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CalifLove
05-11-10, 12:54 AM
Hello all -
I have had Dish for a little over a year. I currently have 1 VIP211k with a HDD attached for DVR use and 2 612 DRV's. I constantly "battle" with seemingly inability to get access to all of my DRV's in the house from any TV.
It appears from the research I have done tonight that Dish does not have a solution for me and I wanted to ask the experts here if that is correct so I can have what I hope will be a definitive answer. The capability of some of the Dish boxes to send out SD signals to Tv's within the house is not apealing to me as I don't do much SD at all...
Please advise.
RasputinAXP
05-11-10, 06:08 AM
Can't do MRV amongst different boxes.
James Long
05-11-10, 08:02 AM
The closest DISH has is the sling capability built in to the new 922 and available (eventually) as an add on to other dual tuner DVRs. Not the full "MRV" that DirecTV and others will offer at some point, but a way of getting HD to another room off of one receiver.
phrelin
05-11-10, 01:06 PM
Hello all -
I have had Dish for a little over a year. I currently have 1 VIP211k with a HDD attached for DVR use and 2 612 DRV's. I constantly "battle" with seemingly inability to get access to all of my DRV's in the house from any TV.
It appears from the research I have done tonight that Dish does not have a solution for me and I wanted to ask the experts here if that is correct so I can have what I hope will be a definitive answer. The capability of some of the Dish boxes to send out SD signals to Tv's within the house is not apealing to me as I don't do much SD at all...
Please advise.As long as you asked about this, I am curious about how many HD TV's need access to the three DVR's in your home and how they are used. Is this a situation where you have a number of people in your home who want to watch different things at the same time? Or do you primarily need access to the DVRs from different rooms that you happen to be in.
It may sound like a weird inquiry, but my perception of Echostar acquiring Slingbox and through Dish offering the 922 is that we are being offered an option based on a model that combines multiple room HD viewing on large screen TV's and desktop computers, along with the portability of viewing through notebook computers and even the iPad and 3G connected phones, all using home computer networks, both wired and wireless, within the home and in more distant locations through the internet.
In our situation, using a Slingbox PRO HD attached to my 722, we have eliminated having to buy additional HD TVs. We are using an HD capable desktop computer with a 25" HD monitor in our home office and an HD capable notebook with a 20" monitor in other rooms. We still have an small SD TV in the kitchen which will be replaced when Sling gets done with an App for our iPad (the iPhone App works but not at the quality I'd like). When the weather is nice, we'll be able to watch TV outside on our decks on the notebook or the iPad.
To me, it's clearly a concept different from traditional MRV though it offers somewhat similar benefits. And I would emphasize that while the Slingbox PRO HD does give us excellent A/V results, Echostar's SlingMedia is still developing the technology including the ViP922.
In your opinion in the future could this be more desirable than cross-connecting the DVRs within your home?
GrumpyBear
05-11-10, 02:05 PM
bAs long as you asked about this, I am curious about how many HD TV's need access to the three DVR's in your home and how they are used. Is this a situation where you have a number of people in your home who want to watch different things at the same time? Or do you primarily need access to the DVRs from different rooms that you happen to be in.
It may sound like a weird inquiry, but my perception of Echostar acquiring Slingbox and through Dish offering the 922 is that we are being offered an option based on a model that combines multiple room HD viewing on large screen TV's and desktop computers, along with the portability of viewing through notebook computers and even the iPad and 3G connected phones, all using home computer networks, both wired and wireless, within the home and in more distant locations through the internet.
In our situation, using a Slingbox PRO HD attached to my 722, we have eliminated having to buy additional HD TVs. We are using an HD capable desktop computer with a 25" HD monitor in our home office and an HD capable notebook with a 20" monitor in other rooms. We still have an small SD TV in the kitchen which will be replaced when Sling gets done with an App for our iPad (the iPhone App works but not at the quality I'd like). When the weather is nice, we'll be able to watch TV outside on our decks on the notebook or the iPad.
To me, it's clearly a concept different from traditional MRV though it offers somewhat similar benefits. And I would emphasize that while the Slingbox PRO HD does give us excellent A/V results, Echostar's SlingMedia is still developing the technology including the ViP922.
In your opinion in the future could this be more desirable than cross-connecting the DVRs within your home?
You bring up a good point, about centralized recording with multiple vewing options vs diversivied recording, with point to point reciever viewing options.
I do see advantages to both, but seeing Centralized being more useful for the average user( I said Avg user). You know were your show will be, no hunting for which DVR you recorded on it on, having 1 DVR that can record 2- 4 shows, as well as stream live TV content for most users my prove to be simpiler in the long run, plus the advantage of using equipment like laptops, Desktops, TV's that are in game rooms, or in rooms that don't need a recievers, that are already in the house.
Add in just one more DVR, and double your options, yet keeping the options low, in explaining to the avg user, were thier show is at.
CalifLove
05-11-10, 10:49 PM
b
You bring up a good point, about centralized recording with multiple vewing options vs diversivied recording, with point to point reciever viewing options.
I do see advantages to both, but seeing Centralized being more useful for the average user( I said Avg user). You know were your show will be, no hunting for which DVR you recorded on it on, having 1 DVR that can record 2- 4 shows, as well as stream live TV content for most users my prove to be simpiler in the long run, plus the advantage of using equipment like laptops, Desktops, TV's that are in game rooms, or in rooms that don't need a recievers, that are already in the house.
Add in just one more DVR, and double your options, yet keeping the options low, in explaining to the avg user, were thier show is at.
Thanks everyone for their thoughts.
To be honest, the 3rd DVR which is the setup with the 211k was just somthing I did for the heck of it. It's nice because it records shows that I can/will eventually get to but because we so rarely use the room that it is in, it becomes a hassle to watch the stuff that is on the hard disk... however, on lazy days it is nice to fire it up and veg out on a ton of recorded content...
That being said, the VIP 922k solves some of that problem as my PC (which is located in the room w/ the 211 box) is connected to both a 19" traditional monitor as well as a 40" HDTv so the "sling" to that room is easy. The last real remaining issue then becomes the bed room as the way I understand it, I can't "sling" to another HD receiver... so I'd need to hook a laptop correct?
I do think having the ability to "sling" content to a laptop or other computer terminal is a neat idea but in practice... I imagine I could probably find a way to make it work for me... maybe if they made a sling player app for the PS3 or 360...that would actually solve my problem! What are the chances of that happening - aww I digress... So I guess the ultimate question I have is, with the 922 is there anyway to get content to other TV's in the house w/o a computer?
phrelin
05-11-10, 11:30 PM
The product shown on the bottom of this web page (http://www.dishnetwork.com/tveverywhere/default.aspx) will take care of "slinging" to an HD TV without using a computer when it's released. (Soon.)
If you can wait another six months, the 922 will likely become a usable product. Right now it's sort of in a post-beta beta even though it has been released. You can check out the ViP922 DVR Support Forum (http://www.dbstalk.com/forumdisplay.php?f=178).
If you want to Sling right away to a computer, some of us use a Slingbox PRO-HD (http://www.slingbox.com/go/slingbox-prohd) with our ViP DVRs. I'm just not willing to battle through the process of making the 922 as reliable a DVR as my 722 and the Sling feature on the 922 as reliable as my Slingbox PRO-HD. But ultimately, the 922 will have some advantages.
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