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Randy_B
08-06-04, 09:05 AM
On Tues, after watching Last Comic Standing, I went into the guide to set a one time event for the Thurs show announcing the 3 finalists. At that time, the EPG showed it was only a 30 minute show. I selected the show and made it one time event. I didn't think anything about it until I was reading the paper late Thurs night and looked at the TV grid and saw that the show was 1 hr. CRAP! I figured I might as well see if it was going to repeat on Comedy Central this weekend and if not then at least I could watch the 30 minutes I had set it up for. When I went to the DVR list it showed 61 minutes!!! Sure enough, the entire hr program was recorded. I have no idea how. Since I did not actually look at the underlying info in the EPG on Tues night, I suppose it could have had info for the 1 hr, but then I am not sure why the block on the EPG would have been a small (30 min) block?

Jacob S
08-06-04, 10:12 AM
Maybe the EPG data was wrong thinking that the show was only 30 minutes long instead of 60 minutes when setting it up as an event. When a manual timer is being setup it is done by the user setting the time that it comes on and the time that it goes off along with the date and channel number.

finniganps
08-06-04, 10:30 AM
Count your lucky stars that the ENTIRE program was recorded! BTW, Last Comic Standing is always 1 hour.

garypen
08-06-04, 12:24 PM
Maybe you mis-read the guide, originally? The 510 uses the guide start/end time to set a timer-based recording. It is not program-based.

finniganps
08-06-04, 02:48 PM
Maybe you mis-read the guide, originally? The 510 uses the guide start/end time to set a timer-based recording. It is not program-based.

You could be right, but I could SWEAR that the same thing happened to me once on the 721......it's never happened again, so I'm not sure though.

SimpleSimon
08-06-04, 04:25 PM
I think it's much more likely that the user didn't see that the show was in fact 1 hour in the EPG. That would explain the whole thing, now wouldn't it. :)

finniganps
08-06-04, 05:32 PM
I think it's much more likely that the user didn't see that the show was in fact 1 hour in the EPG. That would explain the whole thing, now wouldn't it. :)

That's what I thought, but I could swear that when it happened to me that I had looked forward in the EPG to the next hour before setting it up....who knows, you're probably right. At least the whole show was taped...that's the good thing.

The PVR's are much better than VCR's which is what I was using. I can't tell you how many times my wife and I would be watching something and I either recorded over part of the end or didn't have the 2nd part because I accidentally taped over it with another show....it hasn't happened since with the PVR. My wife is happier too. :lol:

pweezil
08-06-04, 05:43 PM
I had almost the same thing happen on my 921. Only it didn't record the second half of the show. I KNOW it only showed a half hour in the EPG. As a matter of fact the EPG shows it on for only a half hour on Comedy Central tomorrow night at 7:30, which I think is the repeat of Thursday's show. Titantv also shows it as a half hour tomorrow night. I'm guessing NBC made a mistake when it provided the program info. :mad:

SimpleSimon
08-06-04, 06:46 PM
I'm looking at my 921's EPG for CMDY tomorrow and I've got 90 minutes of LCS - 60+30 - Vote show & Results show @ 18:30 & 19:30 EDT. The preceding show is 30 minutes of MAD TV.

Comedycentral.com is showing 60+60 starting @ 18:00, and there's no MAD TV.

Randy_B
08-06-04, 09:39 PM
I do not know what the info behind the EPG was, but I am SURE that the visual block was a 30 min rectangle only. It was bracketed by a sitcom at 7:30 and 8:30.

I agree that I must have mised something, because I know the 510 couldn't actually have adjusted itsself. I just am not sure what I missed. Can the guide be wrong visually and correct in the underlying data? Do they come from different cells?

SimpleSimon
08-06-04, 09:45 PM
Sorry, guy - no sitcoms before or after.

MAD TV before - a marathon of them.

Following is Blue Collar Comedy - Larry followed by Ron - I know because I set timers for them several days ago. :)

Randy_B
08-07-04, 04:28 PM
Mad TV is a prime time NBC show?

SimpleSimon
08-07-04, 05:16 PM
Hmm. Maybe I'm confused. Maybe someone else is.

I thought we were talking about the reruns of the last 2 LCS shows - which are shown on CMDY.

pweezil
08-07-04, 05:44 PM
Hmm. Maybe I'm confused. Maybe someone else is.

Simon,
Maybe I confused you. I mentioned that LCS on Thursday was alloted 30 minutes in the EPG on NBC and ALSO the rerun of that same episode on Comedy Central was allotted 30 minutes, too. My point being that two networks showed incorrect info. Also, TitanTv.com showed 30 for the rerun. So, if I confused you, (actually, I thought it would take a whole lot more than this :D ) I'm sorry.

SimpleSimon
08-07-04, 06:11 PM
Ah! - No, not confused, I was just working half the problem. :D :lol:

TomCat
08-07-04, 08:43 PM
Since the EPG updates at least twice a day, its easy to imagine a scenario where the show was programmed to record when the EPG erroneously displayed it as listed at 30 minutes (which may not have been the same information the PVR actually uses) and then after an update correcting this, listed it as 60 in time for the recording to happen properly.

Although not Tivo-smart about name-based info, it still gets its marching orders from the EPG, and changes in that can mean changes in its behavior. My guess would be that the serendipity of the sequence of events surrounding those 11th-hour EPG changes was more at work than any inherent PVR savvy. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

I am not a LCS fan, but I am a "Scrubs" fan, and I had set my 721 to record it...the one ep I had missed last season (the original EPG listing that night before the last-minute change by the brain trust at NBC). Of course when I got home, all I found waiting for me was a 30 minute recording of the last half of LCS. At least it got the name right in the PVR list. That's something, I guess.