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The wife finally agreed to getting an HDTV, a really nice one at that. Being a Dish subscriber, and having heard all the great stuff about Dish's commitment to HDTV, I assumed it would be a simple matter to get an HDTV signal to my brand new Sony 34XBR910. WRONG!
Going online to order a receiver, I find out that although Dish manufactures (or ousources) an HDTV receiver, Dish no longer sells the receiver directly. Subscribers are directed to contact a retailer. Contacting the retailers, I find out that the 6000 receivers are actually discontinued and out of stock. The good news is that they are being replaced by the 811 receiver. The bad news is that the 811, rumored to have been available by early summer, still hasn't shipped and nobody really knows when it will be available.
Then I am told about this fantastic, award winning PVR921 that will allow me to record HD programming to watch at my leisure and I figure, Great! Give me the PVR921, the wife will be thrilled at being able to skip commercials. But then more bad news. The award apparently had nothing to do with actually delivering the product to Dish subscribers.
So here is my conundrum. Do I sit and watch Dish's regular programming (lovingly holding hands with my bride as she repeatedly asks "Whats so great about this $2,500 TV?) or do I sign up with Direct TV?
I'm very interested in how you guys would sort out my dilemna.
Thanks for your input.
Ed Mc
tds4182
08-21-03, 04:10 PM
Ed, I also got tired of waiting and felt really insulted by the last Charlie Chat. I switched to D* and bought a Sony SAT 200 HD receiver and I couldn't be happier. The picture quality on the Sony HD receiver is great--like looking through a window. The only gripe I have is that D* doesn't have their channels grouped together as well as E*. Other than that, I'm glad I made the switch.
[The wife finally agreed to getting an HDTV, a really nice one at that. Being a Dish subscriber, and having heard all the great stuff about Dish's commitment to HDTV, I assumed it would be a simple matter to get an HDTV signal to my brand new Sony 34XBR910. WRONG!
Going online to order a receiver, I find out that although Dish manufactures (or ousources) an HDTV receiver, Dish no longer sells the receiver directly. Subscribers are directed to contact a retailer. Contacting the retailers, I find out that the 6000 receivers are actually discontinued and out of stock. The good news is that they are being replaced by the 811 receiver. The bad news is that the 811, rumored to have been available by early summer, still hasn't shipped and nobody really knows when it will be available.
Then I am told about this fantastic, award winning PVR921 that will allow me to record HD programming to watch at my leisure and I figure, Great! Give me the PVR921, the wife will be thrilled at being able to skip commercials. But then more bad news. The award apparently had nothing to do with actually delivering the product to Dish subscribers.
So here is my conundrum. Do I sit and watch Dish's regular programming (lovingly holding hands with my bride as she repeatedly asks "Whats so great about this $2,500 TV?) or do I sign up with Direct TV?
I'm very interested in how you guys would sort out my dilemna.
Thanks for your input.
Ed Mc
Ed sit tight and wait a couple more months. I wouldn't rush into anything, you might regret it later. Watch some DVD's to "show off" the TV.
Think long term!
Chris Freeland
08-21-03, 04:27 PM
Ed, do what Timco said, it sounds like you have an intelligent wife, she will understand ;) .
Welcome, Ed! :hi:
What is your location, and do you know if you can receive broadcast HD from stations in your area?
You can check out broadcast stations in your area here (www.antennaweb.org)
I'm in Atlanta. I know we have a good amount of HD being broadcast for free, but then the issue becomes one of investing in an HD receiver that I wouldn't be able to use with either D TV or Dish to pick up that programming.
Mark Lamutt
08-21-03, 05:20 PM
Ed, welcome to DBSTalk! :hi:
The 811 receiver should be available and shipping by this time next month, and will be priced at $299 (or so it's been reported). Most of the Directv HD receivers cost almost double that. If you can hold out for another month or so, I would. If not, then about your only options are to pick up a 6000 receiver off of ebay (running around $550-$575 right now) or to switch to Directv. I've heard that Directv is offering an HD incentive to new customers, but don't know exactly what the deal is. I think it's been posted about on here, and know for sure that it's been posted over at AVSForums.
jbuell1
08-21-03, 05:42 PM
1 in hand is worth 2 in the bush. Never has this applied more than with E*
Go "rent" a HD off the air receiver from a consumer electronics store that has a good return policy like Circuit City or Best Buy. This will be able to hold you off for the time being and will get you the free channels until the 811 is available.
belsokar
08-21-03, 06:05 PM
don't buy the tv yet! I bought mine last year, expecting something to come along...if i were you, i'd hold off on the tv set, and wait for some good x-mas deals,...hopefully by then, you'll have some equipment available...there's nothing worse than watching SD on and High def set...dvd's are great, so if you do alot of movie watching,...then it might be worth it, otherwise, wait for a good xmas sale...
Not sure about this idea, but does your local cable company offer a HDTV box? If so, just get that for a month or two. Then make a decision what to do next.
If I end up buying an hdtv soon, I'll probalby do the same thing, especially if they have a good intro offer.
Unthinkable
08-21-03, 09:15 PM
Play some High Definition videogames now while waiting for either the 811 or 921 to come out.
http://www.hdtvpub.com/games/index.cfm
Marko,
Cable isn't an option we can consider. To connect to the cable would require a 200 foot wire running from the pole on the street, across our lot, to the side of the house. It would look a lot like a gigantic clothes line.
Thanks for the thought though!
Hi ED,
I also live in Atlanta, a Dish Network subscriber and I also purchased a SONY KV-34XBR910 last Saturday. Unfortunately you and I are in the same boat and I understand exactly your frustration. I spent about an hour talking to Dish and local retailers in an effort to find an acceptable solution to this dilemma. As you discovered new 6000 receivers are extremely rare or just do not exist.
There appear to be two options available if you want to be a Dish HDTV customer. One is to buy a used 6000 on ebay and the other is to wait for the introduction of the 811 or 921. If I purchase a used 6000 I will want to upgrade to a newer receiver (921) as soon as it is available. The value of the 6000 will decrease significantly when the new receivers are released especially if the 811 retails for $299.00. I look at this option as a money throw away and find it unacceptable. If I remain a Dish customer I find that I am left with waiting which is also unacceptable unless the wait is not and extended period of time.
I have decided to wait for the next Charlie chat, which I believe is September 8, before I make a final decision. I find it unbelievable that Dish has put itself in a position that prohibits its customers from ordering equipment necessary to receive all of its products. There is always Comcast. But I can assure you they I am considering them only as a last resort. I am so frustrated at this point that the new set is still in the box.
Rodney,
Think of the customers Dish is losing by not having a viable HD option available just as HDTV is gaining traction. I'm going to wait and see if Dish gives me a way to receive HDTV by the end of September. If the 811 is available by the end of September, I'll get that. That is unless the 921 is available, or will beavailable within a couple of weeks from when the 811 is available.
The prospect of watching the HD content you want when you want is very compelling, and as far as I can tell, nobody offers that option yet. So if that option is available by October I'll wait.
If Dish doesn't offer the 811 by the end of September, I'll go somewhere else, wait six months, and let Dish offer me some incentives to come back!
ibglowin
08-22-03, 07:27 AM
I am so frustrated at this point that the new set is still in the box.
Your kidding right? Geeze, get the TV set up! DVD's look great till you get your HD source. I felt the same way you did last year at this time. SD looks pretty good as long as your TV is 45" or less. Above that and SD looks pretty sad.
Dish is going to sell 811's as fast as they can make em if the price really is $299. All the Dircect receivers seem to be $499 and up unless you get the new HD special for new customers.
Don't hold your breath waiting on the 921 but the 811 coming out next month is almost a sure thing (which may not be saying much since we are talking about Dish!) :lol:
I just had a disturbing thought. This is based on logic so it may not apply to Dish, but lets see what everyone thinks.
If a lot of people are asking the same question e.g. when is ???? going to be shipping? and instead of an answer you get a reply like, wait until next month's Charlie chat, the logical assumption is that Dish either doesn't really have a clue as to when they will be available, or they won't be available for quite some time. Otherwise they would seek to calm the customers by answering the question directly. I may have to rethink whether I want to wait three weeks for the next chat, just to be told then that Dish has "GREAT NEWS! The 811 will be available in limited quantities, perhaps as soon as the end of next month. Watch the next Charlie chat for further details!"
Jerry G
08-22-03, 07:54 AM
Otherwise they would seek to calm the customers by answering the question directly. I may have to rethink whether I want to wait three weeks for the next chat, just to be told then that Dish has "GREAT NEWS! The 811 will be available in limited quantities, perhaps as soon as the end of next month. Watch the next Charlie chat for further details!"
I think many are in this same situation. I'm trying to hold off switching to DirecTV until the Sept chat. But if Dish doesn't give absolute specific dates as to when the Superdish, 811, and the new HD channels will be available (and these dates must be by Oct 1), I think many people, including myself, will immediately cancel Dish and move to DirecTV.
ride525
08-22-03, 08:12 AM
I just had a disturbing thought. This is based on logic so it may not apply to Dish, but lets see what everyone thinks.
If a lot of people are asking the same question e.g. when is ???? going to be shipping? and instead of an answer you get a reply like, wait until next month's Charlie chat, the logical assumption is that Dish either doesn't really have a clue as to when they will be available, or they won't be available for quite some time. Otherwise they would seek to calm the customers by answering the question directly. I may have to rethink whether I want to wait three weeks for the next chat, just to be told then that Dish has "GREAT NEWS! The 811 will be available in limited quantities, perhaps as soon as the end of next month. Watch the next Charlie chat for further details!"
I've been thinking the same thing.....I wonder why Dish won't tell more specifically when SuperDish and 811 are rolling out. It makes me wonder if no news, is just a delay.....
I've been thinking the same thing.....I wonder why Dish won't tell more specifically when SuperDish and 811 are rolling out. It makes me wonder if no news, is just a delay.....The answer to the lack of a specific date is pretty simple. It is dependent upon the AMC Sat @105 being ready and delivery of antennas from vendors, and production of switches.
There's going to be a mini-summit for retailers early next month to go over installation procedures.
They have said pretty frequently lately that the eqmt will start to role out in Oct. Granted, there are 30 days in the month of Oct. but considering all the production, shipping & engineering issues I don't see how they could be more specific.
What if they guarenteed that SuperDish will ship on Oct. 10? You couldn't get one & have it installed that day or the next day or the next day so what difference does it make?
The point is that we do know that by sometime around the latter half of Oct. or early Nov. DISH HD customers will have as many or more HD channels as DirecTV. The impatient ones that churn over to D* today will be the sorry ones soon.
jbuell1
08-22-03, 03:35 PM
There are always thoughts and theories surrounding when E* will have their HD up to at least the D* level. But, why doesn't E* outline it instead of having everyone guess? There have been a number of excellent replies posted here that could be correct. If only E* would take the time to put out a press release, which is clearly thought out and not seat of the pant on a Charlie Chat. But, the Charlie Chat's are ambigous and lead us to ask more questions. E* could cure problems for their serious HD customers by providing a detailed plan and issues that they are working around which would clear up much of the confusion. This would keep more customers in the long run, if the product they are putting out will eventually lead the market, than would leave them for a 2/3 month delay.
The point is that we do know that by sometime around the latter half of Oct. or early Nov. DISH HD customers will have as many or more HD channels as DirecTV. The impatient ones that churn over to D* today will be the sorry ones soon.Well, if Dish only has "as many" channels as DirecTV, many people will wonder why they waited all this time. Many enthusiasts will not be happy if Echostar announces what they could have had on DirecTV three or four months before. Dish needs to show customers that the Superdish was worth the wait, and only a superior HD offering will do that.
tds4182
08-22-03, 05:09 PM
I am one of the "impatient ones" who churned to D*. I had been a loyal E* customer since 1997. I wanted to be able to watch football in HD this season and I couldn't get a straight answer from anyone at E* concerning when their new HD receivers and HD package was going to become available. I also feel that E* tends to take its loyal customer base for granted. Whenever you have the CEO of E* going on his own "Charlie Chat" and telling a significant portion of his customer base that essentially "if they don't like it, switch to D*" (because they want to watch football in HD), that's not good business.
I now have what I wanted, a great HD package, a great HD receiver, and by the time I sell all my E* equipment on E-Bay I'll just about break even and I'll be watching football this fall from the very first game.
The old adage that "a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush" seems to apply here.
Don't mean to start an argument. Everyone needs to do what is best for them in their particular circumstance.
The answer to the lack of a specific date is pretty simple. It is dependent upon the AMC Sat @105 being ready and delivery of antennas from vendors, and production of switches.
There's going to be a mini-summit for retailers early next month to go over installation procedures.
They have said pretty frequently lately that the eqmt will start to role out in Oct. Granted, there are 30 days in the month of Oct. but considering all the production, shipping & engineering issues I don't see how they could be more specific.
What if they guarenteed that SuperDish will ship on Oct. 10? You couldn't get one & have it installed that day or the next day or the next day so what difference does it make?
The point is that we do know that by sometime around the latter half of Oct. or early Nov. DISH HD customers will have as many or more HD channels as DirecTV. The impatient ones that churn over to D* today will be the sorry ones soon.
I am one of the "impatient ones" who churned to D*. I had been a loyal E* customer since 1997. I wanted to be able to watch football in HD this season and I couldn't get a straight answer from anyone at E* concerning when their new HD receivers and HD package was going to become available. I also feel that E* tends to take its loyal customer base for granted. Whenever you have the CEO of E* going on his own "Charlie Chat" and telling a significant portion of his customer base that essentially "if they don't like it, switch to D*" (because they want to watch football in HD), that's not good business.
I now have what I wanted, a great HD package, a great HD receiver, and by the time I sell all my E* equipment on E-Bay I'll just about break even and I'll be watching football this fall from the very first game.
The old adage that "a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush" seems to apply here.
Don't mean to start an argument. Everyone needs to do what is best for them in their particular circumstance.I'm not going to argue with you. If you couldn't wait that's your decision and you're entitled to it.
Well, if Dish only has "as many" channels as DirecTV, many people will wonder why they waited all this time. Many enthusiasts will not be happy if Echostar announces what they could have had on DirecTV three or four months before. Dish needs to show customers that the Superdish was worth the wait, and only a superior HD offering will do that. I expect that with BRAVO as well as CBS for those that qualify DISH will be a channel or 2 ahead of D* to start. But, longterm, they have more capacity. When networks like A&E and DISNEY go HD E* will be ready. And they're trying to get other majors like ABC to come on board, too.
But having said all this, being a Raiders fan, I certainly plan to be at my buddy's house to watch the season opener on ESPN-HD. ;)
GreyGhost00
08-22-03, 07:25 PM
The point is that we do know that by sometime around the latter half of Oct. or early Nov. DISH HD customers will have as many or more HD channels as DirecTV. The impatient ones that churn over to D* today will be the sorry ones soon.
Well let's see. I will have at least a couple of months of HD while E* plays their same game. I will have a second generation HD box that I get to choose from several proven vendors. I will have a proven one-dish solution. I will have at least one additional HD NFL game each week all season as well as at least one Fox widescreen game. I will likely have a superior HD PVR machine when the DirecTivo is released. And I will have the satisfaction of knowing that whatever Dish does will be met in short order by D*, and probably more once Rupert gets control.
I will be sorry soon - sorry for the folks who waited just to hear that E* is simply catching up with D*. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice ... well you get the picture (but not in HD from E*).
Welcome Rodney! :hi:
Joined: Aug 22, 2003
Location: Atlanta
User #3339
As you discovered new 6000 receivers are extremely rare or just do not exist.
Radio Shack claims to have the model 6000 in stock on their website. You might try that.
Radio Shack does not have the 6000 in stock. I tried the web site and was directed to the local Radio Shack stores in Atlanta. The local store had none, and searched the metro stores and found none.
Originally Posted by HTguy
The answer to the lack of a specific date is pretty simple. It is dependent upon the AMC Sat @105 being ready and delivery of antennas from vendors, and production of switches.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE AMC SAT @ 105 HAS TO DO WITH WHEN THE 811 or 921 CAN BE DELIVERED>
They have said pretty frequently lately that the eqmt will start to role out in Oct. Granted, there are 30 days in the month of Oct. but considering all the production, shipping & engineering issues I don't see how they could be more specific.
WHO IS "THEY" AND WHERE HAVE THEY SAID IT?
What if they guarenteed that SuperDish will ship on Oct. 10? You couldn't get one & have it installed that day or the next day or the next day so what difference does it make?
ALTHOUGH I'M NOT WAITING ON THE SUPER DISH, THE OBVIOUS DIFFERENCE IS I WOULD KNOW WHEN THE PRODUCT WAS AVAILABLE TO BE ORDERED. USING A CONCERT AS AN ANALOGY, THERE IS CONSIDERABLE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BEING TOLD THAT THE ROLLING STONES WILL BE TOURING THE UNITED STATES IN 2003, AND BEING TOLD THAT THE STONES HAVE SCHEDULED A CONCERT IN YOUR TOWN ON A SPECIFIC DATE AND TICKETS WILL BE ON SALE FRIDAY MORNING.
The point is that we do know that by sometime around the latter half of Oct. or early Nov. DISH HD customers will have as many or more HD channels as DirecTV. The impatient ones that churn over to D* today will be the sorry ones soon.
PAST EXPERIENCE INDICATES THAT THOSE THAT LEAVE ARE ACTUALLY ENTICED TO RETURN WITH SPECIAL OFFERS THAT ARE UNAVAILABLE TO CURRENT SUBSCRIBERS
P.S. I'm only using bold letters to differentiate betwwen the previous post and my observations.
dswallow
08-23-03, 11:18 AM
P.S. I'm only using bold letters to differentiate betwwen the previous post and my observations.
Actually you're using CAPITAL LETTERS, not bold letters to differentiate, instead of using the [ quote ] tag as it's intended. :)
Anyway, at the moment, there's not too many more HD channels in existence than DirecTV offers. And when there are, if/when Dish carries them, then it would be appropriate to review any decision someone made about switching.
Competition is moderately stifled between the satellite providers by the need to purchase expensive (especially for HD) equipment. Once one has both, the matter of switching providers then becomes only an issue of contractual commitments and it's easy enough to balance subscribed programming between both providers without doubling ones costs.
The answer to the lack of a specific date is pretty simple. It is dependent upon the AMC Sat @105 being ready and delivery of antennas from vendors, and production of switches.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE AMC SAT @ 105 HAS TO DO WITH WHEN THE 811 or 921 CAN BE DELIVERED>
They have said pretty frequently lately that the eqmt will start to role out in Oct. Granted, there are 30 days in the month of Oct. but considering all the production, shipping & engineering issues I don't see how they could be more specific.
WHO IS "THEY" AND WHERE HAVE THEY SAID IT?The 811 is going to roll out with SuperDish. They want to test it with the SuperDish hardware (antenna & 3 slot LNBF) at all 3 satellite orbital positions before the package ships. And the 1st lot will fill backorders to retailers that have ordered the HDTV/SD/811 package for demo & for new customers. The 921 will roll out between the end of Oct. and early Dec. (if the engineering dept can get it done in time.)
"THEY" are Charlie Ergan (CEO), Jim DeFranco (Exec. VP), Amir Ahmed ( Nat'l VP, Sales & Dist) and Erik Carlson (VP-Sales/Retail Services). They said it in broadcasts and emails to retailers during the last month and in a consumer "Charlie Chat" last week.
You will get updated & get more details if you watch the next "Special HD" Charlie Chat on Ch 101 on Sept. 8.
Radio Shack does not have the 6000 in stock. I tried the web site and was directed to the local Radio Shack stores in Atlanta. The local store had none, and searched the metro stores and found none. No, you're not going to find 6000s at Radio Shack, Wall*Mart, Sears or CostCo. They are sold by independent retailers. I still have one in inventory (which will probably be gone within a week or so.) I'm sure some other local independents around the country do too.
Jerry G
08-23-03, 02:58 PM
The 811 is going to roll out with SuperDish. They want to test it with the SuperDish hardware (antenna & 3 slot LNBF) at all 3 satellite orbital positions before the package ships. And the 1st lot will fill backorders to retailers that have ordered the HDTV/SD/811 package for demo & for new customers.
The Superdish will make the 5000 I have in a second location useless. Dish needs to consider those in a similar situation and make the 811 available to me at the same time the Superdish becomes available. And I won't wait on the Superdish as I've waited long enough for the new HD channels. So if there is no 811 for me, then my business goes to DirecTV.
The other solution is for Dish to put up the new HD channels on existing birds for two or three months. That solves all problems and allows an easy and relaxed transition to the Superdish instead of the mass stampede and confusion that will occur otherwise.
mnassour
08-23-03, 06:04 PM
Go by the same rules that we all tell first time DBS shoppers...go with the system that gives you the most bang for the buck.
...and I think you know who that is, since currently DishNetwork is firing with an empty cap pistol.
The other solution is for Dish to put up the new HD channels on existing birds for two or three months. That solves all problems and allows an easy and relaxed transition to the Superdish instead of the mass stampede and confusion that will occur otherwise.Well, many of us are in agreement on that!
Their "reasoning" here seems to be that if they put up the new HDs on the wing sats or 110 temporarily more people will be mad when they lose them and have to get the new hradware to see what they had before.
But I think the smart thing to do would be to at least put up HDNet on the wings in a "preview" mode for people with HD systems today. They could run frequent spots telling viewers they will need new hardware soon for this + addtional new channels.
The fact is that the majority of E* customers don't watch the chats or check out the forums. They don't have a clue about SuperDish yet.
scriabinop23
08-25-03, 01:33 AM
So here is my conundrum. Do I sit and watch Dish's regular programming (lovingly holding hands with my bride as she repeatedly asks "Whats so great about this $2,500 TV?) or do I sign up with Direct TV?
Ed Mc
Do yourself a favor and get an OTA tuner and don't worry too much right now about getting high def via satellite.
OR go cable to get HD.
DirecTV's HD feeds are so squeezed for bandwidth, thats probably not worth your time either.
Get a MyHD tuner card and set up your computer as a HD VCR. I do it and am very happy. My Dish PVR 508 takes care of my needs for satellite in the meanwhile.
dswallow
08-26-03, 01:07 AM
DirecTV's HD feeds are so squeezed for bandwidth, thats probably not worth your time either.
That's an unfair statement; it makes it sound like DirecTV HD feeds look like crap. That's very far from the case.
Cyclone
08-26-03, 08:15 AM
Yeah, we don't know how much more HD DirectTV can handle. They might be at their current capacity, or they might be able to stuff many more HD channels on their birds.
Do yourself a favor and get an OTA tuner and don't worry too much right now about getting high def via satellite.
OR go cable to get HD.
DirecTV's HD feeds are so squeezed for bandwidth, thats probably not worth your time either.
Get a MyHD tuner card and set up your computer as a HD VCR. I do it and am very happy. My Dish PVR 508 takes care of my needs for satellite in the meanwhile.Sound like a good idea. Would you post some links for HD on PC?
tia
Robert James Clark
08-27-03, 10:19 AM
Sound like a good idea. Would you post some links for HD on PC?
tia
Try here (http://www.digitalconnection.com/Products/Video/fusion2.asp)
DigitalConnections is an excellent store. Kei opened the store for me on New Year's Eve just so I could buy an HD card to watch the Rose Parade the next day...
DirecTV's HD feeds are so squeezed for bandwidth, thats probably not worth your time either.
What is your source for this blanket (and wrong) statement? I don't believe I have seen anyone say that they are horrible, nor has anyone stated that they aren't "true" HD. I am very, very happy with the HD channels I get with Directv, they are on par with what I get from the OTA networks.
I have seen exactly one program that had problems. And I imagine a running river with a flock of birds flying all on screen at the same time would make all but the most generous bandwidth allocation insufficient.
The Directv HD networks are great, and look incredible. I switched from Dish to get them, and haven't looked back. Refresh my memory...when was the last time any Dish only subscriber watched Bikini Destinations or an HD baseball game on ESPN?
Thought so.
Jeff
dtcarson
08-28-03, 12:44 PM
Do yourself a favor and get an OTA tuner and don't worry too much right now about getting high def via satellite.
OR go cable to get HD.
DirecTV's HD feeds are so squeezed for bandwidth, thats probably not worth your time either.
Get a MyHD tuner card and set up your computer as a HD VCR. I do it and am very happy. My Dish PVR 508 takes care of my needs for satellite in the meanwhile.
How does this work, with an OTA tuner? Or even with Direct, what do they offer wrt HD? Currently it's not an issue, but I plan to upgrade my tv soon, and while I do watch a lot of dvd's, it would be nice to have some HD content on tv. Is there some source a kind soul could point me to regarding HDTV [including tv choice, content, recievers, everything] for Dummies? The TV we currently have is about 7 years old, and if we're going to drop 1500-2500 on a TV, we won't be doing it again for quite a while, and I want to make sure I'm not painting myself into a corner with my purchases. I'm relatively new to Dish, my 12 month contract goes till Jan or Feb, and I'm on the DHP, so at that point I may either continue with Dish month to month, or see if I can get a new sub HD deal at Direct, but I honestly don't even know enough about it to know what to look for...
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