Refresh my memory on ESPN blackout rules.

[mcss1985]

Ok, now I'm peeved. I realize this isn't anything new, and I think I already knew about it, but I guess I just forgot.

Waiting all day (waiting for almost 6 months really) for Opening Night game with Yanks and Sox on ESPN. I'm watching Baseball Tonight and 8:00 finally gets here and my TV turns black and says I can't watch this game because of the area I live in. So now I'm sitting here watching "minute to win it" (ehh) trying to figure out how I can watch the game (I know all the options, and may pursue some just not tonight)

So I guess my question is what's the official rule about this? I know about all the other blackouts, but I remember it being kinda screwy with ESPN last year.
I thought it was like Sunday and Monday were not blacked out, but Wednesday was blacked out (obviously only if a team in your market was playing (which happens a lot when the Yankees are in your market)).
Anyone know exactly what the deal is?

Thanks for any info and letting my vent:)

[sigma1914]

If you're in NY, then turn on YES.

[mcss1985]

umm, and how exactly do you propose I do that on DishNetwork?

[paja]

If you're in NY, then turn on YES.

DISH has YES??

[Slamminc11]

Dish never had yes, doesn't have yes, and probably never will have yes until the steinbrenners no longer own the yankees and or Charlie doesn't own Dish.
If you are a yankee fan and you have Dish, then you are S.O.L. to watch them when yes has the game...

[sigma1914]

umm, and how exactly do you propose I do that on DishNetwork?

My bad...I didn't see this was under the Dish sub forum. My apologies.

[mcss1985]

Dish never had yes, doesn't have yes, and probably never will have yes until the steinbrenners no longer own the yankees and or Charlie doesn't own Dish.
If you are a yankee fan and you have Dish, then you are S.O.L. to watch them when yes has the game...

I'm not a Yankees fan. I'm a baseball fan who was really looking forward to watching Opening Night because it it being broadcast on a national sports channel that I get (ESPN). I know Dish doesn't have and probably never will have YES and I can accept that. I just don't see how they can black out a game that I don't get on any channel from my provider that is in my home market. But that's not really the point of the thread. We've been down that road plenty of times and don't need to go down there again.

I'm just wondering which games will be blacked out on ESPN in the future. I didn't realize this national game on ESPN was even being broadcast on YES (I guess it is and that explains it), but I thought that usually Sunday Night games were only on ESPN, not the rsn.

P.S. just looked at guide and apparently it is on NESN too. Obviously I don't get NESN, but evidently the game is for some reason on rsn's tonight.

[sigma1914]

Since you love baseball, have you considered Directv & MLBEI or MLB.TV streamed on a Ruku or PC?

[mcss1985]

My bad...I didn't see this was under the Dish sub forum. My apologies.

No problem man. After I replied, I saw your had MLBIE and realized you had Direct and figured that was the confusion.

Enjoy the game:)

[mcss1985]

Since you love baseball, have you considered Directv & MLBEI or MLB.TV streamed on a Ruku or PC?

Yes, like I said I know about the other options and have considered them. I don't feel its necessary for me to do anything like that yet as I am really a Mets fan and I get all the games on E* on SNY. It is aggrevating, not getting to watch other games, but usually its not that big of a deal. Just being Opening Night, I was planning on watching it tonight and hadn't even thought about the YES thing.

Plus now that I have a new laptop, I'm going to wait for MLB to have a MLB.TV trial like they did last year a few times and I'll connect laptop to TV so see how I like that.


P.S. I was just checking out MLB.TV website and even that would not be an alternative for me. Since I'm in NY, Yankees and Mets games are blacked out there too.
So the bottom line is without paying for 2 different TV providers, there is absolutely no way for a E* subscriber in NY to watch a Yankees game that is on YES.

[Slamminc11]

...So the bottom line is without paying for 2 different TV providers, there is absolutely no way for a E* subscriber in NY to watch a Yankees game that is on YES.

Gotta love King George! :nono2:

[sigma1914]

Gotta love King George! :nono2:

I do. He spent his money and gets results...Championships. Now, his sons are succeeding in his footsteps.

[shadough]

If a game is blacked out, that means that either a.) The broadcaster of said game doesnt not have national rights and cannot show you the game outside of its Designated Market Area, or b.) The game is already available on some other local channel or R.S.N. local to you.

[mcss1985]

Ok now I'm really confused.

How is it that if a Yankees game in on ESPN (or any other network) and also on YES than I can't watch it. But the Mets game tonight is on ESPN and SNY and I can watch either channel because E* actually gets SNY.

If you are gonna screw us shouldn't you at least be consistent?;) Is there something special about YES, besides the fact that E* refuses to pay to carry it?

[James Long]

Ok now I'm really confused.

How is it that if a Yankees game in on ESPN (or any other network) and also on YES than I can't watch it. But the Mets game tonight is on ESPN and SNY and I can watch either channel because E* actually gets SNY.

If you are gonna screw us shouldn't you at least be consistent?;) Is there something special about YES, besides the fact that E* refuses to pay to carry it?
If YES has the exclusive broadcast rights for where you are YES is the only channel that can deliver that game to you ... regardless of if you can get YES or not.

Apparently the Mets game isn't exclusive to SNY in your area?

[coldsteel]

Ok now I'm really confused.

How is it that if a Yankees game in on ESPN (or any other network) and also on YES than I can't watch it. But the Mets game tonight is on ESPN and SNY and I can watch either channel because E* actually gets SNY.

If you are gonna screw us shouldn't you at least be consistent?;) Is there something special about YES, besides the fact that E* refuses to pay to carry it?

That's exactly the case. Steinbrenner wants $X per sub, Charlie refuses to pay that much per sub. Nothing fancy, just greedy vs cheap.

[mcss1985]

That's exactly the case. Steinbrenner wants $X per sub, Charlie refuses to pay that much per sub. Nothing fancy, just greedy vs cheap.

This may be too much of a simplistic suggestion, but couldn't Charlie just charge $X for YES and the people that want it could buy it? (similar to the superstations like WPIX and WWROX)

[coldsteel]

This may be too much of a simplistic suggestion, but couldn't Charlie just charge $X for YES and the people that want it could buy it? (similar to the superstations like WPIX and WWROX)

Not without YES agreeing to it. And that'd never happen. They want every sub with the 120 Plus and higher to see them in the NYC area.

[James Long]

This may be too much of a simplistic suggestion, but couldn't Charlie just charge $X for YES and the people that want it could buy it? (similar to the superstations like WPIX and WWROX)
I believe from previous discussions YES wanted to be included in the lowest package (currently called America's Top 120). DISH places RSNs in their second lowest package (America's Top 120+ includes RSNs). YES wants DISH to pay them for EVERY subscriber - not offer it a la carte or in a less than the lowest package.

(DirecTV doesn't have the problem because their lowest package includes local RSNs. DirecTV's lowest package is comparable to DISH's America's Top 200 package.)