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OK, I understand about the receivers being leased (most of them) but how about the dish proper? My next door neighbors are moving away and taking their receiver with them but leaving the dish on the house (house won't be sold for a while). I reminded them they were forgetting the dish and offered to take it down, but they told me DTV told them to "just leave it behind" and they would get a new one after the move. They told me I could have it (Slimline 5), and while it would be nice to have a spare for my system I don't want to be stealing it. So who does the dish belong to in a case like this? Does DTV just consider them expendable?
Someone else might have to clarify on exact ownership, I truly do not know.
But, with the movers connection you just take your receivers. Directv sets up a new dish/multiswitches/etc. at the new house to feed your receivers as part of the movers connection. This also allows the old equipment to stay at the old house so a new owner might be more bias to hookup to Directv and it will not have to be reinstalled at the house, just new receivers hooked up.
veryoldschool
02-28-10, 07:27 PM
Does DTV just consider them expendable?
For the most part: "yes"
If you have a bad one, you've got to pay for the service call to replace it, or pay for the protection plan to cover it.
RobertE
02-28-10, 07:32 PM
The dish, once "installed" on or in the customers property, it becomes property of the homeowner.
To take things a bit further, in more and more states, anything that is affixed to the house in a "permanent" state is also part of the house proper. Such items are wall mounted tvs and chandeliers.
joe diamond
02-28-10, 07:38 PM
The dish is theirs to give...just caulk the holes if you take down the mast. Coil the cabel back to the ground block so it doesn't get mowed or cut off by the painters etc. The elevation and tilt settings should be good for your address so you just have to tune the azimuth (compass direction).
Joe
dpeters11
02-28-10, 07:59 PM
The dish is theirs to give...just caulk the holes if you take down the mast. Coil the cabel back to the ground block so it doesn't get mowed or cut off by the painters etc. The elevation and tilt settings should be good for your address so you just have to tune the azimuth (compass direction).
Joe
Not necessarily. Like Robert said, it's attached and could actually be included in the sale. It might actually be in the sale documents that anything attached to the house is to transfer to the new owners.
rudeney
02-28-10, 08:23 PM
Not necessarily. Like Robert said, it's attached and could actually be included in the sale. It might actually be in the sale documents that anything attached to the house is to transfer to the new owners.
Yep, items such as windows, doors, doorknobs, commodes, wired-in lighting, shutters, satellite dishes, antennas and even wall-mounted televisions are considered "fixtures" and are transferred with the house unless they are specifically excluded by contract.
Not necessarily. Like Robert said, it's attached and could actually be included in the sale. It might actually be in the sale documents that anything attached to the house is to transfer to the new owners.
The OP said there was no sale likely for a while. This means no sale documents. The sale contract may specify that anything attached to the house is transferred, but if the object is removed prior to entry into the contract?!?
When buying a house, definitely specify things you want to remain in the offer/contract. Otherwise, expensive light fixtures you think are staying with the house may be replaced with cheap ones by the time the sale closes and you move in.
dpeters11
02-28-10, 08:33 PM
The OP said there was no sale likely for a while. This means no sale documents. The sale contract may specify that anything attached to the house is transferred, but if the object is removed prior to entry into the contract?!?
When buying a house, definitely specify things you want to remain in the offer/contract. Otherwise, expensive light fixtures you think are staying with the house may be replaced with cheap ones by the time the sale closes and you move in.
Oops, you're right. Didn't see that part. I'd think that means no problem then.
Good idea on the contract. When I bought my house, the biggest problem was that the key didn't work, but turned out for the best, they had to pay for a locksmith to rekey everything.
Yep,...even wall-mounted televisions are considered "fixtures" and are transferred with the house unless they are specifically excluded by contract.
For old-fashioned CRTs on hangers, I would take the TV and leave the bracket. For a new-fangled flat panel, I would treat it as a picture, take it down and patch the holes.
Oops, you're right. Didn't see that part. I'd think that means no problem then.
Good idea on the contract. When I bought my house, the biggest problem was that the key didn't work, but turned out for the best, they had to pay for a locksmith to rekey everything.
Not to turn this into a home buying/selling thread, but also make sure you get a thorough home ispection before you buy. Make sure the guy gets up on the roof and looks for things like caulked in screw holes from removed satellite dishes!
Yoda-DBSguy
03-01-10, 03:08 AM
Not necessarily. Like Robert said, it's attached and could actually be included in the sale. It might actually be in the sale documents that anything attached to the house is to transfer to the new owners.
If the owners are saying that he could simply take/have the dishj; then it's obviously NOT in any pending sale. Expecially since he stated the house will NOT be sold for a while in his origional post.
I would suggest that if you do take the dish, leave the mounting plate. That way you don't have to caulk holes or end up assuming responsibility for a leak. You indicate it would be a spare, so you already have a mount for a Slimline.
Many thanks for the prompt responses - in my haste to post I neglected to mention how helpful these forums have been in my "education" of all things DTV and how much I have learned just from listening to the pros - perhaps I can be a little more active in my participation now! I'm sure I can find something to rant about . . . . . . :lol:
So it sounds like I'm OK to take the homeowner up on his offer to remove the dish. There is no contract or otherwise pending sale on the house; they are planning to do some repairs before listing it for sale. The dish is just mounted to a vertical wood support post for their deck, so no issues with potential roof leaks, etc. I can reach it with a small stepladder. I'll be sure to fill the screwholes and neatly dress the cables as suggested.
Prior to accepting an offer of sale and purchase (a contract), a homeowner can legally sell or give away (transfer) any object attached to or mounted upon the structure or attached to the grounds.
Years ago, prior to moving due to a pending foreclosure, I sold a 150' split-rail fence right out of the ground :sure:
johnson1995
03-01-10, 10:26 AM
When I left E* for D* I had to remove the LNB and ship it back with the receivers. I don't know if this is the case with D*.
bobnielsen
03-01-10, 10:37 AM
When I left E* for D* I had to remove the LNB and ship it back with the receivers. I don't know if this is the case with D*.
When I switched from Dish in 2003, they didn't want anything back (my receivers were owned).
I've seen posts that Dish sometimes requires LNB's to be returned. DirecTV has never required that.
In my neighbor hood... a lot of the dishes (either D* or E*) are mounted on the roofs... removing them might lead to leaks...
curt8403
03-01-10, 04:14 PM
In my neighbor hood... a lot of the dishes (either D* or E*) are mounted on the roofs... removing them might lead to leaks...
Bishop's Tape or Tar Sealant.
VLaslow
03-01-10, 07:58 PM
When my son moved from Arizona, I told him to take the dish. It was affixed to his side wall. Down it came and up it went out here. That house in Arizona has since been sold. Not a problem.
amorse2183
03-01-10, 08:38 PM
you can negotiate anything into the final selling price of a home, especially things like the washing machine, fridge, etc. my mother is in the process of selling my childhood home and they are even negotiating the price of the swimming pool in the back yard.
bigmike200587
03-02-10, 10:55 AM
I Work at D* the dish belongs to the customer. The only thing being leased is the Reciever, Access Card, Powerplug. Everything else is owned.
Doug Brott
03-02-10, 12:42 PM
I Work at D* the dish belongs to the customer. The only thing being leased is the Reciever, Access Card, Powerplug. Everything else is owned.
Remote?
veryoldschool
03-02-10, 12:46 PM
Remote?
You need the PP for a free replacement. [OK I got one free without it but...]
bigmike200587
03-02-10, 02:58 PM
Remote?
Yes you own the remote, cables multi switch everything. Just the receiver,card and power cable need to be sent back.
joe diamond
03-02-10, 04:12 PM
Not necessarily. Like Robert said, it's attached and could actually be included in the sale. It might actually be in the sale documents that anything attached to the house is to transfer to the new owners.
You are correct and I stand corrected. It IS attached and neither Directv nor installers like me can just go retrieve it.
The homeowner can convey the dish or give it away.
Joe
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