Irritated of Spam? Get ready for SpIT

[Mark Holtz]

From Yahoo/USA Today:

Irritated by spam? Get ready for spit

A new strain of spam soon could have consumers spitting mad.

"Spit" - spam over Internet telephony - is beginning to surface as more people make phone calls over the Internet instead of regular phone lines, security experts say.

FULL ARTICLE HERE (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=677&e=9&u=/usatoday/20041110/bs_usatoday/irritatedbyspamgetreadyforspit)

[BuckeyeChris]

Another good reason not to get rid of your landline phone just yet.

[Nick]

My cells get no unwanted calls whatsoever. No TM, no spam, no SpIT, no nuttin. Zero. Zilch. Nada. None. 0. My primary wireless is my home phone and serves as a "cordless" phone and a go-anywhere phone all in one. Plus, I have the monetary benefit of free long distance calling. I haven't incurred a single toll charge in over four years.

For my particular needs I can't think of a single reason why would I need a wired phone under any circumstances, and I certainly wouldn't want to be stuck at any computer in order to make a VoIP call. When I walk around the house, there's a phone in every room where I am because it's with me, right here in my pocket.

Call me, and if I'm not taking a nap, I'll take your call! :D

[BuckeyeChris]

I could think of one very big reason why I won't be dropping my landline phone in favor of my wireless phone: coverage at my house stinks! I get one bar and the caller sounds like he's talking underwater. It doesn't matter the carrier; I've tried two of the larger ones in my region; it's the same result. My landline phone is crystal clear; my cell phone isn't there yet.

[Unthinkable]

I keep my landline strictly for DSL. Cable internet from Comcast is way too expensive for non-cable subscribers here and "naked DSL" or "dry pair" is still a foreign concept to Verizon despite them issuing press releases to the contrary back in March that it would be available in April in the Northeast. Very much looking forward to the day when naked DSL is offered so I can switch everything to a cell phone.

[SimpleSimon]

"naked DSL" and "dry pair" are two very different things that have absolutely nothing to do with each other.

"dry pair" is renting just the copper from point-to-point with no services. In every area I've worked in, it's horribly expensive - much much more than it deserves.

[cdru]

"naked DSL" and "dry pair" are two very different things that have absolutely nothing to do with each other.Would you mind elaborating on this a little more?

I assumed that naked DSL was DSL without a dialtone on the line. Basically just using the same copper that your phone would use, just not having a dialtone. A dry pair is similar, just between two locations via the CO using the phone companies copper lines. Example being the old alarm circuits. In the case of naked DSL, the end point just happens to be the CO.

[SimpleSimon]

cdru: Your statements are all correct (except "A dry pair is similar"). And so is mine. :)

In your context, ALL pairs are "dry pairs". But that's not what it means.

DSL means there's phone company equipment attached. This means it's NOT a "dry pair".

I think the confusion is in thinking that "dry" just means no dialtone. It goes farther than that. "dry" means no involvement by the CLEC.

Now I a third-party provider might use a dry pair to connect to their own DSLAM co-located in the CO - in which case your thoughts are on the money. But said connection might also have the third-party's dialtone (if customer wanted), meaning it was no longer "naked DSL".

Did I clarify or muddy the water?

[Unthinkable]

Both terms are used interchangably over at DSL Reports, in the media, and by Verizon CSR's. You can have dry pair with DSL.

[SimpleSimon]

Try ordering a dry pair with DSL from a CLEC, then come back and say that. ;)

The definition of dry pair is something that has NO CLEC electronics, and has certain specific electrical characteristics.

[Unthinkable]

Try ordering a dry pair with DSL from a CLEC, then come back and say that. ;)

The definition of dry pair is something that has NO CLEC electronics, and has certain specific electrical characteristics.

SHDSL delivered via dry pair:

http://biz.verizon.net/pands/shdsl/packages/

[SimpleSimon]

SHDSL delivered via dry pair:

http://biz.verizon.net/pands/shdsl/packages/Where's it say "dry pair"???

I did read the fine print: "Offer for Verizon local telephone customers only."

That implies that you're going to be adding DSL to an existing voice line.

[Unthinkable]

More on this here:

http://www.fiveanddime.net/dsl-rollyerown.htm

[SimpleSimon]

You just made my point for me.But there is another way to keep the signal from being messed with and that's by ordering-up from the phone company what's generally called a "dry copper pair." This is just a pair of wires that connect one location with another as long as both locations are served by the same CO.And the context within the article is that this is a way to do what the CLECs do. ;)