Superdish for 105 vs dish 300 with a legacy LNB

[walendvay]

Question, will a dish 300 with a legacy LNB, cascaded with a SW21 to a legacy Dish500 work to pick up the 105 satellite? Has anyone tried this? If you've tried this, what city are you located in? I would presume if you are further south in the US, you'd have a stronger signal. I am in Boise near the 45th parallel. (I think I'll need a 30' elevation angle to achieve this)

The reason I ask is I have an old dish 300 and all I need is an SW21 to make this config work (SW21 = $5 on ebay).

From what I read about Superdish, it looks like the darn thing is too heavy to bolt onto the side of my house. I think a second dish would give me a better solution.

Also, Boise local channels are "supposedly" available as of Oct 16, however, no Superdish answers can be found with the CSR at Dish network.

Additionally, my 4900 and 6000 receivers have options in the menu for a 105 satelite. However, from what I've read, they are not DishPro, hence, I'd need adaptors for both and these adaptors are going to consume more electricity and add to my wiring madness behind my TV (both receivers are in the same location and the 4900 pumps TV to the rest of the house. With the UHF remote, this is possible).

Anyway, any answers to this dilema would be appreciated.

Thanks. Bill

[Chris Blount]

Hi Walendvay and welcome to DBSTalk! :welcome_s

The legacy LNB's will not work picking up 105. A 36" wide dish minimum will be needed with a different type of KU Band DishPro LNBF.

[walendvay]

Can you be more specific on the new LNBF? From my understanding, the DishPro LNBF does not have the 13V/18V requirement to change the polarity.

What else does the new DishPro (or SuperDish) LNBF do? Additionally, I've seen statements about an "FSS" LNBF. (I think that's the right acronym). Can you comment on that, is this the issue with picking up 105 with a legacy LNBF)

I think this may be an already discussed subject in this forum, however, I've not been able to piece together the details.

Thanks. Bill

[Darkman]

Chris, i thought 30 inch would do also (as a minimum anyhow)

[Chris Blount]

Can you be more specific on the new LNBF? From my understanding, the DishPro LNBF does not have the 13V/18V requirement to change the polarity.

What else does the new DishPro (or SuperDish) LNBF do? Additionally, I've seen statements about an "FSS" LNBF. (I think that's the right acronym). Can you comment on that, is this the issue with picking up 105 with a legacy LNBF)

I think this may be an already discussed subject in this forum, however, I've not been able to piece together the details.

Thanks. Bill

The FSS LNBF is used to receive medium Power KU FSS Satellites (in this case at the 105 location). The one that will be on the Superdish will most likely be "stacked" just like this one:

http://www.eagleaspen.com/documents/STK-570F.pdf (also pictured below)

BTW: Here is a good place to take a look at some pictures of the Superdish and a few general specs.

http://www.dishretailer.com/ts2003/


Darkman,

You may be correct about the Dish only having to be 30". From what I have been told and from earlier research, 36" would be the best size due to the reduced power levels coming from 105. Of course, that could have changed.

[Sam Spade]

The FSS LNBF is used to receive medium Power KU FSS Satellites (in this case at the 105 location). The one that will be on the Superdish will most likely be "stacked" just like this one

Christopher,

Instead of making up answers and showing bogus information why not just show them a real super dish lnb?

You can see them by clicking this link http://www.satelliteguys.us/forum/viewtopic.php?t=689

[Spade Sam]

Christopher,

Instead of making up answers and showing bogus information why not just show them a real super dish lnb?

You can see them by clicking this link http://www.satelliteguys.us/forum/viewtopic.php?t=689

Quit trolling Scott. Everyone knows that's you.

[Darkman]

Spade Sam - P*ss off, do not start the BS story over again...

hehe - Guest(s)

Maybe time to consider, Registered users ONLY (like on many other boards) :)

[Jerry G]

The FSS LNBF is used to receive medium Power KU FSS Satellites (in this case at the 105 location). The one that will be on the Superdish will most likely be "stacked" just like this one:

http://www.eagleaspen.com/documents/STK-570F.pdf (also pictured below)




I talked with an engineer at Pro Brand (Eagle/Aspen) about the STK-570F, and although it's a stacked LNB, he didn't think it would be compatible with Dish's equipment.

[Chris Blount]

Christopher,

Instead of making up answers and showing bogus information why not just show them a real super dish lnb?

You can see them by clicking this link http://www.satelliteguys.us/forum/viewtopic.php?t=689Excuse me? Who said I was making anything up. This information is directly from reputable sources. I never said that the FSS LNB shown was the actual Superdish LNB. I was just showing an example. Walendvay was looking for specifics, not more pictures.

[Chris Blount]

I talked with an engineer at Pro Brand (Eagle/Aspen) about the STK-570F, and although it's a stacked LNB, he didn't think it would be compatible with Dish's equipment.You are correct. Like I said in my previous post, I never claimed it would be compatible. I was just showing the type of LNB that will be in the Superdish.