RV Waiver Question

[DennyC]

I presently receive the distant networks (both east and west coasts), plus the Phoenix locals, using an address in Salome, AZ, that qualified for all three at the time we started using it. Since that address presently shows as qualifying for only the Phoenix locals, I assume that I'm still receiving the distants only because of a grandfather provision.

We do own an RV but have never bothered getting an RV waiver simply because it wasn't necessary-- we were using the present address and receiving the distants since long before RV waivers were created, and it's continued to work, so I haven't rocked the boat. With the imminent "requalifying" for distant networks, I fully expect that my grandfathered status will become meaningless and my distants will be turned off. If that happens (or, preferably, before that happens) I'd like to properly qualify for an RV waiver. Note, I'm not proposing "moving" or anything else even slightly out of line here-- I legitimately qualify for an RV waiver and have for years; I just had no need to get one before now.

So, my question is this: if I send in the paperwork for the RV waiver, will I then qualify for ONLY the distants-- or can I continue to get the Phoenix locals, too? While the dish on the RV is permanently installed (as required to qualify for the RV waiver), I do move receivers between the RV and the house, so I'd like to continue to be able to receive the Phoenix locals when I'm at home and within the spotbeam. Is that the way things work, or does Dish expect me to have dedicated receivers at both locations, with the distants on the receivers in the RV, and the locals on the ones at home?

Thanks for any info,

Denny

[joblo]

When did you “start using” that address?

If you're receiving Phoenix locals AND east/west distants, you should NOT be a "grandfathered" sub in the 119(e) sense, and thus you should not lose distants due to the requalification process, unless you were wrongly qualified in the first place.

You are grandfathered, however, in the sense that new subs cannot get distants anywhere LIL is available, so you don’t want to give up that address or your current distants.

RV eligibility for locals, meanwhile, is sort of a gray area. I think E* will let you have them, but D* won't. If I were you I would continue not rocking the boat for a while longer and see what happens. RV eligibility isn't going away, so no sense driving off that bridge until you have to.

[derwin0]

RV eligibility for locals, meanwhile, is sort of a gray area. I think E* will let you have them, but D* won't. If I were you I would continue not rocking the boat for a while longer and see what happens. RV eligibility isn't going away, so no sense driving off that bridge until you have to.
D* will let you have them, but will only put the distant locals onto one reciever on the account (the one you tell them that you use in the RV).

[DennyC]

When did you “start using” that address?



1996.

We were fulltime in the RV, there was no such thing as an "RV waiver", and (like most RVer's) we had four different addresses-- one for each time zone. In the early days of DISH, RVer's would routinely change addresses whenever we went into a new time zone, so the clock and times in the guide would be right. None of the present labyrinth of laws regarding what you could receive existed (or if they did, they weren't enforced).

In thinking more about this, I realize that I erred in saying that the address, "qualified for all three at the time we started using it"-- we started using the address before DISH started carrying locals. When the Phoenix locals became available, the address we use initially didn't qualify for them, so we just kept getting the distants. Eventually, though, the address showed as qualifying for both distants and Phoenix locals-- so we added the Phoenix locals, and have received both ever since. Although we could have qualified for an RV waiver at any time after they were invented, there was never a need to get one, since we were getting the feeds we wanted by using the address we do.

I'd like to be proactive and avoid the possibility that they cut off my distants, then I have to wait six or eight weeks for the RV waiver to process to get them back. OTOH, I don't want to apply for the RV waiver now, if it triggers an unnecessary loss of the Phoenix locals. I'd like to keep both, if possible-- but if I have to choose, I'll get the RV waiver, keep the distants, and lose the locals. So far, nobody's been able to tell me for sure it that would be the case-- or if the fact that we live in an area that qualifies for Phoenix locals, but also qualify for an RV waiver, would mean we'd get both.

I guess the wise thing to do at this point is just wait and see how things shake out.....

[Shellback X 23]

When I got my RV Waiver I was getting NYC plus my LIL. Later I changed my travel pattern to be out of the spot beam of the LIL's I was subscribed to so I droped them and added the DNS offered in my new time zone and changed address to that time zone. When I go south for the winter I will not change anything as a one timezone shift is no big deal.

At my new service address the LIL's are not on a Dish 500 so I don't get them, no big deal as I can see the trasnmitting towers!

[DennyC]

When I got my RV Waiver I was getting NYC plus my LIL.

Well, that's encouraging anyway.

I don't mind the times being screwed up anymore as we travel between time zones-- we watch everything off the DVR these days, so it doesn't really matter when things are on. But in the old days, when you had to watch everything live or screw around with a VCR, it was nice to just call the 800 number when we were moved into a different time zone for any length of time-- and, minutes later, all was right with guide!

[TheRatPatrol]

If you have an RV waiver and get the distants (380-389) and get the HD package will you automatically get the HD distants (80-89)?

Thanks.