What Channels wouldn't you miss??

[Uncle Peter]

If Dish Network dropped some channels and cleaned up the line-up, which channels wouldn't you care if they went bye bye??? :grin:

Me.....Shopping Channels.

[jrwinter]

If Dish Network dropped some channels and cleaned up the line-up, which channels wouldn't you care if they went bye bye??? :grin:

Me.....Shopping Channels. SPORTS,SHOPPING FORIEGN AND MUSIC I THINK THEY HAVE TO MANY OF ALL OF THESE!

[khearrean]

As to the music channels, at least the mono channels s/b eliminated; also the TV Guide channel.
Since I have Dish's Everything Pak, I'm not too familiar with the other packages, but with Sirius now available, it would seem to me all other music channels could be eliminated. Just my take...

Ken

[BobMurdoch]

Ditch the PPV movie channels. Only the pirates are watching these things. (Leave a handful for the big boxing and wrestling events, concerts, etc. which generate big bucks but take up not that much bandwidth)

The shopping channels don't bug me because they generate revenue instead of COSTING money to us (and subsequently keep costs down, even if it is only a few nickels a month).

There are a few other channels that I never watch, but I understand that there is SOMEONE who likes a particular niche channel, so I don't want to kill it for them in the hopes that they would do the same for me and my VH1 Classic, G4TechTV, Travel Channel, etc.).

At this point we should be hoping that they devote more of those satellite assets coming online to more HD channels so that E* doesn't fall too far behind D* who is planning a MAJOR HD upgrade next year......

[zman977]

Ditch the PPV movie channels. Only the pirates are watching these things. ..

My wife and I watch the ppv channles and we are not pirates. All inclusive statements like that tend to be false. The channles I would like to see go are
the shopping Channles and I personally could do without Lifetime Movie Network and WE. I mean how many women in jepordy movie networks do we really need.

[boba]

ESPN,ESPN2, ESPNEWS, ESPN Classic definitely could leave basic packages.

[BobMurdoch]

My wife and I watch the ppv channles and we are not pirates. All inclusive statements like that tend to be false. The channles I would like to see go are
the shopping Channles and I personally could do without Lifetime Movie Network and WE. I mean how many women in jepordy movie networks do we really need.

OK, no harm intended...... I've go a dozen friends and family and none of them have ever ordered one (with the excpetion of a few who burned up a coupon after Charlie raised prices and tried to placate everyone with a coupon for a free movie....)

Then again my sister DOES watch a lot of those women in peril networks YOU just swept up in one of those "all inclusive statements". :lol:

Hey, try to take away ANY channel and someone is bound to scream.....

[Paul Secic]

If Dish Network dropped some channels and cleaned up the line-up, which channels wouldn't you care if they went bye bye??? :grin:

Me.....Shopping Channels.
LIFETIME
LIFETIME MOVIE
REALITY
SI
TBN
EWTN
MTV
MTV1
SPEED
SPIKE
Discovery
All cartoon channels
G4TECHTV (for sure)
E!
WE
FOXnews

[larrystotler]

If you don't want to watch a certain channel, delete it from your favorite list. I don't care for sports, but a lot of subs do, and the forign language channels are a very profittable part of E*'s business. I may not want or need them, but I can't make E* get rid of them anymore than I can get any of the channels to get rid of commercials. If 5% of the subs watch a certain channel, it is their right to contrinue to watch it whether the other 95% don't like it so long as it doesn't cost the rest of us. Many of the channels on E* do not cost E* to have them. They would not get carraige if they tried to charge. All these fools that think paying for the channels you actually watch have no idea how it it will cost. Instead of having 10 million subs with CNN, if only 2 million had it, it would cost those 2 millions more in the long run. Like all of our systems here, it is far from perfect, but it works. If you wanna pay more, get digital cable.

[blakjak]

All the religion channels, C-SPAN 1 & 2 & 3 & 4 & 5...hehe, the mono audio channels, and the reasonably priced porn channels :D

[GutBomb]

this may be controversial, but locals. the overwhelming majority of bandwidth used by dish network is locals. make a deal with the networks to have Dish Network NBC ABC Fox CBAS WB and UPN affilates. I know it would never happen, but man that would rock.

[dtanderson]

all of the sports channels, shopping channels, BET,CMT, the news networks (CNN, etc..)- I would rather watch my local news, and drop the audio channels except for the Sirius ones. I am sure that if I was looking at my guide now, I could name alot more :)

[angiecopus]

I would not miss

Mtv
Mtv2
All the Shopping networks except qvc and hsn
G4ttv
Bitv

[khearrean]

If you don't want to watch a certain channel, delete it from your favorite list. I don't care for sports, but a lot of subs do, and the forign language channels are a very profittable part of E*'s business. I may not want or need them, but I can't make E* get rid of them anymore than I can get any of the channels to get rid of commercials. If 5% of the subs watch a certain channel, it is their right to contrinue to watch it whether the other 95% don't like it so long as it doesn't cost the rest of us. Many of the channels on E* do not cost E* to have them. They would not get carraige if they tried to charge. All these fools that think paying for the channels you actually watch have no idea how it it will cost. Instead of having 10 million subs with CNN, if only 2 million had it, it would cost those 2 millions more in the long run. Like all of our systems here, it is far from perfect, but it works. If you wanna pay more, get digital cable.

I may be wrong here, but I thought the originator's intent of this post was possibly to eliminate channels to help with compression issues which would improve SD PQ. If so, I would be all for it....but that's just me. :)

Ken

[David_Levin]

I'm with GutBomb...

Get back to basics - dump the LIL locals (like voom). Keep E and W for the rural who qualify. Majority of other customers can pull OTA (which is going to happen anyway as more and more people want HD).

At the least, there shouldn't be ANY locals on Conus slots. They wouldn't know what to do with all the bandwidth.

[Hoobastank]

I'd love to see go from my bill...

foreign language stations (no comprende)
shopping stations (my father is addicted)
sports stations (if I want to watch a game, I go TO the game)
religious stations (Zzzzzz)
public interest stations (even more of a snooze fest)
women's interests (isn't Valerie Bertinellis in ALL of them?)
FOX News (right winged crackers)
Anything with FOX in the name actually.

Don't give me any crap about how the prices go up if shopping channels are removed. This is just a topic of what you'd like to see go. We all know how the greedy entertainment giants work, ok.

[BFG]

Well it's a lot easier for me to say what I watch. This is my favorites list:

1. NBC
2. CBS
3. ABC
4. FOX
5. UPN
6. USA
7. COMEDY
8. E!
9. SCI-FI
10. BRAVO
11. AMC
12. IFC
13. TCM
14. FX
15. ESPN2
16. MTV2
17. SPIKE
18. NICK
19. NICKW
20. TOOND
21. TOON
22. COURT
23. TBS
24. WGN
25. TNTHD
26. DSCHD
27. HDNET
28. HDNTM
29. ESPNHD

Everything else can go.

[catnap1972]

Any and all the sports channels...usually the first ones that whine about needing another rate increase.

[larrystotler]

I may be wrong here, but I thought the originator's intent of this post was possibly to eliminate channels to help with compression issues which would improve SD PQ. If so, I would be all for it....but that's just me. :)

Ken

That's just it. So long as some subs actually watch those channels, you will have carriage. And look at all the special interest channels that would cease as well. Almost every new channel being added is targeted at a specific niche. E* has a plan to help with the compression issues, MPEG4. Also, with the proliferation of new FSS slots, it would make more sense to move a lot of the speical interest channels, like locals, digital locals(I really wish people would quit calling them HD locals. The mandate is digital transmission, not HD PQ), and foriegn language to these slots, like they are currently doing with the 121.

[harsh]

ESPN,ESPN2, ESPNEWS, ESPN Classic definitely could leave basic packages.One of the advantages of Dish over DirecTV is the fact that you don't have to pay a substantial amount for the sports networks. Even cable includes many of the sports packages in its budget-conscious lineups.

I believe that what you suggest would be a move in the wrong direction.

[jrrdy1380]

I would get rid of most of the music channels (if you can call them music channels such as MTV, MTV2, Fuse), definitely drop G4TechTV (sucks since Comcast bought it just to put the G4 network into a larger market-TechTV network had its faults but it was an informative channel about computers and technology), all of the mono music channels (with Sirius on the AT120 and above packages really no need for these mono channels), TV Guide Channel (already have the guide provided-do not need to see Joan and Melissa Rivers anymore-got enough of them back when they were on E!), and Bingo TV (how this turkey ever got on the air is beyond my point of reason).

[BFG]

G4TechTV is not going anywhere, Dish Network actually owns a percentage of the channel.

Dish plans on removing the mono channels, but they have to fufill the contract with Muzak.

TV Guide Channel is not going anywhere as well, that was a settlement channel along with the information that enabled them to add NBR to the 522 and future DVRs.

Bingo TV might be going away on February, so you might get that one...

[rocatman]

Foxnews
Foxnews
Foxnews
Foxnews
Foxnews
Foxnews

[gopherscot]

Get rid of:

CNN
CNN
CNN
CNN

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[garydw]

Anything FOX

[Grasschopper]

Shopping networks, religious networks, mono audio channels, horse racing channels

None of these are compelling content.

[sikma]

My list of 'what to get rid of' would be too long, here's what I'd keep if I had the choice (ale carte)
1-locals 2-espn 3-espn2 4-tnt 5-usa 6-a&e 7-msnbc 8-foxnews 9-weather
These are the ONLY channels I watch!

[tvdxer]

- Local channels: They look better with an OTA antenna, take up bandwidth which could be used better for adding more HD channels or giving existing channels more room to breath.

- Most of the shopping channels

- The porn channels

- MTV :)

[sikma]

[QUOTE=tvdxer]- Local channels: They look better with an OTA antenna, take up bandwidth which could be used better for adding more HD channels or giving existing channels more room to breath.
QUOTE]
In theory maybe, but if you don't live in the metro, or because of terrain good luck getting a good OTA signal.

[tvdxer]

I live in the country (though not far from the transmitters). One here can get a fine signal with a pair of rabbit ears. Up to about 40-65 miles most homes, AFAIK, can put up a medium-to-large size outdoor antenna to watch locals. LIL's have bad picture quality, for one thing, but they also take up a TON of bandwidth. With big-dish no longer a truly viable option, people going to need somewhere to turn to to get a good picture.

[chevyn8]

It's difficult to get rid of any channel. LiL are a big deal around here and created a lot of new customers. The networks won't sign waviers, lots of hills, small towers, low power, etc... Oh and of course distance from the towers (everyone mentions distance from towers but that's only part of what's required to get a signal) That amounts to having some customers recieve a couple of local channels OTA with large amplified antenna's. Before LiL everyone had to have cable to recieve the all the locals. Even wireless 'cable' for the rural customers because of the lack of OTA signal is still available. Anyway, the shopping channels could go, but they generate money, the women channels could go (wife would be upset though), the crappy music channels(probably don't really use much bandwidth). How about let us pick and choose all the channels we want and see if supply/demand reduces the prices of some of the more expensive channels that dish pays for. Then the consumer could decide if channel A is worth X amout of dollars. But that will never happen. Right now my wife would like to have Hallmark, but with E* it's only in the expensive pack.

[FTA Michael]

Everything I like is obviously good, and every channel I don't watch is obviously a waste of bandwidth.

Feel free to copy and paste the above, as it seems to fit everyone. ;)

[dbodle]

If Dish would just put on every channel available to US viewers everybody would be happy and not have to complain about a channel being on that they don't watch while one they want to watch is not being carried.

[Bobby94928]

Yeah, but then we'd complain about the fact that the picture is so blurry that we just never turn the TV on.

[BobMurdoch]

Everything I like is obviously good, and every channel I don't watch is obviously a waste of bandwidth.

Feel free to copy and paste the above, as it seems to fit everyone. ;)

Reminds me of a George Carlin routine....

To paraphrase....

Everyone who drives slower than me is an idiot. Anyone who drives faster than me is a MANIAC! It's amazing me ever get ANYWHERE with all of these idiots and maiacs on the road at one time.

[Jacob S]

The locals are very important here as well and have a very high demand and is the reason why many people get the service and has kept business going for the retailers.

The channels I do not watch I know someone else does. The ones that people do not watch much are the shopping channels (which does not cost us anything so those would be alright to keep), the audio stations although they cant cost very much at all, the public interest channels (which are required by law to have), Bingo Tv (which is going byebye anyways), the other ones have a number of people that watch them whereas the ones one person dont like someone else does.

[GutBomb]

i'm not suggesting getting rid of the major networks. i advocate replacing 600 local channels with or 18 so there is an eastern/central, a mountain, and a pacific. An NBC, CBS, ABC, Fox, UPN, and WB affilliate for each time zone. the only thing that would be missing would be the local news.

Another reason i have not seen mentioned here is that you can't take your OTA locals into a DVR so eliminating the networks and not replacing them with a national (or regional) affiliate is not a good idea.

I would MUCH rather have a set of networks that only takes up 1 and a half transponders rather than having 20-30 transponders full of channels most of the country can't even see.

[BobMurdoch]

It won't happen...... the NAB wants EVERY little Mom and Pop affiliate carried (witness the furur raised over the two dish "solution"... and Congress's puppy dog like eagerness to squash it for their buddies at the NAB who pay 10X what satellite does in lobbying fees). They HATE satellite (they would much rather deal with Cable who normally is happy to push through their bloated programming increases every year)

[Spruceman]

"the audio stations although they cant cost very much at all, "

I never watch the audio channels either. I merely listen to them.