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larrystotler
08-21-04, 10:54 PM
Ok, I was bored and found an SW42 while digging through some boxes. So, I tried this:

SW64, 110 sat, ports 2a/2b
SW42, 119 sat
SW21 ties both together,
301/13 rec, s/w P203

First attempt:

Did not check the superdish, 38 tests, came up: sw21 3sat
SW42 as sat 1(119 on sat 1), SW64 as sat 2(using port 3 from the SW64)

Input 1 1 1 1 2 2
119 119 110 110 x x
odd evn odd evn x x

Problem detected, check connections.

Second attempt:

Checked SuperDish, 50 tests, came up: SW21 4 Sat
SW42 as sat 1(119 on sat 1), SW64 as sat 2(using port 3 from the SW64)

Input 1a-1 1b-1 2a-1 2b-1 3a-1 3b-1 2 2
x x x x 119 x x x
x x x x odd x x x

Problem detected, check connections.

Third attempt:

Checked SuperDish, 50 tests, came up: SW21
SW42 as sat 1(119 on sat 2), SW64 as sat 2(using port 3 from the SW64)

Input 1 1 1a-2 1b-2 2a-2 2b-2 3a-2 3b-2
x x x x 110 110 x x
x x x x odd even x x

Problem detected, check connections.

Fourth attempt:

SW64 as sat 1, SW42 as sat 2(119 on sat 2).
Checked SD, 50 tests, came up: SW21 4sat

Input 1a-1 1b-1 2a-1 2b-1 3a-1 3b-1 2 2
x x 110 110 x x x x
x x odd evn x x x x

Problem detected, check connections.
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Fifth attempt:

SW64 as sat 1, SW42 as sat 2(119 on sat 1)
Checked SD, 50 tests, came up: SW21 4-sat

Input 1a-1 1b-1 2a-1 2b-1 3a-1 3b-1 2 2
x x 110 110 x x 119 119
x x odd even x x odd evn

Problem detected, check connections.

I left the SD checked since it only found the 3 sat locations the first test.

Granted, I know I only have 2 sat locations at the moment, but the system should see all 3 switches if the logic is there. I'm going to have to say that right now it looks like it won't see all 3 switches. It actually seems to do the same thing that Mike saw with the DP testing, in that it only shows the first sat on the second switch, however, the SW21 doesn't seem to care which port, but which switch. It's interesting to note that it shows the sat 2 line on the sw21 as #2. And, it is interesting that on test 4, with the 119 on the sat 2 of the SW42, it didn't see that one, but on test 2, it seems to have reversed the lines and has the SW64 as sat one as well as the SW42, and has the 119 on the wrong switch. And at no time did it actually say that the SW42 was there.......weird.

When I have some more time, I'll do some repeat runs since the SW42 isn't exactly the most reliable switch, & I will set up the 61.5/105/121 and see what happens with all 5, but I am not very optimistic......

scooper
08-22-04, 05:19 AM
THat's not the way legacy switches work - they only will work properly IF there is a signal present.

larrystotler
08-22-04, 10:13 AM
THat's not the way legacy switches work - they only will work properly IF there is a signal present.

As longa as there is 1 sat connected to each switch, the receiver will see the switch. Doesn't matter how many sats are hooked up. The purpose was to see how many switches would be seen. Each time, the max was an SW21 4-sat.

alebowgm
08-24-04, 02:08 AM
Im wondering what the results wound up being...

Any news?

alebowgm
08-24-04, 02:09 AM
I ask because this is what I am considering doing on my end...

SW42 with 105/121 (or a SW21x, as it is considered a SW42)
SW64 with 110/119/61.5

larrystotler
08-24-04, 07:14 AM
I haven't really had time to get back to it. Also, the SX21X is not an SW42, it is 1/2 of an SW42. As to whether it will do what you are asking, I dunno. I didn't have very much success so far, and I don't foresee an older box actually being able to see all 5 sats. Only the newer 3 digit boxes seem to have the firmware for 5 sats, and that may be because it will not work on legacy systems. If I have time this week, I will do some more testing.

alebowgm
08-24-04, 02:53 PM
I disagree with you on that and here is why (I have done a lot of thinking on this in the last day).

I know that both the 2700 and 2800 recievers for Dish Network have taken updates and in the updates you can choose from the following.

Superdish 3 Sat
Superdish 4 Sat
Superdish Full

Now I would think that the SUperdish 3 Sat would be the current SUPERDISH that you can purchase on the market today, which would be 105/110/119 or 110/119/121. The Superdish 4 Sat would mean adding one more dish to the mix ie 105/110/119/121 or 61/105/110/119 or 61/110/119/121 (you can replace 61 with 148 or probably even 157).

Wouldnt that mean Superdish Full would be a 5 Dish solution?

That is why I think it will work. Just getting the proper combination may be a pain.

Another question is that I know using Dish Pro devices you can go 5 Dish. Can you use all the Dish Pro Equipment and then when you have the single feed that is going to go to the reciever, use the Dishpro to Legacy adapter and then go into a 2800? Hmm...

Let me know

(I just bid on eBay to get a SW64)

larrystotler
08-25-04, 09:22 AM
I have no idea if a legacy box will work with a DP adapter on 5 sats. I have inquired, but no responses. And I don't have a DP adapter or a DP+44 to test it out with. As for the check boxes on the legacy systems, with the both box checked, that would be for the 150/110/119/121 without a wing.

alebowgm
08-25-04, 10:57 PM
That setupu you just gave, wouldn't that be a Superdish 4 Sat?

I think a Superdish Full would be a 5 Sat solution...

When I get my equipment in, then I will let you know (although that can take a while)...

larrystotler
08-26-04, 08:41 PM
Not neccessarily. A superdish 4 sat could be 1 SD with a wing, and an SD full could just mean both SDs and the 110/119.