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pangderx
10-06-04, 09:29 AM
they would begin to offer some talk channels for Sirius, especially since Howard Stern is moving to Sirius Jan 1 2006. Even if they offer Sirius as an add on for like $1.99/month, I bet a lot of Dish subs would pay. I currently have XM in the car and I like Howard, but I won't switch...I love my XM, but I would pay 2 bucks a month to hear him on Dish.

From Sirius.com:

NEW YORK – October, 6, 2004 – "King of All Media" Howard Stern and SIRIUS (NASDAQ: SIRI) announced today an epic agreement whereby Stern will move to SIRIUS beginning January 1, 2006. SIRIUS is the premium satellite radio provider known for delivering the very best in commercial-free music and sports programming to cars and homes across the country.

The world-renowned Stern is credited with revolutionizing the talk radio format. He is the No. 1 national radio host among males 18-49 years of age and ranks No. 1 in many of the 46 major markets where his show is broadcast, including New York and Los Angeles.

"It has been my dream to have the top-rated show in radio since I was five years old," said Stern. "SIRIUS - the future of radio – will take this dream to a whole new level as I bring my fans my show my way. It will be the best radio they will ever hear."

Known for his extremely loyal fan base and for his unequalled ability to migrate fans to other media, Stern has embarked on numerous highly successful ventures over the years while maintaining dominant ratings in his demographic. Stern has written two best-selling books - Private Parts, which was Simon & Schuster's fastest selling book ever, and Miss America, the fastest selling book in publishing history. He later starred in the highly successful motion picture adaptation of Private Parts, orchestrated the fastest-selling soundtrack in motion picture history and starred in the most watched entertainment pay-per-view special of all time. "The Howard Stern Show" is the E! television network's most successful show.

"Signing Howard Stern is, without a doubt, the most exciting and transformational event in the history of radio," said Joseph P. Clayton, CEO of SIRIUS. "He is an entertainment force of unprecedented recognition and popularity in the broadcast world, who is capable of changing the face of satellite radio and generating huge numbers of subscribers for SIRIUS."

"Howard is an incredible creative and comedic icon, and we are thrilled that he chose SIRIUS to broadcast what everyone believes will be the most exciting part of his career," said Scott Greenstein, SIRIUS President of Entertainment and Sports. "There is absolutely no one like Howard Stern, and I'm excited that, for the first time, his show will be heard across the entire country as it was always meant to be heard."

Greenstein negotiated the five-year, multi-million dollar agreement with Don Buchwald, who represents Stern.

Buchwald said: "An important new industry is being developed and Howard wants to be its leader. He is truly excited to be working with SIRIUS, which will not only provide a new and innovative platform for his broadcast talents, but will draw on his skills as a businessman. SIRIUS has offered Howard and his fans a great opportunity to be a part of something truly remarkable, and we look forward to a spectacular future."

Through SIRIUS' nationwide broadcast system, Stern will be heard in every market across the country. Moreover, Stern's tremendous popularity among males 18 - 49 matches perfectly with SIRIUS' target demographic.

SIRIUS estimates that Stern only would need to generate approximately 1 million subscribers in order to cover the costs of the deal. Total production and operating costs for the Stern show, including compensation of the show cast and staff, overhead, construction costs for a dedicated studio, and a budget for the development of additional programming and marketing concepts, is estimated to be approximately $100 million per year.

"When you look at his enormous existing fan base, all we need is for Howard to bring in a small fraction of his weekly audience for this agreement to pay for itself," said Clayton. "Anyone who knows Howard, and who understands how loyal his fan base is, will not have a hard time seeing the incredible potential for growth that he will represent for SIRIUS. We are absolutely delighted that he will be joining our company, and we look forward to expanding the scope and diversity of SIRIUS programming with him."

Additional information regarding the agreement is available in a Current Report on Form 8-K filed by SIRIUS with the Securities and Exchange Commission.

SIRIUS will host a conference call today at 9:15 am ET to brief analysts on the agreement. The audio portion of the call will be webcast at www.sirius.com.

dfergie
10-06-04, 09:31 AM
I would listen to Raw Dog if it was added for sure... :) I listen to it when I'm not listening to Buzzsaw, Classic Vinyl or 80's in my truck

ShadowEKU
10-06-04, 10:00 AM
Dish already said that they cant/wont add any talk channels

Bobby94928
10-06-04, 10:27 AM
Let's see, Dish gives Sirius Music channels to us for free, if we have AT120 or above. For Howard Stern you want Dish to jeopardize something we get for free. I suggest, that if you like Howard that much, go get a Sirius receiver, pay your 12 bucks and leave what's free, just that, free.

garypen
10-06-04, 10:29 AM
And everybody here knows...When Dish announces something, they ALWAYS stick to it. (For a couple of weeks, anyway.)

DWS44
10-06-04, 10:49 AM
2006?

Wow...nothing like waiting to the last minute to announce it to everyone! :lol:

pangderx
10-06-04, 12:37 PM
Well I don't listen to him much anymore. And let me clarify...I bet people would pay 2 bucks a month to listen to Howard on Sirius...if it alone was an add on. Meaning, the music on Diah is free and the talk is extra. But if Dish has said they won't/can't add talk, then it's not an issue.

Plus, Howard announced it now, because after the election, he can't Bush bash anymore so he needs 15 months to promote the move.

Like I said, I have XM and I'm not changing services, paying 13 bucks a month for the service, plus whatever the extra "premium" charge will be to listen to Howard (and there will be one)...just to hear him curse. I barely listen now when it's free, I won't pay 15 bucks a month to listen.

garypen
10-06-04, 02:19 PM
...after the election, he can't Bush bash anymore ...From your mouth to God's ears.:D

James Long
10-06-04, 07:10 PM
...after the election, he can't Bush bash anymore ...From your mouth to God's ears.:DYep. No point in mentioning Bush after he wins in November. :lol:
I just hope he wins the popular vote this time. It will be sick if we all have to deal with months of explaining the electoral college system ... again. But I digress ...

There was some early talk about getting a couple of Sirius talk channels up, but it went nowhere.

JL

garypen
10-07-04, 12:07 AM
Yep. No point in mentioning Bush after he wins in November. Yeah. That's it.

Cholly
10-07-04, 08:26 AM
Stern and the other shock jocks are moving to satellite to avoid trouble with the FCC. No censorship, so Stern can step up his language, etc. to appeal to his devoted fans.
Sirius is banking on Stern's presence to stem their losses.I'd wonder how Dish could handle Stern's channel on Sirius. There would definitely have to have a means of blocking the channel for people who don't fit Stern's male 18-49 target audience and who don't want it to be heard by their young kids.

bavaria72
10-07-04, 08:46 AM
I'm sure the only way you will be able to get Howard on the E* provided Sirius channels is with an "ugrade"/additional cost service. E* will step around that very lightly. They will not want to piss off a whole bunch of subs. Howard is an aquired taste. Besides, another revenue stream for both E* and Sirius.

jrbdmb
10-07-04, 09:30 AM
Dish already said that they cant/wont add any talk channelsDish can't / won't add the existing talk channels because they are Sirius-owned content and it would be difficult / expensive to get licenses from the content owners to put this stuff on Dish. OTOH, Dish should be able to work out a deal to get the Stern channel on if they want. Will they want to? We'll see later next year.

James Long
10-07-04, 05:41 PM
Stern and the other shock jocks are moving to satellite to avoid trouble with the FCC. No censorship, so Stern can step up his language, etc. to appeal to his devoted fans.No censorship ... yet. But I wouldn't rule that out forever. The FCC is also looking at standards for basic cable channels.

JL

Shub
10-08-04, 02:56 AM
Sirius is banking on Stern's presence to stem their losses.I'd wonder how Dish could handle Stern's channel on Sirius. There would definitely have to have a means of blocking the channel for people who don't fit Stern's male 18-49 target audience and who don't want it to be heard by their young kids.Some of the channels have NR/AO ratings. A couple of the hip-hop channels and possibly buzzsaw. And any new receiver can lock Sirius channels, as well.

ehren
10-08-04, 07:41 AM
Yeah well people can lock out the adult titles if they don't wanna see the title "boobie mania 43" so they can do the same if Stern is added!!!

SAEMike
10-08-04, 09:07 AM
For Sirius offering the channels on Dish Network gives a peek at the Sirius channels, while still having more to offer subscribers. If they broadcast their entire lineup on Dish, they will lose out on the people they might be able to sign up as new customers, because they are already recieving the content for free.

garypen
10-08-04, 11:30 AM
Exactly. The current Sirius lineup on Dish is a marketing tool to get people to subscribe to full Sirius package. It's also a bonus ("value add" in moronic corporate speak) that gives exisiting Dish subs an incentive to subscribe to AT120 or better, and new subs a reason to choose Dish over DirecTV.

Currently, it's win-win for Dish and Sirius. Adding the full Sirius lineup would reduce the value of the partnership, especially for Sirius.

Another possibility would be to offer the full Sirius lineup at the same, or slightly discounted, cost as a direct Sirius subscription. Then, Sirius would still reap the benefit. And, Dish might get subs who want Sirius, but don't want to spend the dough on add'l HW.

Geronimo
10-08-04, 11:32 AM
Maybe but $1.99 seems unreasonably low to me. The free taste thing works for both sides. Much more than that probably does not.

garypen
10-08-04, 11:36 AM
What's $41.99?

finniganps
10-08-04, 12:49 PM
No censorship ... yet. But I wouldn't rule that out forever. The FCC is also looking at standards for basic cable channels.

There's DEFINATELY censorship now and always has been -they're called decentcy standards. I assume you meant something else with your comment.

Paul Secic
10-08-04, 03:33 PM
And everybody here knows...When Dish announces something, they ALWAYS stick to it. (For a couple of weeks, anyway.)
They could always change thier Minds. The heck with Stern, I'd like BBC!

Paul Secic
10-08-04, 03:49 PM
Dish can't / won't add the existing talk channels because they are Sirius-owned content and it would be difficult / expensive to get licenses from the content owners to put this stuff on Dish. OTOH, Dish should be able to work out a deal to get the Stern channel on if they want. Will they want to? We'll see later next year.
Who pays for music? Sirus or Sirus/Dish? If you ask Dish can dump AUD mono, when the contracts up. Does anyone listen to those?

SteveinDanville
10-09-04, 11:12 AM
I would listen to Raw Dog if it was added for sure... :) I listen to it when I'm not listening to Buzzsaw, Classic Vinyl or 80's in my truck
I love Raw Dog, and I would get Sirius just for that. Now with Howard Stern, I'm going to be looking into Sirius for my car. By the way, I'm a 50 year old sales executive, so I'm not a head-banging moron; I just think Howard is clever as hell and he makes me smile on my way to work. Not enough of that in the world, the way I look at it.