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BoisePaul
02-02-06, 05:04 PM
Was looking at my "recent activity" on E*'s website and saw something I never saw before - a lease fee. :eek2: Now, having previously leased my equipment (a single 811), I was accustomed to the idea that the lease fee of the first receiver is included in the package price, or basically didn't exist. So, I went digging for information and found this in the DHA agreement:
Equipment Rental Fee: An equipment rental fee of $6.00 per month (in the case of a model 411, ViP211 or ViP622 DVR receiver) or $5.00 per month (in all other cases) for the first receiver activated is included in the promotional base programming package price.
Fine, so I'm not losing my mind. So why the lease fee I ask? I look further and find this related to DIU:
Why does DISH Network charge a $5 leased receiver fee under the DISH’n It Up promotion?

DISH Network charges this fee for each receiver leased through the Existing Customer DISH’n It Up promotion. This fee helps cover the costs associated with broadcasting programming to you through the additional receiver.
Lovely. Still wondering why when I was a lease customer before, and am still a lease customer now, do I now see this new fee, I decide to call E*. The CSR proceeds to tell me that I'm no longer a DHA customer and that the rules after DIU are different. I no longer qualify for the benefits of DHA that I enjoyed before. What?!?! Okay, now I'm not happy. Sure, I was informed of the lease fee, but nothing had indicated that I'd now be seeing the lease fee on the first receiver (of $6 no less) where none had existed before. This has been an expensive proposition. The $49 upgrade charge I can handle as it was expected. I figured my monthly bill would go up $5 (Had both HDPak and VOOM), but that's not to be. Looks like my total monthly increase is going to be $11, for a net gain of 7 HD channels, and I'm not considering the $2 increase in AT120 that I'd have seen anyhow.

Can you tell I'm not happy, especially after agreeing to 18 months of this? It turns out to be a $247 decision that I didn't realize I made. I'd say that this needs to be made a bit clearer for DHA customers who are upgrading.:mad:

CABill
02-03-06, 11:49 AM
Could you post your Recent Activity prices and dates covered for both Lease fee and HD-some metal? Their partial month prices are always very confusing to me, but I'm looking to see if the HD-Silver (or whatever) is a prorated amount of $59.99 or of $53.99.

BoisePaul
02-03-06, 12:21 PM
These are the changes that showed up in Recent Activity:

02/01 02/01 EQUIPMENT HANDLING FEE 49.00
02/01 02/01 DISH NETWORK HD PACKAGE 02/01 TO 02/28 -9.99
02/01 02/01 DISHHD SILVER W/ LOCALS 02/01 TO 02/28 64.99
02/01 02/01 VOOM ORIGINAL 02/01 TO 02/28 -5.00
02/01 02/01 DIGITAL HOME ADVANTAGE 02/01 TO 02/28 -44.99
02/01 02/01 1 RECEIVER 02/01 TO 02/28 5.01
02/01 02/01 DISH NETWORK HD RECEIVER 0.00

Mikey
02-03-06, 12:43 PM
I wonder what's going on there? I called to upgrade from a 311 to a 211 on 2/1, and my recent activity doesn't show any credit for DHA, and doesn't show a lease fee.

02/01 02/01 AMERICA'S TOP 180 AND 02/01 TO 02/28 -54.99
02/01 02/01 CREDIT CARD PAYMENT -50.00
02/01 02/01 DISHHD GOLD AND MOVIE 02/01 TO 02/28 94.99
02/01 02/01 DISH NETWORK HD RECEIVER 0.00
02/01 02/01 EQUIPMENT HANDLING FEE 49.00
02/01 02/01 DISH NETWORK HD PACKAGE 02/01 TO 02/28 -9.99
02/01 02/01 VOOM ORIGINAL 02/01 TO 02/28 -5.00

BoisePaul
02-03-06, 02:23 PM
I'm not sure. Is this another CSR mistake? I guess we'd need to see further data and then go from there.

juan ellitinez
02-03-06, 02:26 PM
lease fee should REPLACE a mirror fee(additional receiver)

CABill
02-03-06, 02:37 PM
It looks to me like your billing cycle starts on the 1st and you made the change on the 1st day of the cycle. Mine are never that straight forward. The prices look to be for full months. Ignoring the extra penny on the extra receiver fee, it looks like your items match a regular full month price. The DHA $44.99 is mildly confusing though. I assume your previous bill covered 1Feb-28Feb for $42.99. It looks like they credited you back the new price of $44.99 eventhough you'd paid less $2 less. $2 isn't much consolation. It sure looks like
02/01 02/01 1 RECEIVER 02/01 TO 02/28 5.01
is a $5 DIU leased receiver fee and your HD Silver isn't reduced any amount for it.

I can't figure out Mikey's
02/01 02/01 DISHHD GOLD AND MOVIE 02/01 TO 02/28 94.99
unless it is $69.99 Gold, $5 locals, and $20 for two movies. The credit for AT180 and (not visible) must be "locals" since the $54.99 credit matches AT180+locals.

Until more people get bills (or Recent Activity) with ViP receivers and new HD packages, it isn't at all clear what is true. Since they clearly state that they DO charge $5/month for EVERY leased receiver under DIU (http://www.dishnetwork.com/content/faq/search/fees/), I'd hoped that the other posts about reducing the price of the HD Silver package by the lease amount were true. Doesn't look that way.

Mikey
02-03-06, 02:46 PM
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I can't figure out Mikey's
02/01 02/01 DISHHD GOLD AND MOVIE 02/01 TO 02/28 94.99
unless it is $69.99 Gold, $5 locals, and $20 for two movies. The credit for AT180 and (not visible) must be "locals" since the $54.99 credit matches AT180+locals.
...Bingo! HBO, Cinemax, and Locals. He**, I may spring for the extra $10 and go to the Platinum with Locals. :)

BoisePaul
02-03-06, 02:51 PM
lease fee should REPLACE a mirror fee(additional receiver)
Those were my thoughts as well. As I only have 1 receiver, a mirror fee cannot exist.