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ehren
10-22-03, 06:20 PM
What in the world is this? We now have a better than 1080i HDTV picture? How much more clear do we need the picture to be? I was just looking at a HDTV 34" tv today and it can actually look better than THAT?!?!?!

BTW it was a 34" JVC HDTV set.

Martyva
10-23-03, 03:58 PM
http://www.jvc.com/product.jsp?modelId=MODL027100&page=3

ehren
10-23-03, 06:45 PM
This is crazy, how much more clear do we really need? 1080 blew the socks off my bad eyesight enough!

Martyva
10-24-03, 06:32 AM
It is becoming a numbers game. The Japanese recently tested Ultra High Definition made up of about 32 million picture elements. There first attempt was only 34 seconds, but by stringing several HD recorders together they were able to come up with about 18 minutes. Supposedly so realistic that it is disturbing (8000X4000)

sampatterson
10-24-03, 08:19 AM
The bigger the screen, the higher the resolution needed. That is why HD looks the best on 22" 1920x1080 LCDs (in my opinion), much better than on say a 65" 1920x1080 lcos. They both are outputting the same resolution, but the pixels are bigger on the 65" and it makes the apparent resolution go down. (unless you are watching the 65" for really far away.

Martyva
10-24-03, 08:34 AM
The theaters are using 1280X720 but not MPEG2 compression. Quvis uses something called macroblocking that improves images on larger screens. MPEG2 being a lossy compression limits the size of the image as much as the resolution.

ehren
10-24-03, 03:09 PM
sampatterson- what can you reccomend for size and 1920x1080 resolution for me? I looking in the 34" region but Direct Views are getting a bad rap but I actually like them. I am suprised they are not 1920x1080 cause HD looked pretty dam good on the RCA, Sony and Toshiba models, thanks

lastmanstanding
10-24-03, 07:40 PM
"The bigger the screen, the higher the resolution needed."

Sam,

That is a terrific point, one lost in many discussions of resolution. I've seen some talk of 1080p being bandied about, but 1500i is a new one. And UHD might be just the ticket for really big screens and projectors.

So the 'final' endpoint of resolution comes down to screen size. HD on small sets is a waste, and UHD on wall sized projections may be just the ticket. As long as HD has taken in the US, I am not going to wait for UHD to get off the ground. The bright boys can't even agree on an HD DVD format, and probably won't until 2006.

I did read a review of a ten channel surround sound being played with. In addition to the regular 5.1 compliment of speakers, they added a discrete rear and a couple of vertical channels. So I guess 10.1 or 10.2 will be coming along someday. And the beat goes on. . .


LMS