FCC Mandate of One Dish

[dickydoo]

Is DTV gonna be mandated to the one dish regulation set by the FCC.

I see that DISH Network is complying, but is DTV required as well. I have to have two dishs to pickup my locals here in Wisconsin,

Any info would be appreciated.

Dickydoo

[Earl Bonovich]

Unless the FCC allows DirecTV more orbital slots that are near to one another... I don't see how they could elimiate the 72 SAT... that is too big of a direction shift between the 101 area, and 72.

You would need a VERY large and oddly shapped dish.

I wouldn't expect any changes like that any time soon.

It is "possible" they could shift what is on the 72 to one of the others, but you are still looking at long while before that would happen (if it does)

I don't know 100% if Dish is doing this either, as I look at my window, my neighboor has two Dish Network dishes point in vastly different directions.

[Geronimo]

It is not one DISH total it is all locals on the same dish even if that is not where the other programming is.

[Greg Bimson]

Is DTV gonna be mandated to the one dish regulation set by the FCC.Yes. All satellite broadcasters that offer local channels will be subject to the one-dish rule. I believe the law will be in effect next month.I see that DISH Network is complying, but is DTV required as well. I have to have two dishs to pickup my locals here in Wisconsin,

Any info would be appreciated.The one-dish rule is to make sure that all local channels offered to a customer are from one orbital location. In Wisconsin, with two dishes, you either have La Crosse or Wausau local channels. All La Crosse or Wausau local channels are coming from the 72.5 orbital location, so DirecTV is currently following the one-dish rule correctly. It does not matter if a second dish is required to receive the local channels from 72.5, as long as all local channels are being received via one dish.

It isn't that the subscriber must have one dish to receive all programming. The rule is that all local channels offered to a customer must be available from one dish and DirecTV is following that rule.

[dodge boy]

Unless the FCC allows DirecTV more orbital slots that are near to one another... I don't see how they could elimiate the 72 SAT... that is too big of a direction shift between the 101 area, and 72.

You would need a VERY large and oddly shapped dish.

I wouldn't expect any changes like that any time soon.

It is "possible" they could shift what is on the 72 to one of the others, but you are still looking at long while before that would happen (if it does)

I don't know 100% if Dish is doing this either, as I look at my window, my neighboor has two Dish Network dishes point in vastly different directions.

Curious..... Could that second dish be for that Sky-Angle or Angel One or whatever it is?

[Earl Bonovich]

From what others is posting....

Is the rule basically eliminating
ABC, NBC on one dish
CBS, FOX on another dish

Or are we also talking about "Significantly Viewed" coverage has to be on the same dish.

[Earl Bonovich]

Curious..... Could that second dish be for that Sky-Angle or Angel One or whatever it is?

It is a Latino family, so I am "guessing" it is to get additionaly ethnic based program. (Similar to some of my In-Laws with DirecTV that need the second dish to get addtional Asian programming)

[Greg Bimson]

Is the rule basically eliminating
ABC, NBC on one dish
CBS, FOX on another dish

Or are we also talking about "Significantly Viewed" coverage has to be on the same dish.Let's take the Dish Network example from earlier in the year...

Dish Network had the big four networks, UPN, WB, and a PBS station from the 119 satellite. They also transmitted the lesser non-commercial channels from the 61.5 satellite. This setup required two dishes in order to get the entire slate of locals.

When the practice was started, the FCC already ruled that splitting a market over two slots was not an option. However, Dish Network followed the law to the letter, and was still able to do it.

The problem was that most of the channels that ended up on Dish Network's "wing slots" were the ones that requested must-carry (namely lower-rated non-commercial and latino stations), so the broadcasters stood opposed to Dish Network's practice when the extension of the laws had to occur. Thus, the one-dish rule was born.

With respect to significantly-viewed, those channels are not included in the "one-dish" rule. I've seen a couple of posts that indicate DirecTV is starting to offer some subscribers an extra dish to pick up signficantly-viewed (neighboring market) channels for those that don't have a dish to point to 119 or 72.5.

[directvfreak]

Maybe thay could switch the HD natinals over to MPEG 4 and use the 110 and 119 to replace 72.5 and/or 95. Use 99 and 103 for HD, 101 for core and local, and 110 and 119 fr local and international.

[harsh]

Unless the FCC allows DirecTV more orbital slots that are near to one another... I don't see how they could elimiate the 72 SAT... that is too big of a direction shift between the 101 area, and 72.The key is to effectively use spotbeams. SHVERA doesn't say that you can have only one dish, just that all of your analog locals must be on the same dish (not necessarily the same satellite). Further, SHVERA says that local digitals may even require a separate system entirely (dish and receiver).I don't know 100% if Dish is doing this either, as I look at my window, my neighboor has two Dish Network dishes point in vastly different directions.Given the right combination of programming, it is still possible to have three dishes through Dish Network. Because they have satellites spread from 61.5 to 148, it isn't surprising to see a certain amount of directional disparity.

[harsh]

Maybe thay could switch the HD natinals over to MPEG 4 and use the 110 and 119 to replace 72.5 and/or 95. Use 99 and 103 for HD, 101 for core and local, and 110 and 119 fr local and international.Until such time as MPEG4 technology progresses to the point that it actually delivers 100% better compression than MPEG2, the bandwidth is going to have to come from utilizing spotbeams. The problem is that there aren't enough to go around until D10 and D11 light up.