216 guide not eligible

[jeffg369]

Quote from sticky - Please note, there was a change made in L216 so that once again, if you do not subscribe to your Dish locals, you will not receive OTA guide data.

I live in W Lafayette IN and am not eligible to subscribe to Indianapolis locals (Indy) or distants. Is there any way I can get the guide data for the OTA networks that I receive from Indy using a outside antenna as was available in 215. I lost this like everyone else the other day. We have a local CBS channel and my zip is not eligible for either Indy or distant locals. The Indy stations will not grant a waiver.

[langlin]

Hi Jeff, It is my understanding that if you are not eligible to subscribe to locals then you are eligible for distant and if you are not eligible to subscribe to Indianapolis locals then you don't need their waiver. Do I understand that you are NOT in the INDY DMA?

[jeffg369]

Six months ago I was told by a dish CSR that I don't qualify for either and Dish would request a waiver. The waiver was denied by NBC and CBS as my location was too close to local affiliates. Yesterday I called after I lost the locals (216) the CSR was going to do the temp fix and then stopped when his screen showed I was not eligible. So now I am back in never never land. I was told I am one of the few subscribers in this category. What if any optios do I have. If this post is off topic suggest where to post it. tia

[Rotryrkt]

Six months ago I was told by a dish CSR that I don't qualify for either and Dish would request a waiver. The waiver was denied by NBC and CBS as my location was too close to local affiliates. Yesterday I called after I lost the locals (216) the CSR was going to do the temp fix and then stopped when his screen showed I was not eligible. So now I am back in never never land. I was told I am one of the few subscribers in this category. What if any optios do I have. If this post is off topic suggest where to post it. tia
This should probably be in the General Discussion forum, but I am not a moderator. I assume you are a 921 owner, though.

I live to your South, closer to Indy, and I get Indy locals. I have relatives and friends all around the Lafayette area who get them. The only thing I can think of is it's channel 18 causing the problem, since they are owned by the same people (LIN broadcasting) who owns channel 8 in Indy. I probably live closer to channel 18's transmitter than you do, though, since it is South of Rossville. This makes no sense to me.

Try emailing the executive offices of E*. Sometimes this gets results, when fighting with CSRs fails.

ceo@echostar.com

[langlin]

If your in INDY DMA you're eligible for LIL from Dish, if not then you are eligible for distant, has to be one or the other.

[lpickup]

If your in INDY DMA you're eligible for LIL from Dish, if not then you are eligible for distant, has to be one or the other.

I think what he's saying is that he's in the Lafayette, IN DMA, and therefore eligible for Lafayette LIL (but not distants, and not Indianapolis), however, he is able to receive Indianapolis locals over his antenna, and would like the data for those locals.

...Lance

[Rotryrkt]

I think what he's saying is that he's in the Lafayette, IN DMA, and therefore eligible for Lafayette LIL (but not distants, and not Indianapolis), however, he is able to receive Indianapolis locals over his antenna, and would like the data for those locals.

...Lance

HUH?:confused:

Lafayette IN has no LIL. There is only one station in Lafayette, WLFI (CBS ch. 18) and it is not uplinked by Dish. Indy is only 60 miles from Lafayette, and everyone I know around Lafayette gets the Indy locals. I think there is an error in Dish's database such that his particular zip code is not allowing him to get Indy locals, when every zip code around him gets it.

[lpickup]

HUH?:confused:

Lafayette IN has no LIL. There is only one station in Lafayette, WLFI (CBS ch. 18) and it is not uplinked by Dish. Indy is only 60 miles from Lafayette, and everyone I know around Lafayette gets the Indy locals...

While what you say may be true, I don't think the issue is with any of those things.

Regardless of how few stations a DMA has, or how close you are to another DMA and able to receive OTA broadcasts from that DMA, or whether or not Dish chooses to offer LIL in that DMA, my understanding of the law is that if you are NOT in a particular DMA (Indy in this case), you can't receive locals from that DMA any more than I sitting in Vermont can receive the Indy channels. Of course SHVERA's significantly viewed clauses will allow some relief here, but I don't think that's the main issue.

Now you say you are further away from Indy and yet part of the Indy DMA. While strange, I guess I can see this is the Lafayette DMA is so small that perhaps it only encompasses Lafayette itself, so that even if you are technically further away, your official DMA is Indy. Nonetheless, there is a Lafayette DMA and apparently Jeff is in it and I think this is his issue.

...Lance

[jergenf]

Lafayette is about 50 miles from Indianapolis is that correct? Is there any other DMA that dish offers local even closer? I believe that Dishnetwork should turn something on so that you can regain your free locals that was lost because of L216. You should fight this because it was their error that cause this.

UPDATE: Lpickup email mark maybe he can help you.