Diagram of Phase III hookup

[B_H]

I've tried to understand how a D* Phase III dish with an intergrated 4X4 multiswitch works with a cascadable multiswitch. I've drawn a diagram HERE (http://webpages.charter.net/baseball/connection.htm). Would you knowledgable experts please take a look at it and note any corrections. (I don't know how close I have it). Thanks.

Sept 29, 2003 = New diagram posted with corrections.

[nuke]

I have a dumb question:

The 4 wires that come out of my phase-III dish with integrated switch are all the same, right? If I decided I needed a cascadable switch someday, it doesn't matter which wire goes where, does it?

[SpeedTrap47]

I've tried to understand how a D* Phase III dish with an intergrated 4X4 multiswitch works with a cascadable multiswitch. I've drawn a diagram HERE (http://webpages.charter.net/baseball/connection.htm). Would you knowledgable experts please take a look at it and note any corrections. (I don't know how close I have it). Thanks.
You are close. What you have drawn IS what is going on inside of the Phase 3 Multiswitch that is installed in the ARM.

All 4 outputs of the Phase 3 Integrated Multiswitch provide all 3 SAT outputs.

The only reason to ADD a cascadeable multiswitch is to drive more than 4 IRDs

[SpeedTrap47]

This is the diagram of the Phase 3 Dish with the Internal MultiSwitch.

You can receive any of the 3 SATS from each of the 4 outputs.

If you need more than 4 OUTPUTS you then must ADD an External CASCADEABLE Multiswitch.

[SpeedTrap47]

Here's your diagram

[SpeedTrap47]

I have a dumb question:

The 4 wires that come out of my phase-III dish with integrated switch are all the same, right? If I decided I needed a cascadable switch someday, it doesn't matter which wire goes where, does it?

No Multiswitches LOCK the inputs from the LNB's or upstream Multiswitches to specific values. In this case each of the 4 input lines will be locked to one of these (18V, 13V, 18V-22KhZ, 13V-22KhZ).

You have 4 cables coming from the dish it does not matter where they go on the downstream cascadeable multiswitch.

[B_H]

SpeedTrap47
Thanks for re-doing the diagram. And I DID miss the odd transponders 23-31 on the 119.

A question though. Why do the cascadable multiswitches label their inputs as 18V, 13V, 18V-22KhZ, 13V-22KhZ when it makes no difference which input lines goes to which connection? (I would assume the answer is: "just because".)

[SpeedTrap47]

SpeedTrap47
Thanks for re-doing the diagram. And I DID miss the odd transponders 23-31 on the 119.

A question though. Why do the cascadable multiswitches label their inputs as 18V, 13V, 18V-22KhZ, 13V-22KhZ when it makes no difference which input lines goes to which connection? (I would assume the answer is: "just because".)

Troubleshooting the multiswitch

[Richssat]

[QUOTE= question though. Why do the cascadable multiswitches label their inputs as 18V, 13V, 18V-22KhZ, 13V-22KhZ when it makes no difference which input lines goes to which connection? (I would assume the answer is: "just because".)
[/QUOTE]

Because the older dishes 18x24 have removable switches. With one of those kinds of dish it matters where the lines get plugged into the switch if you remove the switch and run the lines straight from each lnb to the proper port on the switch.

Also for people combining feeds from 2 or 3 seperate round dishes to deal with line of site issues or in fringe areas.

Rich

[B_H]

Thanks Richssat for the reply.

I've posted a new diagram HERE (http://webpages.charter.net/baseball/connection.htm).

I thought this might help those that don't know how this works. A picture is worth a thousand words.

BTW, when using 2 or 3 dishes, do I understand that a "CASCADABLE" multi-switch is needed?

[Richssat]

No, you would not need a cascadable switch when using more then one dish. Unless you were using several switches (like in a headend application).

A cascadable switch will work just fine in a non cascaded application.

Rich

[Novice]

Two tivo's and one basic would require a switch - is this correct??

[B_H]

2 Tivo's = 4 lines
1 Basic = 1 line
Total 5 lines.
Correct.

[abd4evr]

I am looking to set up a HD system and DirecTivo in a room that has only 2 runs of RG6 coming into it. Is it possible to run 2 lines from the integral multiswitch on my 3 sat. oval dish via my existing 2 rg6 runs to that room and then have a multiswitch to give me enough outputs to run the HD box and the TiVo? It would be a bear to get more lines to that room. I guess if that won't work, I can put the Tivo in a different room that is easier to wire.

Thanks!

[buzzdalf]

I am looking to set up a HD system and DirecTivo in a room that has only 2 runs of RG6 coming into it. Is it possible to run 2 lines from the integral multiswitch on my 3 sat. oval dish via my existing 2 rg6 runs to that room and then have a multiswitch to give me enough outputs to run the HD box and the TiVo? It would be a bear to get more lines to that room. I guess if that won't work, I can put the Tivo in a different room that is easier to wire.

Thanks!
I have the same question.
anyone??

[boba]

No you would need to feed 4 cables to a cascadable multi switch to get inputs from 101,110 &119 if you only wanted 101 you could do it but you would lose the High Definition TV signals.

[Nez]

I have just had a 3LNB dish with integrated switch installed. I already had the Terl BMS-58 5x8 multiswitch in place that previously only had my dual-LNB dish inputs connected to the Sat A inputs. Everything was fine. With the 4 inputs from the new dish's integrated switch connected to each of the 4 Terk inputs, I don't seem to be getting anything on even transponders. I have verified that each downfeed from the new dish is getting a signal on all three satellites by connecting them around the Terk.

My installer suggested the Terk is not compatible. Any ideas?

Thanks, Neil

[Nez]

Nevermind. I must have had an input connection lose somewhere as I have tried again this morning and everything is working perfectly. I read that all four inputs must be connected and I'm guessing I had one of those lose.

So, the Terk BMS-58 is compatible with an integrated multiswitch.

Thanks

[AztecRol]

Nevermind. I must have had an input connection lose somewhere as I have tried again this morning and everything is working perfectly. I read that all four inputs must be connected and I'm guessing I had one of those lose.

So, the Terk BMS-58 is compatible with an integrated multiswitch.

Thanks

I too have the Terk BMS-58 multi switch. I have a new phase three dish as well. I called
Terk tech support to make sure I hooked it up right. The Terk is 100% compatible with
the new Phase III dishes!! All you have to do is hook up one feed to each of the sat inputs
on the Terk. I currently have three reg sat rec's and one DirecTiVo hooked up. Next will
be my HiDef rec!!!