AMC 15 Launch...

[Darkman]

Has the launch date for it been moved to Sept 14th?

According to Lyngsat's launches page:
http://www.lyngsat.com/launches/2004.html

040914 (Launch date)
AMC 15 Proton 105.0°W 12 Ka tp and 24 Ku tps
footprint map
will be tested at 136 West
M Four
040811 (Lyngsat entry was made on this date)


hmmmmm.. i thought it was to be Launched in August 2004.. - i guess they moved the date..

[James Long]

Looks like the launch company just completed launch of "Amazonas" for Hispasat and Hispamar (Aug 5th) and will be launching a national security payload on August 27th. Coverage of AMC-15's planned launch isn't as clear - but it makes sense that there would be some lag between launches. The national security payload is also reported as changed (although that one is being launched from Florida).

http://www.ilslaunch.com/

JL

[James Long]

In RTF form from July 20th, 2004 ...
http://en.rian.ru/rian/rtf.cfm?prd_id=160&msg_id=4613852
Scheduled for September are two launches, one from Baikonur and the other from Plesetsk. The launch of the Proton-M booster mounting the AMC-15 telecommunications satellite from Baikonur is scheduled for September 15, while the exact launch date of the Defense Ministry's Kosmos rocket has not been set, however the booster is to be launched from Plesetsk in September.

September 15th in Russia would be September 14th in the US, for most of the day. :D

JL

[Darkman]

Yup.. (lol was just going to say same thing (that 15th there is 14th here :)).. but then saw you added it too :)

[rocatman]

I had read in another thread awhile back that Dish will be able to put 16 channels on each of the 24 transponders on AMC-15. I believe the 16 channel capability had something to do with the larger separation between the frequency assignments for each transponder. Does anyone else no anything about this? If this is not the case then Dish will not be able to add too many more channels to the 105 slot.

[James Long]

I had read in another thread awhile back that Dish will be able to put 16 channels on each of the 24 transponders on AMC-15. I believe the 16 channel capability had something to do with the larger separation between the frequency assignments for each transponder. Does anyone else no anything about this? If this is not the case then Dish will not be able to add too many more channels to the 105 slot.
The new 105 should have enough power to allow E* to back off the error correction and easily put more than 12 SDs per TP. FSS satellites like 105 will always have less power than DBS satellites, but it should be ok to do 16.

JL

[Mike123abc]

I had read in another thread awhile back that Dish will be able to put 16 channels on each of the 24 transponders on AMC-15. I believe the 16 channel capability had something to do with the larger separation between the frequency assignments for each transponder. Does anyone else no anything about this? If this is not the case then Dish will not be able to add too many more channels to the 105 slot.

AMC-15 will have half the power of a DBS satellite (about 120 vs 240). But, since everyone has to have a larger dish to receive it, it balances out. They have the same 500MHZ bandwidth. KU-DBS uses 32 TPs over that range, KU-FSS uses 24 (typically, but 121 uses 32). 32x12= 384 channels, 384/24 = 16/transponder.

[mwgiii]

This is a great site to follow the launch.

On the day of launch, they have a minute by minute update of what is going on.

http://www.spaceflightnow.com/tracking/index.html

[Darkman]

Thanks for the link mwgiii - Great link!

from there:
"Sept. 14 Proton • AMC 15
Launch time: TBD
Launch site: Baikonur Cosmodrome, Kazakhstan

An ILS Proton rocket with a Breeze M upper stage will launch the AMC 15 telecommunications spacecraft for operator SES AMERICOM. The Lockheed Martin-built satellite will provide video, Internet and broadband services across the U.S. including Alaska and Hawaii. Delayed from late-Aug."

[Darkman]

Also from there.. (even though it's an older News Release - to refresh memory - so to speak :))))))
Here:
http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n0309/08amc15/

Proton to launch AMC-15 communications satellite
INTERNATIONAL LAUNCH SERVICES NEWS RELEASE
Posted: September 8, 2003

International Launch Services (ILS) and SES AMERICOM have set the launch of the AMC-15 satellite for the second half of 2004 on a Proton launch vehicle. The companies made the announcement today during the Euroconsult World Satellite Business Week conference.

SES AMERICOM ordered an unspecified Proton launch from ILS earlier this year, and recently assigned it to a Proton/Breeze M launch for the AMC-15 satellite. The spacecraft is an A2100 model built by Lockheed Martin Commercial Space Systems (LMCSS), with a Ku/Ka-band payload for distribution of video, Internet and broadband services across the U.S. including Alaska and Hawaii. The target launch date is August 2004.

ILS is a joint venture of Lockheed Martin Corp. (NYSE:LMT) in the United States, which builds the Atlas rocket; and Khrunichev State Research and Production Space Center of Russia, which builds the Proton vehicle.

"It's a pleasure to confirm this Proton mission for SES AMERICOM," said ILS President Mark Albrecht. "Although the launch is only a year away, this again demonstrates the flexibility in our manifest to accommodate satellite operators' launch schedules."

ILS provides launch services on both the Atlas and the Proton vehicles, from launch sites at Cape Canaveral, Fla., in the United States and the Baikonur Cosmodrome in Kazakhstan, respectively. With two independent yet complementary, highly reliable launch systems that provide mutual backup, a sustained launch tempo and a single, integrated management and support structure, ILS offers true schedule assurance.

"The AMC-9 satellite was the payload for the landmark 300th flight of Proton in June," Albrecht said, "and we have the AMC-12 mission set for Proton in the first half of '04. So the AMC-15 launch will reunite a well-experienced team next summer in Baikonur."

The AMC-15 launch will follow closely two other ILS Atlas IIAS missions (AMC-10 and AMC-11) for SES AMERICOM planned for the first quarter of 2004. ILS has launched five satellites for the AMERICOM fleet, among a total of 14 launches provided by ILS for the SES GLOBAL family of satellite companies.

Dean Olmstead, president and CEO of SES AMERICOM, said, "With the launch of AMC-15 we will reach a key milestone in the development of the AMERICOM2Home(TM) neighborhood at 105 degrees West and the next generation of broadband services. AMC-15 carries our first Ka-band payload of 12 125-MHz beams plus a standard 24 36-MHz transponder Ku-band FSS payload - we trust ILS to get the satellite into orbit on time."

ILS was formed in 1995 to provide launch services to customers worldwide, including technical, management and marketing expertise. It offers the broadest range of launch services in the world along with the highest reliability in the industry.

[mwgiii]

On launch day go there and click Mission Report at the top. It will give you details on the launch.

Here is an example of the Amazonas satellite that launched on August 5th. Usually an interesting read. They also have video for subscribers.

http://www.spaceflightnow.com/proton/amazonas/status.html

[ppconejo]

some one have information about the transponders of Amazonas sat for ku band please tell me something about.

thanks PPconejo

[chaddux]

some one have information about the transponders of Amazonas sat for ku band please tell me something about.

thanks PPconejo

Once again, another example of why OLD THREADS SHOULD BE LOCKED! Another newbie registers just to bump a thread almost a year old.

[James Long]

I'm sure he didn't register TO bump the thread. He registered to get his question answered. :nono: How about clicking the ! icon and reporting it, instead of such a rude welcome?

BTW: Welcome!

JL

[JohnH]

some one have information about the transponders of Amazonas sat for ku band please tell me something about.

thanks PPconejo
http://www.lyngsat.com/amazonas.html

[Darkman]

Chaddux, and who is crying and whining NOW .. like an 8-year old girl? :)

Leave those threads alone.. (it's not the end of the world anyways)...

He saw amazonas.. He asked amazonas..

This is not Iraq here nor Afganistan.. or whatever.. where people are afraid to open their mouthes....

Besides.. it's not like 99 % of old threads are constantly being lifted...

And you are the only one who mostly complains anyhow....
You asked and asked.. and asked and asked ------> It ain't happening (by the looks of it) .. It would SUCK if it was though.. - so just leave it alone already... :)

Put it this way.. regardless if or how much you like what you are suggesting (it's not the Greatest idea out there) ;)

[jsanders]

Chaddux, and who is crying and whining NOW .. like an 8-year old girl? :)


Good one! You never know, maybe his name is really Chadrina.

How old are you anyway chaddux?