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motjes2
05-09-02, 01:19 PM
Hi,

I have been a dish sub for about a year now. I am very happy with the service. I currently have a 501 with 5 additional 301 receivers. My question: If the 721 becomes available and I decide to upgrade (from the 501), will I have to pay E* for an extra account (721 comes with dual turner)? According to Dish, one can not add more than six receivers per account. Any information will be appreciated. Thanks.

Neil Derryberry
05-09-02, 01:34 PM
The last Charlie chat (or maybe the one before) confirmed that the second tuner wouldn't be charged the $5 access fee.

Martyva
05-09-02, 01:34 PM
From what i gather the 721 counts as a single hookup. Remember i'm old and often wrong.

Geronimo
05-09-02, 01:50 PM
I believe though that his question deals-----at least in part----with the fact that two lines go into the 721. It would require a new coax from the switch and I suppose that may be an issue.

Good question.

motjes2
05-09-02, 02:02 PM
Geronimo,

Thanks for clarifying the issue. This is exactly what I would like to know.

Also, it has not been clear to me why E* does not allow more than six receivers per account. Somebody brought this up once either on Charlie Chat or the Technical Forum Chat and the response was that E*'s accounting system will not allow it. I guess they do not have a billing system that can charge for more than six receivers per account. This I find to be odd, to say the least. The same happens at D*; I inquired and they told me that only six receivers per account is allowed to residential customers. No explanation why... Is the problem technical or is it really their billing system?

Any comments on both questions will be appreciated. Thanks.

05-09-02, 07:05 PM
On todays dealer CChat it we were told that the 721 would come out at the end of this month and ramp up quickly.

John Corn
05-09-02, 07:14 PM
Did they mention anything elese regarding the 721? Price?

05-09-02, 07:30 PM
NO, sorry

Ray Trautman
05-10-02, 12:56 AM
Two coax? I only have one coax going to the basement for the DBS will I need another for the 721 I have pre ordered? I may have to rethink this as there is no way to get another coax down there now that the house is built.

Scott Greczkowski
05-10-02, 06:04 AM
Yes in order to use both tuners you will need another COAX coming to your 721. If you dont want to use both tuners, then I suggest that you get a 501/508. :D

Geronimo
05-10-02, 07:01 AM
I think he knows he needs two but the question is will DISH allow him another if he is up to six already.

as for the other gentleman well you may have to go through a wall. It might be doable but I don't know your setup.

Scott Greczkowski
05-10-02, 07:25 AM
You can have only up to 6 receivers on an account. The model 721 counts as one receiver.

My advice to him is if he already has 6 receivers to throw the one marked with a Dishplayer logo out of the higest point he can find. :D

ALways remember to videotape! :)

Bill D
05-10-02, 06:32 PM
I have pre-ordered the 721 from Dish Depot, on their site they now have a picture of the 721, and I noticed it looks like the back panel has a total of 5 coax connectors
2- for satellite feed from dish
1 for a antenna/cable input
1 for regular RF out
What is the last one for?
Is it another RF out, and maybe down the line it will be possible to send a 2nd output (different then the first to another TV)
Maybe we will all find out in a few weeks..

EvanS
05-10-02, 06:38 PM
I can't be sure - but it could easily be an alternate Digital Audio output, in addition to the TOSLink

Richard King
05-10-02, 08:05 PM
Probably for the UHF Remote control antenna input

05-11-02, 01:48 PM
Originally posted by Rking401
Probably for the UHF Remote control antenna input BINGO! We have a winner!

Richard King
05-11-02, 03:03 PM
BINGO! We have a winner!
Wow!!! What have I won? Do I have to give an acceptance speech? :cool:

Bill D
05-14-02, 08:52 PM
Duhh..
Not sure why I forgot about that, I do have one on my 4900..

gjrhine
05-15-02, 07:45 PM
I have two receivers, coax and two SW21. Would I need another coax and switch?

Brian Rector
05-15-02, 08:05 PM
All this hookup talk still gets me confused....lol. Guess you might say I am the type that never does a self install. As I stated in another post, I am thinking of going to a one room install of Dish again (I will not even care about Dish's reconnection charge. Getting back to Dish will be the important thing). Looks like a 721 will be the thing for me.

Jacob S
05-20-02, 01:14 AM
What were they thinking? They need two tv outs because it has two tuners so they can distribute this throughout the house to watch a different channel in a different room, BIG MISTAKE on their part to not have the second tv out. Now I know why they are not charging an additional 4.99 a month, its because they are not having an option to watch a different show in a different room therefore they cant get it to watch a different show.

I wonder when someone will figure out how to rig this machine up to do that, its probably possible but tricky and would take a smart person to do that.

scooper
05-20-02, 04:49 AM
Originally posted by gjrhine
I have two receivers, coax and two SW21. Would I need another coax and switch?

Gary - replace your 2 SW21's with a SW44 or SW64 (hopefully both SW21's are at the same location so you can do this). Then pull an additional coax for each tuner (the 721 would count as 2 tuners). This is presuming that you want at least 1 other box besides the 721.