels: 11

Big 4 from New York CONUS/DNS networks listed like this for a couple of months

KQCA a Sacramento MyNetWork channel has been seen before, a test channel?!.

The KFJX (FOX), KSNF (NBC), KOZJ (PBS) are the new Directv DMA, Joplin MO./ Pittsburg,KS.

The WMAH (PBS) , WXXV (FOX) are another new Directv DMA, Biloxi, MS.

They are scheduled to launch in May along with Idaho Falls/Pocatello, ID.

Interesting, ?D-12 LIL marker?? This is a KA HIGH marker.

Doctor j

[BigRedFan]

Hi Sixto, your latest Post #1 update shows TeleFutura-HD- Ch. 408 broadcasting at 720p HD..... However, TeleFutura OTA is at 1080i HD, just like Univision-HD.... Is DTV downconverting the 1080i signal to 720p ?.... If so, do they do this with other 1080i networks ? (ie. bring them down to 720p)... Thanks !

[Sixto]

Hi Sixto, your latest Post #1 update shows TeleFutura-HD- Ch. 408 broadcasting at 720p HD..... However, TeleFutura OTA is at 1080i HD, just like Univision-HD.... Is DTV downconverting the 1080i signal to 720p ?.... If so, do they do this with other 1080i networks ? (ie. bring them down to 720p)... Thanks !Thanks for the info. Had based the 720p info on a post here. Fixed.

[BigRedFan]

Thanks for the info. Had based the 720p info on a post here. Fixed.

Thanks for the quick reply (and correction) !...

Happy to see that DTV was not reducing the TF 1080i signal down to 720p.... We have a secondary PBS station down here (WXEL-42) which sends out all its PBS 1080i programming in 720p and it does not look good.....

[Sixto]

SIGNIFICANT Changes: NEW (added/moved) from 2010-05-05 compared to 2010-05-03:
604 VSaHD FT D11 2 1700

SIGNIFICANT Changes: OLD (removed) from 2010-05-03 compared to 2010-05-05:
NONE

MINOR Changes: NEW (added/moved) from 2010-05-05 compared to 2010-05-03:
NONE

MINOR Changes: OLD (removed) from 2010-05-03 compared to 2010-05-05:
NONE

Notes: 'MINOR Changes' is movement for part-time channels
1st column is channel number, 2nd column is channel name
3rd column is FT=Full-Time, PT=Part-time, RM=Remapped from Another Channel
4th column is Satellite, 5th column is transponder number
6th column is 'slot' number, 10xx: main, 1700: hold, 0000: unassigned

[Baldmaga]

So after the entire first round, and halfway through the second round of the NHL Playoffs...they just NOW are going to put up an alternate channel???

Ugh...

[jefbal99]

So after the entire first round, and halfway through the second round of the NHL Playoffs...they just NOW are going to put up an alternate channel???

Ugh...

:nono:

No need for it before now, almost every game was available from the RSNs to NHL CI subs

From what I read/heard from Versus, the Alternate feed is only for when the telecast on the Primary channel was blacked out due to your local RSN having the broadcast rights.

The Alternate was just a friendly gesture, you really didn't miss any games.

[tonyd79]

:nono:

No need for it before now, almost every game was available from the RSNs to NHL CI subs

From what I read/heard from Versus, the Alternate feed is only for when the telecast on the Primary channel was blacked out due to your local RSN having the broadcast rights.

The Alternate was just a friendly gesture, you really didn't miss any games.

I agree. The only guide data I have seen on 604 said "Alternate Programming" which means non-game Versus stuff for markets that are blacked out. Also, no mention on the Versus home page about simultaneous games. (And all the JIP games are RSN rebroadcasts, anyway.)

[JoeTheDragon]

I agree. The only guide data I have seen on 604 said "Alternate Programming" which means non-game Versus stuff for markets that are blacked out. Also, no mention on the Versus home page about simultaneous games. (And all the JIP games are RSN rebroadcasts, anyway.)
How about when game goes into over time and game 2 is only on VS?

[tonyd79]

How about when game goes into over time and game 2 is only on VS?

Maybe but thinking out the blackout rules for that makes my head hurt.

[Sixto]

SIGNIFICANT Changes: NEW (added/moved) from 2010-05-07 compared to 2010-05-05:
NONE

SIGNIFICANT Changes: OLD (removed) from 2010-05-05 compared to 2010-05-07:
NONE

MINOR Changes: NEW (added/moved) from 2010-05-07 compared to 2010-05-05:
750 MLBHD RM D10 14 1700

MINOR Changes: OLD (removed) from 2010-05-05 compared to 2010-05-07:
750 NBAHD RM D10 0 0000

Notes: 'MINOR Changes' is movement for part-time channels
1st column is channel number, 2nd column is channel name
3rd column is FT=Full-Time, PT=Part-time, RM=Remapped from Another Channel
4th column is Satellite, 5th column is transponder number
6th column is 'slot' number, 10xx: main, 1700: hold, 0000: unassigned

[BigRedFan]

Hi Sixto, just received this month's DTV bill and in the Programming Newsletter insert they're listing the first 20 new HD channels to be added in May/June with all their corresponding HD channel locations ("The New DirecTV Channel Line-Up" on pg. 1)....

No surprises in the line-up announcements except for one. They are listing "TeleFutura" (doesn't say east or west) on Channel 74, not the current channel 408 where HD was recently added.... Since this Newsletter does not cover any networks from the Spanish-language packages (I get a separate Newsletter for "Mas" channels) my assumption is that non-"Mas" subscribers will now also be getting TeleFutura-HD for the first time but on this different channel location...

Since the channel selected is 74 I immediately thought of the old MPEG 2 HD channels previously located in that neighborhood.... However, it doesn't make sense to tie channel numbers to MPEG2 or 4.....If they want to open up TF to all DTV subscribers they can just leave it at 408 and open up the Guide...

Unless, for some strange reason, they wish to offer TF in MPEG 2 HD at 74 and in MPEG 4 HD on 408.... Any thoughts on what's going on here ?

[James Long]

Sounds like marketing to me ... put the channel low next to local channels where it will be seen. They may even do it on a market by market basis ... only in markets that don't have a local TeleFutura OTA feed or only in markets that do to save carrying all of the affiliates. Whatever their agreement with TeleFutura is.

The only way to know for sure is to wait for DirecTV to announce the plan in detail or put it into place where it can be observed. I wouldn't be surprised if the channel were added nationwide to all subscribers as DISH already has it in their "Choice" level English packages. People shouldn't have to subscribe to a full Spanish package to get it.

[Coca Cola Kid]

Any thoughts on what's going on here ?

Probably just another error by a summer intern...

[Sixto]

Hi Sixto, just received this month's DTV bill and in the Programming Newsletter insert they're listing the first 20 new HD channels to be added in May/June with all their corresponding HD channel locations ("The New DirecTV Channel Line-Up" on pg. 1)....

No surprises in the line-up announcements except for one. They are listing "TeleFutura" (doesn't say east or west) on Channel 74, not the current channel 408 where HD was recently added.... Since this Newsletter does not cover any networks from the Spanish-language packages (I get a separate Newsletter for "Mas" channels) my assumption is that non-"Mas" subscribers will now also be getting TeleFutura-HD for the first time but on this different channel location...

Since the channel selected is 74 I immediately thought of the old MPEG 2 HD channels previously located in that neighborhood.... However, it doesn't make sense to tie channel numbers to MPEG2 or 4.....If they want to open up TF to all DTV subscribers they can just leave it at 408 and open up the Guide...

Unless, for some strange reason, they wish to offer TF in MPEG 2 HD at 74 and in MPEG 4 HD on 408.... Any thoughts on what's going on here ?Might that be a new local channel. Seems like they've recently added a number of new local HD channels.

[BigRedFan]

Might that be a new local channel. Seems like they've recently added a number of new local HD channels.

I don't think so.... Local channels should stop at Ch. 69 (no FCC OTA channel frequencies above 69 and this is being placed on 74).... DTV carries national networks beginning on Ch. 71....

Also, DTV Newsletter's "New Channel Line-Up" lists only national networks... No local stations are listed here (otherwise it'd be a very thick newsletter)... It's also listed as "TeleFutura" (between TeenNick and Tennis Channel) and not as a local station call letter, ie. WFUT-68- NYC....

[TheRatPatrol]

I have a shopping channel on 74.

[Sixto]

I have a shopping channel on 74.Me too.

[bb37]

Local channels should stop at Ch. 69 (no FCC OTA channel frequencies above 69 and this is being placed on 74).
Now that we are in the post-DTV transition era, OTA TV channel assigments stop at Ch. 51 (692-698 MHz). Virtual channel numbers encoded into DTV signals may still extend beyond 51.

[BigRedFan]

I have a shopping channel on 74.

The channels between 71 and 98 are generally all SD paid infomercial channels (not national "networks") which DTV does not acknowledge or list in any of the official Channel Line-Up Guides they issue monthly (in Access Magazine or the Programming Newsletter or in their website).... Some were added as fillers after the MPEG 2 HD channels were removed last month...

So my thought (and hope) is that they can easily remove the infomercial channel on 74 (or move it) in order to accommodate the TF-HD addition they've announced for Ch. 74.... We'll see soon enough....

I do agree that the channel number selected is puzzling (unless it's related to the MPEG 2 issue)....

[Coca Cola Kid]

The channels between 71 and 98 are generally all SD paid infomercial channels (not national "networks") which DTV does not acknowledge or list in any of the official Channel Line-Up Guides they issue monthly (in Access Magazine or the Programming Newsletter or in their website).... Some were added as fillers after the MPEG 2 HD channels were removed last month...

So my thought (and hope) is that they can easily remove the infomercial channel on 74 (or move it) in order to accommodate the TF-HD addition they've announced for Ch. 74.... We'll see soon enough....

I do agree that the channel number selected is puzzling (unless it's related to the MPEG 2 issue)....

We already have Telefutura HD. Its on channel 408 and you need DirecTV Más to watch it. Some stupid summer intern put in 74 though and nobody caught the typo. It will never be on channel 74. There will never be MPEG-2 HD channels ever again on DirecTV, they're 100% MPEG-4 now.

[Tom Servo]

We already have Telefutura HD. Its on channel 408 and you need DirecTV Más to watch it. Some stupid summer intern put in 74 though and nobody caught the typo. It will never be on channel 74. There will never be MPEG-2 HD channels ever again on DirecTV, they're 100% MPEG-4 now.
The channel number has nothing to do with the delivery method.

[BigRedFan]

We already have Telefutura HD. Its on channel 408 and you need DirecTV Más to watch it. Some stupid summer intern put in 74 though and nobody caught the typo. It will never be on channel 74. There will never be MPEG-2 HD channels ever again on DirecTV, they're 100% MPEG-4 now.

The DTV Newsletter does not cover, acknowledge or list any Mas channels.... I get a separate monthly Newsletter for Mas, where TF has always been listed at 408.... This is the first time that TF is listed here (for all non-Mas subscribers) and included as part of DTV's "national" Channel Lineup at 74...

It's hard to understand how the editor(s) would miss such a major error (this is on the cover/front page), given that now all subscribers are being told of this new national HD availability and will be calling DTV if they don't get it...

If you're right (which is very conceivable), the stupid summer intern made 2 errors: 1) he/she grabbed a network belonging to Mas (non-primary satellite) and now put it on the D10/D11/D12 menu and 2) changed its channel location by a factor of over 300..

If not, we definitely want to see it in MPEG 4 HD, not MPEG 2 ... plus the east HD feed to complement the west on 408...

[dcowboy7]

The list says 73 HD networks but is there a way to tell what they actually are on that list ?

I only count 72 ?

[Beerstalker]

BigRedFan, any chance you are in an area with a local TFT channel and the channel number is a typo?

I found these locals in Florida

WAMI-69 Miami
WFTT-50 Tampa
WLZE-65 FT Meyers
WOTF-43 Orlando

[P Smith]

Could you guys move LiL talk to other place, the thread about NATIONAL HD channels.
:backtotop

[Sixto]

The list says 73 HD networks but is there a way to tell what they actually are on that list ?

I only count 72 ?All identified now. DNS, CNM, NET, RSN, PTM. :)

[BigRedFan]

BigRedFan, any chance you are in an area with a local TFT channel and the channel number is a typo?

I found these locals in Florida

WAMI-69 Miami
WFTT-50 Tampa
WLZE-65 FT Meyers
WOTF-43 Orlando

The DTV Newsletter is a "national" newsletter reporting ONLY about national networks on DTV and sent out to all DTV subscribers receiving their DTV bill in the mail ... So, whether one lives in a TFT local market or not would not impact the new national HD channel line-up announced in the insert....

If it's a typo, as surmised by the Coca-Cola Kid, then the typo would refer to the national Channel 408 vs. the 74 announced, and not to a local TFT affiliate channel number..... We'll find out soon enough.....

[Coca Cola Kid]

The DTV Newsletter is a "national" newsletter reporting ONLY about national networks on DTV and sent out to all DTV subscribers receiving their DTV bill in the mail ... So, whether one lives in a TFT local market or not would not impact the new national HD channel line-up announced in the insert....

If it's a typo, as surmised by the Coca-Cola Kid, then the typo would refer to the national Channel 408 vs. the 74 announced, and not to a local TFT affiliate channel number..... We'll find out soon enough.....

There's no local stations on channel 74. The FCC reassigned the frequencies for former broadcast (OTA) channels 70-99 to cell phones back in the 80's.

[BigRedFan]

Could you guys move LiL talk to other place, the thread about NATIONAL HD channels.
:backtotop

DTV's announcement of TeleFutura-HD coming to Channel 74 in their national Programming Newsletter has nothing to do with LiL.... TF-HD is a national network, not a local channel.... The only post I can see here which could tie to LiL is Beerstalker's and he was simply wondering whether the national Channel 74 announcement could've been related to a local channel number typo... But he was responding to the national network announcement, not to any new Lil announcements....

So, if this thread is "about national HD channels" and since TF-HD is a national HD channel, especially one that has been announced by DTV to be added next month to Sixto's "HD Channels Listings", then I would argue that we are both in the correct thread.... Sixto's transponder uplink watch always lets us know when new HD channels are about to go live and we're simply now on the watch for this new one announced, just like many other HD's before this one.... Again, nothing to do with LiL's....

[Coca Cola Kid]

DTV's announcement of TeleFutura-HD coming to Channel 74 in their national Programming Newsletter has nothing to do with LiL.... TF-HD is a national network, not a local channel.... The only post I can see here which could tie to LiL is Beerstalker's and he was simply wondering whether the national Channel 74 announcement could've been related to a local channel number typo... But he was responding to the national network announcement, not to any new Lil announcements....

So, if this thread is "about national HD channels" and since TF-HD is a national HD channel, especially one that has been announced by DTV to be added next month to Sixto's "HD Channels Listings", then I would argue that we are both in the correct thread.... Sixto's transponder uplink watch always lets us know when new HD channels are about to go live and we're simply now on the watch for this new one announced, just like many other HD's before this one.... Again, nothing to do with LiL's....

wrong, Telefutura is an OTA network, just like NBC, ABC, CBS, FOX.

List of Telefutura affiliates (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Telefutura_affiliates)

[Sixto]

Still analyzing ...SIGNIFICANT Changes: NEW (added/moved) from 2010-05-11 compared to 2010-05-10:
NONE

SIGNIFICANT Changes: OLD (removed) from 2010-05-10 compared to 2010-05-11:
NONE

MINOR Changes: NEW (added/moved) from 2010-05-11 compared to 2010-05-10:
9723 *BIOHD PT D10 ?? 1010
9724 *CBSCHD PT D10 ?? 1020
9725 *FSDHD PT D10 ?? 1030
9726 *BRVOHD PT D10 ?? 1040
9727 *T101HD PT D10 ?? 1050
9728 *BTNHD PT D10 ?? 1010
9729 *TLCHD PT D10 ?? 1020
9730 *NESNHD PT D10 ?? 1030
9731 *MTVHD PT D10 ?? 1040
9732 *NIKeHD PT D10 ?? 1050
9733 *MGMHD PT D10 ?? 1010
9735 *PLDAHD PT D10 ?? 1030
9736 *NFLHD PT D10 ?? 1040
9737 *MAXeHD PT D10 ?? 1050
9738 *SMTHHD PT D10 ?? 1010
9739 *FBNHD PT D10 ?? 1020
9740 *FUELHD PT D10 ?? 1030
9741 *SPDHD PT D10 ?? 1040
9742 *CNeHD PT D10 ?? 1050
9743 *SyfyHD PT D10 ?? 1010
9744 *NBAHD PT D10 ?? 1020
9745 *FSPTHD PT D10 ?? 1030
9746 *FSSWHD PT D10 ?? 1040
9747 *SEDGHD PT D10 ?? 1050
9748 *TWCHD PT D10 ?? 1010
9749 *NGCHD PT D10 ?? 1020
9750 *FOODHD PT D10 ?? 1030
9751 *SCIHD PT D10 ?? 1040
9753 *STZwHD PT D10 ?? 1010
9754 *NHLHD PT D10 ?? 1020
9755 *STZCHD PT D10 ?? 1030
9757 *FSRMHD PT D10 ?? 1050
9758 *YESHD PT D10 ?? 1010
9759 *ESNHD PT D10 ?? 1020
9760 *SNYHD PT D10 ?? 1030
9761 *FXHD PT D10 ?? 1040
9762 *TMCeHD PT D10 ?? 1050
9773 *DSCHD PT D10 ?? 1010
9774 *CSNCHD PT D10 ?? 1020
9776 *SHOwHD PT D10 ?? 1040
9777 *TBSHD PT D10 ?? 1050
9778 *CSNHD PT D10 ?? 1010
9779 *DISeHD PT D10 ?? 1020
9780 *VSHD PT D10 ?? 1030
9781 *HGTVHD PT D10 ?? 1040
9782 *CMTHD PT D10 ?? 1050
9783 *APLHD PT D10 ?? 1010
9785 *STZeHD PT D10 ?? 1020
9787 *VH1HD PT D10 ?? 1040
9788 *MAXwHD PT D10 ?? 1050
9789 *USAHD PT D10 ?? 1010
9792 *CNBCHD PT D10 ?? 1040

MINOR Changes: OLD (removed) from 2010-05-10 compared to 2010-05-11:
9723 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1010
9724 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1020
9725 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1030
9726 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1040
9727 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1050
9728 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1010
9729 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1020
9730 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1030
9731 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1040
9732 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1050
9733 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1010
9735 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1030
9736 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1040
9737 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1050
9738 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1010
9739 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1020
9740 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1030
9741 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1040
9742 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1050
9743 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1010
9744 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1020
9745 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1030
9746 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1040
9747 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1050
9748 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1010
9749 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1020
9750 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1030
9751 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1040
9753 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1010
9754 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1020
9755 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1030
9757 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1050
9758 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1010
9759 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1020
9760 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1030
9761 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1040
9762 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1050
9773 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1010
9774 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1020
9776 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1040
9777 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1050
9778 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1010
9779 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1020
9780 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1030
9781 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1040
9782 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1050
9783 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1010
9785 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1020
9787 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1040
9788 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1050
9789 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1010
9792 *TEST PT D10 ?? 1040

Notes: 'MINOR Changes' is movement for part-time channels
1st column is channel number, 2nd column is channel name
3rd column is FT=Full-Time, PT=Part-time, RM=Remapped from Another Channel
4th column is Satellite, 5th column is transponder number
6th column is 'slot' number, 10xx: main, 1700: hold, 0000: unassigned

[Sixto]

Still analyzing ...All of today's changes are a direct map of the D10 14 national transponders. If you compare to the D10 map, it's exactly the same, except the Cinema are TEST, and SpikeTV along with transponders 9 and 10 are not mapped yet.

Nothing yet "new" in the data, which would be the two extra D12 transponders.

[doctor j]

With the testing of D-12 TPN's 103 CA looks like things may finally be starting to HAPPEN:hurah::hurah::hurah:

I suspect D-12 may be "parked" on next TLE!

Doctor j

[dcowboy7]

All identified now. DNS, CNM, NET, RSN, PTM. :)
Cool....thx.

The avs site doesnt count the 2 spanish channels as falling into the nationals group of tbs, tnt etc.

They say they fall into the cbs, abc, nbc, fox group.

Just wondering why they get counted as nationals here in the page 1 list ?

[Coca Cola Kid]

Cool....thx.

The avs site doesnt count the 2 spanish channels as falling into the nationals group of tbs, tnt etc.

They say they fall into the cbs, abc, nbc, fox group.

Just wondering why they get counted as nationals here in the page 1 list ?

Because they're available nationally on the same channel everywhere, as opposed to via local stations.

[Sixto]

Cool....thx.

The avs site doesnt count the 2 spanish channels as falling into the nationals group of tbs, tnt etc.

They say they fall into the cbs, abc, nbc, fox group.

Just wondering why they get counted as nationals here in the page 1 list ?Because they're national. :)

Would you suggest something different?

(hadn't noticed your edit earlier)

[Alan Gordon]

The avs site doesnt count the 2 spanish channels as falling into the nationals group of tbs, tnt etc.

They say they fall into the cbs, abc, nbc, fox group.

Just wondering why they get counted as nationals here in the page 1 list ?

Technically, Univision and Telefutura are broadcast networks (ala CBS, ABC, NBC, FOX, CW, etc.), but DirecTV apparently has a NATIONAL deal with them (ala ION) that allows them to offer these channels nationwide... so for the purpose of DirecTV subscribers, Univision (402) and Telefutura (408) are national channels.

However, in the case of the Official AVS National HD Channel Lineups list, it's kind of hard to count these channels as a national channel.... not to mention that it's very possible that any non-DirecTV subscriber would most likely be unaware of their "national" status on DirecTV.

~Alan

[BigRedFan]

wrong, Telefutura is an OTA network, just like NBC, ABC, CBS, FOX.

List of Telefutura affiliates (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Telefutura_affiliates)

You are correct that TF is an OTA network... That doesn't mean it's not also a "national" network.... It's a "national OTA network" in the same way that the Big 4 are national OTA networks (available in all 50 states over-the-air) but TF also differs in that it behaves as a "national basic cable network", ie. by providing silent ad cue tones every hour just like TBS, TNT, USA, etc. to its non-broadcast distributors such as DTV and filling in all commercial and promo breaks... plus hourly ID's identifying itself as a national cable service...

And it's also a "national" network in the sense that it provides national carriers, such as DTV, Dish, Fios, U-Verse, with a 24-hour continuous feed free of any local content or ever going to black (unlike the Big 4); this allows them to fill-in all the "white areas" (to reach 210 DMA's) where they do not have any local OTA affiliates.

DTV's presumed TF carriage on Ch. 74 is of the national TF feed, not the LiL feeds, which we also get additionally (on DTV) in TF local affiliate markets--- that was all I was trying to clear up...

By the way, thanks for the TF Affiliates List !.... provides good background to this issue....

[Coca Cola Kid]

You are correct that TF is an OTA network... That doesn't mean it's not also a "national" network.... It's a "national OTA network" in the same way that the Big 4 are national OTA networks (available in all 50 states over-the-air) but TF also differs in that it behaves as a "national basic cable network", ie. by providing silent ad cue tones every hour just like TBS, TNT, USA, etc. to its non-broadcast distributors such as DTV and filling in all commercial and promo breaks... plus hourly ID's identifying itself as a national cable service...

And it's also a "national" network in the sense that it provides national carriers, such as DTV, Dish, Fios, U-Verse, with a 24-hour continuous feed free of any local content or ever going to black (unlike the Big 4); this allows them to fill-in all the "white areas" (to reach 210 DMA's) where they do not have any local OTA affiliates.

DTV's presumed TF carriage on Ch. 74 is of the national TF feed, not the LiL feeds, which we also get additionally (on DTV) in TF local affiliate markets--- that was all I was trying to clear up...

By the way, thanks for the TF Affiliates List !.... provides good background to this issue....

The national feed of Telefutura is already in HD on 408, right next to all the other Spanish networks. It is not and will not be on 74, it was obviously a typo. Why do you find that so hard to accept?

[BigRedFan]

Technically, Univision and Telefutura are broadcast networks (ala CBS, ABC, NBC, FOX, CW, etc.), but DirecTV apparently has a NATIONAL deal with them (ala ION) that allows them to offer these channels nationwide... so for the purpose of DirecTV subscribers, Univision (402) and Telefutura (408) are national channels.

However, in the case of the Official AVS National HD Channel Lineups list, it's kind of hard to count these channels as a national channel.... not to mention that it's very possible that any non-DirecTV subscriber would most likely be unaware of their "national" status on DirecTV.

~Alan

DTV is not the only distributor carrying the national feeds of Univision and TeleFutura..... They're also available on DISH, Fios, U-Verse, and hundreds of cable systems serving DMA's where there are no Univision or TeleFutura broadcast affiliates.....It's how they cover all 210 DMA's....

The same thing occurs with Telemundo, Azteca America and Estrella TV, the other national Spanish-language OTA networks....As well as the non-Spanish TBN, ION, HSN, and Jewelry TV---- also "hybrid" national OTA networks...

Unlike Sixto's DTV Channel Listings here, the AVS Channel Lineup is not being consistent in the criteria it is using to exclude the Spanish-language national networks from its list.....It excludes them on the basis that they are "broadcast" networks, yet it still lists the non-Spanish "broadcast" networks of TBN, HSN, and Jewelry TV---I get these 3 OTA here as well as nationally on satellite...

I don't believe they yet understand that you can be both--- a broadcast OTA network and a national cable network at the same time.... Their list should be objective in reflecting carriage of the national cable versions of these hybrid services--- such as Univision, TF, and the others listed here.. It is a disservice to anyone looking at their List to apply these arbitrary exclusions...

It just makes no sense to exclude any national channel carried by DTV (and others) simply on the basis of an outdated network definition criteria dated to the 1950's....

[BigRedFan]

The national feed of Telefutura is already in HD on 408, right next to all the other Spanish networks. It is not and will not be on 74, it was obviously a typo. Why do you find that so hard to accept?

TeleFutura has 3 national HD feeds (East, West, and Mountain); DTV only carries the West feed on Ch. 408....Channel 74 can be a feed other than the one DTV is carrying on Ch. 408, just like they do with ION-East (305) and ION-West (347) which are not placed next to each other ...

I don't find anything hard to accept.... I'm just giving DTV the benefit of the doubt that their Newsletter may just be correct as announced.... Has DTV announced that this TF announcement is a typo, as you say ?

[Sixto]

All of today's changes are a direct map of the D10 14 national transponders. If you compare to the D10 map, it's exactly the same, except the Cinema are TEST, and SpikeTV along with transponders 9 and 10 are not mapped yet.

Nothing yet "new" in the data, which would be the two extra D12 transponders.Today, they added the mapping for D10 transponders 9 and 10, which was missing yesterday (per above). SIGNIFICANT Changes: NEW (added/moved) from 2010-05-12 compared to 2010-05-11:
158 CINEHD FT D11 4 1700 <------ 158 CINEHD FT D11 4 1040

SIGNIFICANT Changes: OLD (removed) from 2010-05-11 compared to 2010-05-12:
NONE

MINOR Changes: NEW (added/moved) from 2010-05-12 compared to 2010-05-11:
124 PPV PT D11 4 1040 <------ 124 PPV PT D11 4 1700
9690 *MSG+HD PT D10 ?? 1010
9691 *DTV PT D10 ?? 1020
9692 *SHO2HD PT D10 ?? 1030
9693 *HBOwHD PT D10 ?? 1040
9694 *HISTHD PT D10 ?? 1050
9695 *A&EHD PT D10 ?? 1010
9696 *FSWHD PT D10 ?? 1020
9697 *STZKHD PT D10 ?? 1030
9698 *DTV PT D10 ?? 1040
9699 *CNNHD PT D10 ?? 1050

MINOR Changes: OLD (removed) from 2010-05-11 compared to 2010-05-12:
746 MLBHD RM D11 2 1700

Notes: 'MINOR Changes' is movement for part-time channels
1st column is channel number, 2nd column is channel name
3rd column is FT=Full-Time, PT=Part-time, RM=Remapped from Another Channel
4th column is Satellite, 5th column is transponder number
6th column is 'slot' number, 10xx: main, 1700: hold, 0000: unassignedAnd still have 10 slots open for the extra two transponders:D10 ?? PT 9763 *TEST 1010 UnknownTP=12 engJ"R!*{["xtv:2355.ch]
D10 ?? PT 9764 *TEST 1020 UnknownTP=12 !"eng!O"R!/LlAjH12tv:3526.ch!#
D10 ?? PT 9765 *TEST 1030 UnknownTP=12 012eng1O"R!/LlAjH12tv:3527.ch!i
D10 ?? PT 9766 *TEST 1040 UnknownTP=12 @ABengAP"R!0LlAjH12tv:3528.ch!
D10 ?? PT 9767 *TEST 1050 UnknownTP=12 PQRengQP"R!0LlAjH12tv:3529.ch"

D10 ?? PT 9768 *TEST 1010 UnknownTP=13 engN"R!.LlAjH2D tv:3641.chk
D10 ?? PT 9769 *TEST 1020 UnknownTP=13 !"eng!O"R!/LlAjH2Betv:3530.ch
D10 ?? PT 9770 *TEST 1030 UnknownTP=13 012eng1N"R!.LlAjH2Bftv:3577.ch
D10 ?? PT 9771 *TEST 1040 UnknownTP=13 @ABengAO"R!/LlAjH2Bhtv:3578.ch!
D10 ?? PT 9772 *TEST 1050 UnknownTP=13 PQRengQO"R!/LlAjH2Bktv:3579.ch![

[P Smith]

Sixto, those a few chunks of data are just "eng" language descriptors, like "PQRengQO"R!/LlAjH2Bk" , nothing significant.

[Sixto]

Sixto, those a few chunks of data are just "eng" language descriptors, like "PQRengQO"R!/LlAjH2Bk" , nothing significant.Correct. That data sometimes contains clues to future channels.

I track it (for changes), others can ignore it. :)