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alebowgm
09-06-04, 01:23 PM
Interesting article today floating around the internet, including financial numbers on how much DTV makes on its 592-598 stations. It was posted over at CBS2 - New York CBS affiliate...

http://cbsnewyork.com/entertainment/entertainment_story_249201229.html



In 2002, Comcast, the nation's largest cable company, pulled in $50 million from adult programming. All the nation's top cable operators, from Time Warner to Cablevision, distribute sexually explicit material to their subscribers. But you won't read about it in their annual reports. Same with satellite providers like EchoStar and DirecTV, which is owned by Hughes Technology, a subsidiary of General Motors.

How much does DirecTV make off of adult product?

“They don't break the number out. But I would guess they'd probably get a couple hundred million, maybe as much as $500 million, off of adult entertainment, in a broad sense,” says Dennis McAlpine, a partner in McAlpine Associates, who has tracked the entertainment industry for over two decades. “I would think it's probably more than what their overall profit is. The other areas are losing money. That's making money.”

Then there are the big hotel chains: Hilton, Marriot, Hyatt, Sheraton and Holiday Inn, which all offer adult films on in-room pay-per-view television systems. And they are purchased by a whopping 50 percent of their guests, accounting for nearly 70 percent of their in-room profits. One hotel owner said, "We have to have it. Our guests demand it.”

One of the largest owners and programmers of in-room pay-per-view is Liberty Media, a publicly traded company run by media mogul John Malone, one of the most powerful people in the communications industry.

McAlpine says that adult entertainment has become a critical part of the entertainment business: “Adult is a major factor in determining the profits of a cable system, an in-house hotel system, a satellite system. It's a big profit contributor.”

So how do these corporations get involved in it?

“I think that they get involved in it because of the profit margins that are involved. One of the things about pornography that's consistently true across the board is that because there's a social stigma still attached to it, you can charge a premium for these materials. And because you can charge a premium for it, the profit margin is higher. So, it makes pure economic sense,” says Fred Lane, a lawyer and author of a book called “Obscene Profits: The Entrepreneurs Of Pornography In the Cyber Age.”

Selenna
09-06-04, 04:34 PM
gee whiz... isn't the point of posting a link so that people can go and read the entire article? I like those who snip a quote so I can decide if I want to follow the link but posting the whole thing when it's over 3000 words?

As for the facts themselves... nothing surprising there.

FTA Michael
09-06-04, 07:05 PM
gee whiz... isn't the point of posting a link so that people can go and read the entire article?Not to mention:
"(MMIV, CBS Broadcasting Inc., All Rights Reserved.)"

For fair use, the quote should be short, maybe a sentence or two. As a substitute or supplement, you can and should summarize the article in your own words.

Mike D-CO5
09-06-04, 07:18 PM
A test will be given at the end of this thread , so everyone take notes.:lol:

Nick
09-06-04, 07:19 PM
alebowgm, to keep us out of dutch with the copyright cops, please edit your post to include just a few salient sentences. 10 screen pages is a bit much.

Thanks --Mod :smaileinh

alebowgm
09-06-04, 09:29 PM
There, made it shorter.

Would just like to say that I did give proper credit and URL's... Thats the only thing you learn to do in school :) ... lol...

In regard to the topic, I just think it is amazing how much money they make just off of a few channels...

Nick
09-06-04, 09:42 PM
Sex sells. Always has, always will.

I don't have any figures, but I would guestimate that the total take from pr0n on the internet alone is greater than the GNP of most of the world's countries.

It's got to be in the BILLION$! :new_puppy

HappyGoLucky
09-07-04, 09:21 AM
I fail to see the point of the article or interest. If there was no demand, there would be no profits. As long as the demand is from consenting adults, it isn't anyone's business, including any government (local, state, or federal).

Personally, I find most porn boring, especially that shown on cable/satellite/PPV. Porn on the internet gets cliche after a few minutes, there are far more interesting things to read or view. But if my neighbor wants to see it and isn't forcing it on me, more power to him.

FTA Michael
09-07-04, 11:29 AM
Would just like to say that I did give proper credit and URL's... Thats the only thing you learn to do in school :) Since you brought it up, it's a common fallacy that giving credit allows the quoter to reprint as much as desired. In fact, it does almost nothing to ameliorate infringement, should it actually go to court. (Scholarly fair use quotes are less than 1% of the original work, or are actually paraphrases with citations indicating where the information came from.)

An excellent rule of thumb is to estimate whether the quoter's efforts make any potential audience more likely or less likely to "purchase" the original. (Web pages are normally free to view, but may require registration or exposure to advertisements.) A short quote and a link may increase traffic. Reprinting everything anyone would want to know would decrease traffic regardless of the link.

If it were me, I'd headline this story "Analyst Says D* Makes $500M/Year from Porn", print Mr. McAlpine's quote, then link for the whole story. But I'm just some ol' newspaper guy. :)