Moving Channels to One Satellite for a DMA

[pinchhitter]

I am in the San Francisco DMA, any idea when they will move all locals onto 110 or 119, and off of 148? (One dish solution).

[James Long]

Sometime before next May when they are required to be on "one dish".

JL

[Paradox-sj]

Sometime before next May when they are required to be on "one dish".

JL

is this verifiable and confirmed?

What will happen to CBSHD West?

[JohnH]

The one dish could be a DiSH1000, though.

[James Long]

is this verifiable and confirmed?

What will happen to CBSHD West?Two good questions ...

Based on the legal situation, a law passed in December 2004 *requires* satellite providers to offer the local stations all on 'one dish'. It does not have to be the same dish as your main channels, so techincally they could move all of your locals to 148 and leave you in a two dish situation - 'one dish' for locals and one dish for everything else. It is highly doubtful they would to that in San Fransisco or any other large population area.

The deadline for getting all of the locals on 'one dish' is May 2006. If E* doesn't comply they will be in violation of federal law. That is a decent confirmation that channels will be moving.

As JohnH noted, the "where to" is up in the air. There is a new satellite (E10) that will launch next year that may add enough spotbeam space to put all your channels on a D500 dish. Or they may move your 148 channels to the new 129 position and give you a D1000 dish (three heads, similar to D*'s 3 head dish).

What will happen to CBSHD West? E* is permitted to provide digital channels from other dishes than your 'locals' dish so they don't have to move it. But I expect E* doesn't want to lose the money so expect it to show up on 129. If not for your local market then for all the others that are moving there.

JL

[derwin0]

What will happen to CBSHD West? E* is permitted to provide digital channels from other dishes than your 'locals' dish so they don't have to move it. But I expect E* doesn't want to lose the money so expect it to show up on 129.
What money? Most people that qualify to get it, also get it for free (free if you already pay for DNS or Locals, which most do)

[Rick_R]

The extra Los Angeles locals already have been added to a spotbeam on 119.

I switched my extra dish from 148 to 61.5 to get VOOM. In the process I lost the extra Los Angeles local channels. Monday 9/5/05 I noticed them again and discovered that they were on a spotbeam on 119.

Rick R

[Mike D-CO5]

Okay how did they look ? I imagine that if they cram all of the extra locals on the spotbeam that the picture quality will suffer.

[James Long]

The extra Los Angeles locals already have been added to a spotbeam on 119.TNGTony had that change noted as of April 21st, 2004.

JL

[Link]

I assume the large markets will probably be the markets where the stations are moved 119/110 first, then smaller markets will require 2 dishes?

[Geronimo]

Well theoretically it would be a zero sum gane. The trick is the spotbeams. Because not all locations have spotbeam satellites the whole thing gets harder.

Remember though that they may put ALL of the locals on a side slot. In other words to get ANY locals you need 61.5 or 148. I am sure that some will be annoyed at that---but it would be complaint.

[JohnH]

There are still 3 Los Angeles Locals on 148. The ones which moved to Spotbeam some time ago moved to an empty Spotbeam and PQ was not affected.

[TNGTony]

TNGTony had that change --LA "extra" locals moving to 119--noted as of April 21st, 2004.

JL

All but three anyway. KVMD-TV 31 (Ind) Twentynine Palms/Palm Springs, KBEH TV 63 (Sp. Ind) Oxnard/Ventura, and KHIZ-TV 64 (Ind) Barstow/San Bernardino) are still only available at 148 right now.

See ya
Tony