What is needed to share a receiver in two different locations?

[ThePrisoner]

I have a HR21-700 in my living room along with a D12-700 in my kitchen. My wife & I are thinking of adding a TV out in our patio area. Would it be possible to run HD out there off my HR21 if I purcahse an HDTV? Or easier to run off my D12? What would I need to accomplish this?

Thanks!

[Davenlr]

You dont say how far the run is, but 5 75ohm coax cables bundled together, three for video, two for audio, connected to the component out/analog out of your HR21 would work, as would HDMI. Whichever one you are not using for the tv in the living room. All outputs are always active. To change channels, you would need either a IR repeater, or if you are lucky, RF remote might reach.

[mrfatboy]

I have seen hdmi splitters. Does anybody know if they would work?

[ThePrisoner]

The run would be at least 100ft from my HR21. Shorter from my D12.

[Davenlr]

Considering the cost to run video 100', it would probably be much less expensive to just add a third receiver with one coax run to the patio. It would take a lot of $5/mo additional receiver fees to cover the cost of a splitter and 100' HDMI cable, or even 500' of coax and connectors to run component out there. With MRV, you can watch the recorded shows on the Living Room DVR that way.

I have seen some new HD video wireless transmitters, but dont know how well they work.

There is also the slingbox method if you have ethernet out there.

[D-Bamatech]

I have a HR21-700 in my living room along with a D12-700 in my kitchen. My wife & I are thinking of adding a TV out in our patio area. Would it be possible to run HD out there off my HR21 if I purcahse an HDTV? Or easier to run off my D12? What would I need to accomplish this?

Thanks!

Easiest and cheapest? (*if HD is not necessity)

back of the D-12: (do not diplex HD wire feed)
From "tv out" rf on D-12 - connect/ place diplexer on "sat in" cable ANd also "out to tv" connection of sat ird. (read on ports of diplexer)
Re-find same d-12 coax outside from dish or underneath and diplex again.
Run wire from diplexer to patio location/TV.
Done! ;)
( w/ 2 diplexers and a little wire/ few connectors)

= Kitchen and patio show same thing and its a do it yourself deal with little change spent.
AND no 5$ per month per D* incurred. ;)



Here: (pic)
**Where this pic says " off air power supply".
That will be YOUR patio TV so to speak. (disregard all ref to off air ant in this diagram)
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Hint: when using diplexers the single port(s) will point at each other while in line.

[ThePrisoner]

^^^ Thanks. I'm trying to understand the diagram which looks fairly simple. Looks like I'll be printing that. Thank you. I really don't want a leased receiver out there because come fall/winter I'll be back in the house and do not need another box in there either.

[D-Bamatech]

^^^ Thanks. I'm trying to understand the diagram which looks fairly simple. Looks like I'll be printing that. Thank you. I really don't want a leased receiver out there because come fall/winter I'll be back in the house and do not need another box in there either.

Here:
visualize this pic with the diagram , read port descriptions
(and my hint so you dont talk to yourself too much ;). = Single ports face each other when inline.)
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Your Cost 2- 3 bucks a piece.

Also remember if the "patio" is "open" consider pulling the tv in and out of the hm on a stand ( wheeled even).
or It WILL BE sooner or later
"Moisture Killed the video star" :eek2:

[carl6]

Can you run a coax cable from your D12 receiver to the outside location that you want to have a TV at? If so, forget the diagram and just run a single coax run. Plug one end into the channel 3/4 output of the D12. Plug the other end into the antenna input connector on your outside TV. Tune the TV to channel 3/4 and presto, you will be watching the D12.

If you can't easily run that coax, then you can piggy back onto the coax that is going from the dish to the D12. That is (more or less) what the diagram is trying to show. Using two diplexers, you can share a common piece of coax for both the signal from the dish to the D12, and for the TV signal from the D12 to the remote TV. In the illustration provided, forget the TV antenna and the TV by the satellite receiver. Run a coax from the channel 3/4 output of the D12 to the "antenna" side of the diplexer (where the TV is shown as being connected). At the other end, run the coax from the "antenna" side of the diplexer to the outside TV set.

[dsw2112]

I have a HR21-700 in my living room along with a D12-700 in my kitchen. My wife & I are thinking of adding a TV out in our patio area. Would it be possible to run HD out there off my HR21 if I purcahse an HDTV? Or easier to run off my D12? What would I need to accomplish this?

Thanks!

Just to bring the discussion back to your original post; you mentioned wanting to run HD to the patio, is that right? If so, the only options to get that done are installing an additional HD receiver on the patio, or running HDMI/component cables from your HR21. Feeding a signal via coax from the boxes will not result in the HD you are seeking. Personally, I would echo the poster above that said to add an additional HD box on the patio. You can find owned units where you can activate for seasonal use; I think you'll find this to be a cost-effective and more functional option.

[CJTE]

Just to bring the discussion back to your original post; you mentioned wanting to run HD to the patio, is that right? If so, the only options to get that done are installing an additional HD receiver on the patio, or running HDMI/component cables from your HR21. Feeding a signal via coax from the boxes will not result in the HD you are seeking. Personally, I would echo the poster above that said to add an additional HD box on the patio...

I believe the reference to coax cables was with RCA Connectors on them for Component.... 5 cables, Y/Pb/Pr/W/R

[dsw2112]

I believe the reference to coax cables was with RCA Connectors on them for Component.... 5 cables, Y/Pb/Pr/W/R

You might want to re-read a few of the above posts -- several are clearly not referring to component cables, and anything run from the D12 will not be in HD.

[wallybarthman]

I have a HR21-700 in my living room along with a D12-700 in my kitchen. My wife & I are thinking of adding a TV out in our patio area. Would it be possible to run HD out there off my HR21 if I purcahse an HDTV? Or easier to run off my D12? What would I need to accomplish this?

Thanks!

Here's what I would do:

There are HDMI splitters that really work - we use them at the church were I am to send the same signal to a projector and a TV. Buy one of those and a good quality HDMI cable. Monoprice would be my choice as they sell both items and I've had really good luck with both of them. Don't skimp on the HDMI cable though - buy a good quality one.

Component will work - but it'll be annoying because component is so darn hard to work with. I ran 25 feet of the stuff between my downstairs and upstairs and it's very heavy.

I picked up a relatively inexpensive Terk IR transmitter for controlling my receiver in another room and it works quite nicely.

It'll be pricey, but it's a one time cost.

[ThePrisoner]

You can find owned units where you can activate for seasonal use; I think you'll find this to be a cost-effective and more functional option.

I did not know this. Thank you.

[forecheck]

While it may cost more and would require a contract extension, I would replace the D12 in the kitchen with a H23, then run the HDMI cable from that. Since it appears the kitchen TV isn't high def, you can use the same wiring for that as currently use from the receiver. Not sure if you would need a remote extender though.

[CJTE]

You might want to re-read a few of the above posts -- several are clearly not referring to component cables, and anything run from the D12 will not be in HD.

YOU may want to re-read a few of the above posts. Especially Davenlnr's.
Thats for HD.
A few of the other posts cited that if HD wasn't necessary there are options with the D12.
You said there's you can't feed HD over Coax cables, now I'm telling you, you're wrong.

[D-Bamatech]

You said there's no way to push HD over Coax cables, now I'm telling you, you're wrong.

rca connectors and coax :)
In Bars ect we use it sometimes and theres only 3 cbls to run due the sound is usually ALOT closer than the monitors. ( less $$$ w/ the Rg-6)

I guess.
Say Balun and see what "they" say next. :lol:
Cat 5 for HD? (one jacket/one wire)
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How fancy and how much do you want to spend? (may alternatives to scenario)
BUT IMO:
The D-12 and the DIplex is the easy way out for the Seasonal function.
I bet the existing cbl In the kitchen is out of a wall plate and was "pre-wire" too! ( Sooo...run a cbl from TV out on d-12 to new location?= For what!)

2 jumpers to IRD/d-12 out of the diplexer
2 diplexers
and ONLY One cut n fit (diplexer) on the existing cbl from dish??
Done!!
AND the best part:
no white vans OR Illegal "contractors" and/or Underpaid OR UNPAID KIDS armed with Drills hiding behind the words of "Professional installation"
(too funny! :lol:)

[Groundhog45]

There was another thread similar to this a few weeks ago. Here's what I posted there about an HDMI splitter. (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?p=2364243#post2364243) That thread also mentions running HDMI over cat5 or cat6 using adapters (baluns) and is a good read. I'm very pleased with the HDMI splitter I have. (Note, the Monoprice web site is temporarily down for maintenance)

[dsw2112]

YOU may want to re-read a few of the above posts. Especially Davenlnr's.
Thats for HD.
A few of the other posts cited that if HD wasn't necessary there are options with the D12.
You said there's you can't feed HD over Coax cables, now I'm telling you, you're wrong.

No need to get argumentative, it appears we're looking at different things. While you were referring to Davenlr's post I was referring to Carl6 and D-Bama's posts (only one of which mentioned lack of HD with their method.) You are correct that you can get HD via component (I actually suggested it in my original post), but their posts were clearly referring to RG coax and not component... Since the tone of your response makes it apparent that you need to be correct here; we'll say I'm in the wrong... In the end this isn't helping the OP find a solution so
:backtotop

[nightrider]

i bought a hdmi splitter from japan , paid 80 us shipped , my dishnet hd reciever works well but the directv h23 will not so i had to use component video cables , i got a 35 foot run to the upstiars tv and that component video picture looks washed up , i would love to no why i can't split the directv h23 reciever with hdmi , but it works for dish

[nightrider]

sorry it is not a splitter its a switcher

[chevyguy559]

There was another thread similar to this a few weeks ago. Here's what I posted there about an HDMI splitter. (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?p=2364243#post2364243) That thread also mentions running HDMI over cat5 or cat6 using adapters (baluns) and is a good read. I'm very pleased with the HDMI splitter I have. (Note, the Monoprice web site is temporarily down for maintenance)

This is exactly what I did (HDMI over Cat5) from www.monoprice.com for $19.95.....works GREAT! I have a DVR in my garage and splitting the HDMI signal to my tv in the garage and a tv in my son's room....I'd link to it but the site is down :(

[ThePrisoner]

I heard about HDMI over Cat6 from HD Nation which is a podcast I watch every week. I'm going to look into that.

You've all been a big help. Thank you! :D

P.S. I'm going to have to print his thread, I plan on doing this project in the next couple months.

[nightrider]

if you own a h23-600 it is ,,,HDCP content protection H23-600 you cannot view or split hdmi signals , are all directv hd recievers hdcp , this sucks i guess i'm stuck with component video

[carl6]

No need to get argumentative, it appears we're looking at different things. While you were referring to Davenlr's post I was referring to Carl6 and D-Bama's posts (only one of which mentioned lack of HD with their method.) You are correct that you can get HD via component (I actually suggested it in my original post), but their posts were clearly referring to RG coax and not component... Since the tone of your response makes it apparent that you need to be correct here; we'll say I'm in the wrong... In the end this isn't helping the OP find a solution so
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I agree I did not specifically mention SD only, however in referring to all of the connections being to/from the D12 receiver I felt it was obvious.

As to component over RG6, you most certainly can run component over RG6. You just need 3 of them (for video) plus two (for stereo audio). Works very well, especially over longer distances than normal component video cable would work. But I think we all agree that isn't what the original poster was looking for.