HR20 - On Ebay [Archive]

Earl Bonovich

08-29-06, 03:20 PM

A company has just posted on EBay the hr20 for 339.00 had 30units when I looked.

If they had it... then why not take a picture of it... and post the correct one.

http://cgi.ebay.com/NOW-HERE-ALL-NEW-DIRECTV-HR20-HD-DVR-HDTV-MPEG4-DVR_W0QQitemZ330023156692QQihZ014QQcategoryZ67892Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

This picture in that auction is the H20.

As far as I know... as of today... NO retailers or anyone other then DirecTV has HR20's available for purchase.

Note: I edited the thread title to be a tad more descriptive.

PoitNarf

08-29-06, 03:28 PM

Good amount of positive feedback for the seller, but I'd still be extremely cautious if I were to buy one.

Jeremy W

08-29-06, 04:13 PM

Good amount of positive feedback for the seller, but I'd still be extremely cautious if I were to buy one.
With 99.3% positive on 952 feedbacks, I would not hesitate to purchase from this guy. The only reason I won't buy it from him right now is because I plan on getting mine for free from DirecTV once it hits my area. :)

PoitNarf

08-29-06, 04:18 PM

With 99.3% positive on 952 feedbacks, I would not hesitate to purchase from this guy. The only reason I won't buy it from him right now is because I plan on getting mine for free from DirecTV once it hits my area. :)

You still need to be cautious as sometimes ebay accounts get hacked and taken over by lowlifes. Always check for spelling errors and other odd looking things in the ebay listing. This listing looks good, but I'd still be suspicious since the HR20 isn't available for purchase from anywhere but D* yet.

Earl Bonovich

08-29-06, 04:19 PM

With 99.3% positive on 952 feedbacks, I would not hesitate to purchase from this guy. The only reason I won't buy it from him right now is because I plan on getting mine for free from DirecTV once it hits my area. :)

Okay... even with the high level of positive feed back...
Still be cautious....

As I just don't "like" the fact that they couldn't have at least taken a picture of the box, or swiped one of the real pictures of the HR20 from the net.

Jeremy W

08-29-06, 04:21 PM

You still need to be cautious as sometimes ebay accounts get hacked and taken over by lowlifes. Always check for spelling errors and other odd looking things in the ebay listing. This listing looks good, but I'd still be suspicious since the HR20 isn't available for purchase from anywhere but D* yet.
I know this, but you can check his recent past auctions with positive feedback. They are in the exact same format as this one. Like I said, in this case, I would not hesitate to purchase from this guy.

Jeremy W

08-29-06, 04:23 PM

As I just don't "like" the fact that they couldn't have at least taken a picture of the box, or swiped one of the real pictures of the HR20 from the net.
It's a simple mistake. The HR20 and the H20 look similar enough that it would be easy to mistake them when going quickly. This guy probably uses an automated program to post his eBay listings, and doesn't pay very close attention to each one.

naijai

08-29-06, 04:32 PM

Umm the fact that he says to give his coporate ID which is of no use to any csr , the wrong price for actual Full retail value,wrong type of access card; i would realy be cautious

Earl Bonovich

08-29-06, 04:33 PM

He could be legit... But just with any auction on Ebay... you have to be carefull.
Regardless of feedbacks.

I have had GREAT auctions with new sellers.
and I have had hellish auctions with some with 10k+ possitive feedback

carpetman

08-29-06, 06:13 PM

another supplier just posted on ebay with 100 units for $319.00

laxcoach

08-29-06, 06:35 PM

another supplier just posted on ebay with 100 units for $319.00

I think it's the same seller. He has 3 postings now all at different prices.

EDIT: 2 sellers. 1 has 2 listings.

JBernardK

08-29-06, 06:44 PM

Okay... even with the high level of positive feed back...
Still be cautious....

As I just don't "like" the fact that they couldn't have at least taken a picture of the box, or swiped one of the real pictures of the HR20 from the net.

From the listing, it looks like it will ship from a distribution center. I suspect maybe he does not have one in his possession and justs forwards the order to the distributor.

PoitNarf

08-29-06, 06:47 PM

I think it's the same seller. He has 3 postings now all at different prices.

EDIT: 2 sellers. 1 has 2 listings.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ALL-NEW-HR20-MPEG4-200hr-HD-DVR-DIRECTV-Receiver...ViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.com/ALL-NEW-HR20-MPEG4-200hr-HD-DVR-DIRECTV-Receiver_W0QQitemZ290024198260QQihZ019QQcategoryZ6 7892QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

All the info listed about the receiver seems to be legit, and this guy has 10x the positive feedback as the first one. Still the wrong pic though. If you purchase one from ebay and either really get the HR20 or get burned, please let us know.

Earl Bonovich

08-29-06, 07:27 PM

PoitNarf

08-29-06, 07:44 PM

http://cgi.ebay.com/ALL-NEW-HR20-MPEG4-200hr-HD-DVR-DIRECTV-Receiver...ViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.com/ALL-NEW-HR20-MPEG4-200hr-HD-DVR-DIRECTV-Receiver_W0QQitemZ290024198260QQihZ019QQcategoryZ6 7892QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

All the info listed about the receiver seems to be legit, and this guy has 10x the positive feedback as the first one. Still the wrong pic though. If you purchase one from ebay and either really get the HR20 or get burned, please let us know.

Upon further inspection, there are pics of the HR20 near the bottom of the listing. The main pic is still of the H20 though for some odd reason.

DufferEA

08-29-06, 07:53 PM

If it sounds too good to be true!!!!!!!!!!!

Jeremy W

08-29-06, 08:00 PM

If it sounds too good to be true!!!!!!!!!!!
It doesn't really sound too good to be true though.

Earl Bonovich

08-29-06, 08:08 PM

Upon further inspection, there are pics of the HR20 near the bottom of the listing. The main pic is still of the H20 though for some odd reason.

You are correct... Those most have been stock photos supplied to them... as their is no tamper/warranty sticker on the back of those photos.

Listen.... While I may have been harsh at the top of this thread, as we have seen plenty of fake auctions over the years.

These particular ones may be legit.

I have gotten emails/PM's from way to many sources letting me know that the units are committed to retailers and just as they said... the LA exclusive rollout was not going to be "that" long.

Groundhog45

08-29-06, 09:18 PM

Both of those listings say it has 1 ATSC tuner. I thought it has 2 (disabled).

GH

:D

laxcoach

08-29-06, 09:24 PM

After all...

What does this probably say.....

DirecTV has released (or is about to) release the units to the rest of the country... As once it get's into the vendors hands, the whole LA only thing is out the window

I asked one of the sellers if they are in stock and he said it would be delivered in less than a week. The interesting thing about the writeup is that it says you have a *choice* whether to own or lease the unit.

I also call D* and asked them to get me one since I'm in an HD local area and they are selling on eBay. No luck with that line of questioning even though I was nice and had people kick me up and down the ladder.

I took the plunge. Hopefully it is legit gets to Atlanta soon. D* sure can't give me a hard date.

PoitNarf

08-29-06, 09:29 PM

I asked one of the sellers if they are in stock and he said it would be delivered in less than a week. The interesting thing about the writeup is that it says you have a *choice* whether to own or lease the unit.

I also call D* and asked them to get me one since I'm in an HD local area and they are selling on eBay. No luck with that line of questioning even though I was nice and had people kick me up and down the ladder.

I took the plunge. Hopefully it is legit gets to Atlanta soon. D* sure can't give me a hard date.

Good luck laxcoach. Please let us know how it turns out.

DTV TiVo Dealer

08-29-06, 10:42 PM

I asked one of the sellers if they are in stock and he said it would be delivered in less than a week. The interesting thing about the writeup is that it says you have a *choice* whether to own or lease the unit.

I also call D* and asked them to get me one since I'm in an HD local area and they are selling on eBay. No luck with that line of questioning even though I was nice and had people kick me up and down the ladder.

I took the plunge. Hopefully it is legit gets to Atlanta soon. D* sure can't give me a hard date.

I think you are OK. I believe it is a legit DIRECTV dealer. Very limnited select dealers will receive a limited allocation about one to two weeks before the official national launch date.

-Robert

mluntz

08-30-06, 07:35 AM

A company has just posted on EBay the hr20 for 329.00 had 30units when I looked.

Here's another guy with 94:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ALL-NEW-HR20-MPEG4-200hr-HD-DVR-DIRECTV-Receiver_W0QQitemZ290024198260QQihZ019QQcategoryZ6 7892QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

sp44

08-30-06, 08:09 AM

I think you are OK. I believe it is a legit DIRECTV dealer. Very limnited select dealers will receive a limited allocation about one to two weeks before the official national launch date.

-Robert

Or I can buy from you for $40 cheaper and wait a couple weeks. :)

TekGamer

08-30-06, 08:28 AM

So, if I bought a HR20 off of eBay and activated it, would D* consider it leased or owned?

Earl Bonovich

08-30-06, 08:41 AM

So, if I bought a HR20 off of eBay and activated it, would D* consider it leased or owned?

Most likely Leased....
Unless you can confirm that you paid the over $800~$900 for it.

All HR20's are being treated as leased as far as I know it.

JMAC

08-30-06, 08:59 AM

Looks like if you are an existing customer you do not get a dish when ordered from some of the Ebay stores.

sp44

08-30-06, 09:25 AM

Looks like if you are an existing customer you do not get a dish when ordered from some of the Ebay stores.

Right, you only get a new dish if you are a new customer or get the HR20 from Directv.

captain_video

08-30-06, 09:57 AM

The auction listings have clear instructions about activating the HR20 as either owned or leased. The only clear adavantage I'm seeing about owned vs. leased is that you'll own the DVR but it will only have a 90-day warranty. The leased model will essentially have a lifetime warranty and will also get you a free AT9 dish with installation.

You can get a dish included if you're a 1st time subscriber. You are also eligible for a $100 rebate, according to the listing by minidishesdottv.

FYI - The seller minidishesdottv has been selling satellite gear on ebay for years. I have purchased from them in the past and would recommend them if you're on the fence about buying the HR20. I have no affiliation with the seller whatsoever and have no vested interest in whatever he sells.

I had no intention of getting an mpeg4 DVR but at the price he's selling them I'm strongly considering the purchase just to play around with it. I'll have to put up an AT9 dish but I'm considering the leasing option for the free dish and support it includes.

Herdfan

08-30-06, 10:11 AM

Or I can buy from you for $40 cheaper and wait a couple weeks. :)

Someone at satelliteguys is reporting his credit card has been charged for his HR20.

http://www.satelliteguys.us/showpost.php?p=655588&postcount=103

Earl Bonovich

08-30-06, 10:13 AM

Someone at satelliteguys is reporting his credit card has been charged for his HR20.

http://www.satelliteguys.us/showpost.php?p=655588&postcount=103

That occured for my HR10 when ordering from them... they charged it about 3-4 days prior to shipping (But then I also got a call from their Credit Card Clearing house, to verify that I was happy with the unit and had no intententions of returning it).

Like I said earlier, the two week LA exclussive was only intended to be a very short time period.

vic3435

08-30-06, 10:23 AM

this guy say cost is $319 for unit.Then if you go to his site
he has hr20 plus at9 antenna for $148. something is very fishy here

stuart628

08-30-06, 10:24 AM

That occured for my HR10 when ordering from them... they charged it about 3-4 days prior to shipping (But then I also got a call from their Credit Card Clearing house, to verify that I was happy with the unit and had no intententions of returning it).

Like I said earlier, the two week LA exclussive was only intended to be a very short time period.

Well I bought one off of ebay, and have paid for 2 day shipping, hoping it will be here before the weekend, so I Should be able to let everyone know if these are legit, I have a AT9 dish install set for sep.11th (through directv not part of the ebay purchase), I really hope this all works out, My wife and I love DIrectv, and cant wait to see The mpeg4 HD, I think this time next year our HDlite problems will be gone, and people will be jumping back to Directv, just my two cents there.

tarmack

08-30-06, 01:10 PM

bobnielsen

08-30-06, 03:16 PM

Right, you only get a new dish if you are a new customer or get the HR20 from Directv.

You should be able to get the dish (if needed) from DTV when you call to activate the receiver.

captain_video

08-30-06, 03:35 PM

this guy say cost is $319 for unit.Then if you go to his site
he has hr20 plus at9 antenna for $148. something is very fishy here
I think you saw his listing for the H20 receiver and not the HR20 DVR.

laxcoach

08-30-06, 04:12 PM

I just scheduled the big-dish install with DTV. They gave it to me for free even though I ordered the HR20 through a dealer.

The rep told me that he knows it is sitting in some dealers warehouses right now, but that they are not allowed to sell it yet. He also said that they are supposed to get permission well before the national rollout.

DTV TiVo Dealer

08-30-06, 04:19 PM

Right, you only get a new dish if you are a new customer or get the HR20 from Directv.
Sorry, that is incorrect. If you order from an authorized dealer, DIRECTV will upgrade your dish and switch, if required, move any receivers and add second lines for any dual tuners at no charge.

-Robert

stuart628

08-31-06, 07:07 AM

HEY EARL!!!!!!!!!! go to this auction (this is the one I bought my Hr20 reciever from, who by the way I havent heard from!!!! GRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!) go to the Hr20 picture at the bottom (sorta looks like yours! oh wait thats because it is yours) click on it and it takes you to your Hr20 review! It has to be somone on this board selling them, and I would like to know where my HR20 is DAMN IT! oh well, thought that was funny

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=014&item=330023369464&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&rd=1

But seriously if you are selling those and dont contact me by today I will let you know I will think its fraud and go ahead and take the proper steps toward it being fraud as I have alread sold and shipped out my HDtivo and sit here without anything.

captain_video

08-31-06, 07:11 AM

stuart628

08-31-06, 07:19 AM

Your HR20 probably won't be shipping until next week, which is when most dealers around the country will start shipping them. I believe Robert (in the post above yours), aka DTV Tivo Dealer, is the owner of Value Electronics and has the HR20 for $299 with free shipping.

yes but his listing says in stock, and I will get it within 1-3 days or shipping is free, I paid for two day shipping thinking it could be here before the weekend, so I guess if I dont get contected today (going on second business day as I bought it early yesterday morning) I will be callling fraud trying to get my money back and go with robert, the guy hasnt even contacted me, if he would at least contact me and let me know the situation I would be better, but no contact to me = fraud.

Earl Bonovich

08-31-06, 08:44 AM

HEY EARL!!!!!!!!!! go to this auction (this is the one I bought my Hr20 reciever from, who by the way I havent heard from!!!! GRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!) go to the Hr20 picture at the bottom (sorta looks like yours! oh wait thats because it is yours) click on it and it takes you to your Hr20 review! It has to be somone on this board selling them, and I would like to know where my HR20 is DAMN IT! oh well, thought that was funny

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=014&item=330023369464&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&rd=1

Good catch.... I emailed that seller yesterday that he needs to get a real picture for the HR20.

Guess he did...

Now I just emailed him again, that he needs to add a link to his auction from where he got the picture from

bonscott87

08-31-06, 10:49 AM

yes but his listing says in stock, and I will get it within 1-3 days or shipping is free, I paid for two day shipping thinking it could be here before the weekend, so I guess if I dont get contected today (going on second business day as I bought it early yesterday morning) I will be callling fraud trying to get my money back and go with robert, the guy hasnt even contacted me, if he would at least contact me and let me know the situation I would be better, but no contact to me = fraud.

You must be looking at the wrong thing because the HR20-700 is still a pre-order, not in stock. You can't pay extra for shipping since it's free shipping anyway and since it's pre-order there is nothing to pay extra for. I think you may have bought a different receiver instead.

stuart628

08-31-06, 02:17 PM

You must be looking at the wrong thing because the HR20-700 is still a pre-order, not in stock. You can't pay extra for shipping since it's free shipping anyway and since it's pre-order there is nothing to pay extra for. I think you may have bought a different receiver instead.

Did you go to the Auction? it is a HR20-700, and it is in stock, in fact it is on its way to my house, no mix up....How is it still a preorder? when robert himself said some retailers will be getting them about a week early and selling them?

bonscott87

08-31-06, 07:22 PM

Did you go to the Auction? it is a HR20-700, and it is in stock, in fact it is on its way to my house, no mix up....How is it still a preorder? when robert himself said some retailers will be getting them about a week early and selling them?

What auction? Robert and Value Electronics is a store, not e-Bay.
http://www.valueelectronics.com/
Down just a bit is the HR20
Says" Pre-order sale price $299
Free shipping No sales tax No deposit No charge till we ship
ValueElectronics's DIRECTV HR20-700 advance order offer"

Obviously we have a disconnect and it doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things.

EDIT: Perhaps you are actually talking about the e-Bay auction (nothing to do with Robert) and in that case I think we can all predict you are not getting an HR20 shipped to you in 1-3 days. I would be very suprised. e-Bay is a rip off anyway, I never have trusted it.

lpctv

08-31-06, 07:43 PM

Most likely Leased....
Unless you can confirm that you paid the over $800~$900 for it.

All HR20's are being treated as leased as far as I know it.

Could someone from this forum or D* please put a definitive on this?

I'm sort of curious as to how it works when you get one from a retailer as opposed to getting one direct.
I saw another post where D* had given the person a rebate and discounted programming even though the unit was purchased from VE.
I guess that since all 4 of mine are owned (including a 10-250), I'm curious of how it works with the lease aspect or, if there is actually an option to own instead of lease, how it affects what you get in the way of support or whatever.

stuart628

08-31-06, 07:44 PM

What auction? Robert and Value Electronics is a store, not e-Bay.
http://www.valueelectronics.com/
Down just a bit is the HR20
Says" Pre-order sale price $299
Free shipping No sales tax No deposit No charge till we ship
ValueElectronics's DIRECTV HR20-700 advance order offer"

Obviously we have a disconnect and it doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things.

EDIT: Perhaps you are actually talking about the e-Bay auction (nothing to do with Robert) and in that case I think we can all predict you are not getting an HR20 shipped to you in 1-3 days. I would be very suprised. e-Bay is a rip off anyway, I never have trusted it.

well I owe you an apology!! My refund just came through paypal, the guy said he cant send them out till mid september! DANG ITTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!! oh well.

By the way when is robert sending his out?

PoitNarf

08-31-06, 07:51 PM

well I owe you an apology!! My refund just came through paypal, the guy said he cant send them out till mid september! DANG ITTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!! oh well.

By the way when is robert sending his out?

Tuesday from what I've heard.

captain_video

08-31-06, 07:51 PM

Either tomorrow or first thing next week from what I've read.

DTV TiVo Dealer

08-31-06, 08:33 PM

Sorry guys, at 4:29 PM ESt today DIRECTV sent a memo to its distributors stopping all shipments. The new national release date is now 9/13/06.

Today our FL fullfillment warehouse had already packed 30 of our orders and they were pulled back at the last moment before UPS came for their daily p/u, the balance of our large allocation has already been scheduled for delivery tomorrow morning at 10:30 AM. As of this moment they can not be shipped either.

I'm not sure if we will be able to ship sooner, but by Tuesday, 9/5/06, all 12 of our fullfillment branches will be stocked and ready to ship.

Any and all charges that were made were fully refunded immediately at 4:30 PM EST today. So if you see a charge the credit will also be posted hopefully on the next line item of your credit card statement, but certainly on the same statement.

Sorry about this false alarm, everything was going ahead of schedule till the last moment of the UPS pick-up.

If we are not permitted to ship earlier than 9/13 at least our nationwide 12 warehouse simultaneous distribution will ensure the fastest possible in-hand date to all of our customers.

I assume one of the reasons for this small delay is to give engineering time to enable more features for us to download upon activation.

-Robert

PoitNarf

08-31-06, 08:41 PM

Doh! :nono2:

KCWolfPck

08-31-06, 08:55 PM

Blah, blah, blah. Empty promises, empty promises. Blah, blah, blah.
-Robert

And for those of you that are new customers of Value Electronics......welcome to the show. This is just par for the course. Nobody can seriously be surprised by this.

Earl Bonovich

08-31-06, 08:59 PM

Take it "outside"

DTV TiVo Dealer

08-31-06, 09:01 PM

And for those of you that are new customers of Value Electronics......welcome to the show. This is just par for the course. Nobody can seriously be surprised by this.

How did you make the phony quote up using my user name??? Very crafty.

-Robert

PoitNarf

08-31-06, 09:02 PM

And for those of you that are new customers of Value Electronics......welcome to the show. This is just par for the course. Nobody can seriously be surprised by this.

Geez, you really don't like Robert do ya?

As a counterpoint, Robert has answered my PMs very quickly and has been nothing but professional. D* is holding the shipments back now, not VE.

stuart628

08-31-06, 09:33 PM

And for those of you that are new customers of Value Electronics......welcome to the show. This is just par for the course. Nobody can seriously be surprised by this.

You may have had a bad experience but that is no reason to slander someone, especially when all I have ever heard is good things about Robert and ValueE, and have had nothing but good experiences (on my orders). So this is Totally off course, and everyone can be suprised by this as its not his fault, why not read his whole post before you open yor big mouth. Also you better be careful misposting someone like that, could open you up to a lawsuit if you tick someone off enough.

pappys

08-31-06, 10:02 PM

And for those of you that are new customers of Value Electronics......welcome to the show. This is just par for the course. Nobody can seriously be surprised by this.

Please stop bashing. this forum is meant to help each other with problems and come to resolution. We don't need this on this website.