What, no East coast feeds!

[mmoran27]

I was under the understanding that there are no east coast feeds available under directv.

I signed up hopig to be able to catch the east coast feeds of some networks like NBC and CBS.

DirecTV said that if they offer local chanels, then you cannot get these feeds.

wtf?

Am I the only one upset about this?

[Pete K.]

Don't blame D*. It is your friendly neighborhood Congressperson and the
National Association of Broadcasters who are to blame for this.
You can always ask your local stations for waivers. If you are lucky,
you'll get them.

[cnsf]

On the East Coast in NYC, the only West Coast feed you can get is NBC.

All others Deny efficiently.

[Greg Bimson]

http://directvdnseligibility.decisionmark.com/app/AddressEntry.asp

Plug your address in here and see if you qualify. This is DirecTV's qualification database. If you are denied here, at least you'll know why. This page will show you the channels that claim you as a grade B consumer, if applicable, and therefore, the stations that would require waivers.

[mmoran27]

Would I not have to get the waivers from the New York Station? I got B ratings for most at my location, is a waiver to say that I can't pick up the locals good, so I need the use the NY station?

Please help to clear this up.

Also, does anyone know how I can get the Montel Williams show in SanDiego? It is not carried on any locals here, that is why I want to get some of the east coast feeds.

[n0qcu]

Would I not have to get the waivers from the New York Station? I got B ratings for most at my location, is a waiver to say that I can't pick up the locals good, so I need the use the NY station?

Please help to clear this up.


No, they waiver has to come from your local station. (they are WAVING their right to exclusivly provide you with the programing they carry)

[Pete K.]

You would get the waivers from your LOCAL stations. DirecTV can help
you apply for the waivers. Really, you have nothing to lose. Essentially,
you are arguing that you cannot receive a "watchable" local signal via
a rooftop antenna. If you are in a grade B contour, you may or may not
succeed but try anyway!

[cnsf]

If you truly cannot receive a television signal, you can request a signal test.

If you are found to have a poor signal at your home, you could get the feeds, but I don't think you can get both East and West. I think it's one or the other only.

[dishrich]

If you are found to have a poor signal at your home, you could get the feeds, but I don't think you can get both East and West. I think it's one or the other only.

Wrong, you CAN get either, or both, as long as you want to pay for EACH.

[spanishannouncetable]

If you truly cannot receive a television signal, you can request a signal test.

If you are found to have a poor signal at your home, you could get the feeds, but I don't think you can get both East and West. I think it's one or the other only.

I have Greensboro locals AND both NY & LA distants.

I rule :hurah:

[Richssat]

OR, you could tell them that your system is for a motorhome. Both D* and E* have RV exemptions. You do need to request paperwork for it and provide some information about the RV that you "own"

Not sure it would work, and not exactly honest but......

Rich

[DCSholtis]

I have Greensboro locals AND both NY & LA distants.

I rule :hurah:

and I have Cleveland locals AND both NY & LA distants......:D

[Karl Foster]

I have Fox east/west as well as my loca Fox. I still don't understand why, but I won't complain. It does cost $2 per month.

[SamC]

A little history might clear this up.

When the big dishes were first invented, nothing on them was scrambled at all. All was just free. Until enough dishes got out there that it cut into the profits of the broadcasters, so they scrambled them.

This, however, caused a problem for rural people. They could not get regular TV (NBC, CBS, ABC, Fox, etc) via antennas and either couldn't get cable, or didn't want it since they were getting better service via their dishes, except for the lack of the major networks.

The government response was the SHVA, which allowed people who could not get networks regularly to get them via dishes. But the dish companies just enforced this with a wink. If you said "I can't get over-the-air TV" they would sell you the alt feeds, with no check on it. This was OK until the number of dishes got so big that it started to affect the profits of the local stations people "should" have been watching.

So the local broadcasters sued. And they won and got an order that the dish companies had to enforce the SHVA so strictly that almost nobody would qualify for such service. Obviously, this again s***wed rural folk, and congress responded with the SHVIA. Under the SHVIA, the dish companies can sell you other locals (DirecTV uses NY and LA, really they could use any) if:

- you were getting them prior to the whole mess starting (grandfathering in long time dish owners)
- you live in a "white area", which is a place on a government map that they say can't get local TV
- you can pass a signal test, which is to say, you can prove the government map is wrong
- you own an RV
- your local stations grant you a "waiver"

And DBS companies could pick up local stations and re-sell those to you. About the 60 largest cities have this service.

Nowhere in the law, however, does it say that you couldn't get BOTH your own locals via dish and the out of town locals, if you lived in a "white area" but within a region where the dish companies offered locals. But that clearly is not the intension of the law. So you will see people saying "I get NY, LA, and Cleveland", but, rest assured, that is only temporary and when the number doing this reaches a high enough number to be a problem, they will be cut off.

In short, if you live in San Diego, and can get San Diego TV, either via the dish or via an antenna, that is what the law says you get. The feed program is "really" for people in rural area who don't get local TV for free like you do.

[ramblers]

DIRECTV NEEDS TO OFFER A SUPERSTAION PACKAGE LIKE THE DISHNETWORK.

iF THEY DID WE COULD GET KTLA AND WATCH la NEWS

[Bob Haller]

Some people "move" to a address to qualify for both.

[DCSholtis]

Some people "move" to a address to qualify for both.

Exactly thats how I got both plus my locals.

[George_T]

Did the signal test to see if I qualified for distants. DirecTV paid for the tests to be done (I had thought all along that I would have to pay if I didn't qualify for the feeds, but this was not the case). I qualified for the ABC distant feeds, but no others (which was surprising, given the poor quality of picture of the local CBS affiliate). I do now get both EAST/WEST coast feeds of ABC through DirecTV. Hopefully this will clear up some questions about the process

[moedog]

I have Greensboro locals AND both NY & LA distants.

I rule :hurah:
:confused: I'm surprised! Living in "Mayberry," don't you live right under the WXII and WXLV transmitters? I can see you getting CBS and FOX distants, though even that is kind of a stretch since 2 and 8 are powerful stations. But NBC and ABC distants? I guess you do rule!