View Full Version : Location ID
Sandman
08-13-03, 03:00 PM
When viewing the info screen there is a line called Location ID, what is this, ? I did a search and saw where someone mentioned that if you had more than 1 receiver they would both have the same location ID, well I have more than one and they do not have the same id
Bob
sampatterson
08-13-03, 03:12 PM
Actually the location id varies per machine and it changes pretty regularly. It is used by the Dish "Security" department to verify when activating multiple receivers (4+) to make sure they are physically at the same address. The Security department comes on the line and makes you go to each receiver and read its ID at that moment. So if you have "shared" receivers with neighbors or friends across the country, you won't be able to tell them the Location ids right then and there. I heard recently that this also was going to be coded to reflect spot beam. So by reading back the code they would know if one of your receivers was in a different area than it was supposed to be.
Jacob S
08-13-03, 04:26 PM
You mean they will have been able to tell if you had the receiver in a different spot beam before at one time even if you have it at your house now all at the same location when they ask for location ID? What if you travel with your system? I thought that was allowed? Or do you mean when you call in and have them all at the same location that they know which spot beam you are under and if you have them all at the same place that you have told them on your physical address? What about other spot beams that cross over other ones? Wouldnt that cause a problem?
Jacob if you aren't cheating on the system you should have nothing to worry about the ids will all be correct. Beside you have to be connecting at least 4 receivers without phone lines connected to have to worry about the security being checked.
Also with the location ID, if you check it and it is 000000001 then you have been hit for piracy.
Also with the location ID, if you check it and it is 000000001 then you have been hit for piracy.
Does that mean your ird won't work or are you just suspected or something?
grassvalley
08-14-03, 10:46 AM
You will only get that if you are stealing the service. It'll totally disable the receiver. You aren't supposed travel with your systen unless you tell Dishnetwork and get pernission to attach the system onto a camper/van.
Keep everything legal and you won't have any problems
Does that mean your ird won't work or are you just suspected or something?
Geronimo
08-14-03, 08:15 PM
Traveling is not allowed per the residential agreement. It is done all the time and they look the other way but it is a violation.
Mike D-CO5
08-14-03, 10:53 PM
Its your receiver to do what you will , you paid for it didin't you? Besides some people have two homes with sat dishes on both of them and they just take the receiver with them when they go to the other home. Charlie does this very thing and says so. Others have rvs and get distant nets because of it, but Dish gives them locals on all their receivers not just the one in the rv. It's all about the money $$$$ . Dish doesn't care as long as they get paid.
P Smith
08-15-03, 12:51 AM
I was read somewhere - the LID just a scrambled your receiver number and local current date.
Is it true ?
Dealers nemesis
08-15-03, 02:05 PM
It changes just about everytime you go into your information screen.
Its your receiver to do what you will , you paid for it didin't you? Not quite. Not only is DISH out to protect itself from signal theft but there are laws in place against account stacking and use in areas other that within the United States & it's territories.
Most subscribers with 4 or more receivers do not own them but lease them.
Again, just be "legal" and use common sense & you won't have any problems.
P Smith
08-18-03, 02:57 PM
It changes just about everytime you go into your information screen.
I guess "everytime" mean once per day - why do you need to check it often ?
Let me make sure I understand.
This would only be a problem if you have receviers in use at diffrent locations. IE my real home and my parents home.
What about same property diffrent building.
Like lets say a barn converted into an office/play room.
After it was renovated we reactivaited an old receiver so we had dish net in the play room.
I looked over my agreement and I think I am ok.
I definitly wasnt going to pay for service as a seperate location its all on the same property.
Bobby94928
08-18-03, 04:10 PM
Let me make sure I understand.
This would only be a problem if you have receviers in use at diffrent locations. IE my real home and my parents home.
What about same property different building.
Like lets say a barn converted into an office/play room.
After it was renovated we reactivaited an old receiver so we had dish net in the play room.
I looked over my agreement and I think I am ok.
I definitly wasnt going to pay for service as a seperate location its all on the same property.
I'd say if you were using the same dish to feed both buildings they wouldn't have a leg to stand on. Now, if you were using the same dish to feed a property next to you, that's a whole 'nother ballgame. :)
P Smith
08-20-03, 11:39 AM
I'd say if you were using the same dish to feed both buildings they wouldn't have a leg to stand on. Now, if you were using the same dish to feed a property next to you, that's a whole 'nother ballgame. :)
Looks wrong - the dish(s) and cabling, switch are your property,
Dish shouldn't have any concern about that, you'd pay the money ! They support only your record in account database - that's it.
johnsmith22
08-20-03, 12:59 PM
My guess is if its on the same property one dish or two dishes makes no difference it would be one subscription.
scooper
08-20-03, 01:10 PM
Bobby94928 - number of dishes is irrelavant. There are single HOUSES that more than one dish is a requirement. What matters is that all HOUSEHOLDS are their exclusive use -
Looks wrong - the dish(s) and cabling, switch are your property,
Dish shouldn't have any concern about that, you'd pay the money ! They support only your record in account database - that's it.The dish(s), cables & switches are you property if you're not a DHP (leasing) customer and have fulfilled all the obligations (if any) you entered into to get it.
But the "Smart Card," the access card that authorizes your programming is not your property. Just look on it and see.
Account stacking and signal theft are against the rules and against the law regardless of whether you own the hardware.
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