Any P153 bugs?

[John Corn]

Anybody having any problems, I've read about some timer issues since the upgrade. I'm not so sure it's a bug yet.
Guess we will know as we get more upgrades.

Remember to reset the 501 after the upgrade, always seemed to help me.

There is something going on with a timer kicking off when you are either delayed or watching a PVR event. It happend to me and I thought it was something my kids did, b ut reading more it sounds like a bug. Other than that, 153 is working 100% better than 150 did. I was getting prices together on UltimateTV just before the upgrade. I will be holding off for now, but if the upgrade for this (or future upgrade for the DP) make things worse, I'm out of here.

My Caller ID doesn't seem to work. I have an output via RCA cables, and I have an output via coax. Neither screen displays the call data. No recordings in progress or anything.

Anybody else having this problem?

[John Corn]

Is your caller ID activated on your phone?
Unplug the phone line from behind the IRD and make sure it works.

Sure am subscribed. Phone line works. Phone jack works. Phone wire is good. Diag works fine. When resetting receiver, it clicks on my phone line. Only thing strange is that I have a DSL line filter on it. Doesn't affect any of my other phones with ID, so this should be no different. Tried it without filter too, just to see if there was a difference. There was not.

Oh, dish support says it won't show when watching PVR recordings. I pointed out to them that it was a live program I was watching with no delay.

It just plain doesn't work. I'm sure it will eventually work, but for now... it doesn't.

Thanks for your quick reply!
Brad

[John Corn]

Brad, It's so nice to see a name. :) You should register.
It's really easy, you don't have to supply any personal info. :)
Ok, I'm done bugging ya about that. :lol:
I'm sure you did the phone check in the 501 menu?
Have you ever ordered a PPV to know if the modem works?

[bradkimberly]

There... registered... quick and painless...

Actually, spent about 45 mins on phone with Dishnet... where at the end of the conversation they tell me that CID may not work until 24 hours after the software download... which I received about 12 hours ago.

You would think they would mention that before I spent 45 mins on the phone with them. :-)

Anyway... patience is golden in this case. Not like I didn't have it before... life goes on.

Brad

[John Corn]

lol..........:lol:

You would think they would mention that before I spent 45 mins on the phone with them. :-)

[Mark Lamutt]

Welcome Brad - thanks for registering. It's easier to talk to a person than to an "unregistered"...who knows what that is? :)

[llunken777]

If dish says that the caller id won't work during PVR functions then it is pretty much useless to me and others who never watch LIVE tv. What a great disipointment in the SW developement team. What's the point off having a caller id on a PVR if it doesn't work. They advertise ZAP commericials never watch another comericial. The caller ID should work during any PVR function.:mad:

[Neil Derryberry]

Brad.. it seems that CallerId is disabled by default. I enabled mine, and it works just like my 501 used to.

[bradkimberly]

Well, I did enable it via Menu, 6, 1, 8. I did a phone connection test which turned out ok. I tested the jack. I tested the phone cord. I changed the phone cord. I unhooked every other phone in the house. I did a hard reset of the machine. I left it unplugged for half an hour. I talked nicely to it. I did everything but slap it on the rear and call it "sweetheart." It just doesn't work.

I would greatly appreciate ANY thoughts anybody might have. The Dish people submitted an engineering report (to which I will never be called back about). However, from what it sounds like, I am absolutely the only person in the world who can't seem to get it to work. Enable ID, get call during live program, see number, ignore call.

That's the way it's supposed to work, right?

Brad

[John Corn]

Brad, did you run phone test with the 501?
Its Menu, 6, 3.......Diagnostics. this checks your phone connection.

Have you ordered a PPV lately?
I'm trying to determine if your modem in the 501 is bad.

My 501's behavior matches Brad's. I.E. Caller ID doesn't work. I've done all the same checks. I got 3 calls during a live show and have a caller id phone off the same jack as the 501.

[bradkimberly]

Yes, I did the phone connection test. I've also tried it while ON the phone just hear the click on the phone line during the test.

I'm glad to hear that somebody else is having the same problem.

Brad

[llunken777]

One of the things required for your Caller ID to function is to make sure that coaxz line in from the dish is properly grounded, according to Dish Tech Support.

[Neil Derryberry]

That's not it... My sw64 isn't grounded, and it works fine for me. With a new baby in the house, gounding my gear just got shoved further down the list of things to do.

[bradkimberly]

Maybe if we put our heads together, we can figure out what the problem is. Here is my config... maybe other people who the same problem can put down their configs too. Perhaps there is a commonality.

DP501
Dish 500, SW21, one receiver.
Software version- P153DCED-N
Boot Strap- 16BBDCED
One Z-blocker on the phone line for my DSL.

Oh, forgot to mention... I use RCA cables to my TV and a coax to a VCR for tape copies.

*I've removed the Z-Blocker and it still doesn't work.

Now, those of you who are having the same problem I am, does any of this sound familiar to you? Do you have a SW21? Do you have a Z-Blocker?

Are there any of you out there who have the exact same config, yet no problem?

Brad

[bradkimberly]

So... here's the answer...

Even if you THINK it's properly grounded, it's entirely possible the landscapers at your apartment cut your grounding wire.

I retraced everything in the installation of my dish last year, and turns out that my apartment's landscapers took a weedeater to the stupid grounding wire.

As soon as I put what was left of the wire back in the ground, the caller ID started working. When I took it out of the ground, it stopped working again. Put it back, and it began to work.

Can you believe that?!

Oh, and FYI, it works during playback, recording, playing back WHILE recording, and during live programs. I'm guessing that neilster's sw64 is in fact grounded somehow.

Anyway, thanks everybody for all of your input.

Brad

[John Corn]

Well thats good to here Brad, and we all learned something as well. :)
llunken and Dish Tech Support had it right. :)
I was like neilster, doubting that grounding was it. :shrug:

[n0qcu]

If it needs grounding to work then why didn't they use a three pronged power cord????

[bradkimberly]

Beats me.... I would never build a piece of electronics without three prongs. Then again, I'm not in the business of making televisions... I'm in the business of putting the images on the televisions.

Brad

Originally posted by Unregistered
...Oh, dish support says it won't show when watching PVR recordings...

Really??? If so, that sucks. That's the only kind of program I watch. Do people with PVRs really watch live TV? If so, why?

Oh yea, John, this is my first visit and I'll register if I like it (I like it so far).

[bradkimberly]

Un-Reggie,

I was the one having all the trouble, and I confirmed after I got it to work that the ID will display while recording or playing back.

It also works just like pulling up INFO during a recording and does not record to disk either. It's all separate.

Brad

[kyoo]

My first post on dbstalk.. nice to hear from more active people out there.

I love the new features of P153. However, I must complain about one thing.

When the Caller ID display pops up, you can't hit the pause button until you hit SELECT to clear it off the screen. I'd love to pause the program quickly so I can get to the phone w/o the TV blaring at me. I'd really like the name to stay on the screen for a while after I pause it.

-Kyoo

Just got 153 this morning..now when I go to timers and highlight a program timer and hit INFO all it does is give me the info for managing timers.....no program info. IIRC 150 would give me the program info or am I wrong?

[John Corn]

Welcome kyoo, post away. :)

[bradkimberly]

Originally posted by Unregistered
Just got 153 this morning..now when I go to timers and highlight a program timer and hit INFO all it does is give me the info for managing timers.....no program info. IIRC 150 would give me the program info or am I wrong?

Not on timers... however, PVR recordings menu will show you the info when hitting the info button. And in 153 it won't crash after hitting INFO on the PVR screen and few times.

Brad

[John Corn]

If it needs grounding to work then why didn't they use a three pronged power cord????
lol.....Good point. :confused:

[rabenklau]

Last week I was recording a show and watching a previously recorded movie at the same time. Beacuse of commercials I was FF the recorded show and when I went to normal play again the sound was out of sync with the picture for a few seconds.:mad:
I don't think is to severe as the HD was obviously busy recording, playing FF and so.

[EvanS]

Originally posted by bradkimberly
Un-Reggie,

I was the one having all the trouble, and I confirmed after I got it to work that the ID will display while recording or playing back.

It also works just like pulling up INFO during a recording and does not record to disk either. It's all separate.

Brad I was the one having all the trouble, and I confirmed after I got it to work that the ID will display while recording or playing back.

I agree with this - yet SO FAR the CID info has not shown on screen when I am watching a PVR AND recording a live event...
...anyone else notice this?

[llunken777]

My CID shows anytime no matter what menu or screen I have up. The CID doesn't record to the hard drive but it will record to a VCR.

[geneb11]

Hey guy's how ya doing?
When I turned on my 501 last night all I got was a black screen. The guide would show and the view would also. I tried changing the channels, but they were all black. The pvr worked ok. So I turned it off and then held down the power button for 5 seconds. I turned it back on and it said aquiring signal and then came on and was back to normal . This is the 1st problem I've had since I bought it 3 months ago. What's causing this. Is it p153?:shrug: (BTW) My caller ID work's. I just wish it had memory storage and to be able to pause the tv when a call comes in. and as for the search. I would like to be able to put in more characters instead of half titles.

[Mark Lamutt]

If you ever see the black screen, resetting normally works to get things back to normal, just like you did. Not sure what you mean about pausing the tv when you get a call - are you talking about automatically pausing? Because, you can of course hit the pause button to pause your tv while you answer the phone. And I agree about the search - it'd be nice to have more than 15, but otoh, 15's a lot better than 5.

[EvanS]

[i]Not sure what you mean about pausing the tv when you get a call - are you talking about automatically pausing? Because, you can of course hit the pause button to pause your tv while you answer the phone.[/B]

I think Gene means that it would be nice if you could DIRECTLY pause when a call comes in...instead of having to "OK" the CID screen first.
I am getting used to it now, but it's not natural :cool:

[llunken777]

I agree, it is very annoying. When the phone rings the first thing you naturally want to do is to hit the pause button. But the OK to clear the Caller ID info has to be selected away first.

[geneb11]

yes Evan That's what I meant. You have to press ok. Then pause.

There is a nasty little bug with the timer

Set a PVR event at 00:30 - 01:30 on Sat
Set another PVR event at 23:30 - 01:00 on Sat - Sun

It considers these two in conflict!

Dave

[DarrellP]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but on the 6000 when CID first came out on it, it would not work in HD mode. How good is that? Maybe it's been fixed since then, but I dropped it after about a month because it was useless.

As far as bugs go, I never had a problem with timers or Mr Blinky until 153. Since then, timers have not fired, dissappeared, not stopped, caused conflicts when there were none (not midnight boundary crossing either) and hitting Cancel on Mr Blinky has made my machine lock up with a black screen requiring a reset.

I RMA'd my machine last week and the new one is even worse. The timers are almost useless (undependable) and the hard drive registers 60db while seeking with my sound meter on top of the 501.

Needless to say I have another 501 on the way and this time I am going to call Dish with every single little problem that pops up so I can have a very thorough record of it's problems.

[badboy]

:( I cant get my locals channels. They are coming in fine on the 3000 but not the dishplayer. When I do a multi-dish switch test. It shows no signal on 2b. I am using 64 switch. I have tried everything I can think of. Rechecking all the connections which I are fine.Switch the connections from the dishplayer to the 3000. Channels still come in on the 3000 and not dishplayer. Anyone have a clue? Only started after the update.

[RodP]

Originally posted by badboy
:Switch the connections from the dishplayer to the 3000.

If you are switching the receiver connections at SW64 switch you are still using the same cables from the receivers to the switch.

Another thing to try/playwith is only have one receiver hooked up at a time to the SW64 switch.

Also take a note of which receiver/cable is in-line the power inserter.

Later Rod

BTW, if this is a DishPlayer and not a 501, maybe an admin will move this to the correct area.

[MrPete]

Originally posted by DarrellP

As far as bugs go, I never had a problem with timers or Mr Blinky until 153. Since then, timers have not fired, dissappeared, not stopped, caused conflicts when there were none (not midnight boundary crossing either) and hitting Cancel on Mr Blinky has made my machine lock up with a black screen requiring a reset.


I've had P153 for quite a while with no problems until sometime last week. Then, I started having missed timers, back to back timers and standalone timers. When a back to back is missed, checking the guide shows a clock icon. Clicking on the REC button brings up a conflict screen with the same program. I just delete the first program and then recording resumes. A front panel reset doesn't seem to help.

I'll try deleting all my timers and do another reset to see if it helps. Grrrr:rant: :soapbox:

[brother john]

MrPete...

I'm having the same trouble with timers as you. I erased all mine, reset the unit, and started over from scratch setting up my timers this morning :(

brother john

[Scott Greczkowski]

I figured I would update the name of this thread as 154 has been spooling for a few days now.

Anyone have an 154 issues?

[DarrellP]

Scott, this probably should have been a new thread as the bugs with 153 may not be the same as 154.

[Mark Lamutt]

Darrell, I agree. This thread has been renamed to P153 bugs, and has been unstuck. New P154 thread coming now.