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Capmeister
01-28-05, 06:46 AM
Since I moved to D*, a friend who has Dish500 wants my old Superdish, but doesn't intend to get locals. Will having the bigger dish do him any good? And would he need my multiswitch too?

Jason Nipp
01-28-05, 07:27 AM
Debatable and somewhat contraversial. As you probably have seen in past posts.
I have a 121 and in my personal opinion (Bigger Dish = more surface area = more reflectivity = better immunity to rain fade = faster recovery from any fade that may occur.) I have lost signal like 2 times with super. My other dishes fade regularly. Now you do need to take the time to peak it to it's absolute max.

Again this is a personal opinion.
Jason

SimpleSimon
01-29-05, 12:03 PM
Yes - opinions DO vary on whether you can get better signal on a StupidDish.

I suspect that if an analysis were done, there would be VERY different results based on whether it's a 121 or a 105.

On a 121SD, the 119 should see a NICE boost, and 110 SOME boost.

On a 105SD, both 110 & 119 are WAY off center - half the dish surface is worthless to them.

As for your other question, some kind of switch is needed because 110 & 119 are two separate LNBs. A DP21 will do it for a single receiver. You can add another DP21 for a second box, but that's it. Any more, or any desire to use the 105/121 LNB, will require a DP34 (the switch that came with the SD) or better (DPP44).

Satpro92
01-30-05, 03:57 AM
I install 105 superdishes everyday and was it not for the locals I would prefer the Dish 500,IMO there is no advantage at all to the Superdish as far signal goes.In fact often you have to sacrifice signal on 119 to peak 105,I think it is a problem with skew angles with the LNBF's as I never do an install that is not perfectly level.

I have never installed a 121 Superdish,so I really dont know about them.

superdish
02-01-05, 03:05 PM
did anyone ever tried to use a dish 500 with KU lnbf to get 121 west? is it even possible? we only looking at a smaller dish

JohnH
02-01-05, 06:20 PM
did anyone ever tried to use a dish 500 with KU lnbf to get 121 west? is it even possible? we only looking at a smaller dish

Well, a 10 meter dish would not get 121w in Portugal. Of course, if that is Portugal Village a DISH 500 is not likely to be able to separate Galaxy 10R from EchoStar 9.

superdish
02-01-05, 07:47 PM
thanks for your reply, pretty funny, now where is portugal village, have you ever been there, isn't it somewhere in the east coast (NJ) :lol: anyway from what I understood it can't be done?

jeffwtux
02-01-05, 08:06 PM
Since I moved to D*, a friend who has Dish500 wants my old Superdish, but doesn't intend to get locals. Will having the bigger dish do him any good? And would he need my multiswitch too?


Where exactly, in Michigan do you live? I assume it's not either in the Detroit or Grand Rapids area. If you do, then your locals aren't coming from the 121 superdish. The superdish should come with the multidish switch. Other than locals, only Internationals currently are on the Superdish. Even then, many are on the side satellites.

Capmeister
02-01-05, 08:13 PM
Where exactly, in Michigan do you live? I assume it's not either in the Detroit or Grand Rapids area. If you do, then your locals aren't coming from the 121 superdish. The superdish should come with the multidish switch. Other than locals, only Internationals currently are on the Superdish. Even then, many are on the side satellites.

I live in the Flint DMA, he lives in Lansing one. But he doesn't get locals, and doesn't want the Dish.

Jacob S
02-02-05, 06:35 PM
When the new 105 satellite goes to 105 then it should get a boost in the signal.