View Full Version : dvr 522, horible artifacting
beerbongvodka
11-13-04, 07:08 PM
ive read the manual and browsed many forums now, and have found no way to turn up the recording quality, im viewing the dvr on a 27inch hd tv and the picture is worse than off air tv!
anyone else have this complaint? any suggestions?
ive triend hooking it thru composite and thru svideo, both looks horible
thanks
beerbongvodka
11-13-04, 11:50 PM
is it possible having a 65 to 70 strenght signal is causing this??
nsafreak
11-14-04, 12:01 AM
That's possible since it is more likely to have pixelization due to signal strength dropping below acceptable threshholds. Answer these questions as best as you can please:
1) What is your signal strength on satellite 119 transponders 19-21 as well as satellite 110 same transponders?
2) How do you have the 522 hooked up to this TV? Composite, S-video, coaxial?
3) How old is the cabling that is run from the dish to the 522? Is this newer RG6 graded cable? What is the frequency rating for the cable?
4) What LNB & switch (if any) do you have hooked up on the dish?
5) Do you have a clear unobstructed line of sight?
SimpleSimon
11-14-04, 12:15 AM
65-70 is unacceptable - but is it on a transponder you use?
The standard reference (nsafreak: please note) for signal strength is transponders 11 & 12 for 110 & 119. You should be getting AT LEAST 85 for all four, and 100 is not difficult.
beerbongvodka
11-14-04, 12:18 AM
65-70 is unacceptable - but is it on a transponder you use?
The standard reference (nsafreak: please note) for signal strength is transponders 11 & 12 for 110 & 119. You should be getting AT LEAST 85 for all four, and 100 is not difficult.
i rechecked it and its averaging 83 now
should i have them send some stooges over to reaim the dish??
or do you think it could be the box?
my picture looks like a dvd rip at a 50 percent compresion rate, this is ridiculious
thanks simon
garypen
11-14-04, 02:36 AM
my picture looks like a dvd rip at a 50 percent compresion rate, this is ridiculious
thanks simonThat's the way many Dish channels look normally, especially locals.
SimpleSimon
11-14-04, 01:49 PM
Gary - it may or may not be the typical E* overcompression.
Again, I ask what the numbers are for TPs 11 & 12 on 110 & 119.
Definitely complain to your installer/dealer in sunny Phoenix that signal is too low for a quality install. But your picture quality won't be affected by that signal level, you have another problem, hopefully a bad 522.
Again, I ask what the numbers are for TPs 11 & 12 on 110 & 119.
Every time I call they want to know the SS for 19 & 20 on 119 and 20 & 21 on 110. I believe tohse to be the "standards".
SimpleSimon
11-14-04, 08:20 PM
Every time I call they want to know the SS for 19 & 20 on 119 and 20 & 21 on 110. I believe tohse to be the "standards".Depends on the CSR - but tell me the truth - do you actually believe them anyway?
Note that by their rules it's different TPs for 110 & 119? Why make it more complicated than it needs to be?
Most folks here use 11 & 12 (note that it's an odd/even pair), so there's an extensive history to work from.
beerbongvodka
11-15-04, 10:46 AM
Gary - it may or may not be the typical E* overcompression.
Again, I ask what the numbers are for TPs 11 & 12 on 110 & 119.
11 has 83
12 is 83
110 has 90
119 has 82
i did just rule out its the dvr by throwing the basic box onto my hd, both have similar artifacting. hows this acceptable broadcasting? man im glad i didnt sign a damn contract
ayalbaram
11-15-04, 11:23 AM
it isn't your signal strength as long as its 80+ you should have no problems, it is due to the compression that dish uses. it is much more visable on an hdtv then a sdtv. also how is the receiver connected to the tv? use an s-video if you can, and you may want to look at a line doubler/upconverter to help with pq
brentsj
11-15-04, 11:59 AM
It's not signal strength, it's the compression. I can be watching a program while it's recording and it looks fine. I'll then watch the recording of the show I just watched, and it's pixelated, sometimes horribly. My signal strength is averaging 90 across the board.
This software on this player is buggy. Hopefully they'll get it fixed sooner rather than later.
garypen
11-15-04, 12:09 PM
This software on this player is buggy. Hopefully they'll get it fixed sooner rather than later.And, hopefully I'll win Lotto. You're looking at about the same odds.
beerbongvodka
11-15-04, 05:03 PM
it isn't your signal strength as long as its 80+ you should have no problems, it is due to the compression that dish uses. it is much more visable on an hdtv then a sdtv. also how is the receiver connected to the tv? use an s-video if you can, and you may want to look at a line doubler/upconverter to help with pq
line doubler built into tv, using svideo
pixelation wouldnt come from my cables though, only color and picture disortions
this is compresion like a mo fo...seems to just be how dish pumps this sewage picture down from the sky....
and yeah looks better on a SD tv, just like any of my higher compressed dvd back ups. damn you hd for showing all the flaws in the picture
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