View Full Version : R15 vs Showtime Freeview
01ds650
12-02-05, 09:44 PM
Try this folks
Those who DO NOT subscribe to Showtime go to the Showtime channels. It's a freeview week-end. Try & record a program with your R15!!! Nice huh?
I called Direct & they said the R15 works like that. It will not record it because you DO NOT normally pay for it. WTF! So I reset it & it shows it will record but Direct told me it probably won't work. AND on top of that this R15 is sooo slow that my entire guide after 4 hours show "No info available" This R15 usually does not fill my guide in for about 2+ days! Nice now I can't even use that. I'm trying to be patient but Direct is turning out JUNK! First the D10's, now this.
Direct is turning into a joke.
Wolffpack
12-02-05, 10:37 PM
OMG. Common, "Free view" means "free view", not "free record". WTF are you slackers thinking????
Amazing! Simply a new low on DTV's part.
Any of you R15 defenders care to comment?
Oh, and remember, this is DTV's most advanced DVR.
Opps, sorry, just fell off my chair laughing.
EDIT: To be fair. Can any DTivo user that doesn't get Showtime try to record a show? I do get Showtime to I can't try it, but, we should make sure under a DTivo you can record channels you get on a free weekend before we make fun of the R15. Wait, what did I just say? Maybe I need to check my meds. :eek2: :eek2: :eek2:
Mark Holtz
12-03-05, 12:17 AM
On my HDVR2, yup.
01ds650
12-03-05, 03:23 AM
Yes, my other DVR a Directivo always works.
Wolffpack
12-03-05, 03:36 AM
I guess free "view" means just that.
pentium101
12-03-05, 05:17 AM
Try this folks
Those who DO NOT subscribe to Showtime go to the Showtime channels. It's a freeview week-end. Try & record a program with your R15!!! Nice huh?I've noticed the same problem. :(
When I was using my UTV unit, I could always record programs from (TMC, MAX, HBO, SHO, etc.) whenever there was a free weekend.
OK Wolf, I'll bite. That sucks!! I don't see it as a R15 design flaw though (it's these rose colored glasses) I say it works just as DTV carefully designed it. A stupid decision on their part that won't win any kudos from me.
Did you try a manual recording per chance?
John Duncan Yoyo
12-03-05, 10:07 AM
OMG. Common, "Free view" means "free view", not "free record". WTF are you slackers thinking????
Amazing! Simply a new low on DTV's part.
Any of you R15 defenders care to comment?
Oh, and remember, this is DTV's most advanced DVR.
Opps, sorry, just fell off my chair laughing.
EDIT: To be fair. Can any DTivo user that doesn't get Showtime try to record a show? I do get Showtime to I can't try it, but, we should make sure under a DTivo you can record channels you get on a free weekend before we make fun of the R15. Wait, what did I just say? Maybe I need to check my meds. :eek2: :eek2: :eek2:
I read somewhere else that it also only retains a PPV for 24 hours before erasing it. Has anyone else tested this? The show in question was one of those ultimate fighting things but I wonder if the same is true for a movie?
Thunder7
12-04-05, 11:28 AM
Fun....ah well....likeo thers have said, FREE VIEW not FREE RECORD. My UltimateTV works fine....
Crystal Pepsi Ball
12-04-05, 05:43 PM
I read somewhere else that it also only retains a PPV for 24 hours before erasing it. Has anyone else tested this? The show in question was one of those ultimate fighting things but I wonder if the same is true for a movie?
I ordered Survivor Series from WWE online to have it go to all my receivers. On my R15 after it recorded, it says "Expires 12/31". That is the only PPV that I have recorded on the R15 at this time.
01ds650
12-04-05, 06:33 PM
Does this happen if you hit "keep"
walters
12-05-05, 08:34 AM
To be fair, as I understand it, the R15 doesn't charge you for PPV until you watch it (or at least start watching it), whereas with the DTiVos you have to buy it in order to record it. So you could in theory setup an autorecord find to catch new PPVs somehow and be about as close as it comes to on-demand short of cable.
Ah, but I just re-read the above. If you order it online, you've already paid for it. That would totally suck if it "expired" before you got a chance to watch it.
Clint Lamor
12-05-05, 09:32 AM
Well based on this does it stop people who are paying for it from recording it? I was gone the end of last week and the weekend so I didn't get to mess with the R15 or read the forums.
I recorded off Showtime and yes, I pay for it so it's based on ( I'm assuming) the channels you receive. Not what I'd call a smart marketing move but hey they make way more than I do.
Clint Lamor
12-05-05, 12:43 PM
I recorded off Showtime and yes, I pay for it so it's based on ( I'm assuming) the channels you receive. Not what I'd call a smart marketing move but hey they make way more than I do.
I dunno, guess I just don't see it as a big deal. Guess it would make more sense if people could schedule a show they haven't seen to record then try and hook them. Oh well, looks like we are seeing the future, wonder if they are using the broadcast flags to do it or if it's something special in the DVR.
I don't have a problem with it either. Most of the time (which I do have a problem with) they run big banners during the movie advertising the "free weekend, call blah blah blah to subscribe". I already subscribe, you're messing up my movie!
(Are we not the pickiest?);)
Wolffpack
12-05-05, 02:29 PM
Kanyon71 and ISWIZ, I wouldn't expect you to have a problem with anything DTV does or the R15 doesn't do. :eek2:
But don't try to make, or expect others follow your mantra. :rolleyes:
Kanyon71 and ISWIZ, I wouldn't expect you to have a problem with anything DTV does or the R15 doesn't do. :eek2:
But don't try to make, or expect others follow your mantra. :rolleyes:
And here I thought you'd left the "Darkside" Wolf.:lol:
I only speak from my experience with the R15, all is going well. Would I like to see changes, yep on it and about every other piece of electronics and software I've ever touched. I'm just a bit less vocal and more forgiving about it.
Clint Lamor
12-05-05, 02:56 PM
Kanyon71 and ISWIZ, I wouldn't expect you to have a problem with anything DTV does or the R15 doesn't do. :eek2:
But don't try to make, or expect others follow your mantra. :rolleyes:
Ok so it's ok for Tivo to tell my DVR to delete things when it wants? Oh and if you bothered to actually read what I said I did state it would make more sense to let them record it to hook them on shows and get them to sign up.
Clint Lamor
12-05-05, 02:57 PM
I don't have a problem with it either. Most of the time (which I do have a problem with) they run big banners during the movie advertising the "free weekend, call blah blah blah to subscribe". I already subscribe, you're messing up my movie!
(Are we not the pickiest?);)
Yes the stupid banners really annoy me. I already pay for the channel get rid of the stupid stuff asking me to subscribe.
"Hey, just dump DISH, get DTV and a REAL TIVO. No waiting, no troubles. And then you can also hack your Dtivo and add more space, network it and pull shows via your home network directly to your PC and burn them to DVD. But then again, some day Dish users might be able to do the same. Just keep holding your breath!"
"But don't try to make, or expect others follow your mantra."
I wonder who both the above quotes came from?:confused:
Wolffpack
12-05-05, 06:07 PM
"Hey, just dump DISH, get DTV and a REAL TIVO. No waiting, no troubles. And then you can also hack your Dtivo and add more space, network it and pull shows via your home network directly to your PC and burn them to DVD. But then again, some day Dish users might be able to do the same. Just keep holding your breath!"
"But don't try to make, or expect others follow your mantra."
I wonder who both the above quotes came from?:confused:
Wow ISWIZ, I must really be impressing you or really be bothering you for you to take the time to lookup a quote of mine from 03-11-04. It even took me awhile to find that one. ;)
But in the end, I stand by that recommendation.
"But don't try to make, or expect others follow your mantra.":love1:
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