Glare screens

[forklifter]

I have the mitsu 48-313 Just wondering about whether to take off the glare screen and just how tender the screen is without it on I have no small children but I have dogs but they are not wild so to speak any thoughts on what I should do I guess I'm more curious as to how senstive the screen really is

[lastmanstanding]

I have the mitsu 48-313 Just wondering about whether to take off the glare screen and just how tender the screen is without it on I have no small children but I have dogs but they are not wild so to speak any thoughts on what I should do I guess I'm more curious as to how senstive the screen really is

Forklifter,

Why do you want rid of the glare screen? I have an older Pioneer, and the overscreen really improves black saturation to my eye, anyway.

LMS

[Gregg Loewen]

Greetings

The glare screen should always be removed to get the best image possible.

The screen underneath the "plexiglass" is call the lenticular screen. It is has texture of fine vertical lines which can be easily scratched. Also oil from your finger prints can easily be permanently added to the surface...so do not touch it!!

To clean the lenticular screen simply use a feather duster. If for some reason something becomes "incrusted" on the screen, use a soft damp cloth and gently move the cloth up and down (NEVER SIDE TO SIDE) until the crust is removed.

Regards

Gregg Loewen
www.lionav.com
Gregg@lionav.com

[Nick]

Apparently you have problems with reflections. I would suggest that you first check to see if you have any viable options for rearranging your viewing room to eliminate or minimize glare and/or refections.

Behind the protective "glare" screen is a non-reflective plastic lenticular screen. My new 53" Panasonic (PT-53WX42) comes standard without the protective screen. I have no kids or pets, so it works for me. Also, I arranged my HT room so that no glare, sunlight or direct artificial light shines on the screen. As far as room lighting goes, consider dark opaque shades for lamps and possibly adding dimmers; If windows are your problem, consider 'room-darkening' shades or miniblinds, or even lined draperies.

If you can remove the glare screen without damaging the screen frame then that is your personal decision. Just keep an eye on your dogs during showings of 'Animal Planet' and reruns of 'Lassie' ;)

Finally, be forewarned that removing the protective screen will almost certainly void any warranty you may have.

Good luck, and keep us posted...

Nick

[lastmanstanding]

Greetings

The glare screen should always be removed to get the best image possible.


Gregg,

Thanks for that. I'll try taking mine off and see how it looks.

LMS

[Chris Blount]

Hey Gregg,

Coming down to the San Antonio area any time soon?

[eichenberg]

I have a Mits 48" TV and I was told by the store that sold me the TV that the MFG warranty and extended warranties do not cover the any of the screens. Mine has 3. The protective, a Lenticular, then another one (do not recall the name). I learned all this the hard way. I removed my screen, then when moving the TV to a different area of the room ended up poking a hold in the lenticular screen. Called Mits to replace and they told me not covered. Call the store I bought from and told me same thing. Called Mits again to order a new screen and $160 later I have a new lenticular lens and I put the protective screen back on.

Jamie

[Gregg Loewen]

hi

Ill be in Houston / Austin in November...if your within 100 miles...Ill extend the road trip. Just send me an email.

There are traditionally 3 layers of screen.
1. the fresnel...this is the inside layer and is what the image is projected onto.
2. the lenticular layer...the middle layer and this is what forces the image forward
3. the glare screen....this is the useless layer (except for protection) that creates glare, adds extra blue to the image and makes your CRTs work 50-100% harder to pump the light through.

When I do a calibration, I do my best to sell the client on having the glare screen removed. I dont charge extra for doing so, and the difference in the image is HUGE or should I say STAGGERING!. As Jamie noted, a new lenticular screen costs around 125 -200 (depending on size, brand, and dealer vs wholesale cost). If you end up replacing the lenticular screen every year or so...is it a big deal, when there is such a HUGE (or did I already say STAGGERING) difference in picture quality with / without it?

Regards

Gregg Loewen
www.lionav.com
gregg@lionav.com

[lastmanstanding]

hi

Ill be in Houston / Austin in November...if your within 100 miles...Ill extend the road trip. Just send me an email.

There are traditionally 3 layers of screen.
1. the fresnel...this is the inside layer and is what the image is projected onto.
2. the lenticular layer...the middle layer and this is what forces the image forward
3. the glare screen....this is the useless layer (except for protection) that creates glare, adds extra blue to the image and makes your CRTs work 50-100% harder to pump the light through.

When I do a calibration, I do my best to sell the client on having the glare screen removed. I dont charge extra for doing so, and the difference in the image is HUGE or should I say STAGGERING!. As Jamie noted, a new lenticular screen costs around 125 -200 (depending on size, brand, and dealer vs wholesale cost). If you end up replacing the lenticular screen every year or so...is it a big deal, when there is such a HUGE (or did I already say STAGGERING) difference in picture quality with / without it?

Regards

Gregg Loewen
www.lionav.com
gregg@lionav.com


Thanks Gregg, that is really informative. When I installed the screen years ago, the black saturation really benefited (the set is 12 years old), so I thought I was doing good. My room has excellent light control, so brightness was not my central concern. I am looking forward to trying it without the screen.

Thanks again,

LMS

BTW- When I bought the set, I was told that a new screen was $2000, and that they were effectively unavailable. But that was 12 years ago. Things do change.

[marko]

Hey, I have a 48413, and after reading this, I decided to take the screen off. Maybe it is reading about it looking better that makes me think this, but I think it does look better. I was surprised when I took it off, how tinted the shield actually was. For some reason, my TWC cable picture seems better (after some slight adjustments to settings). But that is probably just me though.

Only problem is I do have kids though, so going to be a tough decision whether to keep it on or off. But I will enjoy it while it is off at least for a while.

[HTguy]

I have a Mits 48" TV and I was told by the store that sold me the TV that the MFG warranty and extended warranties do not cover the any of the screens. Mine has 3. The protective, a Lenticular, then another one (do not recall the name). I learned all this the hard way. I removed my screen, then when moving the TV to a different area of the room ended up poking a hold in the lenticular screen. Called Mits to replace and they told me not covered. Call the store I bought from and told me same thing. Called Mits again to order a new screen and $160 later I have a new lenticular lens and I put the protective screen back on.

JamieJamie, why would you expect a warranty replacement of a screen you poked a hole in? Warranties are for defects of manufacture, not accidents, misuse or abuse. And since a screen is either good or bad from the get-go it doesn't surprise me in the least that an "extended" warranty wouldn't cover them.

Just wondering.

Would you turn around & ask a car dealer for a warranty repair if someone runs into you as you drive a new car off the lot? A warranty isn't the same thing as insurance altho "extended" warranties are sold the same way.

[Sonnie Parker]

Hey Gregg,

YGM, Since I'm about to get hooked up the 6000u and our local networks are now beginning to broadcast digital I think it's time I get on your setup list and stay there.