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lionsrule
12-16-04, 11:13 PM
The following statement is directly from dishnetwork. Take it for what it is worth:



We do not support OTA EPG data for the digital channels nor do we intend to. I'm not sure how much you know about OTA digital transmission so I will try to explain as much as I can. The OTA EPG data for digital stations are provided by the broadcasters via PSIP (Program and System Information Protocol). PSIP tables are incorporated in the broadcaster transport stream (please note that not all broadcaster provide this data). PSIP also provides virtual channel mapping, for example here in Denver NBC's digital channel is 16, but NBC provides data in their stream to map the digital channel to 04-01 (virtual channel mapping).

Before software version 7.77P we did not support PSIP at all, but now we partially support PSIP (virtual channel mapping portion, NOT EPG portion). So before 7.77P the model 6000 would have mapped Denver's NBC to 16-01, but still does not provide EPG data. We had to partially support PSIP in order to fix the "Multiple Majors" issue. So to clarify we do not supply the OTA EPG data for Digital channels (this is provided by the broadcaster via PSIP in their transport stream), since we do not fully support PSIP the model 6000 does not display the EPG data. We do provide EPG data for the analog ABC, NBC, CBS channels but ONLY during primetime hours, we retrieve the data form the East/West Nets. We do not intend on ever supporting EPG data for the digital OTA stations

Mark Lamutt
12-16-04, 11:16 PM
For what it's worth, that response is talking about the Dish 6000 receiver, not the 921.

DonLandis
12-17-04, 09:02 AM
But Mark, it is actually technically accurate as to the current state and history of the 921 wrt the PSIP and guide issues.
The iffy part of the reply for E* in general is the non technical aspects of the reply. I would doubt any statement by a E* rep that says what they will or will never do in the future. Their track record of integrity in this area is surely lacking.

TonyB
12-17-04, 10:25 AM
Mark,
Do you have the next beta yet? assuming there is one of course.

Also, is it time to start the L212 thread?

Tony

Mark Lamutt
12-17-04, 10:44 AM
No, there will be, and no. :)