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clcoyle
07-26-04, 04:06 PM
I was just curious to find out if I put in a zip code for an East coast address will I be able to pick up East coast feeds seeing that I live on the West Coast?
I hate having the delays in the programs.
In other words, how does the satelite reciever know where I live and can I trick-it into thinking I live somewhere other than I really do?
Thanks, Chris
jdspencer
07-26-04, 04:22 PM
The only way you are going to get opposite coast feeds is if you qualify for waivers so you can receive the distant networks. Most locals are on the spot beams, so if you aren't under that beam you won't get alternate programming. And, no spot beam, by definition, will reach from coast to coast.
That's what a TiVo is for. :) Record and watch at your own pleasure.
clcoyle
07-26-04, 05:57 PM
Thanks for the info
cktb2793
07-28-04, 08:32 AM
you could "move" your service address to somewhere that is eligible. For instance living anywhere in Key West, Florida would qualify you for the E/W Feeds.
Just be sure to tell them you only want to change your service address and want to leave your billing address at your current address as you own both places and your credit cards go to your current address. Also, don't change your phone number, but they won't ask about that anyway.
After changing, wait about an hour and call 1-800-531-5000 ext 721 and tell them you'd like to get the "DNS Service" since you can't get and over the air signal where you "live". They will check you address to verify it's eligible and then ask if you want E, W, or both, and which networks or all. Within minutes, your E/W feeds will be working.
to find a Key West address go to www.anywho.com use a last name like smith or jones in key west, Fl. Pick an address and make sure you write it down where you wont use it so you can remember where you "live" later on down the line.
Here's a link to check the address' eligibility, but all in Key West are eligible.
http://directvdnseligibility.decisionmark.com/app/AddressEntry.asp
About an 1/2 hour after signing up in Key West, go online to your directv account and change the billing address there. saves talking to a CSR again and you get no questions.
I have an opposite situation.
I am a new DirecTV subscriber, and noticed that (unlike via cable) many channels, but not all, are receiving the East Coast feed. So I cannot watch shows meant for primetime at that time, but 3 hours earlier.
Does anyone know how to change this? DirecTV tells me that this is how it is, and I should just get used to it
Yes all the cable networks are the east coast feeds, they don't carry both. So If you want to watch something 3 hours later, you'll need to Tivo it
Thanks BFG.
Yes, Tivo may work, but it forces me to plan ahead, otherwise "miss" something. This works fine for series, or something predictable, but not so good for something that I just find out about at work, for example; yet by the time I get home, it's already "been shown" on direcTV, while anyone watching cable can still see it.
You would think they would have a West Coast feed for this purpose (and compete with cable on an equal footing)
You could also live your life 3 hours ahead of everyone and just ignore what everyone else is doing, or spoil all the good plot lines for the cable folks ;)
Does DishNetwork have the same problem - only East Coast feed? Or do they offer a West Coast one as well?
scooper
08-01-04, 07:51 PM
E* is strictly East Coast feed as well, except for a few kids channels (Disney, Nick).
Steve Mehs
08-01-04, 08:07 PM
Also for what its worth and as far as I know, both providers still offer the west coast feed of SoapNet instead of the east feed.
It just so happens my family owns a house in an area that can receive eligible distant nets. I thought I would try and call Direct about getting the distants if I move my equipment down there. After telling them I would be willing to move the other house to my primary billing address they conceded it would work. My question now is do I have to be physically in the house with the equipment installed to make the changeover and get the distant nets? Or can I do this from my current home and get the distant nets here before moving anything to the other house? They seemed to want to push the Dish Movers on me to verify the installation there.
Mike D.
cktb2793
08-03-04, 09:21 AM
It just so happens my family owns a house in an area that can receive eligible distant nets. I thought I would try and call Direct about getting the distants if I move my equipment down there. After telling them I would be willing to move the other house to my primary billing address they conceded it would work. My question now is do I have to be physically in the house with the equipment installed to make the changeover and get the distant nets? Or can I do this from my current home and get the distant nets here before moving anything to the other house? They seemed to want to push the Dish Movers on me to verify the installation there.
Mike D.
When I "moved" to my "other house" in Key West, I just told them that the house was already set up for DirectTV when I bought it and I didn't need the mover's program.
You need to have the house in the DNS area as your service address.... you can leave where you are as your billing address.
Best way to do it is to call and set up the "move" to the new SERVICE address, tell them you are already at the new address and you need to keep BILLING address st your old service address because that's where all your credit cards are billed to and NOT mention anything about the Distant Networks.
Wait about 30 minutes or so then call BACK and tell them that you just founf out the area you have service at is eligible for the Distant network service and would like to add it.
You do NOT need to take the equipment anywhere, the Distant Nets will just start working right where you are.
Hello;
I have an interesting situation. I'm on the West coast. I called DirecTV because I "moved" to the East coast. They asked me if I wanted to get my "local" channels set up, and I thought why not for just a couple of bucks extra a month. Now, the issue is I'm only receiving one "local" channel on 918 but not the others which are on 979-991. The ones I'm not receiving are apparently on transponder 26 which shows as a 0 on my antenna strenth. I've called DirecTV but they are of course clueless why I'm not getting my "local" channels and want to send someone to my "address" for a service call. Is there a work-around for this or am I just not able to receive those channels? I assumed since I'm getting one "local" channel I should be able to get them all.
Thanks,
Mike
Steve Mehs
11-28-04, 01:15 PM
Welcome to DBSTalk, Mike, what market did you ‘move’ to?
DBS may be national, but most locals are not. Most local channels are located on spot beam satellites rather then CONUS (Continental US) locations. This allows certain transponders to be used over and over again wasting no additional bandwidth. Transponder 26 on 101 in on DirecTV4S, DirecTVs spot beam bird. Having 0 signal on this transponder is normal depending on where you live. In short, there is no way to get locals. If you picked a NYC address you could have received the big 4 as their on a national beam since they’re offered as distant nets (along with the LA big 4). It all has to do with geographic location.
Hi Steve and thanks for the welcome. I "moved" to the Miami market. I figured this was far enough to be able to receive Chargers games on Sunday Ticket (a little late this season so maybe next year depending on their "blackout" rules). After reading some more messages on here, the one "local" channel I'm receiving is Miami's WB which if I'm not mistaken is the WB channel of choice anyone on the East coast will receive if they don't have a local WB channel in their market. So, I guess there's at least one local station out there that gets beamed nationwide in addition to the NY & LA channels.... It certainly would be nice to have all the "locals", Miami's market has 13 locals on DirecTV although there's quite a few in Spanish.
I got a dumb question.... You guys are saying I could "move" my satellite service to an area that qualifies for the distant networks..... No one ever checks this?
matthpd195
11-28-04, 06:41 PM
Nope, i have been "moved" to a different location for over a year with no problems.
teknophyle
11-29-04, 08:42 PM
Nope, i have been "moved" to a different location for over a year with no problems.
I live in the Miami/Ft Lauderdale area and receive the locals here in South Florida. So if I "move" to Key West and get my New York/La Distants would I be able to keep the Miami locals?
I live in the Miami/Ft Lauderdale area and receive the locals here in South Florida. So if I "move" to Key West and get my New York/La Distants would I be able to keep the Miami locals?
I doubt that. Key West qualifies to receive the NY/LA channels because it's located in a market where DirecTV does not have the locals available - hence no local Miami stations. Once you report your "move" to DirecTV they will more than likely replace your Miami locals with the NY/LA channels.
One other question I do have to the group regarding the local channels. I'm the one in San Diego trying to recieve Miami locals. Is special equipment required to receive the locals? Oval dish perhaps? I've got OLD equipment, 2 Sony SAT B-2's and a Dual-LNB round dish.
Thanks,
Mike
I live in the Miami/Ft Lauderdale area and receive the locals here in South Florida. So if I "move" to Key West and get my New York/La Distants would I be able to keep the Miami locals?
http://directvdnseligibility.decisionmark.com/app/AddressEntry.asp
Maybe. Enter a key west address into this link and see if you are eligible for miami locals from there. I have been getting distants and chicago locals for over a year.
http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/LocalChannelsAction.do
matthpd195
11-30-04, 10:46 AM
If you look HERE (http://ekb.dbstalk.com/TVMarkets/) under Miami DMA you will see that the Keys are included.
Also typing in the zip for Key West will give you the Miami locals with DirecTv. Even though it is in the Miami DMA it is a "white" area so you would qualify for Distants.
If you look HERE (http://ekb.dbstalk.com/TVMarkets/) under Miami DMA you will see that the Keys are included.
Also typing in the zip for Key West will give you the Miami locals with DirecTv. Even though it is in the Miami DMA it is a "white" area so you would qualify for Distants.
I don't get how certain areas qualify for both locals plus distants. It doesn't seem fair to those who only qualify for just locals.......if you can get your locals in your DMA now, why should they care if you want to pay for distants?
matthpd195
11-30-04, 11:13 AM
Key West is some 150 miles from Miami so anyone there would have very little chance of picking up local Miami channels with an antenna, hence the "white" area status. Distant locals are decided totally separate from regular local channels.
Say you lived in Gary, IN about 20 miles from Chicago. You would get the Chicago locals only, no distants, because you are close enough to get them with an antenna so you wouldn't then qualify for distant nets.
Even though Key West qualifies for locals & distant nets you can subscribe to either/or both. Which makes it an ideal place for people to "move" to just to get the distant networks.
Even though Key West qualifies for locals & distant nets you can subscribe to either/or both. Which makes it an ideal place for people to "move" to just to get the distant networks.
I stand corrected. Guess it's time for another "move". :D
teknophyle
11-30-04, 03:28 PM
Here is a post that I copied from Satelliteguys.us Note the question that I asked and the answer I received. This is from a guy whom works closely with the government.
Quote:
Originally Posted by teknophyle
If someone lives in Key West, Florida and receives both the Miami locals and Distants. How will the new law affect them? Will they be able to keep both or choose? If they must choose then why? Why would Key West be affected?
As I understand it, you will have to choose, because the law says so. As far as the NAB is concerned, being able to get both locals and distants was a flaw in the prior law (SHVIA) that needed to be corrected; if you can get Miami, their reasoning is you do NOT need distants. The only reason they even offered a choice is so that most folks who are used to getting distants don't have to switch YET.
And no, Key West isn't being singled out; anyone in the country who formerly got both locals and distants will have to choose. The same will happen in every market once locals are made available: Those who have distants can keep them if they want to, but they MUST drop them if they want locals.
Did DirecTV move or change the channel for the WB? I guess it depends on your local market, but I was receiving Miami's WB (Ch. 39) on DirecTV channel 918 but today it's gone... ? Wonder if they found out I didn't actually "move"? lol
teknophyle
12-03-04, 09:26 PM
Did DirecTV move or change the channel for the WB? I guess it depends on your local market, but I was receiving Miami's WB (Ch. 39) on DirecTV channel 918 but today it's gone... ? Wonder if they found out I didn't actually "move"? lol
In the Miami Market on DirecTv WBZL Ch 39 is on Channel 39 on your lineup! The other Miami locals are on Ch's 2,4,6,7,10,17,33,39
In the Miami Market on DirecTv WBZL Ch 39 is on Channel 39 on your lineup! The other Miami locals are on Ch's 2,4,6,7,10,17,33,39
Yeah, I have an old receiver so the locals are in the 900 range... Kind of odd that I had WBZL on 918 for a couple of days and then it just suddenly disappeared. Oh well. I'm going to try and upgrade receivers & dish to see if there's any difference.
Thanks,
Mike
Yeah, I have an old receiver so the locals are in the 900 range... Kind of odd that I had WBZL on 918 for a couple of days and then it just suddenly disappeared. Oh well. I'm going to try and upgrade receivers & dish to see if there's any difference.
Thanks,
Mike
Well, today WBZL is back on 918 again... No clue. :confused:
If you look HERE (http://ekb.dbstalk.com/TVMarkets/) under Miami DMA you will see that the Keys are included.
Also typing in the zip for Key West will give you the Miami locals with DirecTv. Even though it is in the Miami DMA it is a "white" area so you would qualify for Distants.Just "moved" to Key West and the CSR I spoke with told me DNS service is "unavailable in my area". Anyone know if they've changed the guidelines on this?
jdspencer
02-19-05, 09:23 PM
The newly signed SHVERA rules have changed the guidelines for getting DNS.
See the forum on this subject here.
http://www.dbstalk.com/forumdisplay.php?f=79
The newly signed SHVERA rules have changed the guidelines for getting DNS.
See the forum on this subject here.
http://www.dbstalk.com/forumdisplay.php?f=79Thanks for the reply. Guess I shouldn't have waited so long to "move". Oh well...
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