Nick GAS

[Kichigai]

How come D* has all the Nick channels except Nick GAS?

I know I am a bit old for the channel (30) but I really enjoy watching some the older games that I grew up on.

Thanks:lol:

[agreer]

How come D* has all the Nick channels except Nick GAS?

I know I am a bit old for the channel (30) but I really enjoy watching some the older games that I grew up on.

Thanks:lol:

Likly because there are other channels in the MTV suit that are tied to GAS that D* may not want to carry: if they carry more channels, the bill goes up, and imaging the reaction of many folks when they see their bill raised by$2-3/Mo for what? more MTV channels that no one will watch? My digital cable has fallen in this trap, we get like 8 Nickolodiens (WTF are there THREE nick cartoon channels?!?!?!?!) and like 12 MTV/VH1 channels, hell, they even have a CMT2 (as if the bumkins watching CMT can use digital cable J/K)

Did I mention that one of the reasons I am looking into dumping cable is because it is uber expencive compared to D* Total Choice? The equivilant to Total choice with locals, which is $44 on D* is about $55 on cable, and that is all analog with snow on a few channels.

Now the kicker: to get channels like OLN, NFLnet, Bloomberg and such, you have to get digital cable, which is $7.99 for the converter, and $13 for the "digital teir" so for those keeping score, the equivelant of D* TC Plus w/Locals@$50/Mo costs ~$80

Now: lets talk premeum channels: step up to D* TC platinum @$99/Mo now to the ~$80 for cable add $13 for HBO and Showtime=$26, $12 for starz and Cinemax=$24

80+50=$130

These prices do not include DVR, that box is ~$7/Mo more than the non-DVR digi-box...

Give me only 2 MTVs and 3-4 Nicks if you can give me all the sports in the universe and save me money at the same time.

EDIT: I forgot to point out that the $130 CATVpackage doesnt include the sports channels like YES, MSGN, Sun, NESN, and FSN et-al; Hell, insight doesnt even carry FSN Midwest as a RSN in the Indy DMA so technically, the Pacers would be impossible to watch even with NBA pass or whatever they call it because NBALP would refer you to your local RSN which isnt carried.

Double edit: Ditto for all Colts pre season games...

[scott T]

How come D* has all the Nick channels except Nick GAS?

I know I am a bit old for the channel (30) but I really enjoy watching some the older games that I grew up on.

Thanks:lol:

This was my biggest problem with switching to D*. :confused:

I was able to give my oldest daughter her Radio Disney. :sure:
My youngest daughter all the 3-4 year old channels. :p
But .. my son lost one of his favorite channels ... NICK GAS. :nono:

This didn't stop me from switching from cable to D*, but I wish I could have given the whole family the channels they wanted.

Everyone has NICK GAS: Adelphia, Time Warner, Comcast, Dish Network EXCEPT Directv :nono2:

[dtv757]

yea your right now D* i a lot cheaper than CABLE. you can get a lot more in more rooms for less than cable. but how come they dont offer NICK GAS

like somone said above even E* has NICK GAS.
but than again D* has the lowest ammount of premium channels available.
no HBO Comedy and others D* is the only company that includes the ENCORE channels in the STARZ package.

i guess every provider is different if you want every channel go to FiOS.

[paulman182]

I want every channel!!!

What is FiOS???

[dtv757]

verizon FiOS

http://www22.verizon.com/content/FiosTV/?LOBCode=C&PromoTCode=FTV01&PromoSrcCode=V&POEId=VU1MS

NOTE: FiOS is not available in all areas.

[agreer]

This is why I like the McCain bill about all cable/sat tv being ala-carte: why should I have to pay for the Disney channel, Nick et all, BET, Lifetime, and all the other crap when all I want is all the sports channels, news channels, MTV and comedy centeral and Halmark(reruns of M*A*S*H)? Why should dear old mom have to pay for ~70 channels when all she wants is foodtv, TLC, HGTV and Travel?

Bottom line: I want OLN, NFL net, and so on, but have no use for the kids channels, plenty of folks want only the kids channels and dont care about the sports channels...why cant we have ala-carte TV? this bull**** about being more expencive just seems alogical.

[Adam Richey]

I think the CMT2 you are referring to may be the newest rebranding from VH1 County to CMT Pure Country. I am a big fan of music, and I have been impatiently waiting for the VH1/MTV suite to expand for a LONG time, and I wouldn't mind having Nick GAS for the same reasons that Kichigai said.

[agreer]

I think the CMT2 you are referring to may be the newest rebranding from VH1 County to CMT Pure Country. I am a big fan of music, and I have been impatiently waiting for the VH1/MTV suite to expand for a LONG time, and I wouldn't mind having Nick GAS for the same reasons that Kichigai said. I see your point, to a large extent I agree, on one hand I would love to se D* carry everything, the problem is I shouldnt have to buy everything: why should anyone have to pay for ~100 channels when, between the whole family, we watch maybe 14, it is just that they are all either bundled into one huge pack like Total choice, or in minipacks like digital cable that you have to buy all-or-none -- I dont want Fox College Sports channels, ESPNU, and CSTV, but I have to get all of that and more just to get OLN and NFL on cable:, if you want GAS with digital cable, they requier you to buy like 3 other Nick channels, 8 Discovery Channels, and a ton of filler....hell, Insights SPORTS pack has a christian channel in there! this crap is rediculus! It is like the supermarket not letting you buy a cut of beef unless you get the salad, potato, bread desert and wine to complete the meal; unacceptable.

[Nick]

Well, I don't know about some of you, but I have GAS! :grin:

(The thread topic caught my eye...sorry! :whatdidid)

[cbeckner80]

[QUOTE=agreer;631955]This is why I like the McCain bill about all cable/sat tv being ala-carte: why should I have to pay for the Disney channel, Nick et all, BET, Lifetime, and all the other crap when all I want is all the sports channels, news channels, MTV and comedy centeral and Halmark(reruns of M*A*S*H)? Why should dear old mom have to pay for ~70 channels when all she wants is foodtv, TLC, HGTV and Travel?

And likewise, why should I have to pay for all the sports channels (which are the more expensive channels) when I don't want ESPN, etc., etc.

And the same goes with Showtime and HBO. Many of us have HD, so why can't we buy just those two HD channels and not all the other Showtime and HBO channels?

[JM Anthony]

Well, I don't know about some of you, but I have GAS! :grin:

(The thread topic caught my eye...sorry! :whatdidid)

Would somebody PLEASE get Nick the Beano!

John

[agreer]

And likewise, why should I have to pay for all the sports channels (which are the more expensive channels) when I don't want ESPN, etc., etc.
Back about 9 years ago, Disney was a premium channel on cable: when it became part of "standard classic" the price suddenly went up by $6/Mo: in contrase, when ESPN2 was added, the bill went up by like $0.50

[Steve Mehs]

I forgot to point out that the $130 CATVpackage doesnt include the sports channels like YES, MSGN, Sun, NESN, and FSN et-al;

Why would a Digital Cable system in Indiana want to carry Sun Sports from Florida? I'm not even sure if cable would be allowed to do that legally. Like with satellite all pro sports would be blacked out outside your market, leaving a few local sports shows, college and high school sports and a million chances to catch best Damn Sports Show. I think the three Fox Sports Diginets on Digital Cable are pretty much an equivalent to the 20some RSNs cable offers, less channels, pretty much same sports coverage.

8 Nickelodeons? I count four in existence, Nickelodeon, Nick Too (cables rebranding of Nick West), Nicktoons Network and Nick Games & Sports. There’s Noggin and TV Land, Viacom owned spinoffs but the programming is not your typical Nickelodeon.

Bottom line: I want OLN, NFL net, and so on, but have no use for the kids channels, plenty of folks want only the kids channels and dont care about the sports channels...why cant we have ala-carte TV? this bull**** about being more expencive just seems alogical.

With a la carte it's win or lose no happy medium. I'm willing to bet a lot of the channels that are around today would not be around, if a la carte existed 20 years ago. OLN never would have made it.

Why should dear old mom have to pay for ~70 channels when all she wants is foodtv, TLC, HGTV and Travel?

And likewise, in an a la carte situation why should I have to ridiculously over pay for every channel, when thats what I have and want, just because dear old mom is cheap. With the exception to the Spanish channels, the adult channels and the gay channel, I subscribe to every single channel on Time Warner, the TV programming related charges are about $103 a month for everything, I can’t imagine with a la carte what I’d be paying. I hope we never see a la carte.

[agreer]

With a la carte it's win or lose no happy medium. I'm willing to bet a lot of the channels that are around today would not be around, if a la carte existed 20 years ago. OLN never would have made it.
.20 years ago, most folks were on C-Band, probably as many as had cable, and Cband was ala-carte for whatever wasnt in the clear...it worked well, the only problem with cband was the size of the dish, lack of multiple outlets with seperate tuners on one dish, and the complexity of the hardware.

Imagine a build your own package; call it "your choice" pick 10 channels for $10 and 10 for 7 thereafter: sure the cost/channel goes up, but getting only the 10 you want and not paying for the 120 you dont would be really nice.

Frankly I dont care about what may have happened to OLN, ESPN or whatever, there would still be someone willing to step up for NHL if OLN didnt exist...

I am not saying that the current packages need to go away, I just think that ala carte is needed in addition to them.

The problem is the sort of racket that the programing companies like viacom have: an all or nothing kind of contract with Dish and Directv: " wanna carry this juicy property called GAS, thatll cost ya 4 worthless MTV feeds in your base package" thing...ala carte would solve this, would it not?

[JLucPicard]

The cost to run a satellite company encompasses an awful lot more than just the broadcast channels they carry. There is infrastructure, salaries, equipment, and any countless number of other things beside strictly programming.

I hate to think what it would do to the cost of channels that people want to watch if things went a la carte, and they had to price the channels individually to make sure they still ran a viable business. I'm sure I would be back to pretty much a set of rabbit ears again.

As much as people gripe about prices now, going a la carte would seem to me to be a prohibitively expensive proposition.

People are not happy when a TV show they happen to like gets cancelled because the ratings weren't good. Imagine having whole channels that you like to watch cancelled because not enough people share your same interests. (Some Dish subs don't need to imagine very hard on that one given some of the contract problems that have happened there over the years).

I think the market strikes a pretty decent balance as it is, and that does get tweaked along the way, too. In my opinion (which doesn't count for a hill of beans), a la carte would be a disaster.

[nhguy]

yea your right now D* i a lot cheaper than CABLE. you can get a lot more in more rooms for less than cable. but how come they dont offer NICK GAS

like somone said above even E* has NICK GAS.
but than again D* has the lowest ammount of premium channels available.
no HBO Comedy and others D* is the only company that includes the ENCORE channels in the STARZ package.

i guess every provider is different if you want every channel go to FiOS.

If I could get FIOS tomorrow, I would drop D* in a heartbeat and pay any cancellation fee they would charge, that's after I just dropped several hundred on a private install becasue 4 trips from HSPs still couldn't get it right. I just spent 1/2 hr pn the phone convincing a csr, that D* forgot to ship an access card w/ the H20 I got because I've gotten tired of swapping out H10's w/ the "51" error.

[agreer]

People are not happy when a TV show they happen to like gets cancelled because the ratings weren't good. Imagine having whole channels that you like to watch cancelled because not enough people share your same interests. (Some Dish subs don't need to imagine very hard on that one given some of the contract problems that have happened there over the years).

That happened to TheScreenSavers and then techtv...I know the feeling...oddly enough, there were loads of guys who would have liked to get that channel, but either their analog cable didnt offer it and they didnt have digital availible or the digital was prohibitivly expencive...

RIP TechTV

[jonaswan2]

That happened to TheScreenSavers and then techtv...I know the feeling...oddly enough, there were loads of guys who would have liked to get that channel, but either their analog cable didnt offer it and they didnt have digital availible or the digital was prohibitivly expencive...

RIP TechTV

That was a reason TechTV got dumped, but not the reason. Comcast purchased TechTV and merged it with it's network G4. The executive of G4 wanted to go in an entirely different direction. And TechTV went way before The Screen Savers.

[cbeckner80]

Back about 9 years ago, Disney was a premium channel on cable: when it became part of "standard classic" the price suddenly went up by $6/Mo: in contrase, when ESPN2 was added, the bill went up by like $0.50

I remember when Disney went "standard" but i don't remember my bill with E* going up at the time.

[Earl Bonovich]

In the upcomming year, you should see growth in the channel offerings.

As the MPEG-2 HD content moves off the 101, 110, 119 sats... and goes to the two new sats (in MPEG-4 form)... that will free up space for more offerings...

DirecTV has definently taken the stance they they want to cover more LOCALS first... the the "cable" channels... both with their SD and HD offereings.

As two more SATs launch and the capacity increase, then the door is open fo rmore channels.

[Adam Richey]

I agree with Earl, and I know patience is a virtue...but I don't have any when it comes to getting more HD. LOL. :(

I hope the SD line-up expands a lot. Hopefully, AmericanLifeTV and Military History Channel and Crime & Investigation Network and Soundtrack Channel find their way on. First 2, my dad's been drooling over for awhile since I showed them to him. CIN is my kinda stuff.

[cybok0]

My daughter would love to have nick gas, but myself I'd rather have more hbo and showtime channels that D* doesnt offer.

[Adam Richey]

I'm sure that DirecTV will be addressing their premium movie package situation once those satellites are launched. DirecTV has the saddest premium movie package line-up of ANY providers, and I'm sure at least somebody that works there knows that.

[Mark Holtz]

Guys, here is a prinout of my local cable lineup.