Uplink Activity for the Week of 12-14-5 .....

[JohnH]

ADDEDs not available.

113 TEST2 ADDED TO Tp 18 on EchoStar 8 at 110w

151 TEST ADDED TO Tp 1 on EchoStar 8 at 110w

400 TENIS ADDED TO Tp 18 on EchoStar 8 at 110w

650 SPT ADDED TO Tp 31 on EchoStar 3 at 61.5w

650 SPT ADDED TO Tp 29 on EchoStar 1 at 148w

7297 WUND ADDED TO Tp 14 on AMC 15 at 105w

7697 WPXL ADDED TO Tp 29 on EchoStar 9 at 121w

7945 KUPT ADDED TO Tp 18 on EchoStar 2 at 148w

8082 WVPY ADDED TO Tp 22 on EchoStar 3 at 61.5w

8309 WATC ADDED TO Tp 31 on EchoStar 3 at 61.5w

8462 WTIU ADDED TO Tp 7s11 on EchoStar 7 at 119w

8561 WCTE ADDED TO Tp 27 on EchoStar 3 at 61.5w

8642 KSPX ADDED TO Tp 6 on EchoStar 2 at 148w

8642 KSPX ADDED TO Tp 5 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

8785 WWDP ADDED TO Tp 31 on EchoStar 3 at 61.5w

8845 WGEN ADDED TO Tp 3s15 on EchoStar 7 at 119w

8870 WPPB ADDED TO Tp 1s15 on EchoStar 7 at 119w

8889 KPOX ADDED TO Tp 1s9 on EchoStar 7 at 119w

9117 KFPX ADDED TO Tp 10s7 on EchoStar 8 at 110w

9475 TORQ, Torque HD REMOVED FROM Tp 9 on Rainbow 1 at 61.5w

9475 TORQ, Torque HD REMOVED FROM Tp 3 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

9486 LAB, Lab HD REMOVED FROM Tp 11 on Rainbow 1 at 61.5w

9486 LAB, Lab HD REMOVED FROM Tp 23 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

9487 CODA, Coda HD REMOVED FROM Tp 11 on Rainbow 1 at 61.5w

9487 CODA, Coda HD REMOVED FROM Tp 23 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

9488 RENEW, Renew HD REMOVED FROM Tp 13 on Rainbow 1 at 61.5w

9488 RENEW, Renew HD REMOVED FROM Tp 24 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

9489 WORLD, World Cinema HD REMOVED FROM Tp 13 on Rainbow 1 at 61.5w

9489 WORLD, World Cinema HD REMOVED FROM Tp 24 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

9492 COSMC, Cosmic HD REMOVED FROM Tp 13 on Rainbow 1 at 61.5w

9492 COSMC, Cosmic HD REMOVED FROM Tp 27 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

9494 SIZZL, Sizzle HD REMOVED FROM Tp 15 on Rainbow 1 at 61.5w

9494 SIZZL, Sizzle HD REMOVED FROM Tp 27 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

9638 CLH ADDED TO Tp 31 on EchoStar 9 at 121w

30200 PPP ADDED TO Tp 20 on EchoStar 7 at 119w

30200 PPP ADDED TO Tp 14 on EchoStar 3 at 61.5w

30200 PPP ADDED TO Tp 21 on EchoStar 8 at 110w

30200 PPP ADDED TO Tp 7 on EchoStar 1 at 148w

30200 PPP ADDED TO Tp 17 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

30200 PPP ADDED TO Tp 23 on EchoStar 9 at 121w

30200 PPP ADDED TO Tp 10 on AMC 15 at 105w


9638 CLH is available.

9760 changed from AFR to TALK.

[chaddux]

8889 KPOX ADDED TO Tp 1s9 on EchoStar 7 at 119w

Hmm. I wonder what that is. According to an FCC query, there is no television station using that call sign. It's immediately before the Oklahoma City locals range and after my locals range. It's definitely not a station in my city and it's placement is rather strange to be an Oklahoma City local channel. Looks like it might be a Pax station but I'm not sure.

[alebowgm]

PPP .... What is this, a dial up connection Charlie is adding, lol :)

[Mikey]

KOPX is a PAX affiliate in OKC.

[chaddux]

KOPX is a PAX affiliate in OKC.

But that's not the call sign. It's uplinked as KPOX, not KOPX. That's why I said it might be a Pax station.

[alebowgm]

and Test stations, what are they uplinking there... hmm

[alebowgm]

But that's not the call sign. It's uplinked as KPOX, not KOPX. That's why I said it might be a Pax station.

must be a typo

[chaddux]

and Test stations, what are they uplinking there... hmm

151 is the old OLN spot. Hmm...

[chaddux]

muts be a typo

LOL. That's just too funny. A typo in a sentence about a typo.

[Mikey]

muts be a typoYep, it muts be a typo. :D

[TonyM]

9117 KFPX ADDED TO Tp 10s7 on EchoStar 8 at 110w


ahhhck!! they've done it again :mad:

all 3 spotbeams that my locals are on now have 13 per TP :nono2:
(my locals are spread across TP2,8,10 on Northern Plains spotbeam)

[alebowgm]

shh, im tired

[JohnH]

The typo must be in the system. Maybe they will do another update to fix it.

[alebowgm]

tonym, have you seen a major change in PQ

[chaddux]

The typo must be in the system. Maybe they will do another update to fix it.

I'm wondering why they placed it on 8889. That's before OKC ABC and they do have 8899 open which would be a more normal placement for a Pax channel.

[juan ellitinez]

Hmm. I wonder what that is. According to an FCC query, there is no television station using that call sign. It's immediately before the Oklahoma City locals range and after my locals range. It's definitely not a station in my city and it's placement is rather strange to be an Oklahoma City local channel. Looks like it might be a Pax station but I'm not sure. here ya go http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-00-2110A1.pdf

[chaddux]

here ya go http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-00-2110A1.pdf

As usual, Juan, you have more problems reading the thread. That station is KOPX. It's uplinked as KPOX. I'm aware that KOPX exists. That has already been established in prior replies. KPOX, as uplinked, does not exist.

It actually looks like the FCC document has a typo in it as well. They have it spelled KPOX in one instance.

[alebowgm]

WATC (Cornerstone-Atlanta)
WWDP (ShopNBC/Indepedent-Boston)
WVPY (PBS-Warren)
KSPX (Pax-Sacramento)

[alebowgm]

Tennis = Tennis Channel (Satelliteguys)

Someone in an IRC chat is reporting that Test2 is showing Fine Living TV.

[alebowgm]

9638 CLH is available.

doesnt show in the EKB. What is the info on it?

[chaddux]

Tennis = Tennis Channel (Satelliteguys)

Someone in an IRC chat is reporting that Test2 is showing Fine Living TV.

A Tennis Channel? Wow, I thought a Golf channel was boring.

[alebowgm]

satguys is also now reporting that SPT is WorldSport, which has La Liga soccer...

[alebowgm]

The Tennis Channel::The World's only 24/7 Tennis TV Network

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Established in 2003 as the ultimate destination for everything tennis, The Tennis Channel — where grit meets glam — is devoted to making everyone a fan. The network champions the game with exclusive, comprehensive tournament coverage that matches the intensity of the sport's competition schedule. The Tennis Channel equally captures the sport's endless stream of star power through captivating original programming and off-court prowess.

Tennis has long been one of the sports world's most storied entities, yet its popularity continues to surge. Drawing in millions of new fans each year, tennis has hosted an array of colorful personalities, from legends John McEnroe, Billie Jean King, Martina Navratilova and Jimmy Connors to new idols Andre Agassi, Andy Roddick, and Serena and Venus Williams. The Tennis Channel taps into the phenomena of these high-octane personalities, threading tennis' ever-evolving place in pop culture with the explosive power of the sport on the court.

With live tournaments, news, one-on-one interviews, game analysis and skills instruction, The Tennis Channel is also constantly on the move, beyond the front lines to give viewers an all-access pass, with inside looks, behind-the-scenes coverage and a perspective this close to the action. And, The Tennis Channel represents more than just tennis, as the network canvasses the tours and trends of all racquet sports, including squash, badminton, racquetball, table tennis and paddle tennis.

Finally, as an advocate and cheerleader for the sport, The Tennis Channel is the catalyst that sparks "Tennis Nation," connecting a network of diverse fans across the country through the sport's players, athleticism, training and competition. In bringing the nation's fans together, The Tennis Channel recognizes that tennis is more than a competition: it is an ever-unfolding story with compelling narratives, personal struggles, heroic journeys and epic rivalries.


http://www.thetennischannel.com

[SummitAdvantageRetailer]

What's CLH? A Public Interest/Info channel?

[James Long]

ADDEDs not available.

113 TEST2 ADDED TO Tp 18 on EchoStar 8 at 110w
151 TEST ADDED TO Tp 1 on EchoStar 8 at 110wOh! between HGTV and E! ? (Nahhh "Fine Living" would fit, if that's being reported.)
151 OLN sounds good, but Charlie pretty much closed that door.400 TENIS ADDED TO Tp 18 on EchoStar 8 at 110wTennis. Easy guess if you read the tag!9475 TORQ, Torque HD REMOVED
9486 LAB, Lab HD REMOVED
9487 CODA, Coda HD REMOVED
9488 RENEW, Renew HD REMOVED
9489 WORLD, World Cinema HD REMOVED
9492 COSMC, Cosmic HD REMOVED
9494 SIZZL, Sizzle HD REMOVEDMinus SEVEN Vooms?9638 CLH ADDED TO Tp 31 on EchoStar 9 at 121w
9638 CLH is available.Business TV?30200 PPP ADDED TO {all}Hmmm. Something like an EPG?9760 changed from AFR to TALK.I wonder if AFR is the nexy to leave SkyAngel ...

If TALK is Salem's TALK format I'll enjoy that.

JL

[chaddux]

What's CLH? A Public Interest/Info channel?

I think it is in the Business TV range. It might be some sort of business channel but Google provided no additional information.

[SummitAdvantageRetailer]

satguys is also now reporting that SPT is WorldSport, which has La Liga soccer...

Where on satguys does it say that SPT is WorldSport? They say that WorldSport remains but I don't see where they say that SPT = WorldSport.

[chaddux]

Where on satguys does it say that SPT is WorldSport? They say that WorldSport remains but I don't see where they say that SPT = WorldSport.

I couldn't find it either.

[James Long]

9670 TALK America's Talk Satellite Network
Exclusive to the Sky Angel satellite system, America’s Talk Satellite Network was developed by Sky Angel in partnership with Salem Communications, which is the parent company of two other Sky Angel radio channels, Solid Gospel Radio and Today's Christian Music. Enjoy an exciting lineup of many of America’s most popular conservative and Christian talk radio personalities on one channel, including Bill Bennett, Mike Gallagher, Al Mohler, Richard Land, Cal Thomas, Janet Parshall, Michael Medved, Dennis Prager, Hugh Hewitt, and many others.
more (http://www.skyangel.com/Programming/Index.asp?IdS=0013E0-7D30560&x=003|001&Reference=&Id=70&t=Radio)

James

[TonyM]

tonym, have you seen a major change in PQ

not a major change but enough to make it blah when watching a hockey game (the Duluth ABC station shows UMD hockey). The pixelation is more now.

[HellasSat]

Here ya go folks:

113- Fine Living
151- OLN (Its Back!)
400- The Tennis Channel :)
650- SPT (Portuguese channel that is on 121)

It looks like the Tennis channel may be added as it has its name in the EPG while the other two only say 'test'?!

[alebowgm]

Where on satguys does it say that SPT is WorldSport? They say that WorldSport remains but I don't see where they say that SPT = WorldSport.
http://www.satelliteguys.us/showpost.php?p=422265&postcount=8

[alebowgm]

Here ya go folks:

113- Fine Living
151- OLN (Its Back!)
400- The Tennis Channel :)
650- SPT (Portuguese channel that is on 121)

It looks like the Tennis channel may be added as it has its name in the EPG while the other two only say 'test'?!

Now is that OLN with or without Hockey... hmm...

[James Long]

Now is that OLN with or without Hockey... hmm...What's hockey?

JL

[alebowgm]

That sport that OLN and Dish had a dispute about... it was nothing big though, because in another thread, one of the CSRs that post here said no one has called about hockey, just Bull Riding... so I guess those who miss their bull riding are going to get their way... that or a Techy at Dish just wants to be able to view the Bull Riding... :)

[SummitAdvantageRetailer]

http://www.satelliteguys.us/showpost.php?p=422265&postcount=8
Is that a joke? You quoted my post on satguys where I was excited to hear that WorldSport made the Voom resizing cut.

[SummitAdvantageRetailer]

Here ya go folks:

113- Fine Living
151- OLN (Its Back!)
400- The Tennis Channel :)
650- SPT (Portuguese channel that is on 121)

It looks like the Tennis channel may be added as it has its name in the EPG while the other two only say 'test'?!

I guess SPT (Portugese channel that plays many soccer games) will be made available to those subs that don't have the SuperDISH121.

[juan ellitinez]

CLH possibly a data network?? http://www.clh.net/zlink.html

[Darkman]

Thanks for the Info John :)

[TNGTony]

Again for those interested, here are the local channels uplinked today:

7297 WUND ADDED TO Tp 14 on AMC 15 at 105w
WUND TV 2 Edenton, NC (PBS-UNCTV) Press Release (http://www.unctv.org/pressroom/institutional/fcc_columbia.html) (Norfolk, VA TV Market)

7697 WPXL ADDED TO Tp 29 on EchoStar 9 at 121w
WPXL TV 49 (Pax/"i") New Orleans, LA

7945 KUPT ADDED TO Tp 18 on EchoStar 2 at 148w
This is a strange one. I already have KUPT-LP listed on channel 7942 (Lubbock, TX) as a UPN station. Did it change affiliation?

8082 WVPY ADDED TO Tp 22 on EchoStar 3 at 61.5w
WVPY TV 42 (PBS-West Virginia Public TV) Front Royal, VA (Washington D.C.)

8309 WATC ADDED TO Tp 31 on EchoStar 3 at 61.5w
WATC TV 57 (FamilyNet) Atlanta, GA

8462 WTIU ADDED TO Tp 7s11 on EchoStar 7 at 119w
WTIU TV 40 (PBS) Bloomington, IN (indianapolis)

8561 WCTE ADDED TO Tp 27 on EchoStar 3 at 61.5w
WCTE TV 22 (PBS) Cookeville, TN (Nashville)

8642 KSPX ADDED TO Tp 6 on EchoStar 2 at 148w
KSPX TV 29 (Pax/"i") Sacramento/Stockton/Modesto, CA

8642 KSPX ADDED TO Tp 5 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w
Look up!

8785 WWDP ADDED TO Tp 31 on EchoStar 3 at 61.5w
WWDP TV 46 (Shop NBC?) Norwell/Boston, MA

8845 WGEN ADDED TO Tp 3s15 on EchoStar 7 at 119w
WGEN TV 8 (Paid Programming?) Key West. FL (Miami)

8870 WPPB ADDED TO Tp 1s15 on EchoStar 7 at 119w
WPPB TV 63 (Edu) Boca Raton, FL (West Palm Beach)

8889 KPOX ADDED TO Tp 1s9 on EchoStar 7 at 119w
Beats the hell out of me. Some are saying this could be the OKC Pax KPXO, but I don't think so, It is in the Tyler market channel range. My guess is this is an alias for a Tyler digital sub-channel. But I will have to look into this when I get home from work late tonight.

9117 KFPX ADDED TO Tp 10s7 on EchoStar 8 at 110w
KFPX TV 39 (Pax/"i") Newton, IA (Des Moines)

See ya
Tony

[alebowgm]

Well then, I guess I was wrong. I just jumped assuming that SPT = Worldsport based on what was said. Didn't even look at the handler name. My bad, wasn't pawying to attention, just jumped to conclusion. '

I believe SPT is Portuguese, as per what James said then.

I am definitly not in the 'zone' right now... this hasn't been a great thread for me... :(

[JohnH]

7942 KUPT-TV 22 Wolfforth, TX is a UPN affiliate.

KUTP-LP/CA 14 Lubbock, TX is an INDY(Jewelry Television).

Which is which?

[JohnH]

768 ABUDA became available. Abu Dhabi TV

[James Long]

9760 is playing the correct Salem Radio content ... the EPG looks right although my 501 still has the old one loaded. I caught the end of "Michael Medved" (EPG correct) when I got home.

JL

[wtguy]

7942 KUPT-TV 22 Wolfforth, TX is a UPN affiliate.

KUTP-LP/CA 14 Lubbock, TX is an INDY(Jewelry Television).

Which is which?

I think the new uplink is probably KXTQ, the Telemundo affiliate, operated by KJTV, the Fox affiliate in Lubbock. They also operate channels 14, 22, 32, and 48 which are the Jewelry affiliate, KUPT (UPN), a local weather station, and another shopping channel, respectively.

Last year when the Lubbock market was first uplinked, E had the Telemundo and a religous station uplinked, neither made it to the package and were eventually taken down. A couple weeks ago the religous station was uplinked again and now this new "KUPT". It is in the same channel slot KXTQ had last year.

btw, Tony, you are right, KUTP-22 is already uplinked and available to subscribers.

I just found a couple days ago that there is now a LP Azteca affiliate on channel 69. I do not know if KJTV operates this one also.

[Darkman]

9638 CLH ADDED TO Tp 31 on EchoStar 9 at 121w
9638 CLH is available.


John, is this one even uplinked now? ...
If so - is it a BTV maybe now?

any chance of VPID APID mention for this one? (do not think it's a hack question.. - just statistical info often mention at Lyngsat, etc)

[chaddux]

8889 KPOX ADDED TO Tp 1s9 on EchoStar 7 at 119w
Beats the hell out of me. Some are saying this could be the OKC Pax KPXO, but I don't think so, It is in the Tyler market channel range. My guess is this is an alias for a Tyler digital sub-channel. But I will have to look into this when I get home from work late tonight.

I doubt it. The only digital subchannel coming soon to Tyler is the one I told you about in the private message, KYTX-DT 18.2 which will be our new UPN affiliate known as UPN 18 that will replace KCEB. It's too much of a coincidence that OKC is the closest channel range and they have a channel that's almost identical, KOPX (not KPXO). The channel ranges aren't necessary a block of 10. You can look all over the local channels and find that DISH encroaches on a local markets "range" so you can't assume it's in the Tyler range. It has to be a simple misspelling.

[Darkman]

"9638 CLH ADDED TO Tp 31 on EchoStar 9 at 121w"

9633 and 9635 only .. - i think are on this TP..

and if NOT .. what gives.. lol :)

[Darkman]

I cross-checked it some other way - and still - No 9638 "CLH" .. so i give up :(
:)

[TNGTony]

The channel ranges aren't necessary a block of 10. You can look all over the local channels and find that DISH encroaches on a local markets "range" so you can't assume it's in the Tyler range. It has to be a simple misspelling.

You are probably correct, but that would make OKC the first and only market that has a channel range that does NOT begin with ABC (or CBS if no ABC affiliate or NBC if no ABC or CBS affiliate). With the exception of a couple of affiliate swap markets , all channel ranges start with ABC and continue CBS, NBC, Fox. After that the smaller markets go a different direction.

See ya
Tony

[James Long]

The slate is up on 104/9900 ...
Bye Bye BingoTV!

JL

[James Long]

I cross-checked it some other way - and still - No 9638 "CLH" .. so i give up :(
:)Go back a few posts ...CLH possibly a data network?? http://www.clh.net/zlink.htmlI believe juan has it right.

JL

[Chris Walker]

The slate is up on 104/9900 ...
Bye Bye BingoTV!

JL

Good riddance to that low-class garbage

[Chris Walker]

Here ya go folks:

113- Fine Living
151- OLN (Its Back!)
400- The Tennis Channel :)
650- SPT (Portuguese channel that is on 121)

It looks like the Tennis channel may be added as it has its name in the EPG while the other two only say 'test'?!

I'll take OLN back without the hockey, I couldn't care less about the hockey actually

[chaddux]

You are probably correct, but that would make OKC the first and only market that has a channel range that does NOT begin with ABC (or CBS if no ABC affiliate or NBC if no ABC or CBS affiliate). With the exception of a couple of affiliate swap markets , all channel ranges start with ABC and continue CBS, NBC, Fox. After that the smaller markets go a different direction.

See ya
Tony

I know. I said a similar thing earlier (http://www.dbstalk.com/showpost.php?p=487597&postcount=15). Perhaps, they have reserved 8899 for something else and there was just no where else to put it. It's still strange.

[Darkman]

Go back a few posts ...I believe juan has it right.

JL
CLH .. - i believe i cannot trace it cuz do not have access to HD nor to QPSK ...

(and if i understood correctly from Goalie's report at other forum - it could be QPSK one)

[... post from other site removed by suggestion of JohnH who provided an explaination below ...]

JL

[Darkman]

from Tony's list:

CHA CHA 9638 31 121° E*9 Specific Subs Only

Tony.. - it's small boo-boo - it's CLH (talked about in above post(s))

[James Long]

There is a problem with bob's data. It's putting the channel on two different transponders. It's not. Most likely it is just a data feed as juan suggested.

JL

[Darkman]

his (bob's) 121 is 500 off..

he should change somewhere in his set up to 10750 from 11250 ..

(that is what i ment by "thingy is off" i guess) :)

[Darkman]

oh, i see what you mean .. the 2nd entry there.. OK

[JohnH]

I cross-checked it some other way - and still - No 9638 "CLH" .. so i give up :(
:)

It could be Slow-Scan TV, but most likely is just data for now. :)

[JohnH]

There is a problem with bob's data. It's putting the channel on two different transponders. It's not. Most likely it is just a data feed as juan suggested.

JL

The data provided by Bob is as presented in the SDT and yes they do that so the IF is correct without having to do a complete new satellite layout in the receivers.

I think the post lifted from that other site should be removed as a copyright violation. Bob is not allowed to respond here, apparently. Darkman's interpretation is flawed.

Here is data from the SDT. The second transponder listing is a linkage to the EPG(EIT) and not an error. There currently is no EPG listing for this channel. One should not expect one for a data channel.

Channel 9638
On Table_ID: 0x46 (another mux)
Service Name: CLH
Provider Name: CLH
Transport Stream ID: 531 (0x0213) 121.0W 12.661 V 20000 1/2 QPSK

Descriptor: Linkage Descriptor
Transport Stream ID: 521 (0x0209) 121.0W 12.516 V 20000 3/4 QPSK
Original Network ID: 4106 (0x100a)
Service ID: 36861
Linkage Type: Electronic Programme Guide (EPG) service

[TNGTony]

Could CHL be this http://www.clh.net/ ?

This is a weather data service. National distribution via Dish might be in the cards.

See ya
Tony

[JohnH]

Could CHL be this http://www.clh.net/ ?

This is a weather data service. National distribution via Dish might be in the cards.

See ya
Tony

That is a subset of the link posted earlier by juan excluding the typo, of course. :)

[JohnH]

ADDEDs not available.

851 KAZW MOVED FROM Tp 3s3 on EchoStar 7 at 119w
TO Tp 6s1 on EchoStar 8 at 110w

9372 KTNW MOVED FROM Tp 6s1 on EchoStar 8 at 110w
TO Tp 3s3 on EchoStar 7 at 119w

9373 KAZW MOVED FROM Tp 3s3 on EchoStar 7 at 119w
TO Tp 6s1 on EchoStar 8 at 110w

9425 ES2HD ADDED TO Tp 2 on EchoStar 3 at 61.5w

9473 WSPOR MOVED FROM Tp 3 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w
TO Tp 11 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

9475 KNGFU ADDED TO Tp 9 on Rainbow 1 at 61.5w

9475 KNGFU ADDED TO Tp 11 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

9481 MNSTR MOVED FROM Tp 5 on Rainbow 1 at 61.5w
TO Tp 7 on Rainbow 1 at 61.5w

9481 MNSTR MOVED FROM Tp 10 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w
TO Tp 12 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

9483 CBSHD MOVED FROM Tp 2 on EchoStar 3 at 61.5w
TO Tp 17 on Rainbow 1 at 61.5w

9485 KNGFU MOVED FROM Tp 11 on Rainbow 1 at 61.5w
TO Tp 15 on Rainbow 1 at 61.5w

9485 KNGFU MOVED FROM Tp 11 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w
TO Tp 10 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

9486 FAMLY ADDED TO Tp 15 on Rainbow 1 at 61.5w

9486 FAMLY ADDED TO Tp 10 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

9493 GAMEP, Gameplay HD REMOVED FROM Tp 15 on Rainbow 1 at 61.5w

9493 GAMEP, Gameplay HD REMOVED FROM Tp 27 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

[Mikey]

You are probably correct, but that would make OKC the first and only market that has a channel range that does NOT begin with ABC (or CBS if no ABC affiliate or NBC if no ABC or CBS affiliate). With the exception of a couple of affiliate swap markets , all channel ranges start with ABC and continue CBS, NBC, Fox. After that the smaller markets go a different direction.

See ya
TonyIf/when 8889 comes up in the OKC DMA, I'll let you know. It wasn't there last night. And KOPX isn't carried by Dish yet either.

[SummitAdvantageRetailer]

John, are the new Voom and ESPN2 HD channels in MPEG2 or MPEG4?

[JohnH]

Yeah, one of those. :)
May be able to determine that after the work thing.

ESPN2 HD is likely Mpeg2.

Might be a bit early to get a final reading on the Additional VOOM channels.

[alebowgm]

9473 WSPOR MOVED FROM Tp 3 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w
TO Tp 11 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

9486 FAMLY ADDED TO Tp 10 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

9485 KNGFU MOVED FROM Tp 11 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w
TO Tp 10 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

9481 MNSTR MOVED FROM Tp 10 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w
TO Tp 12 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

Is anyone else not getting ANY signal on TP 10,11,12 which are all Conus? I am pulling in 90s on TPs 4,5,17,20 among many others, so I dont think it is on the signal side, especially because it is on the even and odd transponders.

Edit: Yes, I know they are unavailable. I just was looking at signal strength in the snow this morning and was looking through 129 transponders.

Unless they changed the way the new TPs work with HD stations (previously I would still see a signal on the 129 for the HD TPs). Hmm...

[James Long]

The data provided by Bob is as presented in the SDT and yes they do that so the IF is correct without having to do a complete new satellite layout in the receivers.Here is data from the SDT. The second transponder listing is a linkage to the EPG(EIT) and not an error. There currently is no EPG listing for this channel. One should not expect one for a data channel.

Channel 9638
On Table_ID: 0x46 (another mux)
Service Name: CLH
Provider Name: CLH
Transport Stream ID: 531 (0x0213) 121.0W 12.661 V 20000 1/2 QPSK

Descriptor: Linkage Descriptor
Transport Stream ID: 521 (0x0209) 121.0W 12.516 V 20000 3/4 QPSK
Original Network ID: 4106 (0x100a)
Service ID: 36861
Linkage Type: Electronic Programme Guide (EPG) serviceThe CLH network as described on their website seems to be data. Perhaps they are starting something video? Can you see 121° TP31 and see what (if anything) that channel is linked to (audio/video/data)?Could CHL be this http://www.clh.net/ ?

This is a weather data service. National distribution via Dish might be in the cards.That's the one juan suggested and is the one I would bet on at this point.

JL

[dishbacker]

....
9483 CBSHD MOVED FROM Tp 2 on EchoStar 3 at 61.5w
TO Tp 17 on Rainbow 1 at 61.5w
...


Lets get 9484 (CBSHD-W) Moved/Added/Available to 129w please... in MPEG2... Come on Dish.

[JohnH]

User Private data configuration.

[James Long]

ADDEDs not available.

9425 ES2HD ADDED TO Tp 2 on EchoStar 3 at 61.5w

9475 KNGFU ADDED TO Tp 9 on Rainbow 1 at 61.5w
9475 KNGFU ADDED TO Tp 11 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

9486 FAMLY ADDED TO Tp 15 on Rainbow 1 at 61.5w
9486 FAMLY ADDED TO Tp 10 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w

9493 GAMEP, Gameplay HD REMOVED FROM Tp 15 on Rainbow 1 at 61.5w
9493 GAMEP, Gameplay HD REMOVED FROM Tp 27 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129wESPN2 on 61.5/129 - not suprising but annoying ...
It looks like they ae getting closer to figuring out what the 15 Vooms will be!

JL

[James Long]

User Private data configuration.Thanks.

I wonder if it will be a paid Dish Home feature? (Similar to the old weather channel?)
That would explain why it had an EPG line.

JL

[JohnH]

Thanks.

I wonder if it will be a paid Dish Home feature? (Similar to the old weather channel?)
That would explain why it had an EPG line.

JL

Testing for those usually in the 98XXs. This may be a true BTV thingy.

[James Long]

I expect it to be BTV -- but BTV data instead of BTV audio or video.
Isn't there another BTV that is data only?

JL

[langlin]

Hmm. I wonder what that is. According to an FCC query, there is no television station using that call sign. It's immediately before the Oklahoma City locals range and after my locals range. It's definitely not a station in my city and it's placement is rather strange to be an Oklahoma City local channel. Looks like it might be a Pax station but I'm not sure.

seems that KPOX was a "TV station" in a 1983 ABC fantasy sitcom JUST OUR LUCK/ABC/1983-84.

[JohnH]

Looks like 205 FXNWS is in Free Preview mode.

[James Long]

Looks like 205 FXNWS is in Free Preview mode.Still ... It has been that way since 100 went to the mosaic, hasn't it?

JL

[johnbelt28]

Still ... It has been that way since 100 went to the mosaic, hasn't it?

JL
MSNBC and Bloomberg have been available to AT60 but not Fox News

[James Long]

MSNBC and Bloomberg have been available to AT60 but not Fox NewsAHHHH Yes ... ERROR ERROR

Fox News is now on channel 100 in replacement for MSNBC
ESPN replaces ESPN News
Bloomberg is gone (yay!) and CNBC has come

The lineup is now: CNN, FXNWS, TWC, ESPN, CNBC, HGTV

JL

[ebaltz]

That's great! It seems though the natural channels that should be there are FoxNews, CNN, CNBC, MSNBC, Weather, and ESPNews

[JohnH]

BITV and MSNBC went back to normal.

[JohnH]

Me thinks the Mpeg4 threat was/is a serious one.

[JohnH]

We have a name change. :)

OLD=8889,KPOX
NEW=8889,KOPX

[James Long]

Me thinks the Mpeg4 threat was/is a serious one.I'm not sure how to parse that ...

JL

[BoisePaul]

Me thinks the Mpeg4 threat was/is a serious one.

Are you seeing something that makes you say this? Perhaps the new VOOM's or ESPN2HD in MPEG4?

[JohnH]

I'm not sure how to parse that ...

JL

HD subscription packages, perhaps all new channels equal Mpeg4 or something like the Charlie Chat.

[JohnH]

Are you seeing something that makes you say this? Perhaps the new VOOM's or ESPN2HD in MPEG4?

Bingo! Not the content, but the channel types.

[homeskillet]

Last I read online OLN was still in a bidding war with TBS and possibly ESPN for "Thursday Night Football" with the NFL.

[BoisePaul]

Bingo! Not the content, but the channel types.

Nifty. Of course it means that I might have to spend some money sooner rather than later...

[James Long]

Last I read online OLN was still in a bidding war with TBS and possibly ESPN for "Thursday Night Football" with the NFL.Cool ... then Comcast can offer E* and other providers OLN or OLN lite (sans NHL and NFL). :rolleyes:

JL

[Ghostwriter]

No way ABC loses MNF and not come back with something.

[chaddux]

We have a name change. :)

OLD=8889,KPOX
NEW=8889,KOPX

As expected. As Tony said, the OKC market will now be the first and only market where the lowest channel number in that range is not ABC (or CBS, NBC, or FOX if the market doesn't have all of the Big 4). Strange.

[alebowgm]

As expected. As Tony said, the OKC market will now be the first and only market where the lowest channel number in that range is not ABC (or CBS, NBC, or FOX if the market doesn't have all of the Big 4). Strange.

It should be noted that the station isn't live yet and it can still have its channel number changed...

[Stewart Vernon]

No way ABC loses MNF and not come back with something.

Actually, ABC didn't "lose" Monday Night football.

Disney owns both ABC and ESPN. Disney/ESPN lost the bidding war to NBC for the Sunday night games... and then decided to move their Monday Night football game from ABC to ESPN.

For whatever reason, it was a conscious choice by Disney/ABC/ESPN to take the Monday night game off of OTA channel access and put it on ESPN limiting to cable/satellite viewers only. What made that seem like a good idea is your best guess or mine!

[TNGTony]

It should be noted that the station isn't live yet and it can still have its channel number changed...

It could but my guess now is that 8899 is reserved for KTUZ TV 30 Oklahoma City, Ok Telemundo affiliate. That would also follow protocol.

See ya
Tony

[derwin0]

Last I read online OLN was still in a bidding war with TBS and possibly ESPN for "Thursday Night Football" with the NFL.
Interesting, I wonder if TBS won it, if they'd be able to show it on WTBS-17.

[Darkman]

The data provided by Bob is as presented in the SDT and yes they do that so the IF is correct without having to do a complete new satellite layout in the receivers.

I think the post lifted from that other site should be removed as a copyright violation. Bob is not allowed to respond here, apparently. Darkman's interpretation is flawed.

Here is data from the SDT. The second transponder listing is a linkage to the EPG(EIT) and not an error. There currently is no EPG listing for this channel. One should not expect one for a data channel.

Channel 9638
On Table_ID: 0x46 (another mux)
Service Name: CLH
Provider Name: CLH
Transport Stream ID: 531 (0x0213) 121.0W 12.661 V 20000 1/2 QPSK

Descriptor: Linkage Descriptor
Transport Stream ID: 521 (0x0209) 121.0W 12.516 V 20000 3/4 QPSK
Original Network ID: 4106 (0x100a)
Service ID: 36861
Linkage Type: Electronic Programme Guide (EPG) service
Sorry for the flawed interpretation.. ..
I am often just a lamer :)

[AdamGott]

Yeah, one of those. :)
May be able to determine that after the work thing.

ESPN2 HD is likely Mpeg2.

Might be a bit early to get a final reading on the Additional VOOM channels.

I think it is fairly obvious that they are going to be in MPEG2 - they just reduced the bandwidth of the other voom channels for some reason and word on the street is that there are some big announcements coming in early January (Jan 5 I think?).

Add to that the fact that there are no MPEG 4 receivers available or soon to be available according to most and we should hopefully see these in MPEG 2.

[BoisePaul]

Add to that the fact that there are no MPEG 4 receivers available or soon to be available according to most and we should hopefully see these in MPEG 2.


Actually, if you look in the thread that's titled "I got a 411", you'll see that there are indeed MPEG4 capable receivers available and being installed.

[BobMurdoch]

Yeah, but no HD PVRs yet. The vast majority of HD viewers have switched to HD PVRs..... I'm not going to give up PVR functionality for new HD channels.

[BoisePaul]

The vast majority of HD viewers have switched to HD PVRs.....

Really? Don't take this the wrong way, but what statistic backs this claim up? I'm not looking for justification, just information. I'm curious because I've seen far more 811's and 6000's installed than 921's and 942's.

[Stewart Vernon]

Really? Don't take this the wrong way, but what statistic backs this claim up? I'm not looking for justification, just information. I'm curious because I've seen far more 811's and 6000's installed than 921's and 942's.

I agree with your statement that there are more of us with non-DVR HD receivers still than HD-DVRs... but I also second the concept that it would be a mistake for Dish to hang their 921/942 early-adopters out to dry by forcing MPEG4 non-DVRs on them if they wanted to latest and greatest channels.

Seems smart only to start migrating folks to MPEG4 receivers and channels when they can get MPEG4 DVR and non-DVR replacement boxes into the marketplace to meet the demand if everyone that could switch suddenly wanted to do so.

[James Long]

The signs right now are pointing to MPEG2 for the next few months. There are MPEG4 channels uplinked for testing, but the important ones - the ones that will be released to customers - appear to be testing in MPEG2.

JL