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fluffybear
11-30-05, 12:06 PM
Does anyone know If Channel One going to be offered from a core position or from 95?

SummitAdvantageRetailer
11-30-05, 12:13 PM
Does anyone know If Channel One going to be offered from a core position or from 95?

It's on our 95 (DirecTV) satellite.

fluffybear
11-30-05, 12:20 PM
It's on our 95 (DirecTV) satellite.

I can use a normal 18 inch dish for picking up 95? I guess it also means changing out the multi-switch to one with flexports?

Any idea how soon before DirecTv will offer Channel One to the general public?

SummitAdvantageRetailer
11-30-05, 12:39 PM
No, 95 is a Ku-band satellite so you'll need at least a 30" dish to get it. D* subs get 95 via a 34" elliptical dish. I suppose you can order it now or at the latest by tomorrow which is the official launch date for this channel.

fluffybear
11-30-05, 12:48 PM
No, 95 is a Ku-band satellite so you'll need at least a 30" dish to get it. D* subs get 95 via a 34" elliptical dish. I suppose you can order it now or at the latest by tomorrow which is the official launch date for this channel.

I have an AT9 dish already. In order to get 95 I would be a using a second dish.

Do I still need a 30" dish? I am confused as everything I have been reading kind of indicates I can use a 18 inch dish since I would be going with 2 dishes.

SummitAdvantageRetailer
11-30-05, 01:07 PM
I'd ask that on the D* forum as since we're a retailer, we try to use standardized equipment that D* gives us. I don't know what hobbyists have used to get that signal. :)

fluffybear
11-30-05, 01:21 PM
I'd ask that on the D* forum as since we're a retailer, we try to use standardized equipment that D* gives us. I don't know what hobbyists have used to get that signal. :)

I fully appreciate that but the information actually came from DirecTV's site so that is why I confused.

let me ask just one more question:

I have a zinwell 6x8 with flexports. right now I am cascading the zinwell to 2 terk 5x8's. Can I continue to do that once I add the signal from 95?

maybe you can PM your stores number and I can call and order some equipment!

SummitAdvantageRetailer
11-30-05, 01:38 PM
Are you trying to feed signal to 9-24 D* receivers? I'm not sure if you can cascade that signal as we've never done that before in all honesty.

But regards to the dish size. D* has a DTV36 dish out now that has 95 AND 101 LNB in one. But since your locals are on 119, you'll need two dishes, one for 95 AND 101 and another for 119 which I'd assume from a 3-phase LNB dish. If you can give up your locals, then you'll just need the DTV36 dish. I don't know if the 36 designation is for 36" width or not as we only measured the older Andrews 66E dishes and they were approximately 34" in width.

As for ordering, I'd recommend ordering from locally as these dishes are pretty big and will cost a pretty penny in shipping. The boxes are about 5' long and about 3' wide and weigh about 30 lb. each! See if D* will allow you to upgrade for cheaper as the MSRP on these dishes with the 4x4 switch are about $150.

fluffybear
11-30-05, 02:08 PM
Are you trying to feed signal to 9-24 D* receivers? I'm not sure if you can cascade that signal as we've never done that before in all honesty.


Actually I am feeding 6 DirecTivo receivers on 2 seperate floors.

I take the 4 cables from the dish and feed it to the Zinwell and then use all 8 outputs from the zinwell to feed each of the Terks (4 to each one). I am just not sure if my receivers would see the 95 under this configuration.
I guess I could always swap the zinwell with one of the terks and just run a single line to the flex port. All it would mean is only 1 floor would receive Channel 1.

I appreciate all your help so far. I am running at AT9 (KA/KU 5 LNB dish) so it wouldn't make sense to to go with a dish capable of seeing 95 and 101. I called a couple of other retailers who all confirmed I should be okay with a 18" dish.

SummitAdvantageRetailer
11-30-05, 02:17 PM
Please Do me a favor then. Let me know if you can get 95 on a 18" round dish because then I may be able to use 2 separate 18" dishes on some homes that can't pick up both 95 and 101 in one location.

If you have an AT9 dish for the HD locals, then I'd recommend you get a newer 6x8 high-bandwidth switch as the older Zinwell 6x8 switch won't recognize both the Ku/Ka and 95 Ku signals. It's designed for the 3-phase (101/110/119) and 95 only.

fluffybear
11-30-05, 02:42 PM
Please Do me a favor then. Let me know if you can get 95 on a 18" round dish because then I may be able to use 2 separate 18" dishes on some homes that can't pick up both 95 and 101 in one location.

If you have an AT9 dish for the HD locals, then I'd recommend you get a newer 6x8 high-bandwidth switch as the older Zinwell 6x8 switch won't recognize both the Ku/Ka and 95 Ku signals. It's designed for the 3-phase (101/110/119) and 95 only.

I will let you know once I get things installed how it all goes.

I ordered the WB68 and it was back-ordered (naturally) so I am just waiting for it to arrive. It really is not an issue though as Minneapolis is not one of the first 12 markets.

I just wanted to get the dish installed ASAP as thinking about it doing in January in this part of the country is not a fun idea. Installing it 18 degree weather is not fun but -18 is just that much worse..

SummitAdvantageRetailer
11-30-05, 03:51 PM
Ah, thanks. It's called WB68? I was supposed to receive one of these the other day but I keep forgetting to ask my receiving manager if he got it.

Have you found a source for the Ku-band LNB that'll fit a 18" dish?

fluffybear
11-30-05, 04:01 PM
Ah, thanks. It's called WB68? I was supposed to receive one of these the other day but I keep forgetting to ask my receiving manager if he got it.

Have you found a source for the Ku-band LNB that'll fit a 18" dish?

Just learned my WB68 will be here tomorrow so when they finally decide to turn on Minneapolis, I will be ready!

That should be just a standard Dual LNB. My source told me to just go ahead and order a standard 18" Dish with Dual LNB and that should take care of everything. I would try and get it locally but this use to be a NRTC area and not easy to find DirecTV stuff around this town..

Since UPS has been delivering a little later then normal the past few days I suspect I am not going to have time to complete the install tomorrow but should have an answer for you by the end of the weekend..

SummitAdvantageRetailer
11-30-05, 04:16 PM
Oh, no... You've been mislead. Now to hear that 95 will come in on an 18" dish was new though I didn't think impossible. But a regular dual LNBF? No way. With a regular 18" dish with Dual LNBF, you can only get 101 OR 72.5. You may even get 110 or 119 at a lower signal but definitely not the 05 signal. The 95 signal is not a DBS signal but a medium-powered, Ku-band signal. You need a Ku-band LNBF and a "regular" Dual LNBF will only get you 101 or 72.5.

And I don't know why you'd want 72.5 unless you want locals from distant cities. Plus I'm not sure if 72.5 is SPOTBEAM only or even if it is, if the spot beam will reach your dish or not.

Regardless, one thing I know for sure is that a regular Dual DBS LNBF WILL NOT get the 95 satellite that's at Galaxy 3C.

fluffybear
11-30-05, 04:45 PM
Oh, no... You've been mislead. Now to hear that 95 will come in on an 18" dish was new though I didn't think impossible. But a regular dual LNBF? No way. With a regular 18" dish with Dual LNBF, you can only get 101 OR 72.5. You may even get 110 or 119 at a lower signal but definitely not the 05 signal. The 95 signal is not a DBS signal but a medium-powered, Ku-band signal. You need a Ku-band LNBF and a "regular" Dual LNBF will only get you 101 or 72.5.

And I don't know why you'd want 72.5 unless you want locals from distant cities. Plus I'm not sure if 72.5 is SPOTBEAM only or even if it is, if the spot beam will reach your dish or not.

Regardless, one thing I know for sure is that a regular Dual DBS LNBF WILL NOT get the 95 satellite that's at Galaxy 3C.

That just happens to be the kind of luck I am having today.

I waslooking at the international dish and was wondering if it would be possible to just attach that KU-band LNBF to that same dish?? I just hate the idea of sinking a second pole for another 36" inch dish..

fluffybear
12-01-05, 07:18 AM
Oh, no... You've been mislead. Now to hear that 95 will come in on an 18" dish was new though I didn't think impossible. But a regular dual LNBF? No way.
Regardless, one thing I know for sure is that a regular Dual DBS LNBF WILL NOT get the 95 satellite that's at Galaxy 3C.

Thanks again SAR for the info. It turns out the person who took my order yesterday stated a second 18" dish was necessary in order to get the international channels.

I now have the correct dish on order and should be here sometime after I return from taking the family to see Old guy in the red suit at the Mall of America. I guess the only thing left to decide is if I want to try and sink another pole and keep this at ground level or if I want to mount the dish on the house.

By the way, I see DirecTV is offering a complete Russian Language Package which includes 4 channels (3 video and 1 audio). The wife has been complaining about the awful selection and service Netflix has (especially when it comes to Russian Language DVD's) so hopefully she will enjoy this package..

Darkman
12-02-05, 11:48 AM
without reading other thread:

Exactly which Russian channels does D* offer currently?

Darkman
12-02-05, 11:51 AM
I guess this answers it:
http://dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=48650

:)

Darkman
12-03-05, 08:47 AM
Lyngsat lists them now too:

http://www.lyngsat.com/packages/directvusa95.html