View Full Version : Dish answers more of your technical questions...
Scott Greczkowski
08-15-03, 09:22 AM
As you may have seen some of Dish Networks top technical guys have answered YOUR questions in the thread found at http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=17394
Many of you had some follow up questions to their answers and the Great Tech Guys from Echostar have answered some of your questions.
So now here we go.
Regarding the Dish 6000 and DishPro
First the Model 6000 even with the 8PSK Adapter is not DishPro compatible and needs the DishPro Adapter. The reason for this is not the bandstacking but power. Non- DishPro receivers only have enough power to support two LNBF's, that is why they work for Dish 500 but when adding 61.5 or 148 you need a SW64 that has a power inserter. DishPro receivers have enough power for 3 LNBF's so that is why DP34 switch doesn't need a power inserter, but a DP+44 will need a power inserter in order to power 4 LNBF's. I know some will say "I have more than one STB to power the LNBF's", but we design it to work with only one STB powered on. The others could be on light switches, broke, cable to dish unplugged, etc.
Regarding 4 Satellites
Also, yes we support 4 sats now in Philly with 110, 119, 129, 61.5. This is only supported on a subset of STB's and only with legacy SW64 and SW21 cascaded. We did not want to create both a Legacy and DishPro versions of SuperDish with two types of FSS LNB's (one BandStacked and one 13/18 Legacy). Also since it is not DishPro with DiseqC we had to create a special configuration box rather than automatically detecting their setup. This isn't that user friendly.
Now these answers are NOT official Dish Network answers but is information I learned from talking to a few people at Echostar. (so take it for what you will)
Temporally putting some HD on 110.
Yes Dish can put HD at 110 now, however the problem they have with this is once SuperDish is out people will complain when Dish decides to move the HD off 110 and put it all on 105. I can see the forums already of people upset that now they must upgrade to SuperDish when their HD was working fine on 110.
I also learned that the HD content from 61.5 / 148 will indeed be mirrored at 105 at launch. HD will remain on 61.5 and 148 for awhile, but expect HD to move off of 61.5 / 148 in the future.
The few I have talked with said that if you get internationals, Sky Angel you will want to wait until the DP+44 switch comes out, of course you will not be able to get the new HD channels until after you upgrade to the SuperDish. So you will need to decide which service you need more if you don't want to wait for the DP+44 switch.
Again I would like to thank the folks from Echostar for taking time out of their very busy schedules to answer questions of our DBSTalk.COM members!
Jerry G
08-15-03, 09:46 AM
Temporally putting some HD on 110.
Yes Dish can put HD at 110 now, however the problem they have with this is once SuperDish is out people will complain when Dish decides to move the HD off 110 and put it all on 105. I can see the forums already of people upset that now they must upgrade to SuperDish when their HD was working fine on 110.
I also learned that the HD content from 61.5 / 148 will indeed be mirrored at 105 at launch. HD will remain on 61.5 and 148 for awhile, but expect HD to move off of 61.5 / 148 in the future.
This is what drives me crazy about Dish. Sure, some will complain about putting new HD on 110 and then moving it. Yet at the same time, they acknowledge that at some point in the future, HD will move off of 61.5/148, requiring the SuperDish anyway.
Meanwhile, many are upset that we will have to wait until late Oct, early Nov to see new HD and some are leaving Dish because of this. Either way, there are unhappy customers. But Dish should stop worrying about the few who won't understand that putting new HD on 110 is temporary and will be moved to 105 and Dish should just put the new channels on 110 right now. I believe that that solution will ultimately serve Dish better that waiting.
dmodemd
08-15-03, 09:56 AM
A bit confused.
"Non- DishPro receivers only have enough power to support two LNBF's, that is why they work for Dish 500 but when adding 61.5 or 148 you need a SW64 that has a power inserter. "
Then how come a 6000 works with 3 LNBFs and dual SW-21s?
Will the new HD channels be added to 61.5 for awhile before migrating to 105? Or are they going to require you to go SuperDish to get the new channels from the get go? I would bet not because they won't be able to upgrade people fast enough and want to start making money on the new HD pak immediately...
Scott Greczkowski
08-15-03, 09:57 AM
Actually I am told the SuperDish will be made available on or BEFORE October 1st.
I am going to wait it out, I waited this long whats another month and a half. :)
Some good things are coming, it's to bad waiting is the hardest part.
Scott Greczkowski
08-15-03, 09:59 AM
A bit confused.
Will the new HD channels be added to 61.5 for awhile before migrating to 105? Or are they going to require you to go SuperDish to get the new channels from the get go? I would bet not because they won't be able to upgrade people fast enough and want to start making money on the new HD pak immediately...
I am told by a few that all new HD will go to 105 from the get go.
You might want to call your local retailer and get on the SuperDish install waiting list. :D
dmodemd
08-15-03, 10:05 AM
I was trying to avoid SuperDish as long as possible. May sound trivial, but I dont like having to drill four more new holes into my house!
Hmm... so to get HDNet I need an SD... ehh... just as easy to go to DirecTV ;)
Scott Greczkowski
08-15-03, 10:07 AM
You don't need to drill new holes,the superdish replaces your existing dish. :)
dmodemd
08-15-03, 10:13 AM
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Q: Since the Super Dish is a larger size, will it be able to use the same mast as the Dish 500 ant it will be replacing, or will a new mast be required?
A new mast is required. Right now we are looking at SuperDishes from two vendors. We will probably distribute this based on geographical areas. There are two different mast sizes, 2" and 2 3/8". The volume is larger on the 2" mast product.
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I took this to mean the mount would thereby be different. Hopefully the holes line up the same? Or will this mast fit in the mount? Is it the same diameter?
Scott Greczkowski
08-15-03, 10:17 AM
Go and check your mast I believe you have one of those sizes. :)
Cyclone
08-15-03, 10:37 AM
dmodemd, I'll come over and Drill the holes. Are you on Prices Distillery or ijamsville rd? I saw a house on ijamsville rd with a large tower. I thought "That guy must have HD". I wondered if it was your house.
Greg Johnson
08-15-03, 10:45 AM
I just got off the phone with my local retailer. First, the owner of the place didn't even know about the Superdish's existence. Hmm. :rolleyes: Per our discussion I don't beleive there will be any waiting list for the Superdish due to the few HD customers in my area. I wouldn't put myself on any waiting list anyway until I know HOW MUCH it's going to cost to upgrade.
One of my biggest concerns about the Superdish is it looks like the arm for the lnbf's is a lot longer than the Dish500. This means our existing cables are going to be too short. I don't like the idea of drilling more holes in my roof for the Superdish either. It would be nice if E* could provide the dimensions of the Superdish's mounting foot. If you had the dimensions one could fabricate an adapter plate out of 3/4" or 1" thick aluminum. You would drill and countersink clearance holes for your existing Dish500 mount and then drill and tap holes for the Superdish mount. That's what I plan to do to avoid drilling more holes in my roof.
Scott, do you think you could get the dimensions or better yet a drawing of the mounting foot for the Superdish?
Greg
Scott Greczkowski
08-15-03, 10:50 AM
Well Greg you just asked for me, if Dish has something they will send it I am sure. :)
As long as y'all are talking about what the SuperDish will replace, could I pop in with a really easy question that I haven't seen asked yet? To wit: I currently have two 500 dishes -- the second one being installed along with my 6000 receiver. Will the SuperDish replace both these dishes, or just one of 'em?
Jerry,
This is what drives me crazy about Dish. Sure, some will complain about putting new HD on 110 and then moving it. Yet at the same time, they acknowledge that at some point in the future, HD will move off of 61.5/148, requiring the SuperDish anyway.
Dish has other plans for 61.5/148 and 110 long-term. Yes, they plan to move HD content off the side satellites, but this will be a very gradual process. It certainly won't happen this year and probably won't happen next year either.
Thus I understand entirely their position not to put new HD at 61.5 at this point when the Superdish is so close to release (which will only create more side slot customers, whose switch Dish will ultimately have to pay for). I also understand that they can't put HD at 110 for any prolonged period of time, for the longer it is on, the longer and more costly it will be for them to take it off. They've committed to spend several hundred million for the rights to 105 over the next decade (as reported in trade mags), so they obviously want to make full use of that investment.
I want to emphasize that E* wants a single dish solution for HDTV. They see it as a key to the future profitability of HD service. Many of their HD customers right now just point a single dish at 61.5 or 148 and don't subscribe to SD programming; I know from past discussions with Echostar that they believe some percentage of these customers would subscribe to standard programming if it was available to them on their single dish (another reason Dish sought to improve SD upconversion quality with the 811 and 921).
In the near future, every one of their premium movie packages will include a HD channel (HBO, Showtime, Starz, and Cinemax). I suspect they believe this will generate more of the highly lucrative "everything pack" subscriptions from HD customers, but it can only do this if viewers have access to all of these channels. Customers with a Dish500 and side slot dish might become satisfied with 61.5 if Hdnet and ESPN-HD were added now, and then be less inclined to pay for an upgrade to the Superdish, and thereby much less likely to add Starz or Cinemax (for their HD channels on 105), or watch new HDTV PPV channels.
From what we've seen so far, it appears Echostar's strategy is to increase or maintain the relative appeal of the Superdish, even if that means alienating or angering some long-time viewers of the side slots. As they will find, it is difficult to upgrade some customers to the Superdish when they've left for the competition.
Meanwhile, many are upset that we will have to wait until late Oct, early Nov to see new HD and some are leaving Dish because of this. Either way, there are unhappy customers. But Dish should stop worrying about the few who won't understand that putting new HD on 110 is temporary and will be moved to 105 and Dish should just put the new channels on 110 right now. I believe that that solution will ultimately serve Dish better that waiting.I think it's important to remember that the forum members here represent only a small fraction of Dish's HD viewers. While a greater percentage of HD viewers are more technology aware, the vast majority do not follow these forums or the chats. If HD were on 110 for any prolonged period (or any time during which it could be subscribed), there would be thousands of new customers who would not understand why a service they just got (for example, a new professional HD installation with a Dish500 and 6000 and no side slot dish) no longer worked.
That said, I am very disappointed that Dish has mislead customers as it has. Clearly, Dish knew when (to within a few weeks) it would have the Superdish and 105 satellite ready for service launch. Yet they led customers to believe this service would be ready by late summer, in time for the start of the football season, when they probably knew that was unlikely. I think if many customers had known there was not going to be a Superdish and ESPN-HD before October 1, they would have left Dish some time ago.
I also feel that perhaps Dish should have added at least one Hdnet channel to 61.5 many months ago. I suppose they just could not justify losing the extra transponder on 61.5/148 for another two years, given the other plans they have for those slots. Or perhaps they felt they just could not come up with a sufficient number of other new HD channels for the Superdish to make it a "must have" upgrade from launch.
At this point, I would like to see Dish do the following on the September chat:
- Announce formal details of the HD package - what will be available, at what cost, and when (dates when available).
- Announce a superior HD offering, or a schedule for a superior HD offering, that makes Dish the unquestioned HD leader, and makes it clear to customers that Dish is committed to HD.
- Announce a free (or <$50) upgrade to the Superdish + switch with professional install for those that commit to a year of America's Everything pak and the HD package.
- Announce a 30-day free preview of the HD package on 110 degrees, to either commence immediately or the following week, on/by September 14. This would include at least the Hdnets, ESPN-HD, Discovery, and a HD demo channel running a tape with information about the Superdish, the new HD receivers, the upcoming HD package, and a reminder that this is just a free preview. The channels would be delivered with 8PSK and be clearly marked in the guide as free preview. This goes against my business sense, but I feel Dish owes it to customers; this also assures customers that the Superdish will be delivered on October 1, and that there will be no further delays or holdups.
- Keep the cost of the Superdish + switch upgrade + professional installation at a reasonable level (ex: $100) for those customers that do not make any programming commitments.
Jerry G
08-15-03, 03:37 PM
Ken,
Very comprehensive and well thought out response. From a logical and business point of view, I agree with you. Yet, as even you acknowledge, there is still frustration and some anger at the way Dish has handled this whole situation. People have left. I'm seriously thinking of switching to DirecTV even though I know I might regret the move later on. But that's just the level of frustration that some of us have begun to feel.
I absolutely agree that Dish should put something on 110 temporarily. It can be a free preview. It can be a subscription to the a new HD package with the CSRs telling all subscribers that these channel will move to 105 on Jan 1 (or whatever). This is a very practical thing to do. It would alleviate all the pressure that everyone (and Dish) will feel in the mad rush to get a SuperDish right away.
And there's even another issue that will affect some. I have a 6000 and two 5000s, in two different locations. Originally, I thought the 921 would be out soon (and before the Superdish). My plan was to get the 921 to replace the 6000 and move the 6000 to the other room. But with the delay of the 921, what do I do when I get the SuperDish to get the new HD channels. I'll pay for the legacy adapter to use the 6000 with the Superdish, but what do I do for a second STB? The 5000 will not work with the Superdish. So I either have to be without service in the second room while waiting for the 921, or I have to buy another receiver that will work with the SuperDish and be left with an unused STB when the 921 does finally ship. This situation could also be alleviated if Dish would put the new HD package on 110 temporarily.
All I know is that I have been so very supportive of Dish in the forums over the years, and now Dish has managed to alienate me. Something is wrong for this to happen and I don't think it's just my impatience to get the new HD channels.
As long as y'all are talking about what the SuperDish will replace, could I pop in with a really easy question that I haven't seen asked yet? To wit: I currently have two 500 dishes -- the second one being installed along with my 6000 receiver. Will the SuperDish replace both these dishes, or just one of 'em?The SuperDish will replace the D500 w/2 LNBs (seperate or TWIN) that get the core programming from the 119 & 110 orbital positions. In addition, it will get programming from the 105 position for HD customers like you (or from 121 for non-HD international subs.)
Your other dish is aimed at one of the "wing" positions where the HDs are today. You may want to dispose of it once you get the SuperDish unless you still want other content from that satellite such as "low demand" locals, internationals, SkyAngel, etc.
(Well, I just noticed you're in Sacramento so I would bet that your "side" dish is aimed at 148 & you don't get SkyAngel.)
Mike D-CO5
08-15-03, 06:14 PM
What about the low watched local channels that are on the 61.5 and the 148 side slots ? Will they move all these to the single dish solution or will they remain on the side slots and you will still be required to use the 18 inch dish to receive them?
What about the low watched local channels that are on the 61.5 and the 148 side slots ? Will they move all these to the single dish solution or will they remain on the side slots and you will still be required to use the 18 inch dish to receive them?The low demand locals stay on the wing sats. As they take the HDs off & put major locals for more cities on the SuperDish their low-demand channels may go on the wings, too, if they're enough of them.
Chris Freeland
08-16-03, 08:32 PM
The low demand locals stay on the wing sats. As they take the HDs off & put major locals for more cities on the SuperDish their low-demand channels may go on the wings, too, if they're enough of them.
I would not be surprised that when E10 is launched in 05, many or all of these minor locals that are currently on 61.5 or 148, will join the majors on 110 and 119 for a single dish solution. With the addition of one more up-link center their is potential for a big spotbeam expansion. Depending on how this new bird is configured it might be possible to relocate all major locals currently on current 110 and 119 spotbeams plus the miner ones at 61.5 or 148 on to the new E10 spotbeam satellite, likely at 110, and still have the current 110 and 119 Spotbeams as a back-up.
angiodan
08-16-03, 09:31 PM
After thinking things through, I've decided its late summer, I'm not watching much HD programming right now, so I've listed my 6000 on Ebay. I can go without it for a couple of months. I'll get the 811 with superdish (hopefully the 811 will come out at the same time!), then get the 921 whenever it comes out.
And hopefully, the September chat will finally have some real meat to it about the whole Superdish/HD situation.
I'm not watching much HD programming right now, so I've listed my 6000 on Ebay. And hopefully, the September chat will finally have some real meat to it about the whole Superdish/HD situation.
I would suggest posting the url for the ebay posting so those interested can bid on it.
Mark Holtz
08-17-03, 08:49 AM
He did in the Buy, Sell, and Trade forum. :)
my bad. I should have checked it out first. msp
gpflepsen
08-18-03, 04:46 PM
I listed and sold my 6000 with both modules on e-bay two weeks ago. It sold for $561. Almost $40 less than what I had in it. Now if the 811 surfaces for $300 I'll look like a smart fellow. ;)
dmodemd
08-19-03, 07:13 AM
...if you consider 4 months without HD worth $261...
gpflepsen
08-19-03, 08:07 AM
...if you consider 4 months without HD worth $261...
Yes. There's more to life than HD. :)
palladin
08-21-03, 06:09 AM
Does anyone know what will be needed as far as additional
equipment goes to hookup the superdish to (4) receivers.
One receiver will be twin tuner, the 921. So I guess I'll need
(5) outputs.
NOTE: I'm really only concerned at this point with receiving
the HDTV signals on the 921 receiver. On the other
(3) I'm good just looking at the 110 and 119 sat.
Any suggestions?
Until the new DP+44 switch ships "early next year" you will probably need a DP34 switch if you can get a SuperDish with a QUAD. More likely the SuperDish will have a version of a TWIN so you would actually need 2 DP34s to get more than 4 drops.
wcswett
08-21-03, 07:24 PM
Until the new DP+44 switch ships "early next year" you will probably need a DP34 switch if you can get a SuperDish with a QUAD. More likely the SuperDish will have a version of a TWIN so you would actually need 2 DP34s to get more than 4 drops.
I'm preparing to split my two DP34 switches apart and connect one to 61.5/110/119 for the SDTV's and the other to 105/110/119 for the HDTV's. I guess I could have bought a quad LNBF for this but instead I got an additional DISH 500 with twin LNBF off eBay cheap. Sure would rather have two DP+44's.
--- WCS
palladin
08-22-03, 09:11 AM
Scott mentioned on another thread, that along with the release
of the DP44 switch early next year there will also be made available a Dish Pro Plus Diplexer which will allow a single drop
to be run to a twin tuner and split at the tuner.
Will this be compatable with the DP34 switch?
Jerry G
08-22-03, 09:20 AM
Scott mentioned on another thread, that along with the release
of the DP44 switch early next year there will also be made available a Dish Pro Plus Diplexer which will allow a single drop
to be run to a twin tuner and split at the tuner.
Will this be compatable with the DP34 switch?
No. The DP+4:4 will be required for this functionality. Unfortunately, this means that if you ultimately need/want the 4:4, but also want the Superdish now to get the new HD channels, you'll have to buy a 4:3 switch now and then spend more money on the 4:4 switch next year. I'm in the same boat. I don't mind spending money for new equipment such as the 921. But I do object to wasting my money buying a product that I'll only need for a few months because Dish doesn't have it's act together enough to supply all the needed hardware at the same time.
wcswett
08-22-03, 11:10 AM
No. The DP+4:4 will be required for this functionality. Unfortunately, this means that if you ultimately need/want the 4:4, but also want the Superdish now to get the new HD channels, you'll have to buy a 4:3 switch now and then spend more money on the 4:4 switch next year. I'm in the same boat. I don't mind spending money for new equipment such as the 921. But I do object to wasting my money buying a product that I'll only need for a few months because Dish doesn't have it's act together enough to supply all the needed hardware at the same time.
Since the only way to use a Superdish is with a DP43 switch, the switch should be included in the Superdish package from DISH Network. If they just send you a Superdish with no switch, how will the installer set it up unless you already had one?
--- WCS
palladin
08-22-03, 12:10 PM
No. The DP+4:4 will be required for this functionality. Unfortunately, this means that if you ultimately need/want the 4:4, but also want the Superdish now to get the new HD channels, you'll have to buy a 4:3 switch now and then spend more money on the 4:4 switch next year. I'm in the same boat. I don't mind spending money for new equipment such as the 921. But I do object to wasting my money buying a product that I'll only need for a few months because Dish doesn't have it's act together enough to supply all the needed hardware at the same time.
JerryG
Thanks for the info. I'm sure you are already know this and it
may not apply to you, but I got my 4:3 switch from Dish for free.
I have some local "must carry" stations that are on the 61.5 sat.
As a result, they had to install the second dish and all applicable
equipment free of charge. My real reason for this was to set up
to receive HDTV signals in anticipation of the 921. Superdish
blew up this idea, but I still got the 2nd dish and the switch for
free. when the4:4 comes out I guess I'll be able to get 105, 110,
119, & 61.5.
I hope this may help you or others that may not be aware of
the "must carry" rule.
Jerry G
08-22-03, 12:59 PM
Since the only way to use a Superdish is with a DP43 switch, the switch should be included in the Superdish package from DISH Network. If they just send you a Superdish with no switch, how will the installer set it up unless you already had one?
--- WCS
True enough. But one has to assume that the cost of the Superdish/DP43 includes the cost of the 4:3 switch. Without the 4:3 switch, the dish should be cheaper. If the 4:4 switch was available, then it could be ordered with the SuperDish, thereby avoiding whatever the expense of the 4:3 switch it. Now, if it was demonstrated that the 4:3 switch did not add any additional cost to the Superdish, then all would be fine. But I doubt this is the case.
Jerry G
08-22-03, 01:01 PM
JerryG
Thanks for the info. I'm sure you are already know this and it
may not apply to you, but I got my 4:3 switch from Dish for free.
I have some local "must carry" stations that are on the 61.5 sat.
As a result, they had to install the second dish and all applicable
equipment free of charge. My real reason for this was to set up
to receive HDTV signals in anticipation of the 921. Superdish
blew up this idea, but I still got the 2nd dish and the switch for
free. when the4:4 comes out I guess I'll be able to get 105, 110,
119, & 61.5.
I hope this may help you or others that may not be aware of
the "must carry" rule.
Thanks for the suggestion. I have the 6:4 switch in conjunction with the original Dish 500 and can see the side bird with this configuration.
Do you think the 4:4 switch will actually be available earlier but they will just hold it up in the warehouses to exhaust their existing switch inventories? I would not put it past them since the new receivers coming out like the 322, 522, 921 all have 2 tuners and the older smaller switch would become less necessary. If they had a heap of old switches this super dish roll-out may be the perfect way to unload them.
wcswett
08-22-03, 05:11 PM
True enough. But one has to assume that the cost of the Superdish/DP43 includes the cost of the 4:3 switch. Without the 4:3 switch, the dish should be cheaper. If the 4:4 switch was available, then it could be ordered with the SuperDish, thereby avoiding whatever the expense of the 4:3 switch it. Now, if it was demonstrated that the 4:3 switch did not add any additional cost to the Superdish, then all would be fine. But I doubt this is the case.
Well, I have at least two Atlanta "must carry" channels on 61.5, so if they don't move those to 105 I'll have to call and b*tch at DISH. Maybe I can get at least one DP+44 switch for free. I should, considering that I paid for both of my 34 switches when I apparently could have gotten one for free. I guess we shouldn't worry... all will be made clear at the NEXT Charlie Chat. :)
--- WCS
Jerry G
08-22-03, 06:30 PM
I guess we shouldn't worry... all will be made clear at the NEXT Charlie Chat. :)
--- WCS
I'm laughing. But it really isn't a joke any more for many Dish subs. I sure hope Charlie realizes that there had better be no more fooling around. He has to have very specific plans and dates and those dates better be no latter than the very beginning or October or sooner for the new HD channels and the equipment necessary to receive them. If both of these don't occur, I believe there will be a large exodus of Dish subs (who are interested in HD) to DirecTV, and I'll be leading the pack.
wcswett
08-22-03, 09:30 PM
I'm laughing. But it really isn't a joke any more for many Dish subs. I sure hope Charlie realizes that there had better be no more fooling around. He has to have very specific plans and dates and those dates better be no latter than the very beginning or October or sooner for the new HD channels and the equipment necessary to receive them. If both of these don't occur, I believe there will be a large exodus of Dish subs (who are interested in HD) to DirecTV, and I'll be leading the pack.
I have an extra mast on the roof that currently has a DirecTV dish on it and only needs the sat C LNB to be fully ready for HD. I put it up there a few months ago on a whim, and have used it for free-to-air exploration of DISH 119. The more I think about it, the more precient that installation seems. More recently I had planned to replace it with another DISH 500 or to put the Superdish on that mast. I sure hope I still have reason to do that come Sept. 9th rather than ordering a sat C kit. I quit DirecTV back in 2000 and I don't really want to go back, especially with two 6000's, a 721 and a 501.
--- WCS
Jerry G
08-22-03, 09:59 PM
I have an extra mast on the roof that currently has a DirecTV dish on it and only needs the sat C LNB to be fully ready for HD. I put it up there a few months ago on a whim, and have used it for free-to-air exploration of DISH 119. The more I think about it, the more precient that installation seems. More recently I had planned to replace it with another DISH 500 or to put the Superdish on that mast. I sure hope I still have reason to do that come Sept. 9th rather than ordering a sat C kit. I quit DirecTV back in 2000 and I don't really want to go back, especially with two 6000's, a 721 and a 501.
--- WCS
Prescient, indeed :)
I don't think a SuperDISH will have the rain fade margins I like. I hope they have a solution which will allow separate dishes to be employed on Legacy receivers. One such solution could be to have the 129 Install work with 105 as it now does with installations which have 61.5 and 148.
I am using 30" dishes for 61.5, 101, 110, 119 and 148 currently.
wcswett
08-23-03, 09:52 AM
I don't think a SuperDISH will have the rain fade margins I like. I hope they have a solution which will allow separate dishes to be employed on Legacy receivers. One such solution could be to have the 129 Install work with 105 as it now does with installations which have 61.5 and 148. I am using 30" dishes for 61.5, 101, 110, 119 and 148 currently.
I'm going to try locking onto 105 (36 in. dish) with my 6000/8PSK, first using a standard voltage switched Pansat Ku band LNBF and no switch, then using a DP34, legacy adapter and a StarChoice bandstacked LNBF. All I need is the new 6000 software. If these don't work, I'll have to get a Superdish and put my 36 in. dish back to Telstar 5.
--- WCS
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