Uplink Activity for the Week of 9-7-5 .......

[JohnH]

CSTV is available to some on Channel 152.

Some more Significantly Viewed locals became available.

WLII became available.

WNDS changed callsign to WZMY.

[TNGTony]

There it is...

thanks John.

[BFG]

I wonder when 127 will start showing oxygen program guide info again :)

[TNGTony]

Some more details straight off the Dish web site:

WRTV and WTHR Indianapolis are now available to parts of the Terre Haute TV Market

KTBS and KMSS Shreveport are now available to parts of the Tyler TV Market

KSAT and KENS San Antonio are now available to parts of the Austin TV Market

CSTV is listed as available in AT180 and Everything packs
NFL Network is listed as available in AT120, AT180 and Everything packs.

See ya
Tony

[neljtorres]

:D Finally univision puerto rico.
Thanks John as usually.

[Darkman]

Thanks for the update, John...

[juan ellitinez]

They don't appear to be available anywhere within the city limits of Tyler so it must be other parts of the DMA. It would sure be helpful if there was a list based on zip code that was available to look at. I've tried about 20 different zip codes from my area and none show these channels on DISH's website.On the E* website you can check what locals you qualify for with their local address search tool https://customersupport.dishnetwork.com/customernetqual/prepAddress.do

[Paul Secic]

Thanks for the update, John...
WOW! Charlie threw us 2 bones this month.

[Darkman]

Nice juicy ones... :D

[juan ellitinez]

No, really? :rolleyes: What do you think "I've tried about 20 different zip codes from my area and none show these channels on DISH's website" meant? I was referring to a list that showed which zip codes got which channels instead of manually plugging in each zip code.

It appears DISH finally updated the list online and most of the city of Tyler is in Enhanced 2 (KTBS only).If you do a search..there is a fine document in the sherva area that had a county by county breakdown of significantly viewed stations.. It was a Fcc document

[ehren]

Yeah next they can add UPN 14 in Madison, like 2 years later!

[Link]

Some more details straight off the Dish web site:

WRTV and WTHR Indianapolis are now available to parts of the Terre Haute TV Market

See ya
Tony

I wonder why they would add WTHR, the NBC affiliate and not WTTV WB 4 to the Terre Haute lineup. WTWO is the NBC affiliate in Terre Haute and the market is missing ABC, WB, and UPN. It would have made sense to add WTTV 4, WRTV 6, and WNDY 23.

[James Long]

WRTV and WTHR Indianapolis are now available to parts of the Terre Haute TV MarketThe FCC's significantly viewed list for the Terre Haute DMA
WTHI TV 10 (CBS) Terre Haute, IN
WTWO TV 2 (NBC) Terre Haute, IN
WFXW TV 38 (Fox) Terre Haute, IN
WUSI TV 16 (PBS) Olney, IL
WVUT TV 22 (PBS) Vincennes, IN

Clay County
* WTTV 4 (WB) Bloomington, IN
* WRTV 6 (ABC) Indianapolis, IN
* WISH-TV 8 (CBS) Indianapolis, IN
* WTHR 13 (NBC) Indianapolis, IN

Daviess County
* WTVW 7 (Fox) Evansville, IN
* WTTV 4 (WB) Bloomington, IN

Greene County
* WTVW 7 (Fox) Evansville, IN
* WTTV 4 (WB) Bloomington, IN
* WRTV 6 (ABC) Indianapolis, IN
* WTHR 13 (NBC) Indianapolis, IN

Knox County
* WTVW 7 (Fox) Evansville, IN

Martin County
* WTVW 7 (Fox) Evansville, IN
* WTTV 4 (WB) Bloomington, IN
* WAVE 3 (NBC) Louisville, KY
* WDRB 41 (Fox) Louisville, KY

Parke County
* WTTV 4 (WB) Bloomington, IN
* WRTV 6 (ABC) Indianapolis, IN
* WTHR 13 (NBC) Indianapolis, IN

Sullivan County
* WTTV 4 (WB) Bloomington, IN

Vermillion County
* WTTV 4 (WB) Bloomington, IN
* WRTV 6 (ABC) Indianapolis, IN
* WTHR 13 (NBC) Indianapolis, IN
* WCIA 3 (CBS) Champaign, IL

Vigo County
* WTTV 4 (WB) Bloomington, IN

WTTV would be a good add ... perhaps WTTV wouldn't give permission?

JL

[Link]

Addresses in Vigo County (Terre Haute), Knox County (Vincennes), and Illinois counties qualify for the lineup with WRTV and WTHR according the the Dish address qualifier. I don't understand that county list, Vigo County certainly would get WTTV, WRTV, and WNDY since the market only has CBS, NBC, Fox, and PBS.

[juan ellitinez]

I have that document. Apparently, you have trouble reading. I'm talking about a breakdown by ZIP CODE! The breakdown by county is different than the breakdown by zip code. What is listed as available in a specific county is not necessarily available in the ENTIRE county. A list by zip code would be much more specific. Can you please provide a link as to where these channels would be provided by zipcode? Everything in the fcc database(significantly viewed) goes by county.. Im quite sure no such zipcode list exists

[James Long]

Time out folks ... no amount of yelling will create a list that doesn't exist. What we have to work with is the FCC list.

E* is apparently figuring out the 'right' stations for each address - either by an address to county lookup (which would be handy for placing subscribers in the right DMA) or by creating their own reference list. So far they have not made an easy to read list public. You have to use the address lookups.

JL

[Darkman]

I wonder when 127 will start showing oxygen program guide info again :)
It's reported that it's showing "what you were wondering about" currently AGAIN (.. same as previously in the past) ;)

P.S. .. Otherwise.. it's reported to still be a TaxInfo Card content.. currently Carolina's "fight satellite tax" info..

[James Long]

I am really curious how DISH and DirecTV are deciding which intra-county zip codes get which stations.
...
There has to be another list somewhere with a more detailed breakdown.That is the trouble with SHVERA and "the list" ... there isn't a more detailed breakdown. There are stations that are listed as SV for a city/town or part of a county. But that is "the list". It is up to D* and E* to figure out how to turn "the list" into something they can use to provision customers.

I suspect they are using a zip code to county cross reference of some sort - NOT a complete SV list based by zip code - and hoping that they don't get something wrong.

E* is not infallable ...

JL

[JohnH]

No reason to expect WTTV to be any easier in SV negotiations than they were in Regular local negotitations. :)

[Link]

A friend of mine has Terre Haute locals, the website says they qualify for WRTV and WTHR now. I was at their house this evening and those channels do not come in. We called Dish and they saw where it said those additional locals should be on and resent the signal or something and said the channels should come on in 5-10 minutes. They never came on, so who knows what the deal is.

[JohnH]

May have to wait until the individual receivers are authorized for these channels by a macro in the authorization system.

[Vodad]

Just checked my Terre Haute channels, and do not have them yet either.

[juan ellitinez]

Just checked on my online account. Under add programming, it now says I qualify for Enhanced 2 and gives me the option to add the programming. If I try to add it, I get an Error message. Of course, I've been getting the same error message for two weeks when I try to add programming via the website. DISH, if you're reading this, fix your pathetic website! just write ceo@dishnetwork.com..they will gladly help

[Darkman]

ceo@dishnetwork.com ...they .. you mean ;)

You guys are becoming friends i see..
No more Chaddux vs Darkman..

It's becoming now - Chaddux vs juan ellitinez :)

[chaddux]

just write ceo@dishnetwork.com..they will gladly help

Wrong yet again. I've already done that regarding the website problem. I received no response and the problem was not fixed. Although, that is the first time it hasn't worked for a problem.

[juan ellitinez]

Wrong yet again. I've already done that regarding the website problem. I received no response and the problem was not fixed. Although, that is the first time it hasn't worked for a problem.You have to ask nicely and include your account # and a phone # they can reach you at.. I am not the only one on these boards who has been able to get a problem resolved thru extremely talented csr's

[tsmacro]

According to an e-mail I just got from one of my supervisors to get WRTV & WTHR in your Terre Haute locals package you have to live in Vermillion or Parke Counties in Indiana.

[juan ellitinez]

No really? :rolleyes: I did that. In fact, I was already dealing with someone from the executive offices for another problem. She was entirely unhelpful in correcting my original problem and has just stopped responding.



"Although, that is the first time it hasn't worked for a problem." Obviously, I've done it before and it's worked before so I know the drill. And those aren't CSRs that respond to that email address.Perhaps you would be better off switching to cable or d*

[Stalky14]

Their web site is pretty bad in terms of reliability (same programmers that do the
PVR software? 8^) ). Several times I've tried to pay my bill on it and it tells me that
account-specific functions aren't available. Last week I tried again, and got to the last
confirm screen after putting in my card#, clicked submit and *poof*. Error message.
I figured it didn't go through and called the 800#. The AccountBot told me my balance
was $0, so apparently the transaction DID work. Anyway, that's the last time I use their
crappy web site to electronically pay.

[JohnH]

Well, we just blew right on past 2500 channel mark. Now at 2540. :D

All of the following are available except the 2 TST channels at the end.

8186 WNTV ADDED TO Tp 21 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

8192 WGGS ADDED TO Tp 21 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

8207 KRMT ADDED TO Tp 16 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

8208 KCEC ADDED TO Tp 16 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

8209 KMAS ADDED TO Tp 16 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

8210 KWHD ADDED TO Tp 16 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

8211 KBDI ADDED TO Tp 16 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

8212 KTFD ADDED TO Tp 16 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

8213 KDEN ADDED TO Tp 16 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

8214 KPXC ADDED TO Tp 16 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

8229 KSTS ADDED TO Tp 20 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

8231 KTNC ADDED TO Tp 21 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

8232 KMTP ADDED TO Tp 21 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

8233 KRCB ADDED TO Tp 21 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

8234 KTEH ADDED TO Tp 21 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

8235 KCSM ADDED TO Tp 20 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

8236 KTLN ADDED TO Tp 20 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

8237 KTSF ADDED TO Tp 20 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

8239 KFTY ADDED TO Tp 20 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

8379 KTMD ADDED TO Tp 14 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

8380 KFTH ADDED TO Tp 14 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

8381 KAZH ADDED TO Tp 14 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

8382 KTBU ADDED TO Tp 14 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

8413 KMPX ADDED TO Tp 16 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

8414 KDTN ADDED TO Tp 16 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

8498 WGBO ADDED TO Tp 15 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

8499 WSNS ADDED TO Tp 15 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

8500 WXFT ADDED TO Tp 15 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

8501 WYCC ADDED TO Tp 15 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

8502 WYIN ADDED TO Tp 15 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

8503 WJYS ADDED TO Tp 15 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

8521 WQHS ADDED TO Tp 16 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

8543 KCSG ADDED TO Tp 21 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

8546 KUTH ADDED TO Tp 21 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

8583 KAWE ADDED TO Tp 7 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

8638 KUVS ADDED TO Tp 21 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

8641 KTNC ADDED TO Tp 21 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

8973 KNSO ADDED TO Tp 21 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

8974 KGMC ADDED TO Tp 21 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

8975 KTFF ADDED TO Tp 21 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

9037 KINC ADDED TO Tp 14 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

9102 WKMJ ADDED TO Tp 14 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

9103 WBNA ADDED TO Tp 14 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

9284 WJPR ADDED TO Tp 14 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

9285 WDRL ADDED TO Tp 14 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

9357 KVTN ADDED TO Tp 14 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

9358 KYPX ADDED TO Tp 14 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

9359 KKAP ADDED TO Tp 14 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

9968 TST43 ADDED TO Tp 13 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

9969 TST44 ADDED TO Tp 13 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

[BFG]

what markets are those?

[JohnH]

Check the chart. Channel numbers are the same. Look to be second dish locals.
http://www.dbstalk.com/ekb/dishlist.htm

[JohnH]

These channels which were already at 129w were made available.

8383 KLTJ
8384 KZJL

8520 WEAO

9147 KYNE

9237 KWSD

9262 WTCT

[P Smith]

Well, that unknown PIDs finally defined in PAT/PMT. Will check what's left hidden there.

[TNGTony]

ACKK!!!! It's Thursday for Pete's sake! I though I would have a lazy night tonight. :D

Oh well. I'll update the chart tonight when I get home from work.

See ya
Tony

[Darkman]

Seems like IT never ends, Tony.... :rolleyes:

[James Long]

Seems like IT never ends, Tony.... :rolleyes:I hope it never does.

Some day they are going to have to make 129 public ...

JL

[goaliebob99]

8498 WGBO ADDED TO Tp 15 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

8499 WSNS ADDED TO Tp 15 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

8500 WXFT ADDED TO Tp 15 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

8501 WYCC ADDED TO Tp 15 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

8502 WYIN ADDED TO Tp 15 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

8503 WJYS ADDED TO Tp 15 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w


These are chicago wing slot channels.. on (61.5) one dish solution!!!!!!

[RandallA]

8231 KTNC ADDED TO Tp 21 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

8232 KMTP ADDED TO Tp 21 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

8233 KRCB ADDED TO Tp 21 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

8234 KTEH ADDED TO Tp 21 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

8235 KCSM ADDED TO Tp 20 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

8236 KTLN ADDED TO Tp 20 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

8237 KTSF ADDED TO Tp 20 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

8239 KFTY ADDED TO Tp 20 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w


These are San Francisco, Oakland and San Jose split locals. I'll have to swing the 148 dish to 129 and see if I get them. I really thought they were going to move them to 110 or 119, oh well.

[James Long]

I've created a thread (http://dbstalk.com/showthread.php?p=445531#post445531) to help keep track of what markets are where in relation to the goings on at 129. Hopefully the reference will help.

Remember NOTHING is official at 129 until E* says it is official!

JL

[RandallA]

I've created a thread (http://dbstalk.com/showthread.php?p=445531#post445531) to help keep track of what markets are where in relation to the goings on at 129. Hopefully the reference will help.

Remember NOTHING is official at 129 until E* says it is official!

JL

Thanks that really helps. I would've thought that some big markets locals would stay at 110 and 119 because of what's involved to replace the wing dishes with a Dish1000 in these markets. But nothing is official yet.

[TNGTony]

I've created a thread (http://dbstalk.com/showthread.php?p=445531#post445531) to help keep track of what markets are where in relation to the goings on at 129. Hopefully the reference will help.

Remember NOTHING is official at 129 until E* says it is official!

JL

James,

Thanks to a few e-mails we sorted out a mistake I made and this impacts your great list.

South Bend (7090+) is NOT on 129
Sioux City (7190+) IS on 129.

Sorry for the mistake.

See ya
Tony

[James Long]

James,

Thanks to a few e-mails we sorted out a mistake I made and this impacts your great list.

South Bend (7090+) is NOT on 129
Sioux City (7190+) IS on 129.

Sorry for the mistake.No problem - thanks for the correction.

Guess I get to keep my SD105 active a while longer - SB locals are my locals.

JL

[Link]

According to an e-mail I just got from one of my supervisors to get WRTV & WTHR in your Terre Haute locals package you have to live in Vermillion or Parke Counties in Indiana.

Why would those counties get WRTV and WTHR (an ABC and an additional NBC affiliate) but not WTTV or WISH??? These rules make no sense at all.

[Link]

No reason to expect WTTV to be any easier in SV negotiations than they were in Regular local negotitations. :)

WTTV is a Tribune station now. I don't think it was before with the regular local negotiations the first time around with Dish.

[Vodad]

I am in Vermillion county and I still do not have them as of 2 minutes ago.

When I get home from work I will call E and see what is up with those channels

[David_Levin]

Well, there's Denver.

I'm really surprised to see those large markets (San Francisco, Houston) there. Wonder what they are saving the new 110 spotbeam for?

Wonder if I'll keep the wing just to get CBSHD (like having different time zones available).

So has anyone in these local markets tried swinging a dish over there yet?

[Mike123abc]

Well, there's Denver.

I'm really surprised to see those large markets (San Francisco, Houston) there. Wonder what they are saving the new 110 spotbeam for?


It looks like EX is getting more and more delayed, they probably want to get the markets off the wings, on to 129 to avoid any possible missing of the deadline for single dish locals. Plus it is a lot cheaper for them to just pay for one dish installs instead of 2 in these markets.

When EX goes up they can move the markets to spots and put other channels on 129 and have a lot Dish 1000s up ready to receive them.

[RandallA]

"Plus it is a lot cheaper for them to just pay for one dish installs instead of 2 in these markets."

That's correct but what about existing customers in these markets. They will have to replace a lot of setups with a Dish1000 or swing the wing dish to point at 129. Unless they are planning to mirror the channels on 129 and the wing dishes but that doesn't make any sense since they need the bandwith.

[dishbacker]

Well, there's Denver.

I'm really surprised to see those large markets (San Francisco, Houston) there. Wonder what they are saving the new 110 spotbeam for?

Wonder if I'll keep the wing just to get CBSHD (like having different time zones available).

So has anyone in these local markets tried swinging a dish over there yet?

I'm with David on this one... just waiting for CBSHD to get added to 129 before I swing my dish.

8413 KMPX ADDED TO Tp 16 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w
8414 KDTN ADDED TO Tp 16 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

These are DFW stations, currently on 148.

[Darkman]

I've created a thread (http://dbstalk.com/showthread.php?p=445531#post445531) to help keep track of what markets are where in relation to the goings on at 129. Hopefully the reference will help.

Remember NOTHING is official at 129 until E* says it is official!

JL
Good Job, JL!

[JohnH]

It's 206 KIN warming up at 110w. Currently featuring color bars from Interface Media Group Washingon, DC. It is not available.

[James Long]

It's 206 KIN warming up at 110w. Currently featuring color bars from Interface Media Group Washingon, DC. It is not available.Arrrrgh - no more pirates there ....

Great place for a news channel ...
IMG provides uplink services ... not much of a hint what KIN could be ...

206 would be a better place for Fox News International when launched ...

JL

[James Long]

Brainstorm: "Katrina Information Network"

Possible?

JL

[JohnH]

Possible. It is not in the EIT, yet. I'll plug in the player occasionally to see if any changes.

[juan ellitinez]

Brainstorm: "Katrina Information Network"

Possible?

JL perhaps this http://www.interfacevideo.com/about/faq.asp better link

[JohnH]

A bit off topic, but anyone notice how many channels that Concert at 8 PM EDT is on? Must be more than 20.

[Darkman]

perhaps this http://www.interfacevideo.com/news/view.asp?id=29
2/24/2005

hehe.. i doubt it...

[James Long]

perhaps this http://www.interfacevideo.com/about/faq.asp better linkNot really .. IMG doesn't have it's own channel - other than producing for others the only service that they provide related to owning a channel is uplink.

JL

[juan ellitinez]

Not really .. IMG doesn't have it's own channel - other than producing for others the only service that they provide related to owning a channel is uplink.

JLmaybe a special HD charlie chat??? :D or a channel for his family (k-i-n)

[Darkman]

maybe Polish one again (just to spike Chris Walker) .. another KINO or something (j/k) :D

Or maybe that he got NFL Network and CSTV now - maybe Chris Walker doesn't care as much any longer :D

[JohnH]

Katrina Information Network it is. Not available.

[Darkman]

Yup.. Confirmed!

[James Long]

Katrina Information Network it is. Not available.I expect it will be soon. Wow. I was right!

JL

[Darkman]

I wasn't :D

(re: KINO (Polish)) :)

[juan ellitinez]

:p I wonder how much of a discount Mr C got for being 2 weeks late?

[BFG]

I wonder is the KIN an actually human channel or just an info slide?

[James Long]

I'm expecting humans ...
E* can uplink a slide - no need to retransmit an uplink from DC for a slide.

JL

[P Smith]

It's 206 KIN warming up at 110w. Currently featuring color bars from Interface Media Group Washingon, DC. It is not available.
I see.

[Darkman]

But yesturday - was somewhat different .. was still (no movements) .. picture was different and said that: "Katrina Information Network"

[P Smith]

So DM, did you finally got DVB-S card running ?

[BFG]

lmao P Smith, darkman doesn't need a DVB-S card.

[Darkman]

Not yet P.Smith..... :D

Working too hard.. not nuff time for all tis chit :(

[James Long]

I walked past a display for DirectTV in a store tonight and they were advertising a Katrina Channel. Interesting.

I didn't play with the receiver to see if it would tune.

JL

[JohnH]

I walked past a display for DirectTV in a store tonight and they were advertising a Katrina Channel. Interesting.

I didn't play with the receiver to see if it would tune.

JL

Channel has been up and running for about a week. :D

[James Long]

I did not know that ...

Thanks!

JL

[P Smith]

But Dish's ch 206 still show the color bars.

[Darkman]

Currently just some music (quite Sad.. symphonic sounds like) ... and a black screen .. that KIN (aka. ch 206)

[JohnH]

Look again. :D

[Darkman]

Nah.. I trust you .. - i know.. things change...

Doing something else now.... :)

[Darkman]

Actually - i had a look.. ya.. .. but No Color bars though :D

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