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scottchez
08-18-03, 02:46 PM
You see all those different HDTV models out there.

Some, like sony claim they can convert 720p other claim compatibily with other settings.

Question:

Does it really matter?

Wont the new 811 recevier and Dishnetwork just do the conversion for you and send it to the TV with the 1080i if avlaible anyway?

Does this change if you connect it with a DVI port?

Confused . . .

Cyclone
08-18-03, 03:55 PM
I'm guessing its better to try and not convert if possible. If TV support both, and your Tuner supports Both. Then try and match the broadcaster. ABC/ESPN 720p, Everyone else 1080i.

dmodemd
08-19-03, 07:45 AM
Don't forget FOX in 2004 : 720p ;)

scottchez
08-20-03, 09:54 AM
A lot of the new 2004 model TV do not do 720P.

Example: the new Sony models can convert it.


The new Mitsubishi models (ending in the number 13) CAN NOT convert it.


What will the two new dish receivers do? Up convert it to 1080i or down convert it?

What about Direct TV?

Bobby94928
08-20-03, 01:20 PM
A lot of the new 2004 model TV do not do 720P.

Example: the new Sony models can convert it.


The new Mitsubishi models (ending in the number 13) CAN NOT convert it.


What will the two new dish receivers do? Up convert it to 1080i or down convert it?

What about Direct TV?

The 6000 will output 720P or 1080I. I'm sure the new models will do the same. I get my ABC over the air and the 6000 upconverts it to 1080I because that's how my 6000 is set up.

Bobby C

brentp
08-20-03, 02:46 PM
A general rule of thumb, . . . it is best to keep the picture native if at all possible (eg; if your Display handles & displays native 720p, than keep it that way from the 720p sources [ABC/ESPN/Fox soon]). If the display can only accept 1080i, or converts 720p input to another format, say 1080i (as in the case of my Hitachi), . . . then it is best to allow the newest and/or more expensive component do the conversion. This is based on the processing that has to be done to perform the conversion, . . . and typically the newer and/or more expensive units will have better algorithms to do it. If you can stay native, obviously you avoid the conversion all together, that is why it is best if possible.

I my case, if I am watching a critical game on ABC (like last year's Superbowl), I usually set up my 6000 to output 720p and allow my display to convert. The 6000 is very old technology where my display is a top of the line Hitachi from last year with excellent conversion processing.

Now to your question, . . . does it really matter if you HDTV can convert? Truth is not really as long as your STB can to the conversion, its output is compatible with your HDTV, and you are happy with the results.

The change from SD to HD is huge, very noticeable, and sharp. The 6000 (and likely the 811 or 921) will output in either format. It will even upconvert 480i programming (SD) to those formats, not that that helps any, but it does allow you to use a single connection from the STB to the HDTV. The tweaks on going from 720p to/from 1080i is just that, . . . a tweak, and is subjective if there is much added benefit or not. FYI, there is a huge debate right now on which format is better; 720p or 1080i, . . . although most have settled on 720p is better for fast action (like sports) where 1080i is better for more static items (like most shows and movies).

So, . . . don't be confused, when you get HD in either 720p or 1080i, . . . you will appreciated any HD content that you see displayed that way.