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phrelin
05-19-10, 01:23 PM
CBS Fall Schedule from Upfronts.

MONDAY

8:00-8:30 PM HOW I MET YOUR MOTHER
8:30-9:00 PM RULES OF ENGAGEMENT
9:00-9:30 PM TWO AND A HALF MEN
9:30-10:00 PM MIKE & MOLLY
10:00-11:00 PM HAWAII FIVE-O

TUESDAY

8:00-9:00 PM NCIS
9:00-10:00 PM NCIS: LOS ANGELES
10:00-11:00 PM THE GOOD WIFE

WEDNESDAY

8:00-9:00 PM SURVIVOR
9:00-10:00 PM CRIMINAL MINDS
10:00-11:00 PM THE DEFENDERS

THURSDAY

8:00-8:30 PM THE BIG BANG THEORY
8:30 - 9:00 P.M. $#*! MY DAD SAYS
9:00-10:00 PM CSI: CRIME SCENE INVESTIGATION
10:00-11:00 PM THE MENTALIST

FRIDAY

8:00-9:00 PM MEDIUM
9:00-10:00 PM CSI: NY
10:00-11:00 PM BLUE BLOODS

SATURDAY

8:00-9:00 PM CRIMETIME SATURDAY
9:00-10:00 PM CRIMETIME SATURDAY
10:00-11:00 PM 48 HOURS MYSTERY

SUNDAY

7:00-8:00 PM 60 MINUTES
8:00-9:00 PM THE AMAZING RACE
9:00-10:00 PM UNDERCOVER BOSS
10:00-11:00 PM CSI: MIAMI

From the CBS News Release:

CBS ANNOUNCES 2010-2011 PRIMETIME SCHEDULE

America's Most Watched Network Adds Five New Series to Its Top-Rated Lineup

New Dramas Include a New HAWAII FIVE-0, Comedic Drama THE DEFENDERS and a Family of NYPD's Finest BLUE BLOODS

Comedies Include a Series Based on a Twitter Feed and a New Show From Chuck Lorre About a Couple Who Find Love at an Overeaters Anonymous Meeting

18 Current Series Return

CBS Unveils Four Key Time Period Moves to Grow Nights and Spread Strength Across the Schedule

THE BIG BANG THEORY Launches New One-Hour Comedy Block Thursday at 8:00 PM

SURVIVOR to Open Wednesdays at 8:00 PM

CSI: NY Moves to Friday at 9:00 PM and CSI: MIAMI to Sunday at 10:00 PM to Power Two Key Time Periods

CBS announced today its new 2010-2011 primetime schedule and the addition of five new series, including three dramas and two comedies, and key scheduling moves to enhance America's most watched lineup.

The new series includes an updated take on the classic series HAWAII FIVE-0; comedic drama THE DEFENDERS starring Jim Belushi and Jerry O'Connell as colorful Las Vegas defense attorneys; drama BLUE BLOODS about a family of NYPD cops starring Tom Selleck and Donnie Wahlberg; a Twitter-inspired comedy, $#*! MY DAD SAYS, starring William Shatner as a father who spouts politically incorrect observations on daily life; and the romantic comedy MIKE & MOLLY, starring Billy Gardell and Melissa McCarthy as a cop and teacher who find love at an Overeaters Anonymous meeting.

"We believe television's #1 network just got stronger," said Nina Tassler, President, CBS Entertainment. "New series will be launched behind proven hits and key scheduling moves will help grow nights. Two of the dramas, 'Hawaii Five-0' and 'The Defenders,' continue our successful evolution in the drama form - character driven with great humor. The third new drama, 'Blue Bloods,' introduces a police drama with a unique family spin. Our two new comedies will definitely make some noise. '$#*! My Dad Says' is based on a distinctly loud and funny Twitter feed - led by a larger-than-life star in William Shatner. 'Mike & Molly' is a comedy on the romantic side, featuring the trademark humor of TV's reigning king of comedy, Chuck Lorre. And, the best news is that these new series join a schedule deep with hits and leadership in every program genre."

The freshman series will be joined by 18 returning shows including the season's #1 drama/scripted program - NCIS; #1 comedy - TWO AND A HALF MEN; #1 new series - UNDERCOVER BOSS, the #1 news magazine - 60 MINUTES, the #1 new drama - NCIS: LOS ANGELES, plus the #1 scripted series in key demos (18-49 and 25-54) - THE BIG BANG THEORY, along with two franchise reality series - SURVIVOR and the seven-time Emmy Award winner THE AMAZING RACE.

Also returning are: HOW I MET YOUR MOTHER, RULES OF ENGAGEMENT, THE GOOD WIFE, CRIMINAL MINDS, CSI: CRIME SCENE INVESTIGATION, THE MENTALIST, MEDIUM, CSI: NY, 48 HOURS MYSTERY and CSI: MIAMI.

A spin off of the hit drama CRIMINAL MINDS, starring Forest Whitaker, has been ordered for midseason.

The new 2010-2011 schedule:

On Monday, CBS adds a new Chuck Lorre comedy to television's top-rated comedy block and a big new drama to cap the night. From 8:00-9:00 PM, the established duo of HOW I MET YOUR MOTHER and RULES OF ENGAGEMENT returns. Television's top comedy TWO AND A HALF MEN remains at 9:00 PM, serving as a lead-in for the new comedy MIKE & MOLLY, starring Billy Gardell and Melissa McCarthy at 9:30 PM. HAWAII FIVE-0 rides the wave into 10:00 PM.

On Tuesday, CBS's top-rated night remains intact with the #1 rated scripted series, NCIS, at 8:00 PM followed by the #1 new drama, NCIS: LOS ANGELES, at 9:00 PM and the #2 new drama, THE GOOD WIFE, at 10:00 PM.

On Wednesday, CBS makes two strategic time period changes to bookend the night. SURVIVOR provides a potent lead-off hitter at 8:00 PM. The sixth-year hit CRIMINAL MINDS remains at 9:00 PM, providing a strong lead-in to the new drama THE DEFENDERS, starring Jim Belushi and Jerry O'Connell, at 10:00 PM.

On Thursday, CBS opens a new one-hour comedy block on TV's biggest night. THE BIG BANG THEORY, the fastest growing series on television, kicks off the line-up at 8:00 PM, serving as a powerful lead-in for the irreverent new comedy $#*! MY DAD SAYS. The rest of the night remains unchanged with the popular drama block CSI: CRIME SCENE INVESTIGATION and THE MENTALIST from 9:00-11:00 PM.

On Friday, CBS adds a New York/New York tandem from 9:00-11:00 PM. Veteran drama MEDIUM leads off the night at 8:00 PM. Proven hit CSI: NY moves from Wednesday to serve as the tent pole at 9:00 PM, flowing seamlessly into the NYPD police drama BLUE BLOODS at 10:00 PM.

Saturdays will feature CBS's CRIMETIME programming from 8:00-10:00 PM, followed by the popular true crime series 48 HOURS MYSTERY at 10:00 PM.

On Sunday, a winning crime drama moves to 10:00 PM to anchor one of TV's biggest nights. The perennial #1 news magazine, 60 MINUTES, kicks off its 43rd season at 7:00 PM. The seven-time Emmy Award-winning series THE AMAZING RACE returns at 8:00 PM followed by the first full season of UNDERCOVER BOSS, TV's #1 new show at 9:00 PM, keeping intact a powerful reality block. CSI: MIAMI provides the night's strongest 10:00 PM anchors in years.

The New Comedies are:

$#*! MY DAD SAYS, based on the popular Twitter feed by Justin Halpern, stars Emmy Award winner William Shatner as Ed Goodson, a forthright and opinionated dad who relishes expressing his unsolicited and often wildly politically incorrect observations to anyone within earshot. Nobody is immune from Ed's rants, including his sons, Henry, a struggling writer-turned-unpaid blogger; and Vince (Will Sasso), the meek half of his husband/wife real estate duo with domineering Kathleen (Nicole Sullivan). When Henry finds he can no longer afford to pay rent to his pretty roommate -- and secret admirer -- Sam (Stephanie Lemelin), Ed reveals a soft spot and invites Henry to move in with him. Henry agrees, knowing that the verbal assault will not abate and now there will be no escape. Describing their father/son relationship is tricky - but Ed will easily come up with a few choice words. Emmy Award winners David Kohan and Max Mutchnick are executive producers for Warner Bros. Television. Emmy Award winner James Burrows directed.

MIKE & MOLLY is a comedy from Chuck Lorre ("Two and a Half Men," and "The Big Bang Theory") about a working class Chicago couple who find love at an Overeaters Anonymous meeting. Officer Mike Biggs (Billy Gardell) is a good-hearted cop who sincerely wants to lose weight. Mike's partner, Officer Carl McMillan (Reno Wilson), is a thin, fast-talking wise-guy, who despite his teasing encourages Mike on his road to slimness and romance. While speaking at an O.A. meeting, Mike meets Molly Flynn (Melissa McCarthy), an instantly likeable fourth-grade teacher with a healthy sense of humor about her curves. For Molly, focusing on smart choices isn't easy because she lives with her sexy older sister, Victoria (Katy Mixon), and their mother, Joyce (Swoosie Kurtz), both of whom flaunt their healthy appetites and slender figures. Mike also faces temptation at the diner he and Carl frequent, where they've become friends with the Senegalese waiter, Samuel (Nyambi Nyambi), who finds trying to eat less a foreign concept. For Mike and Molly, thanks to their mutual love of pie and the desire to resist it, finding each other may have been worth the "weight." Chuck Lorre and Mark Roberts are executive producers for Chuck Lorre Productions in association with Warner Bros. Television.

The New Dramas are:

HAWAII FIVE-0 is a contemporary take on the classic series about a new elite federalized task force whose mission is to wipe out the crime that washes up on the Islands' sun-drenched beaches. Detective Steve McGarrett (Alex O'Loughlin), a decorated Naval officer turned cop, returns to Oahu to investigate his father's murder and stays after Hawaii's governor persuades him to head up the new team: his rules, her backing, no red tape and full blanket immunity to hunt down the biggest "game" in town. Joining McGarrett is Detective Danny "Danno" Williams (Scott Caan), a newly relocated ex-New Jersey cop who prefers skyscrapers to the coastline but is committed to keeping the Islands safe for his 8-year-old daughter; and Chin Ho Kelly (Daniel Dae Kim), an ex-Honolulu Police Detective wrongly accused of corruption and relegated to a federal security patrol, who is also a former protege of McGarrett's father. Chin's cousin, Kono (Grace Park), is a beautiful and fearless native, fresh out of the academy and eager to establish herself among the department's elite. McGarrett vows to bring closure to his father's case while the state's brash new FIVE-0 unit, who may spar and jest among themselves, is determined to eliminate the seedy elements from the 50th state. Peter Lenkov, Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci are executive producers for CBS Television Studios.

THE DEFENDERS stars Jim Belushi and Jerry O'Connell in a comedic drama about two colorful Las Vegas defense attorneys who go all-in when it comes to representing their clients. Nick and Pete are the local go-to guys with an eclectic client list who are still looking to hit their own jackpot. Leading the law firm of Morelli & Kaczmarek are Nick Morelli (Belushi), an earnest, hard-charging attorney who represents his clients to the best of his ability, no matter how big or small the case, and his partner, Pete Kaczmarek (O'Connell), whose passion for the law is matched only by his love of fast cars, beautiful women and expensive clothes. Joining them in their growing law practice is new associate Lisa Tyler (Jurnee Smollett), an enthusiastic young attorney looking to put her exotic dancing days behind her; and their young assistant, Sophie (Tanya Fischer), a spunky and sweet ingenue who is eager to please her bosses. As Lady Luck shines on their legal careers, the partners have their hands full when it comes to their personal lives. While Pete is busy cruising the Vegas Strip for his latest romantic conquest, Nick is focused on repairing his fractured marriage to his estranged wife, Jessica (Gillian Vigman), while remaining present in the life of their young son. No matter the offense, Nick and Pete aim to prove that when the stakes are high they're willing to bet the house on the clients they defend in Sin City. Carol Mendelsohn, Niels Mueller and Kevin Kennedy, Joe and Harry Gantz, and Davis Guggenheim are the executive producers for CBS Television Studios.

BLUE BLOODS is a drama about a multi-generational family of cops dedicated to New York City law enforcement. Frank Reagan (Tom Selleck) is the New York Chief of Police and patriarch of the Reagan brood, which he heads as diplomatically as he does the force, even when dealing with the politics that plagued his unapologetically bold father, Henry (Len Cariou), during his stint as Chief. A source of pride and concern for Frank is his eldest son Danny (Donnie Wahlberg), a seasoned detective, family man and Iraqi War vet who on occasion uses dubious tactics to solve cases. The sole Reagan woman in the family, Erin (Bridget Moynahan), is a N.Y. Assistant D.A. and newly single parent, who also serves as the legal compass for her siblings and father. Jamie (Will Estes) is the youngest Reagan, fresh out of Harvard Law and the family's "golden boy." However, unable to deny the family tradition, Jamie decided to give up a lucrative future in law and is now a newly minted cop, a career change seemingly supported by his beautiful girlfriend, Sydney Davenport (Dylan Moore), a first year lawyer. Jamie's life takes an abrupt turn, however, when he's asked to become part of a clandestine police investigation even his father knows nothing about, and one that could impact the family's legacy. Emmy Award winners Mitchell Burgess, Robin Green and Leonard Goldberg are executive producers for CBS Television Studios.

The Midseason Series:

CRIMINAL MINDS SPINOFF stars Academy Award-winner Forest Whitaker in a drama about an elite team of agents within the FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit who use unconventional methods of investigation and aggressive tactics to capture the nation's most nefarious criminals. Unit chief Special Agent Sam Cooper (Whitaker) is a mentally and physically fierce natural leader who is not afraid to put his career on the line in order to stand by his convictions. Cooper strives to avoid political bureaucracy and has handpicked an eclectic group of profilers to work outside the confines of Quantico: Former British Special Forces soldier Mick Rawson (Matt Ryan), confident and handsome, works as a highly-skilled marksman with an undiluted eye for rooting out evil; John "Prophet" Sims (Michael Kelly), a former convict with a street-smart edge and a calm, Zen-like presence, who is determined to make amends for past sins; and Gina LaSalle (Beau Garrett), an attractive, tough agent armed with a cunning sense of perception. This exceptional group of FBI operatives is strong in their beliefs and steadfast in their mission to bring the country's most dangerous criminals to justice. Chris Mundy, Edward Allen Bernero, Mark Gordon and Deborah Spera are executive producers for ABC Studios in association with CBS Television Studios.

phrelin
05-19-10, 01:26 PM
CBS did cancel Old Christine, Ghost Whisperer, Gary Unmarried, Accidentally on Purpose, Cold Case, Miami Medical and Numb3rs.

Stuart Sweet
05-19-10, 01:31 PM
I'm still not sure we've seen the last of Old Christine.

Herdfan
05-19-10, 01:31 PM
Gary Unmarried - Crap! Liked that show.

Accidentally on Purpose - I guess I can delete all those eps from my DVR that I was saving for summer.

I hope BBT's move to Thursday doesn't hurt it in the ratings.

jodyguercio
05-19-10, 01:47 PM
Gary Unmarried - Crap! Liked that show.

Accidentally on Purpose - I guess I can delete all those eps from my DVR that I was saving for summer.

I hope BBT's move to Thursday doesn't hurt it in the ratings.

Don't delete Accidentally. The way the series wrapped it was as if the writers knew it was going to get canceled. It was wrapped up with no cliff hanger to speak of.

Stuart Sweet
05-19-10, 01:52 PM
I wouldn't worry about Big Bang Theory. My intuition tells me that their audience DVRs it a lot anyway.

Stewart Vernon
05-19-10, 02:03 PM
I don't watch anything on CBS anymore (besides sports)... Lost Without a Trace last year, and now Cold Case this year.

Supramom2000
05-19-10, 02:23 PM
So CSI:NY is on the way out, moving it to the Friday night of death slot. CSI:Miami for sure will die on Sunday night.

I am happy to see Medium back. I am very surprised that Jennifer Love Hewitt's "twins" were not enough to keep her on the air. But since she lost all that weight, they have not been featured much any more. But I actually enjoyed that show.

Anyone know when Flashpoint will appear?

oldschoolecw
05-19-10, 02:30 PM
Gary Unmarried - Crap! Liked that show.

Accidentally on Purpose - I guess I can delete all those eps from my DVR that I was saving for summer.

I hope BBT's move to Thursday doesn't hurt it in the ratings.

I wouldn't worry about Big Bang Theory. My intuition tells me that their audience DVRs it a lot anyway.

CBS knows it can withstand the move to Thursdays and it should still thrive. It’s my favorite Comedy on CBS

Herdfan
05-19-10, 03:07 PM
It does look like Rules of Engagement will start the season instead of being a mid-season show. Wife will like that.

mhayes70
05-19-10, 03:19 PM
Dang..... I liked Accidentally on Purpose and I would watch Old Christine. Hopefully they will bring them back.

Dario33
05-19-10, 03:27 PM
I'll check out Blue Bloods since it has some former Sopranos talent involved.

RunnerFL
05-19-10, 03:32 PM
I'm still not sure we've seen the last of Old Christine.

Considering ABC was trying to get the show from CBS a week or so ago I'd say you are correct Sir.

sigma1914
05-19-10, 04:30 PM
$#*! MY DAD SAYS, based on the popular Twitter feed by Justin Halpern, stars Emmy Award winner William Shatner as Ed Goodson, a forthright and opinionated dad who relishes expressing his unsolicited and often wildly politically incorrect observations to anyone within earshot.

Noooooo, please, anyone but Shatner. I love the Twitter feed, but Shatner drives me bonkers.:mad:

brian70461
05-19-10, 08:34 PM
Yes I wouldnt delete accidently on purpose either. I thought it stayed funny all season and did wrap up good.

Herdfan
05-21-10, 08:07 AM
Show hasn't even aired yet and it has started:

http://livefeed.hollywoodreporter.com/2010/05/parents-group-cbs.html

RunnerFL
05-21-10, 08:14 AM
Show hasn't even aired yet and it has started:

http://livefeed.hollywoodreporter.com/2010/05/parents-group-cbs.html

How sad... Some people are just too uptight.

Doug Brott
05-21-10, 09:01 AM
Seriously .. Now we have to bleep the bleep? :shrug:

ajc68
05-21-10, 09:07 AM
Honesty, CBS is probably thrilled about this and anticipated it. Look at all the free press they are now getting for a show that has yet to air. Hell, I hadn't heard of the upcoming show, let alone the Twitter feed, until this news came out...

sigma1914
05-21-10, 09:10 AM
Here's the twitter site for those unfamiliar. You don't need a twitter account.

Edit: nevermind, I can't link it because of the curse word in the url.

Herdfan
05-21-10, 09:23 AM
Seriously .. Now we have to bleep the bleep? :shrug:

!rolling

DogLover
05-21-10, 09:34 AM
All that I could think of when I read the description for this program was, "William Shatner as Archie Bunker."

frederic1943
05-21-10, 10:05 AM
All that I could think of when I read the description for this program was, "William Shatner as Archie Bunker."
No, William Shatner as Denny Crane.:lol::lol:

Supramom2000
05-21-10, 12:04 PM
Come on people!! Don't you realize this is right smack in "family hour"? And what do you think burgeoning young readers are going to ask their parents when they see that title while looking through the guide? "Mommy, what does that funny looking word mean?" I can't believe we have become so lax that we have come to the point that practically all the shows on at family hour are full of sexual innuendos, partial nudity, etc.

Take Chuck. I love Chuck, but I cannot watch it with my 4 year old near. The scenes of Sarah in her lingerie are actually pretty risque for 8:00. My daughter is just at the stage where we are teaching her it is not really okay to run around naked everywhere she wants to and that her body is private. Chuck is pretty much the antithesis of that notion.

I have no problem with people watching what they want when they want, but the rules surrounding parenting should be equal then. We assume that parents aren't parenting in the schools, so now schools are surrogate parents. Why does TV get a free pass? Those same parents are not parenting in the home either, so cater to the lowest comment denominator in the entertainment world as well.

If this were the olden days of no tech, when there was no guide on the TV and you had to get your information from a paper source, it would not matter as much. Your child would probably not ever see the title and not ask the question. But the polluting of the 8:00 hour of television has really been a pet peeve of mine for a while.

Jon J
05-21-10, 12:23 PM
"Mommy, what does that funny looking word mean?"Things.

Problem solved.

Supramom2000
05-21-10, 12:32 PM
Things.

Problem solved.

Really? And so beside the point.

Stewart Vernon
05-21-10, 12:49 PM
I'm always torn on these things...

OTA is "public" airwave use, and as such is subject to more stringent consideration in terms of what some find offensive or simply don't want to watch.

On the other hand, people need to take responsibility for themselves and their own children.

The "what does that word mean" argument is a good one... except that can happen on the street too... and it isn't illegal to say those words on the street, so likely your children will hear/see things on the street you don't want them exposed to either.

Part of parenting is dealing with those sorts of things... though I do sympathize when something comes at you from left field.

tsmacro
05-21-10, 12:59 PM
Come on people!! Don't you realize this is right smack in "family hour"? And what do you think burgeoning young readers are going to ask their parents when they see that title while looking through the guide? "Mommy, what does that funny looking word mean?" I can't believe we have become so lax that we have come to the point that practically all the shows on at family hour are full of sexual innuendos, partial nudity, etc.

Take Chuck. I love Chuck, but I cannot watch it with my 4 year old near. The scenes of Sarah in her lingerie are actually pretty risque for 8:00. My daughter is just at the stage where we are teaching her it is not really okay to run around naked everywhere she wants to and that her body is private. Chuck is pretty much the antithesis of that notion.

I have no problem with people watching what they want when they want, but the rules surrounding parenting should be equal then. We assume that parents aren't parenting in the schools, so now schools are surrogate parents. Why does TV get a free pass? Those same parents are not parenting in the home either, so cater to the lowest comment denominator in the entertainment world as well.

If this were the olden days of no tech, when there was no guide on the TV and you had to get your information from a paper source, it would not matter as much. Your child would probably not ever see the title and not ask the question. But the polluting of the 8:00 hour of television has really been a pet peeve of mine for a while.

Yeah growing up my mother tried to "protect me" from anything she considered inappropriate too. Luckily my dad would just straight out tell me about the "inappropriate" stuff when I saw it. Probably why they ended up divorced. :lol: But if there was something on that for example had a woman showing "too much skin" he just say something like "They do that just because they know men like to look at women and it's an easy trick to try get you to watch". Message received. As for "bad" language once again i'd get the explanation that it was just a way for people who aren't very smart to try to get attention and that there are better ways to get your message across, especially if you ever wanted anyone to take you seriously. As I got older and i'd be watching movies say like oh "Porky's" lets just say, I'd be told how in that movie the women were portrayed as only being good for one thing and that i'd be smart not to make that mistake in real life. I ended up a pretty well adjusted human being I think because my father did take an active role in giving me good explanations for what I saw in the world in general and the entertainment wolrd on tv as well. Personally I think it gives parents more "teachable moments" when they push the envelope as to what is considered acceptable. Time to step up Mom & Dad and do your job!

Jon J
05-21-10, 01:37 PM
Really? And so beside the point.Wrong. Exactly on point. Your question was what to tell a child the symbols meant. If you need a more comprehensive explanation just let me know.

Supramom2000
05-21-10, 02:21 PM
Wrong. Exactly on point. Your question was what to tell a child the symbols meant. If you need a more comprehensive explanation just let me know.

And sarcasm advances things so well...

I said the point was that this did not need to be on at family hour. That was the point.

I agree with all the explanations that can be given to kids as Tsmacro explained. But none of that would be needed if they just saved all that for 9:00. That was my WHOLE POINT! Plus, again you are relying on a parent to give appropriate answers or even be there at all. I mentioned that public school does not make that assumption. So why does public television?

And a child would not really be a burgeoning reader if they understood the explanations that you were given. They would be a bit older than my example.

RunnerFL
05-21-10, 04:55 PM
Come on people!! Don't you realize this is right smack in "family hour"? And what do you think burgeoning young readers are going to ask their parents when they see that title while looking through the guide? "Mommy, what does that funny looking word mean?"

Easy answer, "You'll find out when you get older".

I do not think that TV should be relied upon to raise kids. Parents, and I'm not singling you out by any means Supramom, should find out about what's on TV and decide what their children should and should not watch. It's not up to the networks to decide what children should and shouldn't see, they aren't raising people's kids. I personally am getting tired of the watering down of TV shows just because someone's precious snowflake might see it.

If you want to watch the show and not have your kids ask questions about it then record it and watch it after your children have gone to bed.

RunnerFL
05-21-10, 04:58 PM
And sarcasm advances things so well...

I said the point was that this did not need to be on at family hour. That was the point.


But what is "family hour"? I've never seen slots of TV time defined as "family hour". I think "family hour" an urban legend personally. Too many parents are using TV as a babysitter.

Stewart Vernon
05-21-10, 05:48 PM
When I was a kid, the 7-8pm timeslot EST was typically "family hour"... especially on Sundays.

Now it seems like regular syndicated programming in those timeslots... so I wouldn't assume something is family friendly just because of the time of day when it comes on.

The tabloid shows, for example, like Springer come on right about the time kids get home from school! I'd be much more concerned about a kid seeing one of those shows than I would something on during primetime.

phrelin
05-21-10, 05:49 PM
Hmmm. Well, back in the dark ages of TV 8 to 9 was still considered within the family friendly window. Consider this prime time schedule:

http://www.superseventies.com/primetime_77.gif

The schedule (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985%E2%80%9386_United_States_network_television_s chedule) was still pretty family friendly in 1985-86.

But Fox, with its two hour prime time, lack of sense of propriety, and "will do anything for money" attitude, pretty much did that in. For instance, beginning in April 1987, "Married... with Children" premiered at 8 pm.

By 1998-99 while Fox ran "The Simpsons" at 8 pm on Sunday, ABC was running "The Wonderful World of Disney" and CBS was running "Touched by an Angel."

By 1998-99 while Fox ran "Melrose Place" at 8 pm on Monday, CBS was running "Cosby" and NBC was running "Suddenly Susan."

To avoid boring everyone, I'll just point out that on Tuesday Fox was running "King of the Hill", Wednesday "Beverly Hills, 90210", Thursday "World's Wildest Police Videos".

At that point, every network was confronted with a new standard - a lower standard designed to attract TV audiences.

And that's the way it was....

Stewart Vernon
05-21-10, 06:07 PM
I don't know... "Happy Days" and "Lavern & Shirley" kind of featured unmarried polygamous sex-romp references with the Fonz especially.

Not saying I found it offensive... but you'd certainly need to explain some things to kids watching those shows back in the day.

trainman
05-21-10, 09:21 PM
And what do you think burgeoning young readers are going to ask their parents when they see that title while looking through the guide? "Mommy, what does that funny looking word mean?"

If the official title really does stay as "$#*! My Dad Says," I have a feeling the on-screen guides are going to have it beginning with an ellipsis, as "...My Dad Says," or perhaps just "My Dad Says." # and especially * strike me as possibly being problematic characters if they were to occur within the electronic listings data feeds (I can see newspapers having issues with them).

James Long
05-21-10, 10:06 PM
"Mommy, what does that funny looking word mean?"Why does it seem "mature language" is so childish?
When children swear are they acting "mature"?

I was taught that people who used such words had a limited vocabulary and were not smart enough to come up with a better word. :)

Welcome to the real world, child. Sometimes what people say sucks. Sometimes it blows. Sometimes it makes you want to turn off the TV and do something else - like read a book. How about Catcher in the Rye?

SamC
05-22-10, 05:54 AM
No opinon on the cussing deal. Don't care.

CBS is clearly trying the hardest of the OTA networks.

Hawaii Five-0 could be great, if they follow the original formula.

Trying to start a comedy block on Thursday by moving a good established show there is a great idea.

Mike and Molly and the Shatner show both seem to have potential.

Only two hours of faux-reality. This silly genre is dying. Great.

As to the cancelations, I never liked Old Christine. It seemed like someone actually said "lets make a show so we can sell it to TBS in reruns someday". Accedentally on Purpose was gross and stupid, and what exactly do they do with the premise when the baby is born. Being an irresponsible layabout who knocks up some woman is one thing, and can be played funny, but being an irresponsible layabout who won't care for his child is not.

djlong
05-24-10, 07:00 AM
You don't see anything on "Chuck" that you can't see on ANY beach ANY time the temperature is over 72 degrees. Oh - but because she's walking around a hotel room, this is somehow worse? And as far as the title of the other show - I've had the kids ask about stuff like that - heck you see it in the COMICS in the NEWSPAPER. My girls are now 22 & 17 and when they asked, I explained it - it was adults saying things they shouldn't have. Simple as that.

Heck, these days you'd have more trouble explaining why Lucy and Ricky slept in separate bed.

Marlin Guy
05-24-10, 10:50 AM
Survivor moves to Wednesday? :nono2:

James Long
05-24-10, 11:10 AM
You don't see anything on "Chuck" that you can't see on ANY beach ANY time the temperature is over 72 degrees. Oh - but because she's walking around a hotel room, this is somehow worse?It just mirrors our society.

I saw a show on The Travel Channel yesterday about beach attire ... for guys apparently "board shorts" are in if one has abs - speedos (banana hammocks) are out regardless of fitness level (but especially worn by people who are not physically fit). For women one also has to have the body to show to make a more revealing suit look good. If the tummy is more fat than flat consider a one piece (and no, not just one piece of a bikini - that's a different show).

I'd bet that if any of the people shown with revealing swimsuits were in their underwear they would be escorted off the beach. Or at least have someone check in to their mental health. If you don't believe me, try it. Walk around the block in swim trunks then walk the same route in your underwear. Even if you are a smoking hot babe like "Sarah" when the move is made from bikini to lingerie the opinion of society will move from "that's odd" to "that's crazy".

Perhaps society needs reprogramming (and TV is certainly doing it's best to reprogram us!) but there are norms that most follow. It is amazing how much we allow in to our homes during "family hours" on TV that we would hide children from if it were going on live in front of them. Innocence lost?

phrelin
05-24-10, 11:28 AM
Survivor moves to Wednesday? :nono2:Yes, I noticed that too even though we don't watch it. I guess by anchoring Wednesday with "Survivor" and presumably scheduling a two-hour premier against the other networks which seem to me to be weak (unless NBC's "Undercovers" can draw an audience at 8 pm) they hope to not lose Wednesday's total live viewing audience share.

What's happened is that at 9 pm CBS "Criminal Minds" police procedural is going to continue to be opposite ABC's hit comedy "Modern Family", NBC's police procedural "Law & Order: SVU" and Fox's reality show "Hell's Kitchen" which will be replaced with "Glee" midseason.

But at 10 pm all three networks (ABC, CBS, NBC) have new shows.

I'm not sure how that strategy will work for them. TV by the Numbers' Robert Seidman expressed this less complicated opinion (http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/05/23/sorry-nellie-the-big-bang-theorys-move-isnt-about-becoming-the-next-friends-its-about-much-better-wednesdays/52179) yesterday: CBS won’t shed any tears if it does become the next Friends, but it won’t shed any if it doesn’t either. I too am sure that CBS didn’t go through all that trouble to get only marginal improvements on Thursdays. But that’s not because CBS hopes for big gains on Thursdays, it’s because it can already count on huge ratings gains on Wednesday from 8pm-9pm.

Marginal improvement to Thursday could more or less cancel out a marginal loss on Mondays, but if Survivor holds up, the ratings gains at 8pm versus the mediocre Wednesday comedy block will be much more than marginal gains. Even if Survivor only averages a 3.0 rating with adults 18-49 it will be about 50% better. And Heroes vs. Villains hovered around a 4.0. A 4.0 on Wednesdays at 8pm would be nearly a 100% improvement. That’s the big ratings bang for CBS in this move.

RunnerFL
05-24-10, 01:53 PM
Heck, these days you'd have more trouble explaining why Lucy and Ricky slept in separate bed.

Very true!