834 CentroamericaTV...???

[ticoman]

Does anybody know what happened to channel 834 (centroamericatv). It shows that it is not longer available thru DISH Latino.....I wonder if it is going to be available A LA CARTE.....?????

Thanks in adavance for any info

SC:confused:

[chaddux]

Does anybody know what happened to channel 834 (centroamericatv). It shows that it is not longer available thru DISH Latino.....I wonder if it is going to be available A LA CARTE.....?????

Thanks in adavance for any info

SC:confused:

It will not be available a la carte. It will not be available at all on DISH Network. Scott at SatelliteGuys posted an email he received. Click here (http://www.satelliteguys.us/showthread.php?t=60803) to read it.

[Opynion]

I hope they don't replace it with WAPA-TV, this channel also has CNN news EN ESPANOL and you can get that on the original CNN EN ESPANOL channel,
I would prefer
TCM latino america
or america latina, I don't remember now, but I read about it on the TCM web-page, :rolleyes: it's time for E to include this one: TCM in spanish, on Dish Latino.
to be able to watch movies both ways, in english and with the SAP in spanish. :)

[ticoman]

[QUOTE=chaddux]It will not be available a la carte. It will not be available at all on DISH Network. Scott at SatelliteGuys posted an email he received.


Boy...that was a quick reply.....

I am actually from Costa Rica and CentroamericaTv was the main reason I kept my DISH subscription........I think I will drop it now....I am sure Dish will not miss my $100 I gave them every month, for the past 10 years.......:(

Do you guys know if that station is available via C or KU band somewhere...????

Thanks again...

[SummitAdvantageRetailer]

Centroamerica, owned partly by Echostar, has shut down for financial reasons, meaning not available ANYWHERE.

[ticoman]

Centroamerica, owned partly by Echostar, has shut down for financial reasons, meaning not available ANYWHERE.

Thanks for the reply...:)

[Opynion]

CentroamericaTv was the main reason I kept my DISH subscription........

It had very low ratings, that's why they had the financial reasons (I suppose).

for the past 10 years

That channel didn't lasted very long,
and maybe the same can happen to the channels of
Dominicana & Canal 1
I think a channel from Argentina has a better chance of surviving.
I also read about a rumor that a channel from Bolivia could be set up on Dish Net.

[technoguy]

I hope they don't replace it with WAPA-TV

I don't blame you if you don't want WAPA ,I don't watch it either even if they pay me to do so.:lol:

[Opynion]

I used to get very excited everytime a new spanish channel came up on the Dish, not anymore :rolleyes:
>my favorite channel was TV Azteca, the reality show could be seen uncut,
Azteca America sucks on this, they are experts in cutting out on the programming they recieve from TV Azteca. :(
Centroamericatv had very little programming from each central america country.
What I like about
ESPN DEPORTES are billiard/pool games and the Live NFL football game, no need to get the english ESPN to watch the NFL game. :)

[shadowman413]

I hope they don't replace it with WAPA-TV, this channel also has CNN news EN ESPANOL and you can get that on the original CNN EN ESPANOL channel,
I would prefer
TCM latino america
or america latina, I don't remember now, but I read about it on the TCM web-page, :rolleyes: it's time for E to include this one: TCM in spanish, on Dish Latino.
to be able to watch movies both ways, in english and with the SAP in spanish. :)

WAPA America eventually will be available on Dish. The question is when and on which channel will Dish locate it (LIN Television and Echostar are in talks, since Dish can use a channel that brings programming made in Puerto Rico, and the lineup that WAPA a.k.a. "Televicentro De Puerto Rico" would fill a major gap on Dish Latino.

Also to be mentioned, WAPA TV amd WAPA America only carry a few hours of CNN En Español per day (all of it during the overnight hours), which Time Warner has authorized for both WAPA TV in San Juan, and WAPA America (in order to clear Syndex regulations, as they did with their Wrestling show on weekends).

Note: CNN En Español (and CNN) is the source of news from the U.S. and Latin America for WAPA/WAPA America's newscast "Noticentro 4" (translation: Newscenter 4).

By the way, WAPA is a true independent that could also be called "the seventh Superstation."

[shadowman413]

I don't blame you if you don't want WAPA ,I don't watch it either even if they pay me to do so.:lol:

I understand some of the reasons you do not watch it. However, I can point it to one specific show. Can you say "SuperXclusivo"?

I know some of the reasons some Boricuas rather watch Telemundo and Univision's big time productions and lame comedy shows that are not even produced anywhere near the island, than watch locally produced shows on WAPA (which has a major company that is willing to invest more if they ask for it, since WAPA is one of their biggest revenue makers). I bet you don't even watch the few local productions on WKAQ and WLII/WSUR air during the week.

Just have this in mind, you can block WAPA America if you don't want to watch it. There is something called parental controls that may allow you to block the channel if you wish.

[shadowman413]

I used to get very excited everytime a new spanish channel came up on the Dish, not anymore :rolleyes:
>my favorite channel was TV Azteca, the reality show could be seen uncut,
Azteca America sucks on this, they are experts in cutting out on the programming they recieve from TV Azteca. :(
Centroamericatv had very little programming from each central america country.
What I like about
ESPN DEPORTES are billiard/pool games and the Live NFL football game, no need to get the english ESPN to watch the NFL game. :)


TV Azteca could no longer be carried as it was, since it has some syndex programming (and yes, I am talking about Azteca 13), and that was the reason to make the switch to Azteca America. If they cut programming, you should direct the complains to Azteca America itself. Sure, the channel sucks, but your opinion as well as other subscribers can lead to positive changes. Think about that one.

[pdxsam]

It had very low ratings, that's why they had the financial reasons (I suppose).




It was cutting into Charlie's poker money to keep it running.


:D

[Opynion]

It was cutting into Charlie's poker money to keep it running.


:D
Well I hope Charlie keeps on playing, until he does the same to Canal 1 and Dominicana channels, just as he did with
Centroamericatv,
and why not, even the expense he was planning on using for WAPA America, let him lose, I mean, let him play it also. ;)

[technoguy]

I understand some of the reasons you do not watch it. However, I can point it to one specific show. Can you say "SuperXclusivo"?

I know some of the reasons some Boricuas rather watch Telemundo and Univision's big time productions and lame comedy shows that are not even produced anywhere near the island, than watch locally produced shows on WAPA (which has a major company that is willing to invest more if they ask for it, since WAPA is one of their biggest revenue makers). I bet you don't even watch the few local productions on WKAQ and WLII/WSUR air during the week.

Just have this in mind, you can block WAPA America if you don't want to watch it. There is something called parental controls that may allow you to block the channel if you wish.
For your post I can see you're Puertorrican,My reason for not watch Wapa or any local programing here is not for just the program you mentioned is for the poor quality of content of those .I can tell you right away that polls made here tell you that something is very wrong with local productions here in Puerto Rico.I don't know where you got the info about Wapa TV been the biggest revenue maker here but I can tell you Univision and Telemundo have more than half of the cake for that matter.BTW I don't need to blocked WAPA ,I just pass thru.:D

[Opynion]

From what I can read, WAPA America stinks, hear that Charlie, don't waste $ on that channel (we don't want it).

[Fifty Caliber]

From what I can read, WAPA America stinks, hear that Charlie, don't waste $ on that channel (we don't want it).

I guess you'd rather have LOGO, MTV Desi, and MTV Deutsch instead.

[Opynion]

I guess you'd rather have

I haven't read nothing positive of WAPA America, nothing. :(
so why have a channel that has no value :cool:

[Slamminc11]

I guess you'd rather have LOGO, MTV Desi, and MTV Deutsch instead.

I'd take Logo in a heartbeat if they would add it.

[Fifty Caliber]

If MTV Deutsch were offered as part of the German pack, I'd find some way of getting Superdish 121 up and running.

[shadowman413]

From what I can read, WAPA America stinks, hear that Charlie, don't waste $ on that channel (we don't want it).

And who has told you that? It must be either a subscriber of DirecTV, or Comcast, who believes that there should not be a channel from Puerto Rico on either of them. Sure, WAPA America has the smallest studios of the Three major channels in Puerto Rico (without counting the cinema they own next door, in which one of the rooms is actually the biggest TV studio in Puerto Rico), but they are very busy with local productions (which rate as the top produced local shows, compared to Telemundo and Univision's local offerings).

Oh, by the way, WAPA America will add some programming from "tuTV" (WIPR TV 6/WIPM TV 3) to their lineup, as part of a long term commitment between "Televicentro" and "tuTV" (Tu Universo TeleVision is the government operated station which has locally produced educational, and cultural programming, as well as music specials, besides carrying good part of PBS' programming).

[shadowman413]

I haven't read nothing positive of WAPA America, nothing. :(
so why have a channel that has no value :cool:

Link me, and the rest of us to the negative postings of WAPA. If it is from Univision and Telemundo's forums, don't even bother! Those are people who think that WAPA should be an Azteca Affilliate or simply go off the air, because of their hatred to one specific show named "SuperXclusivo." Imagine something positive being posted about Televicentro/WAPA America on those forums...

think about it!

[shadowman413]

For your post I can see you're Puertorrican,My reason for not watch Wapa or any local programing here is not for just the program you mentioned is for the poor quality of content of those .I can tell you right away that polls made here tell you that something is very wrong with local productions here in Puerto Rico.I don't know where you got the info about Wapa TV been the biggest revenue maker here but I can tell you Univision and Telemundo have more than half of the cake for that matter.BTW I don't need to blocked WAPA ,I just pass thru.:D

Si, I am "puertorriqueño" who lives in the states, and I know you get WAPA via your locals as part of the "Must Carry" rules. Also, I had been monitoring the rating polls that Mediafax does, and the problems with local programming are not in WAPA or TuTV (they invest the money wisely in most cases). The problem lays on a Station located in Hato Rey (Telemundo), and a station located in Caguas (Univision) which are very cheap in producing local content. They are headed into becoming what we call in the states "Mainstream Telemundo and Univision affilliates" which the local content would be only local news, and even there they are not doing better than WAPA.

Sure, the big novelas and special events from Univision and Telemundo do better than locally produced shows, but WAPA does not have the overhead of the two in terms of expenses, syndication rights, and overpaying station managers who oppose to invest in better local product, compared to what they currently offer. Did they though "Que Suerte" and "No Te duermas" can compete for share against "Super Xclusivo", "Club Sunshine", or even "Mediodia Puerto Rico"? The answer is No, because the GMs of WKAQ and WLII/WSUR have no intentions of bringing back local content, just because they may had been ordered by their superiors in Miami to de-localize their stations, and become more "Mainstream", or just they refuse to invest in local programming that could be appealing to the average viewer (an aspect where WAPA has the strongest hold).

Also, to clear you up on something, WAPA is one of the biggest revenue makers for their owner (LIN Television Coorporation (http://lintv.com)), which had increased the budget for the station every year since it took over the ownership, and they had believed that they are better off as an independent station focusing on what really works for the audience of the island (and that focus on their local programming). And if you do not believe me on the revenue WAPA generates, you can check their presentations on Adobe Acrobat they have on their investor relations news, and that will prove my point (just check the "Televicentro" (which for LIN is just one station named WAPA) part of the revenue piechart.

Sure, they have syndex programming (which does not air on WAPA America, excluding "Super Estrellas De La Lucha Libre" for which they have exclusive worldwide rights to air), but they've felt they could do better they way they are now, rather than being a "Telefutura" outlet (which would be the final fate of Channel 7 once they can localize it and run it without the 9pm Eastern/Pacific movie block that would conflict with WAPA's super cine package of films, many of them first run on broadcast TV), or even an "Azteca" station that would probably get near zero ratings. WAPA is third overall in ratings with about a 22% share of the total audience (Univision has 31%, and Telemundo has a 25%, based on Mediafax's data from the past two-plus years).

I hope this clears out a few points

[technoguy]

Si, I am "puertorriqueño" who lives in the states, and I know you get WAPA via your locals as part of the "Must Carry" rules. Also, I had been monitoring the rating polls that Mediafax does, and the problems with local programming are not in WAPA or TuTV (they invest the money wisely in most cases). The problem lays on a Station located in Hato Rey (Telemundo), and a station located in Caguas (Univision) which are very cheap in producing local content. They are headed into becoming what we call in the states "Mainstream Telemundo and Univision affilliates" which the local content would be only local news, and even there they are not doing better than WAPA.

Sure, the big novelas and special events from Univision and Telemundo do better than locally produced shows, but WAPA does not have the overhead of the two in terms of expenses, syndication rights, and overpaying station managers who oppose to invest in better local product, compared to what they currently offer. Did they though "Que Suerte" and "No Te duermas" can compete for share against "Super Xclusivo", "Club Sunshine", or even "Mediodia Puerto Rico"? The answer is No, because the GMs of WKAQ and WLII/WSUR have no intentions of bringing back local content, just because they may had been ordered by their superiors in Miami to de-localize their stations, and become more "Mainstream", or just they refuse to invest in local programming that could be appealing to the average viewer (an aspect where WAPA has the strongest hold).

Also, to clear you up on something, WAPA is one of the biggest revenue makers for their owner (LIN Television Coorporation (http://lintv.com)), which had increased the budget for the station every year since it took over the ownership, and they had believed that they are better off as an independent station focusing on what really works for the audience of the island (and that focus on their local programming). And if you do not believe me on the revenue WAPA generates, you can check their presentations on Adobe Acrobat they have on their investor relations news, and that will prove my point (just check the "Televicentro" (which for LIN is just one station named WAPA) part of the revenue piechart.

Sure, they have syndex programming (which does not air on WAPA America, excluding "Super Estrellas De La Lucha Libre" for which they have exclusive worldwide rights to air), but they've felt they could do better they way they are now, rather than being a "Telefutura" outlet (which would be the final fate of Channel 7 once they can localize it and run it without the 9pm Eastern/Pacific movie block that would conflict with WAPA's super cine package of films, many of them first run on broadcast TV), or even an "Azteca" station that would probably get near zero ratings. WAPA is third overall in ratings with about a 22% share of the total audience (Univision has 31%, and Telemundo has a 25%, based on Mediafax's data from the past two-plus years).

I hope this clears out a few points
I think is a matter of taste,If you think a channel running by the State gov like Tu Tv spent OUR Money(Our State taxes)wisely I think you had been out of town very long ,When they are closing productions(The State Radio Station had been shutting down)My point is regarless how homesick you are and I don't blame you:) Most of the people here are watching less locals productions and more cable or Satellite than ever,Myself as a Dishnetwork Satellite Installer I can tell you people are looking more for productions on Latinamerica like Colombia ,Venezuela or Mexico for Quality or just go to most watch ch like USA or CNN for reliable News that the News rooms here just ignore.Regarless what Mediafax polls shows(And you and me know at least they method of how they polls is bogus)people every day refuse to watch locals. And just to let you know UNivision studios are located in Guaynabo City(Convention Center) for about a year an a half.;)

[Opynion]

If WAPA ranks third highest in ratings, in Puerto Rico, that's only natural, since it's a local channel there, but in the mainland United States, very few hispanics would like that channel, in other spanish forums they don't like WAPA either, so why do the rest of the hispanics have to pay for that channel, just for a few folks who do wan't it?. if we had a la carte as an option, I wouldn't even pay for Univision, their Sabado Gigante is just as bad as SuperXclusivo, even the Price is Right gave more money, cars and prices in one day, than Sabado Gigante in a month :lol:
Univision can't even contract Jolette, the most popular and beautiful girl that TV Azteca has on a blacklist, just because she wanted to earn $750,000 dollars a year, maybe if Centroamericatv had contracted her, maybe they would still be in business, most likely they would :rolleyes:

[shadowman413]

I think is a matter of taste,If you think a channel running by the State gov like Tu Tv spent OUR Money(Our State taxes)wisely I think you had been out of town very long ,When they are closing productions(The State Radio Station had been shutting down)My point is regarless how homesick you are and I don't blame you:) Most of the people here are watching less locals productions and more cable or Satellite than ever,Myself as a Dishnetwork Satellite Installer I can tell you people are looking more for productions on Latinamerica like Colombia ,Venezuela or Mexico for Quality or just go to most watch ch like USA or CNN for reliable News that the News rooms here just ignore.Regarless what Mediafax polls shows(And you and me know at least they method of how they polls is bogus)people every day refuse to watch locals. And just to let you know UNivision studios are located in Guaynabo City(Convention Center) for about a year an a half.;)

Am I homesick? not necessarily, but if you got to watch at least the east coast feeds of Univision, Telefutura, and Telemundo, you will see what is coming to the locals in the island. They will become "automated by a sattlelite link" sooner or later.

Quality programming from Mexico? Maybe you're talking about programming independent netoworks like OnceTV, Mexico 22, Mexicanal, Puma TV, and 52MX (MVS), because Televisa and Azteca have not brought any quality product worth watching, besides "La Academia". Their comedy shows are put to shame by Logroño and Arrieta (and a reason why most of them dont air on channels 2 and 11/9). Venezuela, Colombia, and Spain have better produced and mass appealing programming on their main networks, compared to Televisa and Azteca from Mexico.

By the way, thanks for letting me know about WLII moving to Guaynabo (City). I read something about it some time ago, but I wasn't sure.

The only ones who would refuse to watch locals are people that mostly think that most local personalities should be unemployed, and that includes anyone working on tutv, or simply they want locals to make big time productions with a lot of overhead like the major networks do. Since that is not going to happen anytime in the near or far future (LIN can only do so much for WAPA, but they're investing in locally produced two hour films, and music specials) they opt for cable or sattlelite (whether is E* or D*). The complaints about local tv date back to the late 70s. They had gotten their wish on three of the four commercial stations, and many of these are the same people wishing the FCC revokes the license of WAPA just because they believe they can compete (and they beat Telemundo and Univision in some hour spots, whether you use a fair method or the new bogus method that Mediafax uses, which happens to be in line with the current Nielsen system).

[shadowman413]

Alright, here's an update on the complaints about WAPA America, and how are they going to deal with good part of them, starting next week.

1. Informercials: they will be reduced, since they are getting more national sponosors for their programming, and they are adding more programming as part of an agreement with another TV station in Puerto Rico. "Tu Universo Television" (tutv-WIPR TV 6/WIPM TV 3) will have several of their shows (which some of them happen to be co produced with several personalities from Televicentro) airing to give variety, and cultural content to the channel. This will kill the complaints of not airing locally produced programming from other stations in Puerto Rico (you will NOT see any programming from WKAQ or WLII ever, since the ones behing the operations of those two channels want WAPA off the air for reasons mentioned before).

2. New programming besides all of the content provided from Televicentro (see #1 for details)

3. No more Saturday night replay of Friday night's "SuperXClusivo", however this show will remain on the channel, since it's the biggest rated show from Televicentro, and is also the biggest money maker for both Televicentro and WAPA America. (I can hear them complain about this show even more than ever).

4. It's uncertain where the weekend replays of all of the 9pm ET programming will remain (or if they will move them to earlier in the afternoons on Saturdays and Sundays).

5. CNN En Español's feed future on WAPA America is not known, but it could be replaced with informercials (or should I say moving the infomercials for the late hours when TV viewership is normally very low).

6. More classics from the vaults of WAPA TV are coming. When and what they will air is in planning stages.

[Opynion]

That's fine, as long as they don't bring that channel to Dish Network; Centroamericatv was better than Wapa or at least it didn't have superxclusivo :lol:

[technoguy]

That's fine, as long as they don't bring that channel to Dish Network; Centroamericatv was better than Wapa or at least it didn't have superxclusivo :lol:
Too Late:lol:
Is uplink but not available to ANY Subs on Ch 829.

[Opynion]

Too Late:lol:
Is uplink but not available to ANY Subs on Ch 829.

:(

Well then,
it deserves good luck,
the same kind of good luck
that Centroamericatv
had just recently. :rolleyes:




:lol:

[shadowman413]

That's fine, as long as they don't bring that channel to Dish Network; Centroamericatv was better than Wapa or at least it didn't have superxclusivo :lol:


I read the negatives about WAPA America, and about 60% is about Kobbo Santarosa and "SuperXclusivo". I can bet money that more than half of these people who criticize the two things, are loyal viewers of "El Gordo y La Flaca", "Escandalo TV", and "Cotorreando" LOL.

[Opynion]

are loyal viewers of "El Gordo y La Flaca", "Escandalo TV", and "Cotorreando" LOL.

Those shows only talk of the same topic, the same gossip from the same trashy stars, :(
at least Centroamericatv had news from central america, it's a shame that their own people didn't supported much that channel, maybe because most of the people of central america don't have dish network, most of them might have directivo :lol:
they were with the wrong satellite co. :rolleyes:
but now that Centralamericatv is gone, maybe now they're with the right Satel-company ;)

[shadowman413]

Those shows only talk of the same topic, the same gossip from the same trashy stars, :(
at least Centroamericatv had news from central america, it's a shame that their own people didn't supported much that channel, maybe because most of the people of central america don't have dish network, most of them might have directivo :lol:
they were with the wrong satellite co. :rolleyes:
but now that Centralamericatv is gone, maybe now they're with the right Satel-company ;)

My brother owns a D* unit with Para todos Service, and he does notice all the channels from Central and South America (like Ecuavisa, Telefe, TV Chile, SUR Peru, Sur Mexico, Mexicanal, and a few others).

I believe SUR does carry news from Central and South America (and even some programming from the Dominican Republic), but if that is not enough, you could ask E* to get carriage of Ecuavisa, and maybe a channel from Panama (like Telemetro).

[shadowman413]

Those shows only talk of the same topic, the same gossip from the same trashy stars, :(
at least Centroamericatv had news from central america, it's a shame that their own people didn't supported much that channel, maybe because most of the people of central america don't have dish network, most of them might have directivo :lol:
they were with the wrong satellite co. :rolleyes:
but now that Centralamericatv is gone, maybe now they're with the right Satel-company ;)

Not to mention that those shows are often far away from the truth compared to "SuperXclusivo".

The problem with Centroamerica TV was the lack of commercials, compared to the lack of viewership. You need to sell some commercial spots to support carrying programing from several channels from Central America, plus they did not bother in offering this channel to the cable operators (i.e. Comcast, TW Cable, COX, Cablevision) which could had helped the channel survive with carriage fees per subscriber. Maybe someone (maybe the guys from SUR) will attempt to create a channel like this in the near future.

[shadowman413]

:(

Well then,
it deserves good luck,
the same kind of good luck
that Centroamericatv
had just recently. :rolleyes:




:lol:

Unfortunately, they do have a backbone that is willing to support it, invest in it, and has gained several national advertisers during their programming (more noticeable: COCA COLA). And now since they hadl added programming from tvTV starting this week (thanks to an agreement where personalites from Televicentro to host, co-host, and contribute to several programs from tuTV, and have them broadcasted in the U.S. via WAPA America), WAPA America is not going anywhere.

But if you want to wish that channel that is only available to Cablevision subscribers in NYC so they can get a channel with far more programming content from Puerto Rico, feel free to do so. You'll be doing them a favor if Telemundo Puerto Rico goes off the air LMAO :D

[jvdfw]

Hey if theres any doubt on how many people want WAPA ask Dave( I hope you know what dave means) what the increase % was when they added wapa america, and they became the exclusive sat. provider for them.

[jvdfw]

Taste yes its about taste, if I have to have the golf ch, or tennis ch, well you guy's should suckit up and have WAPA, its not only 3 of us, and before you ask yes I am from PR. There is no need to wish WAPA america good luck, do your research WAPA has the longest running programs in Puerto Rico, besides dude if by any chance you live in PR and you dont like it Jump on a plane and get lost, I live in TX but born in NJ, before you open your mouth to say something ignorant, check the amount of Puerto Ricans in US, and you will find us at the top, nothing against my fellow hispanics, but dont count us out.

[jvdfw]

Hey technoguy I cant get into the link, what is the exact TP for WAPA america?

[technoguy]

Hey technoguy I cant get into the link, what is the exact TP for WAPA america?
Welcome jvdfw:)
Echo 8 Tp 1
Not Available to subs.
:D

[technoguy]

Taste yes its about taste, if I have to have the golf ch, or tennis ch, well you guy's should suckit up and have WAPA, its not only 3 of us, and before you ask yes I am from PR. There is no need to wish WAPA america good luck, do your research WAPA has the longest running programs in Puerto Rico, besides dude if by any chance you live in PR and you dont like it Jump on a plane and get lost, I live in TX but born in NJ, before you open your mouth to say something ignorant, check the amount of Puerto Ricans in US, and you will find us at the top, nothing against my fellow hispanics, but dont count us out.


Don't be harsh on Opynion ,I was the one who made the remarks about taste.
I do understand why you and Shadow feel the need to step foward for WAPA,But guys you know better,This is not something ethnic is about a lot of people fellings about not only this ch but local programing at all here.If more people here in the Island(And I'm 100% Puertorrican)refuse to suport local programing don't blame us,Blame the producers their sponsors and the stations for the lack of quality and the derespect for the audience,Most of them think we'll buy or sponsor everithing they put on prime time like we were on the 70's.No anymore,If they whant to regain audience they need to spend serius money on scripts, productions and treat Us like people with some grade of intelligence.BTW last time I check the census We (PuertoRicans) living in the Continent around 8 mill from around 33 mill of Hipanics,The diferential between some one who came from other part of Laitn America and Us is We born US Citizens,and I believe EVERY ONE Deserves the oprtunity to express themselves.
:rolleyes:

[TNGTony]

Welcome jvdfw:)
Echo 8 Tp 1
Not Available to subs.
:D

Is it there somewhere? Channel 829 went away a few weeks ago.

See ya
Tony

[technoguy]

Is it there somewhere? Channel 829 went away a few weeks ago.

See ya
Tony
Really,?I past that one,Thank You Tony:)

[TNGTony]

I also got some info that WAPA was not on that channel for long. I got several different reports telling me 4 different channels being shown there. The most credible one said it was a channel from Peru, but the first one was WAPA and that is what I left there.

See ya
Tony

[TNGTony]

Just double-checked. Channel 829 went away on 3/28. Sorry. I wanted to see WAPA as well. :)

See ya
Tony

[shadowman413]

Don't be harsh on Opynion ,I was the one who made the remarks about taste.
I do understand why you and Shadow feel the need to step foward for WAPA,But guys you know better,This is not something ethnic is about a lot of people fellings about not only this ch but local programing at all here.If more people here in the Island(And I'm 100% Puertorrican)refuse to suport local programing don't blame us,Blame the producers their sponsors and the stations for the lack of quality and the derespect for the audience,Most of them think we'll buy or sponsor everithing they put on prime time like we were on the 70's.No anymore,If they whant to regain audience they need to spend serius money on scripts, productions and treat Us like people with some grade of intelligence.BTW last time I check the census We (PuertoRicans) living in the Continent around 8 mill from around 33 mill of Hipanics,The diferential between some one who came from other part of Laitn America and Us is We born US Citizens,and I believe EVERY ONE Deserves the oprtunity to express themselves.
:rolleyes:

We are not even being harsh on Opynion. We are trying to let him know that the people who complain about the programming produced on "Televicentro" (and aired also on WAPA America) are a minority, and their complaints are due to one specific show, and the informercials they air to cover some time slots (these are going to be reduced within a few days). They even complaint about whether or not WAPA has syndication rights to air the wrestling shows from WWC (since IWA has not come to terms to air their shows on Telemundo Puerto Rico, due mostly for the monthly rate they want to charge NBC Universal for U.S. rights). Like I tell them, if you got complaints about WAPA America, please leave a comment on wapaamerica.com, and they will respond (unless you are obscene and insulting to them).

I recently left a comment about this to them, and they are aware of their low points (which are pity compared to Telemundo Puerto Rico, which seriously lack of programming), and asked them about the ratio of complaints and compliments for the programming. The complaints were minimal (and mostly about "SuperXclusivo" and its producer Kobbo Santarrosa), while the compliments from subscribers of DirecTV and Comcast subscribers flood their suggestion/comments box on a daily basis. Not to forget that they relay multiple shout outs to several shows on a daily and weekly basis.

[Darkman]

Just double-checked. Channel 829 went away on 3/28. Sorry. I wanted to see WAPA as well. :)

See ya
Tony
Just a reminder - as was reported earlier, content of the Test on ch 829 was NOT WAPA's .. but Peru Magico's ;)

[Opynion]

Just a reminder - as was reported earlier, content of the Test on ch 829 was NOT WAPA's .. but Peru Magico's ;)
If the Peru channel makes it to dish, I hope they don't have Laura in America, I hate that show! :(

[Darkman]

that show i think was there too.. when it was testing...

but as Tony said.. 829 is gone.. for now anyhow..
NOT uplinked any longer...

So who knows... :(

[TNGTony]

Just a reminder - as was reported earlier, content of the Test on ch 829 was NOT WAPA's .. but Peru Magico's ;)

Read the message above the message you quoted Darkman. :)

See ya
Tony

[Darkman]

I don't know..
It's gone anyhow.. :)

Time will show what will be .. if anything at all of course :)

[Darkman]

on Retailer chat they said .. C. AmericaTV channel had to be taken down...

not available.. not economically fisible.. etc

[Opynion]

on Retailer chat they said .. C. AmericaTV channel had to be taken down...

not available.. not economically fisible.. etc

hope they say the same about some other channels, like:
Canal 1
& Dominicana :cool:
and after a while, maybe WAPA America should also go :rolleyes:
there are so many channels in spanish that I just don't like, and the ones I do like, are not perfect either :( but I can live with them anyway :)
I also got fed up with the C0LOMBIA TV channel, they now repeat an old soap that passed in Telemundo years ago, pobre Pablo, I'd say pobre tv-Colombia, maybe they too should get the Centroamericatv treatment ;) :lol:
Man I don't really like Mun2 either, what's wrong with me :lol:

[jvdfw]

I dont know but just because you dont like it it or they dont have to go, that was my point maybee your just a DEE, DEE, DEEE. Just kidding.

[Opynion]

maybee your just a DEE, DEE, DEEE. Just kidding.

Or maybe that's just what you are yourself, whatever that means of course ;)

[shadowman413]

hope they say the same about some other channels, like:
Canal 1
& Dominicana :cool:
and after a while, maybe WAPA America should also go :rolleyes:
there are so many channels in spanish that I just don't like, and the ones I do like, are not perfect either :( but I can live with them anyway :)
I also got fed up with the C0LOMBIA TV channel, they now repeat an old soap that passed in Telemundo years ago, pobre Pablo, I'd say pobre tv-Colombia, maybe they too should get the Centroamericatv treatment ;) :lol:
Man I don't really like Mun2 either, what's wrong with me :lol:

The problem with new channels is that they are directed to a specific (or niche) audience, no matter what their programming is, and the lack of new "general interest" channels, whether is in Spanish or not. You cannot make all the people happy all of the time, but you can make some of the people happy some of the time.

[shadowman413]

and you will not see WAPA go away anytime soon. But if you direct your wishes to a "wanna-be replica channel from Puerto Rico that is operated by Telemundo........" LOL :D

[shadowman413]

If the Peru channel makes it to dish, I hope they don't have Laura in America, I hate that show! :(

Laura is syndicated in the U.S. and Puerto Rico by Telemundo, so there could be a "conflict", although they produce the show, they can air what they produce under the SyndEx rules.

[mindwarp]

Well my opinion, I'm 100% puertorrican, live in PR, so here goes... People in PR want to see satelite because of the low quality of the local programming been made here, and ten the same local programming that is decreasing day by day because of the big interests investing on the local stations to convert them to slave stations of their chain (univision and telemundo) at least Wapa (televicentro de PR) is going strong with the idea of saving our artistic workshop and is putting more local made programming even in their wapa america project. Myself, I can say taht I see almost all of the programming from the superstations and from VH1 classic (I love 80's) but I switch to locals to see Club Sunshine, Por El Casco De San Juan, Show de Reymond Arrieta and Ojeda in Medio Dia PR because they are woth watching (and the local news of course) the rest of the day satelite programming for me please. I don't give a damn for La Comay or for El gordo Y la Flaca but we could have better quality programming here to offer to the states if the owners of telemundo and univision woludn't started running scared when the big networks offered them to buy their stations.

Why we have to air something as stupid as laura (and all the other programs that are a copy of it) or why we wont make a soap (novelas) like we used to do (Teleonce...univision did a few good ones before giving up to the big interests of networks.

The same is happening to radio here in Puerto Rico, since SBS started buying stations here they f*%#ed the airplay big time.

[locolive]

I misss club sunshine...

by the way i havent sub to dish since wapa is not available.

just be able to watch some local PR TV content and news will be good enough for me.

WAPA programming is intended for "boricuas" living in the states... so if you are not part of that target, don't complaint!

[TNGTony]

Mindwarp
I feel your pain. But what is happening now in PR is essentially what happened in the rest of the US 20 years ago. Local content is gone. The thing is that now that the spanish speaking market is so large in the US, groups like NBC (which bought Telemundo) and Univision (nearly bought by CBS) are wanting to "globalize" the spanish speakers in the US. And, unfortunately PR is getting lumped in to the mix. Local programming (other than news) is a thing of the past with the current FCC ownership rules. Now that mega-huge conglomerates can own networks that reach 35% of the country without the need for independent affiliates, they can run roughshod over all the local channels by dirrering costs. Ratings don't have to be as high to still make a buck and local programming is squeezed out to cut costs.

I remember just how much local TV was in PR up to the mid 80s. But after that, it has been a steady decline. Radio in PR has always been pretty bad though :) I still do get a little nostalgic for the WBMJ AM of the late 60s.

I guess the good news is that LIN broadcasting wants to support a PR-centric spanish network.

See ya
Tony

[Opynion]

It's to bad that CBS didn't buy Univision, maybe they'll buy it later, I don't want Televisa to buy it, whoever buys Univision, I hope they fire several people from that channel, there are some old shows that got boring, Univision needs two things, fresh programming, but first, it needs to be sold. :rolleyes:
Centroamericatv needed more variety, instead of having so much news from each country -- in that region, they could have had the news like Lolita Ayala years ago, 'a lot of news in a few words' from each centralamerica country, instead of going into the details for every news.

[mindwarp]

Mindwarp
I feel your pain. But what is happening now in PR is essentially what happened in the rest of the US 20 years ago. Local content is gone. The thing is that now that the spanish speaking market is so large in the US, groups like NBC (which bought Telemundo) and Univision (nearly bought by CBS) are wanting to "globalize" the spanish speakers in the US. And, unfortunately PR is getting lumped in to the mix. Local programming (other than news) is a thing of the past with the current FCC ownership rules. Now that mega-huge conglomerates can own networks that reach 35% of the country without the need for independent affiliates, they can run roughshod over all the local channels by dirrering costs. Ratings don't have to be as high to still make a buck and local programming is squeezed out to cut costs.

I remember just how much local TV was in PR up to the mid 80s. But after that, it has been a steady decline. Radio in PR has always been pretty bad though :) I still do get a little nostalgic for the WBMJ AM of the late 60s.

I guess the good news is that LIN broadcasting wants to support a PR-centric spanish network.

See ya
Tony

Did you lived in Puerto Rico sometime ago???
I totaly agree with you.
WBMJ-AM??? WOA!!! I can tell you about FM and some FM here but that one I dont recognize it :grin:

Right now SBS killed CIMA96.5 that aired 80's and changed the other stations and have left us, the 30 something people without a good station to hear, all you can hear is reggaeton or salsa or ballads in spanish

[TNGTony]

Did you lived in Puerto Rico sometime ago???
I totaly agree with you.
WBMJ-AM??? WOA!!! I can tell you about FM and some FM here but that one I dont recognize it :grin:

Right now SBS killed CIMA96.5 that aired 80's and changed the other stations and have left us, the 30 something people without a good station to hear, all you can hear is reggaeton or salsa or ballads in spanish

Oh yeah, WBMJ was "the" Top 40 English Language radio station to listen to in1968 and 69. When I became "musically aware" I could not understand a word the DJ's were saying nor the words of the music. BTW when I say "the" top 40 station, that means there wasn't any other station on the dial in English. :) I can still hear the "talking guitar" jingle.

See ya
Tony

[technoguy]

Did you lived in Puerto Rico sometime ago???
I totaly agree with you.
WBMJ-AM??? WOA!!! I can tell you about FM and some FM here but that one I dont recognize it :grin:

Right now SBS killed CIMA96.5 that aired 80's and changed the other stations and have left us, the 30 something people without a good station to hear, all you can hear is reggaeton or salsa or ballads in spanish
That's true mindwrap,But that's the price of get it bought by Alarcon Networks.:nono2:

[shadowman413]

I guess the good news is that LIN broadcasting wants to support a PR-centric spanish network.

See ya
Tony

A reason why they made the investment in buying the stations a few years ago, knowing that they had a chance of launching the first "Superstation" with all it's programming in "español" for the United States, and the rest of Latin America, and they are doing an excellent job at it. They believed, and they have succeeded up to this point, which have the local president of operations and the PDs of Telemundo and Univision (WKAQ and WLII/WSUR) wondering why an independent station is giving them a hard time for viewership and ad sales.

[shadowman413]

I misss club sunshine...

by the way i havent sub to dish since wapa is not available.

just be able to watch some local PR TV content and news will be good enough for me.

WAPA programming is intended for "boricuas" living in the states... so if you are not part of that target, don't complaint!

Are you served by Comcast on your neck od the woods in NJ? They have it on their "Cable Latino" package. You could also check D*, or simply wait and see for E* on whether or not they would add it to their "Dish Latino" packages.