View Full Version : 30 second jump.......PLEASE
Oh how I wish for a 30 second jump everytime I watch a recorded show...............
Blurayfan
04-23-06, 10:17 PM
Oh how I wish for a 30 second jump everytime I watch a recorded show...............
On the latest update 10B8 a 30 sec slip has been enabled.
http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=56291
matty8199
04-23-06, 10:27 PM
Maybe I'm just missing something, but I didn't see it posted anywhere - why is everyone calling it a 30 second "slip" instead of "skip"?
UPEngineer
04-23-06, 10:47 PM
Maybe I'm just missing something, but I didn't see it posted anywhere - why is everyone calling it a 30 second "slip" instead of "skip"?
Because instead of "skipping" seconds it fast forwards through 30 seconds of recording in like 3 seconds. It still allows you to see the recording during this time. So pressing the button 3 times "slips" through 90 seconds of recording in 9 seconds.
Wolffpack
04-24-06, 12:54 AM
As I've been using the "slip" more, I'm going back to liking the skip better. Sure I can hit the "slip" button 8 times for a 4 minute commercial, but that still takes about 30 seconds versus 3 with a skip on a Tivo. As well, it's still better than FFx4.
Clint Lamor
04-24-06, 09:31 AM
As I've been using the "slip" more, I'm going back to liking the skip better. Sure I can hit the "slip" button 8 times for a 4 minute commercial, but that still takes about 30 seconds versus 3 with a skip on a Tivo. As well, it's still better than FFx4.
Hmmm wonder if TiVo will take this route? Might make the advertisers like them a little more.
cabanaboy1977
04-24-06, 09:41 AM
Hmmm wonder if TiVo will take this route? Might make the advertisers like them a little more.
Maybe there are, with the D* and Tivo agreement, we could be the testers to see how people respond to the 30-sec slip? Maybe if it goes well here they may use it on new Tivo models?
Clint Lamor
04-24-06, 09:48 AM
Maybe there are, with the D* and Tivo agreement, we could be the testers to see how people respond to the 30-sec slip? Maybe if it goes well here they may use it on new Tivo models?
Honestly it's what I was sort of thinking. The adverisers don't like DVR's and the ability to skip commercials. I was reading a story on the net about a TV that has the ability to stop you from changing channels and doing other things while ad's are on. Thats going WAY to far in my eyes and if it's ever released I would never buy another product from it's manufacturer.
walters
04-24-06, 10:08 AM
Honestly it's what I was sort of thinking. The adverisers don't like DVR's and the ability to skip commercials. I was reading a story on the net about a TV that has the ability to stop you from changing channels and doing other things while ad's are on. Thats going WAY to far in my eyes and if it's ever released I would never buy another product from it's manufacturer.
Philips has apparently apologized for that patent application.
cabanaboy1977
04-24-06, 10:35 AM
I was reading a story on the net about a TV that has the ability to stop you from changing channels and doing other things while ad's are on. Thats going WAY to far in my eyes and if it's ever released I would never buy another product from it's manufacturer.
That's just ridiculous. Next thing you know they will be putting PIP on shows to have commerials play during the show. Forget product placement, they will just place the whole commerical with subtitles in the PIP.
Clint Lamor
04-24-06, 10:54 AM
Philips has apparently apologized for that patent application.
Did they drop it or just say they where sorry?
Clint Lamor
04-24-06, 10:58 AM
That's just ridiculous. Next thing you know they will be putting PIP on shows to have commerials play during the show. Forget product placement, they will just place the whole commerical with subtitles in the PIP.
It makes me so mad that these people keep pushing further and further. I get SO mad now when I go to a movie pay $8.75 for ticket, outrageous price at the concession stand and THEN m forced to wach actual commercials before the movie. I don't mind the previews because they at least give me a clue about movies I may want to see but freakin commercials.
Since this practice has started I go to far less movies then I used to. Not to mention I wouldn't mind some commercials if so many of them weren't so lame.
walters
04-24-06, 11:15 AM
Did they drop it or just say they where sorry?
They danced around a bit but didn't really change anything.
I can sort of see where they are coming from, though. Imagine if you could get high-value, typically pay TV (such as live PPV events, HBO, etc.) for free, but it was advertiser-supported. Then they'd probably want some mechanism to make those ads seen.
Similar situation during the .com boom: I had free DSL for about six months or so (until the company went under ;)). It wasn't superfast, but it was mostly reliable, and all I had to endure for that was a small banner ad at the top of my desktop whenever I was online. Naturally they prevented me from obscuring that area of the desktop with my own windows. Pretty much the same thing, IMO.
cabanaboy1977
04-24-06, 11:32 AM
It makes me so mad that these people keep pushing further and further. I get SO mad now when I go to a movie pay $8.75 for ticket, outrageous price at the concession stand and THEN m forced to wach actual commercials before the movie. I don't mind the previews because they at least give me a clue about movies I may want to see but freakin commercials.
Since this practice has started I go to far less movies then I used to. Not to mention I wouldn't mind some commercials if so many of them weren't so lame.
That's pretty much why mostly buy DVD's if I want to see a movie. Between 2 tickets (4 with the kids) and concessions, it's just better to wait and pay 15-20 for the DVD and watch it at home on the 50" widescreen.
That's just ridiculous. Next thing you know they will be putting PIP on shows to have commerials play during the show. Forget product placement, they will just place the whole commerical with subtitles in the PIP.
What do you mean "next"? Have you not watched the bottom third of your screen on many channels in recent years? They do exactly that for show promos, complete with animation and sound effects.
Data had it right on Star Trek:TNG "The Neutral Zone": TV, in it's current form, will not survive much longer.
cabanaboy1977
04-24-06, 01:01 PM
What do you mean "next"? Have you not watched the bottom third of your screen on many channels in recent years? They do exactly that for show promos, complete with animation and sound effects.
Data had it right on Star Trek:TNG "The Neutral Zone": TV, in it's current form, will not survive much longer.
Your right I forgot about that. It's not long till Homer stops chasing Bart (to let you know Simpons is on next) and Bart starts chasing a butterfinger or a pespi can while your watching 24 or Prison Break.
Clint Lamor
04-24-06, 01:28 PM
If you are going to force me to watch ad's at least make them targeted. :) I don't need many of the things that are on TV. Can't wait till I get the upgrade so I can easily skip over the ad's that are on now, although I have gotten pretty good with FFx3 and skip back 1-2 times.
If you are going to force me to watch ad's at least make them targeted. :)
It's a good point. And make them entertaining, too.
I don't think anyone can argue that, if we want TV shows paid for by sponsers*, then those sponsers deserve to have their ads seen.
Remember the old radio shows?** The sponsers products were woven right into the content of the show--Burns and Allen joked about Maxwell House coffee and Johnsons floor wax all the time. The sponser paid for it, so why not?
And most people don't mind the commericals on the Super Bowl...they're more fun to watch than the game for me!
ApK
* It's a big 'IF'. Maybe commercial TV should die out.
** I'm not that old...I listen to them on XM.
[QUOTE=Clint Lamor]It makes me so mad that these people keep pushing further and further. I get SO mad now when I go to a movie pay $8.75 for ticket, outrageous price at the concession stand and THEN m forced to wach actual commercials before the movie.[QUOTE]
I have a little less of a beef paying $8.75 for a movie that cost $100M to make than paying $20 - $30 for a hardcover book.
cabanaboy1977
04-24-06, 02:20 PM
I don't mine product placement if it's well done. It's when they throw it in there and make it look like an infomerical that I can't stand it.
Clint, I agree I wish they could tagert me (kind of like suggestions) I really don't care about a drug for the eldery or tampons :) Give me computer, or tech ads.
It makes me so mad that these people keep pushing further and further. I get SO mad now when I go to a movie pay $8.75 for ticket, outrageous price at the concession stand and THEN m forced to wach actual commercials before the movie. I don't mind the previews because they at least give me a clue about movies I may want to see but freakin commercials.
Since this practice has started I go to far less movies then I used to. Not to mention I wouldn't mind some commercials if so many of them weren't so lame.
I'm with you here. See my similar rant on TCF a while back.
I have a little less of a beef paying $8.75 for a movie that cost $100M to make than paying $20 - $30 for a hardcover book.
Not with you here. The book is mine forever. I can read it as many times as I want, and where ever I want. Far better return on investment than a single showing of a movie in a noisey theater.
ApK
Not with you here. The book is mine forever. I can read it as many times as I want, and where ever I want. Far better return on investment than a single showing of a movie in a noisey theater.
ApK
Good point. I didn't think of that as I rarely re-read my books.
Good point. I didn't think of that as I rarely re-read my books.
Forgive the momentary off-topic slide, but why would you buy new hardcovers of books you only intend to read once?
For that stuff, we have paperbacks, libraries, used book stores, etc!
ApK
I really don't care about a drug for the eldery or tampons :)
They have drugs for tampons?
cabanaboy1977
04-24-06, 03:31 PM
They have drugs for tampons?
:lol: :lol:
Oh how I wish for a 30 second jump everytime I watch a recorded show...............
I Don't get it? I do not have a clock wise arrow all i have is a arrow pointing right with a line and it brings me to the end of the show. How do I do the 30 second slip? I do have a counter clock wise arrow that brings me back 6 seconds......
Same button, same function, just different graphic.
Some models of the remote have the -->| symbol, some have the clockwise arrow. I think the remote that pack with r15 have one and the remotes that pack with the D11 have the other.
Same button, same function, just different graphic.
Some models of the remote have the -->| symbol, some have the clockwise arrow. I think the remote that pack with r15 have one and the remotes that pack with the D11 have the other.
It is not working....any chance I don't have the update yet? How do I know if I have the update. That button is still taking me to the end of the show.....Please help....
To check what version of software you have, do MENU - SETTINGS - SETUP - INFO & TEST, then scroll down a screen or two and you will see the latest software version that you have.
Most likely, you don't have the newest which gives the 30 second slip, but it is due to go nationwide release this week, so you should have it any day now.
Carl
Clint Lamor
04-25-06, 01:28 AM
[QUOTE=Clint Lamor]It makes me so mad that these people keep pushing further and further. I get SO mad now when I go to a movie pay $8.75 for ticket, outrageous price at the concession stand and THEN m forced to wach actual commercials before the movie.[QUOTE]
I have a little less of a beef paying $8.75 for a movie that cost $100M to make than paying $20 - $30 for a hardcover book.
lol I won't even start on my rant of overpaid people. Movies cost that much because a star HAS to make 25 million to be in the movie. That sort of thing just gets under my skin.
TigersFanJJ
04-25-06, 03:03 AM
It makes me so mad that these people keep pushing further and further. I get SO mad now when I go to a movie pay $8.75 for ticket, outrageous price at the concession stand and THEN m forced to wach actual commercials before the movie. I don't mind the previews because they at least give me a clue about movies I may want to see but freakin commercials.
Since this practice has started I go to far less movies then I used to. Not to mention I wouldn't mind some commercials if so many of them weren't so lame.
I'll tell you what I hate more than the commercials. It really burns me when I take my wife and kid to the cinema, then have to sit through one of those anti-piracy campaign commercials. I'm forced to listen to a multi-millionaire tell me that I shouldn't steal from him. Mother F@*%#r, I just paid more than $50 to see this piece of crap that you call a movie. Who's stealing from who here? :new_cussi
I'll tell you what I hate more than the commercials. It really burns me when I take my wife and kid to the cinema, then have to sit through one of those anti-piracy campaign commercials. I'm forced to listen to a multi-millionaire tell me that I shouldn't steal from him. Mother F@*%#r, I just paid more than $50 to see this piece of crap that you call a movie. Who's stealing from who here? :new_cussi
I agree with you that's why I don't go to the movies or buy them I rent them when they come out cheaper. :listenup: You know those movie stars have to pay for their lifestyle like expensive cars heaters for there pools they really need that extra million dollars:scratch: :money:
billaln
04-25-06, 02:59 PM
[QUOTE=Clint Lamor]It makes me so mad that these people keep pushing further and further. I get SO mad now when I go to a movie pay $8.75 for ticket, outrageous price at the concession stand and THEN m forced to wach actual commercials before the movie.[QUOTE]
I have a little less of a beef paying $8.75 for a movie that cost $100M to make than paying $20 - $30 for a hardcover book.
Let me tell you a little about the "cost" of that book. My father in Law wanted to tell the story of his experience as a topturret gunner on B-17's during WWll. He self published the book (my wife was editor) using $17,000 of his own money. He cannot "afford" commercials or any publicity. The book is available on Amazon, and other sites, but to date his royalty payments have totaled $53. He does sell some books on his own to people he meets for that $25 you hate, but he will never make a profit. He even has his own web site (topturret.com) but as with all things, people can't want what they don't know exists. How many of the things you own did you get because you learned of their existence via commercials?
Let me tell you a little about the "cost" of that book.
I doubt he was talking about "that" book. While I've already posted my support for the cost of books, your self-publishing story is NOT representative of the hardcover publishing industry. In other words, Random House isn't selling books at a loss.
Sorry....farther off topic.
ApK
OK, I'm sorry I said anything. Sorry to paul for hijacking his thread. It wasn't my intention. Let's take any further discussion to another forum/thread.
billaln
04-25-06, 04:58 PM
I doubt he was talking about "that" book. While I've already posted my support for the cost of books, your self-publishing story is NOT representative of the hardcover publishing industry. In other words, Random House isn't selling books at a loss.
Sorry....farther off topic.
ApK
What I replied to specifically was the comments about 1:books and 2:commercials. Random House would not profit as much if at all without commercials. Self publishers seldom profit because they do not have the access to publicity as do the big publishing companies. Publishing costs a lot, lo the $25 for the hardcover. But if you were referring to the topic to 30 second jump, then you are dead on. I was off that.
I just checked my own R-15 and I do not yet have the 30 second jump. Darn!
But if you were referring to the topic to 30 second jump, then you are dead on. I was off that.
I meant me. :D
I meant me. :D
Wait...You meant you, he meant me, I meant the 30 sec topic, and I meant me, too.:)
OK, now we got THAT all cleared up....
Clint Lamor
04-25-06, 08:55 PM
[QUOTE=qwerty][QUOTE=Clint Lamor]It makes me so mad that these people keep pushing further and further. I get SO mad now when I go to a movie pay $8.75 for ticket, outrageous price at the concession stand and THEN m forced to wach actual commercials before the movie.
Let me tell you a little about the "cost" of that book. My father in Law wanted to tell the story of his experience as a topturret gunner on B-17's during WWll. He self published the book (my wife was editor) using $17,000 of his own money. He cannot "afford" commercials or any publicity. The book is available on Amazon, and other sites, but to date his royalty payments have totaled $53. He does sell some books on his own to people he meets for that $25 you hate, but he will never make a profit. He even has his own web site (topturret.com) but as with all things, people can't want what they don't know exists. How many of the things you own did you get because you learned of their existence via commercials?
I didn't make the book comment, as for getting sales without commercials he can alwaya promote his website for little to no cost. I have done it with my personal businesses with quite a lot of success.
Donnie Byrd
04-25-06, 09:38 PM
Wait...You meant you, he meant me, I meant the 30 sec topic, and I meant me, too.:)
OK, now we got THAT all cleared up....
Now I'm confused :confused: :grin: :lol: :eek2:
I was gonna say "Back To Topic" guys, but i forgot what the topic was. :rolleyes:
Wolffpack
04-25-06, 11:44 PM
lol, you guys are funny! Thanks.
Clint Lamor
04-26-06, 12:04 AM
lol, you guys are funny! Thanks.
Funny ha ha or dee dee dee funny? :lol:
Wolffpack
04-26-06, 12:08 AM
Funny ha ha or dee dee dee funny? :lol:
Sorry there Clint. I don't always make my sarcasims known. I'll leave this up to you. But I'm laughing! (OK, not in a bad way laughing).
So who ended up being responsible for this thread going this far OT? Do we need a vote????
Clint Lamor
04-26-06, 12:18 AM
Sorry there Clint. I don't always make my sarcasims known. I'll leave this up to you. But I'm laughing! (OK, not in a bad way laughing).
So who ended up being responsible for this thread going this far OT? Do we need a vote????
That was sarcasm from me also. dee dee dee is from Carlos Mencia :)
I am not sure if it was me but I know I played a part in derailing it. BAD mod BAD BAD BAD. :lol:
Wolffpack
04-26-06, 12:27 AM
Just one of the things I love about this forum!!!
BW, Love CM.
So who ended up being responsible for this thread going this far OT? Do we need a vote????
Wahooo!!! Another poll! :D
Donnie Byrd
04-26-06, 06:16 PM
I am not sure if it was me but I know I played a part in derailing it. BAD mod BAD BAD BAD. :lol:
As for me...............i contributed as well. :p and i'm still confused. :confused:
I don't say much, but when i do....................it still makes no sense. :nono2:
Another "Bad, Bad, Bad" Mod. :D and my apologies for contributing to the "hijacking". :D
I think I feel a group hug comming on!
Donnie Byrd
04-26-06, 06:54 PM
Maybe even, our very own "Morphing Thread" to relieve tension. !Devil_lol :uglyhamme
EDIT: Back To Topic! (30 Sec. Slip)...............I Like!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wolffpack
04-26-06, 08:53 PM
I think I feel a group hug comming on!
Wait... :barf:
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