921 / HDTV Pak discount

[cpufixer1]

I am a Dish Network annual customer and have been since 1996. My renewal comes up next month. I understand there are two discounts for new customers that I am looking for. A 921 for around $200 and 6-months free of HDTV programming. My question is how to I get Dish to give me these discounts without threatening to switch to Direct or Cablevision.

[Unthinkable]

I am a Dish Network annual customer and have been since 1996. My renewal comes up next month. I understand there are two discounts for new customers that I am looking for. A 921 for around $200 and 6-months free of HDTV programming. My question is how to I get Dish to give me these discounts without threatening to switch to Direct or Cablevision.

No one has answered yet, so I'll throw in my two cents on this. I'm often curious why the rampant backlash against satellite piracy in general on the various Dish Network forums and newsgroups tends to turn a deaf ear and blind eye towards subscribers looking to knowingly deceive, defraud, and misrepresent themselves in the efforts to double or triple dip on new subscriber promotions while often selling older equipment for a profit on Ebay! You see it openly condoned all the time by dealers and subscribers alike same as you read about subscribers actively condoning "moving" to get additional programming. Bottom line is we all ultimately wind up paying for this kind of greed/thievery in the end with higher rates and more frequent price hikes when people abuse said promotions and resort to empty threats to cancel just for the sake of getting more for nothing. My advice is to pony up the cash if you desire a hardware upgrade just like all the other legitimate subs do fwiw, but others will likely tell you otherwise. Be honest and avoid the label of being the "cheap SOB" and pay for it the right way (hold out for a good existing subscriber deal you can live with in the meantime) if you want something newer since its not really something you need to have to sustain life by any stretch of the imagination. Follow your own set of internal guidelines and principals as if you were the provider running the show. If the roles were reversed and the tables were turned, you wouldn't want to see people actively looking to take advantage of you as a provider at every beck and call I wouldn't think from the standpoint of wanting to see your business grow and thrive. Refer to this thread if you want to see precisely what I'm talking about:
http://www.satelliteguys.us/showthread.php?t=34636

[sluggo]

I am a Dish Network annual customer and have been since 1996. My renewal comes up next month. I understand there are two discounts for new customers that I am looking for. A 921 for around $200 and 6-months free of HDTV programming. My question is how to I get Dish to give me these discounts without threatening to switch to Direct or Cablevision.
I have never heard of a new customer getting a 921 for $200. anyone else heard of that one? You can't even get them from Dish directly as they don't sell them direct...you have to get one through a retailer...and i have never heard of any of them sell a 921 for $200 either.

[cpufixer1]

I was not trying to deceive or defraud Dish Network, I am just trying to get the same discounts as a new customer. I have been a customer since 1996 and given Dish over $3500 of my money and expect a few discounts in return. When I signed up in '96, you had to buy your own equipment and I did. I am not looking for a dealer to change my address to be a "NEW" customer. The bottom line is Cablevision is giving away HD for free and if it was not that I already own a 501 and 508 I would switch. I am looking to continue my relationship with Dish, but with the right equipment at the right price. And the next time you want to rant, understand the persons intentions before you do.

[bbriggs]

My 2 cents: Unthinkable has a good point, double or triple dipping into new subscriber promotions is tacky. Many of us are in CPUfixer's position, though, where we did not get any promotion many years ago. Were we to get in on a new subscriber promotion it would be our first. In a bit of defense for E*, the 508, 6000u, and 721 deals for current customers weren't too bad. Maybe when the MPEG4 stuff obsoletes our current boxes those of us with nearly a decade of loyal subscription will get a deal comparable with a new subscriber?