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ehren
10-29-03, 06:24 PM
This talk about roof installation not being reccomended is starting to make me upset. my installer who put in my Dish 500 pretty much said the only place it could be put was in the front of the house . I have trees blocking just to the right of the dish and they are not an option to remove at all. I do not want the SuperDish on a pole. How can a Dish that is larger and weighs more be a problem with wind??? I would think I am average in I.Q. but this does not make sense. My wife is wondering why I took the 149 deal for the 6000 since getting HD thru locals is gonna need a huge antenna just to pick them up which I am not thrilled about and she's bitching about how only 4 channels are available and how HD is nothing better than regular tv. I am pretty fustrated now. I have the HDTV picked out but she thinks it's to pricey blah blah blah. I want HDTV, I have been critical about it but my eyesight is getting worse. Wow, I think mentioning that will help ease things :rolleyes:

btbrossard
10-29-03, 06:26 PM
How can a Dish that is larger and weighs more be a problem with wind???I think the problem is the larger dish will act like a sail and try to remove part of your roof in a storm :) .

/Benjamin

James Long
10-29-03, 06:30 PM
How can a Dish that is larger and weighs more be a problem with wind??? Bigger parachute. The bigger dish (36" across) catches more wind than your relatively puny Dish500. Catching wind makes an antenna even more "heavy" on the support structure.

JL

shalverson
10-29-03, 06:36 PM
I am a little concerned also. Anybody have any thoughts on mounting? My Dish 500 is mounted on my antenna mast now. The mast is anchored to the facia board, and the dish is currently about 5 ft. above that. It hasn't given me any problems yet but I wonder if they will even install it in the same place. How much wider and heavier is it going to be?

Thanks again!

Joe
10-29-03, 06:45 PM
Bigger parachute. The bigger dish (36" across) catches more wind than your relatively puny Dish500. Catching wind makes an antenna even more "heavy" on the support structure.

JL What happened to the little one they showed on the chrlie chat? (26 inches)

wdowns
10-29-03, 07:33 PM
Spoke with my installer the other day and we watched the installation video and it appears that the recommended mount will be a pole mount followed by side mount with the least preferred being a roof mount. When mounting on the fascia board the center two screws must hit the truss/stud and the 4 others will hit the fascia board. They recommend that a total of 6 bolts but 4 solid ones will work. My plan is a pole mount in a 2'/10 gal bucket concrete base with a brace attached to the fascia board to support the pole.

I was told that if I wanted it roof mounted they would do it but it is not recommend due to sail effect. In FL we have enough issues with winds let alone hurricanes. I would hate to have my roof damage in a wind storm because of dish mount.

valand_krisban
10-29-03, 07:36 PM
I am a little concerned also. Anybody have any thoughts on mounting?

I mount my dishes on the roof, but right at the spot where the trusses are doubled-up (the edge). I added a new full length 2x4 to them to triple it up and match the width of the dish base's bolt pattern. In this fashion, the lag bolts go through the roof and into the frame of the house, not just into the plywood sheathing. Plenty of stability.

I wouldn't suggest mounting on the fascia as it is usually made of weak pine and only 1/2" thick. It's only purpose is to form the soffit and attach lightweight siding to. Nothing structural about it.

I have heard other ideas on this forum where one could bore a hole in the roof, and run a pipe down into the attic where you would u-bolt or screw it to a truss. Poperly sealing around the pipe and arranging the shingles is definately a must. One could use the same premise and mount to the outside of the house into the wall frame 2x4's or 2x6's.

retiredTech
10-29-03, 07:57 PM
If your roof postion has the clear view to get the three satellites you want,

then with the proper renforcement, you can mount virtually anything.

I remember mounting a 8 foot Birdsview solid dish with pole and
actuator on a customer's roof one time (back in the day)

Not to mention countless ChannelMaster, Wineguard huge OTA
antennas systems for people.

So a Super Dish is small by comparrison.

Just plan the mount properly and find the "framework" under your siding or roof to solidly secure it.
If you secure it "solidly" then
the only wind you will have to worry about would be the kind that would damage your house
without a dish.

Matt Stevens
10-30-03, 12:27 PM
I have to moint on my roof. Trees that do not belong to me make it impossible to get a LOS anywhere else. I am so not looking forward to this.

Cyclone
10-30-03, 01:45 PM
I have a townhouse, I have to go on the roof. I'm sure it won't be a problem.

boba
10-30-03, 03:28 PM
Ehren to go back to your original post most Digital Over The Air signals are broadcast as UHF channels so you really don't need such a huge TV antenna to receive them. Probably an 8 bay bowtie or a 5Ft. yagi will get your UHF signals if you can get them at all.

ehren
10-30-03, 03:35 PM
thanks, the DT stations for my area I believe start at 15:1 and higher. my ABC is 26 I believe and CBS 3 is 50:1 and UPN 14 which is owned by CBS 3 is I believe 50:2 or 51:1. I dunno I saw the #'s a while back when watching a 38" RCA with built in Directv at a local electronics store.