Retailer Chat, March 17, 2005: some info - locals, etc...

[Darkman]

Jim and Ahmed....

Wearing green (for St. Patrick's day ..and for color of money i guess)

Back from Kabo / Cabo or whatever (spelling??) - They went there with some Retailers.. lots of sporting activities, etc was happening there.. pretty interesting.. Jim said: "Thankfully i was on the sidelines"

Team Summit 2005 soon...... Apr 28 - May 1, 2005
Lots will be happening there.....

Locals:
On March 3rd, 2005 - Launched Billings, MT on 148 sat ( 5.99 / month )

As of 3/17/05 - 155 Local markets.....

Upcoming locals ( "coming up - in the next 30 - 60 days" ) :
Casper
Erie
Great Falls
Bismarck
Rapid City
Twin Falls

Programming:

Comcast Sports Net Chicago - available by: March 30, 2005 ( ya.. i was just thinking about this yesturday.. instead of April 1st, be March 30 - Wednsday ;) ) - ch 429 (bulls, blackhawks, white sox and cubs) - available in at60 plus and above ("Retailers were asking about this one all the time", "very exciting" .. "just in time for season opener - Apr 3rd" (baseball) and surprising Bulls and a play-offs" (basketball))

Latino programming news:

TV Azteca - Starting March 31, 2005 - Canal 13 De TV Azteca will be replaced by the Azteca America National Feed (Satellite Exclusive) in all of the DISH Latino Packages at No Additional Cost!

Azteca America will be on Eastern Time (comparing to Canal 13 De TV Azteca)...

To compare the programming and schedules, as well as to get more information about Azteca America, Please Visit:
www.dishnetwork.com/espanol

2 Very Important things (TV Azteca) :

1. Customers in San Francisco, Houston and Yakima will get the LOCAL (not National but Local...) Azteca America Channel - an no Additional Cost on channels 849, 850 or 851

2. Customers in Reno and Omaha, - DISH intended to offer the Local or National Azteca America Feed, but Azteca refused DISH's request. - (so unfortunatly... for now anyhow (i guess) - no Azteca for them)

[Darkman]

Promotions, etc:

Changes to the ClubDISH program
- Free-For-All promotion will no longer be eligible with ClubDISH (effective April 1st, 2005)
- Maximum # of referrals per year - a) Referral limit is now 5 per Calendar year (from 12 per calendar year), b) Gift Card order limit is now 14 per calendar year

(-Most participating customers refer less then 3 customers per year)

[Darkman]

Wing DISH Local Markets (148.. etc)

New Customers: (effective March 23, 2005) :

-Install 2 antennas for 3 orbital locations
-Eligible activations receive $50 2nd Antenna Discount
-No Claim form or customer agreement required (to get above discount) - Effective 03/23/2005

Switch Reembersment program for Existing Customers (Wing Local Markets) :

-Use the Wing Dish Local Market Offer for existing customers....

- Switch Payment of (sw21 and 34 switches i guess) :
-$19 for 1 receiver
-$38 - for 2 receivers
-$49 - for 3 or 4 receivers...

[Darkman]

New promotion - available March 18 - May 31, 2005 - AT180 for AT60 PRICE OFFER:

Sign up for America's TOP 180 for the cost of TOP 60 package at $31.99/mo for 3 Months...

[Darkman]

Difference between 522 abd 625 - 625 larger HD....

....
DISH 811 - P285 S/W:
- Slow roll out starting today
- QAM support for MDU applications
- Improved compatibility for Dolby sound systems using optical digital audio out
- Additional improvements galore! (EPG search, Increased Favorite list capacity, impoved caller id pop-up on screen, impoved guide, improved system info with local deal info.. etc etc etc.. (can't keep up)...

Turn off those receivers to get it ;)

[Darkman]

DISH has some BUG STRIPs now (for those wasps and bugs that like SuperDISH's LNBs)

- Six 1" x 4" strips
- Recomend 3 per install
- Good up to 3 years
(for Retailers.. 360 packets per the box)
(Read instruction on the box!) .. and wash your hands after :)

Some prices:
DISH Player-DVR 625 New - MSRP - $349 (receiver only) - available 1st week of April

DISH Player-DVR 942 - MSRP - $699 (receiver only)

322s abd 522s - available for purchase immidiately now (for cash and carry, not just lease) - 322 - MSRP - $149, 522 - MSRP - $349

[Darkman]

DISH Pro Plus Twin:

Dish Pro Plus Twin - Old Price - $73, New Price - $32
DPP Separator - Old price - $6, New price - $3.50

[larrystotler]

Promotions, etc:

Changes to the ClubDISH program
- Free-For-All promotion will no longer be eligible with ClubDISH (effective April 1st, 2005)
- Maximum # of referrals per year - a) Referral limit is now 5 per Calendar year (from 12 per calendar year), b) Gift Card order limit is now 14 per calendar year

(-Most participating customers refer less then 3 customers per year)

Hurts, but makes sense considering their base package is $32/month, so this gets them at least $7 in revenue from a sub.

[larrystotler]

DISH Pro Plus Twin:

Dish Pro Plus Twin - Old Price - $73, New Price - $32
DPP Separator - Old price - $6, New price - $3.50

Excellent news. They are finally starting to make my job a little easier. We can get a 10 pack of dishes for $200($20 each), whereby a syste costs $50. So, for only $5.50 more, I can now do a DP+Twin on a single dual tuner job and save some $$ on my wire!

[cdru]

Some prices:
DISH Player-DVR 625 New - MSRP - $349 (receiver only) - available 1st week of April
...
522 - MSRP - $349Hmm...which one to get...which one to get...

[Darkman]

Next Customer Chat (Charlie Chat) - Monday, April 11, 2005 - 9 P.M. ET - ch 101

Next Retailer Chat - Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 12 NOON ET

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...that's all she wrote

[BobaBird]

I thought wing sat locals had to be available at the same price as those on the main slots, meaning no additional expense to the subscriber. Did SHVERA relax that requirement?

[larrystotler]

I believe he was refering to the retailer economics side, not the customer cost.

[TNGTony]

I thought wing sat locals had to be available at the same price as those on the main slots, meaning no additional expense to the subscriber. Did SHVERA relax that requirement?

BobaBird,

They were referring to the TV Markets that have ALL their channels on the 148 slot. As you know the FCC free second dish rule does not apply to these markets since all the locals from the market are being treated equally.

See ya
Tony

[Chucky]

Some prices:
DISH Player-DVR 625 New - MSRP - $349 (receiver only) - available 1st week of April

DISH Player-DVR 942 - MSRP - $699 (receiver only)

322s abd 522s - available for purchase immidiately now (for cash and carry, not just lease) - 322 - MSRP - $149, 522 - MSRP - $349

So I can buy a 522 or 625 with cash now?

[BFG]

522 yes, you have been able to for some time...

[jmeluni]

322s abd 522s - available for purchase immidiately now (for cash and carry, not just lease) - 322 - MSRP - $149, 522 - MSRP - $349

Does this mean that if I want to reactivate my Dish account (I'm w/ Direct now), I can purchase a 322 through my local retailer and activate it on a normal account, not a DHA plan? If so, when does this become effective, as I just looked at Dish's site and it still indicates lease only on both the 322 and 522?

[BFG]

it's effictive now. They don't need to update the pages to indicate they can be purchased, why would they do that :)

[jmeluni]

The only reason why I brought up the web site is because it clearly states:

"Lease Only - Not for Sale"

If a person didn't read these forums, they would not know that they do not have to lease in order to activate this receiver. I'm sure it's just a matter of them eventually getting around to updating their site. :)

Is the mirroring fee ($4.99) still waived for purchased 322 always connected to a phone line or is this only done on leased receivers?

[BFG]

I think it's still waived

[hildred]

yes on 04/05/31 top a-180 for 31.99 do that count no fee for the dvr and also the 942 it will be out on april 1 for sale is there any for 921 if so what

[BFG]

que?

[chaddux]

yes on 04/05/31 top a-180 for 31.99 do that count no fee for the dvr and also the 942 it will be out on april 1 for sale is there any for 921 if so what

We prefer only coherent English. Please don't post nonsensical gibberish. Unfortunately, virtually every one of your posts is the same type of nonsensical mess so it's probably a lost cause. :lol:

[Mark Lamutt]

Thanks Darkman!

[BobaBird]

Tony, I do understand that locals are treated equally if they're all on the same dish. Thanks for clarifying that's what the charge is for.

[Anonymous]

Latino programming news:

TV Azteca - Starting March 31, 2005 - Canal 13 De TV Azteca will be replaced by the Azteca America National Feed (Satellite Exclusive) in all of the DISH Latino Packages at No Additional Cost!

Wow! They're going to downgrade my service at no additional cost. Next they will replace FX with a local fox affiliate at No Additional Cost. We want Azteca 7 and Azteca 13 not America. Azteca 7, 13, and America together, that would be good. America instead of 13, not good.

I'm sure they are doing this because it allows them to save money. Mexican advertisers for the most part don't care about US viewership of 13. Azteca America advertisers do care about US viewership. So Azteca can offer America cheaper than 13 because Americas revenue is based on US viewership while 13 is based on Mexican viewership. I hope Dish isn't trying to trick viewers into thinking America is an improvement over 13 because it is not. Oh well, when 13 goes I can switch to Cable or DirecTV because Dish will have lost an exclusive offer and replaced it with something that isn't quite as good.

[Darkman]

There is something little to add to TV Azteca/DISH business:
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TV Azteca in deal with EchoStar
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story.asp?guid=%7B4B85727F%2D92E7%2D4DB9%2D96BB%2D EDA2A5C6857F%7D&dist=rss&siteid=mktw (Source...)

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Copyright BS thingy (j/k)
:D

[rabiddbstalk]

The Twin Falls, ID locals just popped up on the 148.
Channel SID - Network
8801 - ABC KSAW
8802 - CBS KMVT
8803 - NBC KTFT
8804 - FOX KXTF
8807 - PBS KIPT

[Darkman]

Huh?
Those channels were already uplinked previuosly,
That's indicated also at TNGTony's chart:
http://ekb.dbstalk.com/dishlist.htm

[chaddux]

The Twin Falls, ID locals just popped up on the 148.
Channel SID - Network
8801 - ABC KSAW
8802 - CBS KMVT
8803 - NBC KTFT
8804 - FOX KXTF
8807 - PBS KIPT

They were uplinked more than a month ago. The uplinking was announced, coincidently, more than a month ago. :lol:

[rabiddbstalk]

Being a resident in this DMA, I've been scanning the 148 every few days to find them. They aren't listed on Lyngsat.com even now and have not been online until this weekend. Dish announced they would be available by the 31st so they should launch them with in a week.

[joyabird]

Darkman, where can I buy those bug strips you mentioned? If they work maybe I won't have to stand on the roof and take everything apart again this year. It's a constant battle between the wasps and me every summer.

[Darkman]

Ya.. i recall your previous wasp's situation

I don't know....
Logical answer(s) - would be to try and call DISH Network and ask them on where or how.. etc...
(and if they ll tell you, - it's for Retailers only.. - then next step would be calling some of your reputable local Retailers and make some enquires about it that way)

Of course, maybe can bypass calling DISH Network, and call some of 'em "reputable local Retailers" to start with... (and if those Retailers don't know.. maybe to ask those Retailers phone DISH Network and ask about Bug Strips, and then consider maybe to carry some in their inventory ;)

[thesaint]

My install is on Sat.....any advice/warnings for a newbie to Dish Network?